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The Debate: Is America’s future capitalist or socialist?
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Great white sharks likely pushed the massive megalodon to extinction
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Political Correctness run amok
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the guy who used to own starbucks
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Finance, the economy & Economics
It used to be that them with the bucks at least made an effort to prove they were responsible and recognized that their wealth brought responsibilities with it. During the great depression they actually had a book written about such a person to prov
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Re: Takeover by jgw @ Today at 06:08 PM

Interesting. Roosevelt was, I think, a Democrat and NOT a Socialist. He was, however, socially responsible and understood that meant some things needed to be socialized which is, to my mind, different from "Socialist". I can, however, re
Politics In General
Jump to new posts Re: The Green New Deal, explained by jgw @ Today at 06:02 PM

Of course "people would make the right decisions" isn't right. My point is that conservatives do believe its right and true. Most conservatives I know (nary a Trumpite in that group) believe it and its always amazed me. They have a LOT o
Politics In General
Jump to new posts Re: The Green New Deal, explained by NW Ponderer @ Today at 03:15 PM

Republicans like bogeymen, Democrats like facts. In support of both, Here's what the Green New Deal actually says (CNN).
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Re: Takeover by pondering_it_all @ Today at 06:26 AM

And even "Real Socialism" in the sense of central planning and guaranteed employment. But he really did not have a choice. It was either that or people would have been dying en masse in food riots. I think sometimes you have to take the
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by NW Ponderer @ Today at 01:42 AM

DONALD TRUMP ADMITS, ‘I DIDN'T NEED TO Do This; SAYS HE’D JUST ‘RATHER DO IT MUCH FASTER’ (Newsweek). This guy really knows how to undercut every fake position he takes.
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by rporter314 @ Today at 01:37 AM

Mr Trump is only the elected president. Hannity/Limbaugh/Coulter are the de facto troika presidents representing Russian interests and the base.
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by Jeffery J. Haas @ Yesterday at 11:00 PM

Apparently we have to wait till Trump gets his orders because from what I can gather, the new President is actually Sean Hannity.
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Re: Takeover by Jeffery J. Haas @ Yesterday at 10:59 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_allRoosevelt was actually not a socialist, he was from old money, but he did what was necessary to pull us out of the depression. We had a system that had an excess of capitalism before that, which would not work a
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Re: Takeover by pondering_it_all @ Yesterday at 10:55 PM

Roosevelt was actually not a socialist, he was from old money, but he did what was necessary to pull us out of the depression. We had a system that had an excess of capitalism before that, which would not work at getting us out of the depression.
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by pondering_it_all @ Yesterday at 09:56 PM

I'm sure it will be, and time and again courts have looked at Trump's own statements and tweets to determine his state of mind. He has a very bad record any time he goes to court, but I suppose this could actually be part of his strategy: "I t
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by Jeffery J. Haas @ Yesterday at 07:18 PM

And, as it turns out, he admits that he "didn't need to do this" (that "nashul 'merginsey stuff") , he just wanted to get it done quicker. Not only has Trump just "kneecapped his own case for a national emergency", bu
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Re: Takeover by Jeffery J. Haas @ Yesterday at 06:13 PM

No more term limits? Oh goody.
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Re: Takeover by Greger @ Yesterday at 06:11 PM

As near as I can tell the president is breaking no laws. At least in the context of declaring a national emergency. His use of it as an end run around congress to embezzle money for a pet project is unprecedented though. Not illegal...just unprecede
The RoundTable
Jump to new posts Re: RoundTable for February 2019 by Jeffery J. Haas @ Yesterday at 06:11 PM

Awww, look at Junior. He's trying out Daddy's pulpit, how adorable.
Finance, the economy & Economics
Quote:Socialism implemented by a government is at its root an artificial redistribution of wealth in an attempt to correct for the advancement of the cancerous disease of concentrated wealth.And more often than not when socialism is implemented by go
Non-Conventional Theories
Jump to new posts Takeover by jgw @ Yesterday at 05:57 PM

Jackass declares a national emergency. Law suits are entered to stop it. Eventually it goes to the courts. The it gets to the supremes, which has been pre-packed by Jackass. The supremes, therefore, have no problem with the president not being c
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by rporter314 @ Yesterday at 05:39 PM

Can anyone imagine a Democrat president making a call for a national emergency on the grounds of national security and associated number of deaths? How could the courts possibly reject it? O did I mention gun control?
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by jgw @ Yesterday at 05:39 PM

On the bright side is that everybody in congress will get a chance to weigh in on record. In other words they must identify themselves as being for the constitution or against. Hopefully, next election, those voting, basically against the constitut
Foreign Policy & News
Jump to new posts Re: Middle East Conference by jgw @ Yesterday at 05:35 PM

Initially that was a fact. Now, however, we seem to have become a major exporter of oil ourselves. Given the amount of treasure we have spent, trying to 'help' that area, I suspect that, at least eventually, somebody is going to figure out that its
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by Greger @ Yesterday at 04:15 PM

Quote:Congress can undo a state of emergency declaration with either a joint resolution and the President's signature, or with a veto-proof majority vote.[1] Looks like we're gettin' a wall.
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by logtroll @ Yesterday at 01:48 PM

The strange origin of The Wall as a political issue (hint - it did not begin as a national emergency). 'The Wall' as a mnemonic device for a stupid man Quote:Donald Trump’s plan to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border did not come from s
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Trump's New Toy - NATIONAL EMERGENCY by NW Ponderer @ Yesterday at 07:55 AM

Quote:The National Emergencies Act (NEA) (Pub.L. 94–412, 90 Stat. 1255, enacted September 14, 1976, codified at 50 U.S.C. § 1601–1651) is a United States federal law passed to stop open-ended states of national emergency and formalize the power of Co
Foreign Policy & News
Jump to new posts Re: Middle East Conference by pondering_it_all @ Yesterday at 05:26 AM

I think our official love affair with Saudi Arabia might just have something to do with oil.
The Trump Administration
Jump to new posts Re: Justice is coming by pondering_it_all @ Yesterday at 04:23 AM

I wonder who is going to get indicted tomorrow?
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