The chosen one?

Posted by: Greger

The chosen one? - 10/10/18 04:56 PM

The chosen one? The new film that claims Trump's election was an act of God
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More than 1,000 US cinemas are screening The Trump Prophecy – which posits that God chose the philandering billionaire to restore America’s moral values


I recall a time when Republicans accused Democrats of viewing Obama as "The Chosen One" or a savior of some sort. We hoped he would lead us out of the mess George W. Bush had gotten us into(and he did) but there were never any religious overtones.

Republicans have gone totally off the deep end in their worship of Trump.

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The belief that Trump’s election was God’s divine will is shared by others. Franklin Graham, the prominent conservative evangelical, said last year that Trump’s victory was the result of divine intervention. “I could sense going across the country that God was going to do something this year. And I believe that at this election, God showed up,”


Yeah, God hates Mexicans, women, and queers and this is his way of showing it. He loves soaring debts and deficits as long as the rich get richer and the poor die in the streets.
Posted by: rporter314

Re: The chosen one? - 10/10/18 05:01 PM

didn't already proclaim himself as the Savior of America?

of course a movie would follow.

if anyone thinks America is great, I have a bridge I don;t even own but will sell to you cheap ... drop a dime .... ring ring ring
Posted by: Greger

Re: The chosen one? - 10/10/18 05:25 PM

I thought the concept of God Kings had gone out of fashion with the Pharaohs. They've practically proclaimed him the Second Coming Of Jesus Christ.

Let the little children who come to me suffer.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: The chosen one? - 10/11/18 04:18 AM

The strangest thing is, apparently Trump never actually makes an appearance in the movie.
This film is Dominionist authoritarian theocracy claptrap taken to the next level.
Posted by: Greger

Re: The chosen one? - 10/11/18 04:25 PM

It's a product of Liberty University. Jesus never actually makes an appearance either but they've been talking about his return for 2000 years.
Trump's ascendancy won't last nearly as long.

There have been many Christian prophecies over the centuries, all of them have been wrong. This one comes from the fevered dreams of an old man who heard voices in his head. Possibly a mini stroke, possibly a cry for attention, probably totally made up.
But Christians and Republicans share a certain gullibility.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: The chosen one? - 10/14/18 12:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
The chosen one? The new film that claims Trump's election was an act of God

Republicans always claim that that are. rolleyes
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: The chosen one? - 10/15/18 03:11 PM

I happen to agree that Trump's election was probably an act of God - like Sodom and Gomorrah or the great flood. It's God's punishment for iniquity and complacency. Evangelicals are trying to bring on the apocalypse. What's the excuse for the rest of us?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: The chosen one? - 10/15/18 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I happen to agree that Trump's election was probably an act of God - like Sodom and Gomorrah or the great flood. It's God's punishment for iniquity and complacency. Evangelicals are trying to bring on the apocalypse. What's the excuse for the rest of us?


How about God's just sick of liberals being uninvolved, complacent, petty, quarrelsome and incapable of forming a solid consensus worthy of decisive action?
Posted by: jgw

Re: The chosen one? - 10/15/18 07:47 PM

I really love this one. It takes religion into a whole new world of illusion, delusion and confusion and its all GOD's fault/work!

It seems that once folks decide to ignore fact and reality in favor of wishful thinking and imagination ANYTHING is possible, maybe even probable! (at least in their damaged minds)
Posted by: Greger

Re: The chosen one? - 10/15/18 11:09 PM

Funny thing about gods. They remain completely anonymous, never showing their faces, but manipulating every little detail in the universe.

It's almost as if they didn't exist at all.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: The chosen one? - 10/19/18 05:04 AM

Only Christians will worship the anti-Christ. The rest of us will just think he's an a-hole. I think their near-worship of Trump (The Prince of Lies) pretty solidly proves this.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: The chosen one? - 10/22/18 03:16 PM

Being Christian is pretty much a requirement for believing in "the anti-Christ" (it's in the name), or "antichrists" depending on which part of the bible you're referring to. But, being "the chosen one" or chosen people just takes a certain mindset. "Believers" and "skeptics" just view the world differently. That's why the right wing loved to describe support for Obama that way - they just can't comprehend rational thought.

TIME magazine recently ran a cover story about How Trumpism Will Outlast Trump. In my view, the premise is wrong: "Trumpism" isn't some new and different thing - it is the same lies that Republicans have been spouting for a century or more, just repackaged. Yes, some of his positions are non-orthodox, but he's still given them all the fruits of their wet dreams. The article points out, however, that Democrats also adhere to many of the broken premises in propounding their policies. It's a matter of misunderstanding. What is most dangerous is what the article asserts: these "new conservatives" have learned to repackage their ideas for the reshaped electorate by downplaying the bigotry. But, it still requires the ardent support of "true believers". "Aye, there's the rub..."
Posted by: rporter314

Re: The chosen one? - 10/23/18 07:49 PM

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What is most dangerous is what the article asserts: these "new conservatives" have learned to repackage their ideas for the reshaped electorate by downplaying the bigotry.

I have to disagree.

Bigotry has been a large part of the modern conservative movement. The transition is clear when one considers how the parties changed after 1964 especially in the South. During the transition Republicans downplayed the bigotry by claiming it was not a part of their party. The reality is and was that it was there and the leaders either lived in denial, oblivious ignorance, or intentional promoted the PC responses.

With Trumpism all the bigotry has been exposed and like Mr Trump's blatantly obvious corruption, that bigotry is now in the light of day. Republicans have acquiesced to the corruption, the ignorance of Mr Trump, his narcissistic lies, and his bigotry. That bigotry is now an open festering wound on the American landscape. We can no longer be held as a beacon of anything but 3rd rate nationalism, ready to sell out to the next high bidder.

We have lost our footing, but do not despair. What I know is in the long term progressive ideals will win the hearts and minds of people. These sunless days will become a reminder of a time when the heart of darkness reared its ugly head in a death throe trying to drag the rest of humanity down in the hole it resides.

Be brave and hold fast
Posted by: Greger

Re: The chosen one? - 10/23/18 08:24 PM

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We have lost our footing, but do not despair. What I know is in the long term progressive ideals will win the hearts and minds of people. These sunless days will become a reminder of a time when the heart of darkness reared its ugly head in a death throe trying to drag the rest of humanity down in the hole it resides.

Be brave and hold fast


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Thanks for that reminder Mr. Porter.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: The chosen one? - 10/23/18 11:21 PM

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Being Christian is pretty much a requirement for believing in "the anti-Christ"


You're wrong there in a certain way. I'm not Christian (in that I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus) but I do believe in the anti-Christ. That is I believe that some people who DO believe in the divinity of Jesus will follow one or more very bad people because they think he is Christ returned, and it will not turn out well in the end. You have to be irrational to believe a lot of their dogma to begin with, so believing some more is no great leap. And blind faith can lead to some very bad things.

I don't think Trump really qualifies, but we are seeing the same sort of phenomenon right now. A lot of people of faith have been taken in, despite all of his many moral defects.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: The chosen one? - 10/27/18 12:40 AM

I on the other hand DO think Trump very much qualifies.
He's TEXTBOOK.