Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media

Posted by: chunkstyle

Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/10/19 04:36 PM

Matt Taibbi has done some good reporting over the last decade and looks to be setting his sights on the media now.
No telling how much traction he will get with this YouTube effort and it is, according to him, a work in progress. I welcome it. News reporting is largely sham entertainment programming masquerading as some kind of civic function.

I wish Taibbi success and hope he goes after the phony red baiting RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA infotainment oracles that have been the wellspring of so much dumb conversation/debate.

All in effort to smother progressive politics in the corporate parties to be sure.

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/10/19 05:04 PM

Morning Joe did a similar homage, completely ignoring everyone but TrumpBiden, until it was time to lambast Warren and Sanders.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/10/19 05:56 PM

And here's The Hill, just in case everyone thought it's only cable news doing this nonsense.

Poll: Biden leads Democratic field, Warren drops to third place

Biden 1st, Warren 3rd....oop, who's in second place.
Oh no, we can't possibly want Bernie almost as much as Biden!!



Yeah chunk, we get it. And yeah, it's very similar to what the news media and the DNC tried to do to Bernie the last time.
We have been all over that.
I still think part of this is the rift between Bernie and the DNC.
You and I have a deep seated disagreement as to how that can be or could have been handled, and I am not eager to rehash all of that, but we are back here again now, same place we were at last time.

As you've claimed in the past, he's being shut out as much as possible. The DNC is trying to protect their establishment and the media is frightened at the prospect of their large corporate advertisers wigging out.

They're all acting like nine year olds who think that a President decides everything.
Never mind that we're engaged in the fight of the century to prove that unitary executives, particularly deeply compromised and corrupt ones, are a danger to our national security.
Bernie Sanders would have to work with people on both sides of the aisle like any POTUS should, and many on the Dem side aren't fans of many items in his agenda.

I must retract what I said a couple of months ago about his age.
The guy must have a Terminator power source in his chest.
He doesn't seem the least bit affected by any age related health concerns.

I did notice something however...and you may have noticed it too.
He's not using the dreaded word so much anymore.
He's just pushing a steady platform that is similar to his eternal boilerplate.

Oh well, it's still almost a year out.
I can hope and wish for Biden to flame out or trip over his own baggage so badly that he's no longer able to be propped up even by extraordinary means.

Just know, I still like Bernie, and if he is the nominee, I will enthusiastically vote for him.

Is it possible that the Democratic Party will make the same fatal mistake twice in a row?
Don't answer that, I think I can already guess your response.
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Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/10/19 06:20 PM

I didnít get very far with your post, Jeff, because itís reading like you missed the point.
Taibbi is launching a YouTube channel in order to be a media critic.
Iím welcoming it.

Itís not about Sanders and the Democratic Party in 2016.

Itís about media being little more than propaganda organs manipulating public opinion, elevating nonsense and creating false narratives.

Narratives that dominate here at the rant, by the way.

Kind of a Ďmanufacturing consent/discontentí expose.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/10/19 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
I didnít get very far with your post, Jeff, because itís reading like you missed the point.
Taibbi is launching a YouTube channel in order to be a media critic.
Iím welcoming it.

Itís not about Sanders and the Democratic Party in 2016.

Itís about media being little more than propaganda organs manipulating public opinion, elevating nonsense and creating false narratives.

Narratives that dominate here at the rant, by the way.

Kind of a Ďmanufacturing consent/discontentí expose.



Well, I guess I'm sorry that the only point worth discussing was Taibbi's YouTube channel.
I like Matt Taibbi and have ever since his days in Moscow, even more after he wrote "The Great American Bubble Machine" in RS.

But Taibbi seems to gloss over some crucial details sometimes.
No, that doesn't trigger me to launch some imaginary neo-con friendly rage-fest against him, I just think he's feeling like he's obligated to present both sides, but like I said, he misses a few things.

For instance:

Quote:
For one, long before the DNC hack, we meddled in their elections. This was especially annoying to Russians because we were ostensibly teaching them the virtues of democracy at the time.


Right around that time, we (Sergey Levin, Viktor Netchaev and myself) happened to be in Moscow, visiting Ostankino Studios. They were desperate for pro videocassette tape stock, but corrupt "gatekeepers" wanted a gratuity to "dispense" the tape stock, about as much as the cost of each cassette, so double the price.
I hate to say it, but that is a form of capitalism, even though it was being practiced by Soviets. I don't remember us teaching that lesson to them, unless they were getting their lessons from old American gangster movies.

Quote:
For one thing, the privatization effort under Yeltsin, much of which was coordinated by Americans, helped lead to a little-understood devilís bargain that sealed Yeltsinís electoral victory.


Enter Jeffrey Sachs, a possibly well meaning but historically blind and deaf advocate of exactly what happened, raw anarcho-gangsterism, a kind of disaster capitalism that sprouts most quickly in the wake of a systemic collapse, which in economic terms, is the equal of a natural disaster like a tsunami or a massive earthquake.
The factory buildings are left standing along with the homes, but they're empty because there's no money to buy anything and no money for rent.

MONTHLY REVIEW: The Necessity of Gangster Capitalism

The shock of this disaster capitalism left a lot of fertile ground in both the former USSR and its nascent breakaway satellite, Ukraine, fertile ground which became the playground for Paul Manafort.

It also simultaneously left the door wide open for Donald Trump, who made his first inroads into Putin's vast stores of criminal wealth back around 1987 after a meeting with Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinina.

Trump fit all the necessary recruitment criteria.
Quote:
ďAre pride, arrogance, egoism, ambition or vanity among subjectís natural characteristics?Ē


By the late-1990's Trump was already being shut out of Western banks and was forced to seek loans elsewhere. Game, set, match...Russian oligarchs to the rescue, under the watchful eye of Putin.
They had their man, and liberals had nothing to do with it.

I'm not saying that Taibbi is suggesting otherwise.
I'm saying that he's perhaps accidentally committing errors of omission.

I'd really love to ask Taibbi if he even believes that Putin's goal is to castrate Western democracies.
And I'd love to know if he believes that liberals are the main culprits.

Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/11/19 04:04 AM

Arenít you conflating?

The thrust is to show media manipulation and bias with ĎBehind The Newsí. The tricks of the trade.


Not that I have a problem discussing the Russian dirt under Trumps nails being made into a mountain.

I respect Taibbiís time on campaign trails and in depth knowledge of how the news media works. Iím looking forward to more.

Iím not sure how price gouging video cassette tapes relates to either disaster capitalism or election meddling.
Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/11/19 04:59 AM

What is anarcho-gangsterism?

Yeah,I searched it already. Iím not finding anything about it.

Podesta worked for Manafort in the Ukraine by the way.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/25/19 04:35 PM

Read the whole thing - it's about anti-anti-Trumpism
Quote:
Some anti-anti-Trump leftists see impeachment not merely as a distraction from the Sanders revolution but a deliberate effort to marginalize it. Krystal Ball and Aaron Mate recently speculated that Democratic leaders just might be setting up an impeachment trial in order to keep Sanders and Elizabeth Warren locked up in Washington and off the campaign trail. While such a possibility is obviously insane, if you consider the struggle between left-wing populists and evil neoliberals to be the central dynamic in American politics, it might seem at least plausible.
Posted by: Greger

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/25/19 07:26 PM

I read the whole thing. I dunno if I buy into it. Democrats aren't smart enough to plan that far ahead. Besides, if the trial occurs during prime campaigning season(unlikely because Republicans need to campaign too) the candidates are going to be right where all the cameras are and all the reporters are and all the air time.

Maybe better than half filled high school gyms in Podunk and Bumfeck.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/25/19 09:16 PM

I posted it because it appears to describe where Chunks is coming from.
Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/26/19 12:12 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
I posted it because it appears to describe where Chunks is coming from.


Chait is to liberals what Brooks is to conservatives. A courtier who will hopefully wake up one day and realize his influence and following was always small.

He still is competent at doing what he does, however, which is servicing the liberal class and telling them what they want to hear.

Smearing critics and making false accusations he takes whatís common knowledge and observation like, say, the increasing criticism of the left of the Democratic Party power structures and their impediments to economic and social justice, and creates false conclusions that reinforces the legitimacy of those power structures.

His takeaways are always Ďwe did nothing wrongí followed by a Ďitís their fault we lostí.
He attempts to neutralize critics of his meal ticket by creating phony frameworks. The other side of the same coin as Brooks or Douthat, etc..

When I see Chait talk about corruption in the DNC or critique the incompetence of the historically expensive 2016 democratic presidential campaign as he does smearing Steins recount finances Iíll believe Chait is arguing in good faith.



Gawd, Ďanti anti Trumpí impeachment! Only the liberal class would elevate a smear as clumsy as that!

My only question is whatís so mysterious about where Iím coming from, Logtroll, that you need a courtiers framing to have it explained to you?

Should I go looking at BP press releases to understand your biochar opinions?



Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: Long overdue Satirizing the corporate news media - 12/26/19 03:14 PM

Sadly, another victim of a hedge fund bustout, the Splinter online lefty news site is nolonger. A lot of young turks came out of that camp doing what Yutes do; being irreverent and, more importantly, speaking truth to power. Why atists, intellectuals unions and students always get the hammer first.

I've referenced/linked out to Alex Pareene's The Long, Lucrative Right-wing Grift Is Blowing Up in the World's Face awhile back and consider it one his best pieces and distilled so much of the right wing into a coherent bio.

I especially appreciate his analysis of Chait and others of his ilk. Basically fancy liberal lads who want to tell you how the real world works:

'Here is a very instructive passage from a column he wrote in 2006. The rest of this column is dedicated to listing the many ways in which Joe Lieberman, then engaged in a bitter primary fight, was a terrible Democrat. But:

In the end, though, I canít quite root for Lieberman to lose his primary. Whatís holding me back is that the anti-Lieberman campaign has come to stand for much more than Liebermanís sins. Itís a test of strength for the new breed of left-wing activists who are flexing their muscles within the party. These are exactly the sorts of fanatics who tore the party apart in the late 1960s and early 1970s. They think in simple slogans and refuse to tolerate any ideological dissent. Moreover, since their anti-Lieberman jihad is seen as stemming from his pro-war stance, the practical effect of toppling Lieberman would be to intimidate other hawkish Democrats and encourage more primary challengers against them.

This is Chaitism distilled: They may be rightóabout Joe Lieberman, about the Iraq War, about the racism of the conservative movementóbut they are right for the wrong reasons, and we cannot let them gain a foothold.

You Are Jonathan Chait's Enemy

I've been happy to see Libby Watson, Hamilton Nolan, Rafi Schwartz, Paul Blest and the other young voices coming out of that online zine find new writing homes.