Roundtable for October 2018

Posted by: Greger

Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/01/18 02:42 AM



I was shopping so I picked up some Halloween candy


Saw this while I was there too


So fall is here. Doesn't mean much in Florida.
But on the bright side...
We have year round golfing.



Have a good month everybody!
And a happy and blessed Samhain.
So Mote It Be.


Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/01/18 11:45 AM

ROTFMOL ThumbsUp
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/02/18 01:12 PM

Happy First of Halloween!
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/02/18 02:54 PM

So I see Trump's "amazing deal" of a NAFTA replacement is just the same things that were in TPP plus a raise for Mexican auto workers to $15 an hour. Nice work Donnie! You screw something up and then claim victory when you stop screwing it up.

Trade Deal Has All Kinds Of Improvements? Thanks, Obama.
Posted by: Greger

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/02/18 06:50 PM

Quote:
Trump's "amazing deal"


Trump has proven himself not to be much of a deal maker. Even though he wrote the book on deal making...
He storms in, makes ridiculous demands and pompous declarations, then let's other folks handle the details.

Just as well.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/03/18 02:18 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Happy First of Halloween!

Disneyland / CA Adventure beat you to it, NW_P. Both parks are all about the "Spelltacular" Halloween event, at least is was on September 24th and 25th 2018.

The Haunted Mansion was all about Halloween and Christmas. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/03/18 02:19 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
So I see Trump's "amazing deal" of a NAFTA replacement is just the same things that were in TPP plus a raise for Mexican auto workers to $15 an hour. Nice work Donnie! You screw something up and then claim victory when you stop screwing it up.

That's how Fatboy rolls. Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/03/18 04:23 AM

Universal's Halloween Horror Nights is the big deal down here but I imagine Disney's got sh*t going on too. Fireworks were at 10:30 tonight so something special is going on. I can hear them every night. It's probably a 20 mile drive but only about ten as the crow flies.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/04/18 04:06 AM

The busboy who tried to help a wounded Robert F. Kennedy in 1968 dies.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/04/18 07:37 AM

Quote:
The Haunted Mansion was all about Halloween and Christmas.

Well, supposedly Jesus DID rise from the dead. I guess that makes him a zombie?
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/04/18 12:45 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Quote:
The Haunted Mansion was all about Halloween and Christmas.

Well, supposedly Jesus DID rise from the dead. I guess that makes him a zombie?



ROTFMOL
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/04/18 12:51 PM

Oops, I just started a thread on the NAF-TPP. I should have checked here first! Does that make it a "zombie" topic? I'll be Haunted Mansioning it, today, at WDW. That explains my distraction....
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/04/18 09:53 PM

Another violent RWNJ is threatening to shoot Democrats.

Quote:

James Patrick
September 22 at 11:43 AM ·
Getting ready if Kav is not confirmed .. whoever I think is to blame may God have mercy on their soul .. just cleaned out the gun shop where I get guns ammo and target practice .. bought all their 50 cal hollow points. I expect to be confronted and I will be ready to kill and ready to die.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/07/18 02:49 PM


Stupid orange clown: smile

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/07/18 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Quote:
The Haunted Mansion was all about Halloween and Christmas.

Well, supposedly Jesus DID rise from the dead. I guess that makes him a zombie?

Let's get Buffy the Slayer on the case. smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/07/18 03:42 PM

Quote:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer Is Now a Kavanaugh Accuser-Bashing Trump Troll
LIMK
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/07/18 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
Buffy the Vampire Slayer Is Now a Kavanaugh Accuser-Bashing Trump Troll
LIMK

Kristy Swanson does mostly Hallmark TV movies these days. coffee

I actually forgot there was a movie, I was thinking of the TV Buffy with Sarah Michelle Gellar when I wrote that. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/07/18 07:36 PM


Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/08/18 05:08 PM

I see Trump is tweeting about all the libel lawsuits he would like filed against Kavanaugh's accusers. Well, bring it on! In any real court case the defense would bring in ALL the witnesses and they would produce real evidence, that would all be public. Not like the carefully controlled FBI "investigation" and Senate hearings designed to ignore any damning evidence.

Each of those accusers would counter-sue and they would win. I would enjoy that fiasco immensely.

Trump: Toughen Libel Laws

Quote:
Trump, however, has no power to change libel laws, which are enacted at the state level, not federal. Experts also have noted that the president does not appear to understand libel laws or the First Amendment.
Posted by: Golem

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/08/18 10:12 PM

Posted by: Greger

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/09/18 02:11 AM

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/09/18 03:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger

The Berkeley Unified School District has celebrated Indigenous People's Day since the late 80s. Glad the rest of the country is finally catching up. coffee

Also, did you know that Malcom X's birthday is May 15th? I'm probably one of the very few Caucasians who know that. Why? I worked for Berkeley Unified School District. Yup, Malcom X's birthday is a school day off for BUSD too. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/09/18 03:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Golem

Boooooooooooo!!! mad
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/09/18 03:47 AM



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Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/10/18 06:34 PM

The forest was rapidly shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe.
It's handle was made of wood, and so therefore they thought it was one of their own.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/16/18 11:16 PM

Meet Uptown Spot

Awesome and scary at the same time.
Boston Dynamics.

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/19/18 04:58 AM

That's ironic because I just spent the week in Boston, delivering a Yellow Lab puppy to my niece's family! He doesn't dance (yet), but he's SO much cuter.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 03:29 AM

Well well well, here we are, just three hundred hours from the most important election in a generation and Trump is (A) threatening Mexico, (B) threatening a nuclear arms race, (C) sounding the alarm over a migrant INVASION (!) and (D) warning his cult me (COUGH COUGH!!!) errr...supporters that Democrats will try to seize power in an illegal election.

Now we get a leaked memo that says Trump intends to mount major court challenges if the Republicans lose the midterms, which could prevent Congress from being seated for MONTHS on end, plus the distinct possibility of attempting to overturn the election altogether, close the border with Mexico, and declare martial law.

And yet most people seem to say that comparing Trump to Hitler is silly, just like most Germans thought it silly to think Hitler was any kind of threat. Yeah, I'm concerned and more than a little worried.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 04:13 AM

I have absolutely no doubt Trump will declare the election rigged, but I also have no doubt that nobody important will believe him. He'll get laughed out of any court he tries to file suit in. New Congressmen will take their seats in January and those defeated will leave quietly for their corporate board and think-tank "jobs".
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 06:36 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I have absolutely no doubt Trump will declare the election rigged, but I also have no doubt that nobody important will believe him. He'll get laughed out of any court he tries to file suit in. New Congressmen will take their seats in January and those defeated will leave quietly for their corporate board and think-tank "jobs".


Not the first time people couldn't take their seats. Al Franken had to wait seven months, you're far to cavalier about this.
I'll research it more and get back to you on it, hopefully you're right, but you might not be, and we might be knee deep in...."orange tapioca".
Posted by: Greger

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 04:37 PM

Quote:
the most important election in a generation


Baloney. 2016 might have been, 2018 certainly is not. The only thing liable to happen is that Dems flip the house. Even that is uncertain.

Polls are not showing terrific leads by Democrats, most every race is a toss up. All indications are that there will not be blue wave of any magnitude. Win or lose, after the election things will pretty much go on just as they are now. And in 2020 the same claim will be made about the generational importance of that election.

It'll be interesting to see whether truly horrible government will get out the voters though.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 05:59 PM

My prediction is 34-40 D pickup in House.

My attention this morning is on the bombs sent to Dem folks. Suspicious packages sent to Time Warner Center, Clinton and Obama - CNN.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 06:14 PM

Saudi Crown Prince Vice President Pence Calls Khashoggi Killing Democrat Bomb Effort 'A Heinous Crime'

I believe both headlines... right? Ri-ight...
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/24/18 08:43 PM

I'm making a bet here: tonight Trump will imply, or blame, Democrats for today's bombings.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 05:44 AM

That's already happening.
As of Wednesday night (10-24-2018) the list is:

George Soros
Barack Obama
The Clintons
CNN Headquarters
Kamala Harris
John Brennan
Eric Holder
And now Maxine Waters.
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 12:49 PM

Add Joe Biden and Robert DeNiro to the recipients list.
Posted by: Kaine

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 04:20 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I'm making a bet here: tonight Trump will imply, or blame, Democrats for today's bombings.

He has. It's all the main stream media(CNN) and the democrats fault. Washington Post
We all know that this most moral of presidents to sit in the Oval office ever, absolutely has nothing to do with it.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 04:59 PM

9 bombs, 7 targets: Maxine Waters and Joe Biden got targeted twice. If it weren't for the last point, I'd say it could be misdirection, but I think a) it was intended to work, and b) it is politically motivated. One of the difficulties in situations like this is how much oxygen to give to the sicko who is mailing these packages, versus how much information to get to the public. This, by the way, is the most concerted effort at mass assassination in U.S. history. Think about that for a moment.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 05:27 PM

e-Yup: Trump points finger at opponents, media - CNN
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 07:03 PM

Mailed from Florida... Mar-a-Lago, maybe?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/25/18 11:47 PM

OMG, they are SHAMELESS! GOP sees new bomb scare victim: Trump
Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 12:29 AM

You found that surprising?
That’s all he does--obfuscate then misdirect. Then keep on pounding. It works! And his fans love him all the more for it.

Until that technique fails to deliver for Mr. Trump he will continue to use it.
To great effect... I might add.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 04:09 PM

Two Three more bombs and suspect arrested. According to Fix News, clearly a Bernie Sanders fan: picture of suspect's van.

Quote:
Sayoc, a registered Republican, has a lengthy criminal history in Florida dating back to 1991. He had been arrested and accused of threatening to use a bomb in 2002 and has also been arrested for felony theft and on drug charges.
Suspect arrested in Florida in connection with suspicious packages sent to Democrats - FOX
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Two Three more bombs and suspect arrested. According to Fix News, clearly a Bernie Sanders fan: picture of suspect's van.

Quote:
Sayoc, a registered Republican, has a lengthy criminal history in Florida dating back to 1991. He had been arrested and accused of threatening to use a bomb in 2002 and has also been arrested for felony theft and on drug charges.
Suspect arrested in Florida in connection with suspicious packages sent to Democrats - FOX


The percentage of people who will have to have large blue tarps on their vehicles while driving has just spiked.





Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 06:28 PM

Has Hannity or any of the other morons at Fox said anything more about this being a false flag operation? Pretty stupid to jump out there before you have any information and commit to an explanation that looks like total BS now.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 08:10 PM

My only response to the false flag people is

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 10:19 PM

Why in the world would someone jump to the conclusion that this perp is a Trump acolyte? Isn't it just as likely that he was set up as a pasty by those socialist Deems?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/26/18 10:30 PM

Trump minimizes bomb attacks by saying: “Who gets attacked more than me?” I really wish I was making this up.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/27/18 12:50 AM

Trump worshippers do not regard the targeted individuals as actual human beings.
They are demons, devils and such.



Did we actually learn something, Bill?
From what I'm reading and seeing on political forums all over the country, people learned that "there will never be enough payback for Waco".
They don't even care that Koresh was a child molester and that he surrounded his molester kingdom with an arsenal, bomb materials and accellerants.
All they knew was he was a holy man, and that's all they cared about.
Their biggest excuse was that the Feds could have intercepted Koresh anytime.
Nope sorry, Koresh's followers were instructed to set off the mother of all wars if that ever happened, so we would have had the Waco tragedy anyway, possibly with even more deaths.

So have we really learned anything from Oklahoma City? Nope, I don't think we have. SOME OF US have, but a growing number of people refuse to learn.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/27/18 03:48 AM

Super Typhoon Yutu Shows Not All U.S. Cyclones Get Equal Treatment - HuffPo. You see, of course, they can't vote for President, so they don't count.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/30/18 10:48 PM

I see Trump is bloviating some more about ending birthright citizenship by Executive Order, and some idiots in Congress are introducing such legislation. Despite the 14th Amendment being quite clear on the subject. Rep. Steven King claims that children of the undocumented fall into the exception meant for Ambassadors and such. But that exception specifically says it applies only to those not under the jurisdiction of the US. By his theory, the undocumented could commit any crime and not be arrested for it or charged, because they would not fall under US jurisdiction! WTF? Is the man insane, or just incredibly stupid?

I see this again and again, mostly Republicans promoting some "solution" to a problem that is 1000 times worse than the original problem. And they never seem to be able to understand that laws apply to everybody, so when they are out of power they will be totally screwed by their own creation.

I think we need something that punishes people who introduce EOs or legislation that is obviously unconstitutional. Like a $100,000 fine to cover all the hassles and court costs to throw it out.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: Roundtable for October 2018 - 10/30/18 11:06 PM

From Think Progress:
Quote:
The Supreme Court explained more than a century ago, in its 1898 decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark, why the Fourteenth Amendment contains a limited exemption for people not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States.

The real object of the fourteenth amendment of the constitution, in qualifying the words ‘all persons born in the United States’ by the addition ‘and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,’ would appear to have been to exclude, by the fewest and fittest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the national government, unknown to the common law), the two classes of cases,- children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation, and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state,-both of which, as has already been shown, by the law of England and by our own law, from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country.

When the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, in other words, there were a few limited classes of children who were born with the United States’ territory but not subject to its laws. They included some Native Americans whose tribes existed as separate sovereign nations within the United States, but also children of foreign diplomats (who enjoy diplomatic immunity from the law of the nation they are visiting), and any children born to a hostile invading army.