ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020

Posted by: Greger

ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 02:41 AM

Welcome to the ReaderRant Roundtable
for Winter of 2020

Holy cow! Solstice is on Saturday! Winter is here and it's time for a new RoundTable. Yule begins at dawn on Saturday 12/21 and Solstice occurs at 11:19PM Eastern time. That's when, on our corkscrew trip though space, the axis of the tiny sphere we live on is tilted the farthermost from the small shiny thing we are spinning around in vast immeasurable space.

It is the longest night of the year and by virtue of that, the shortest day. On this night, legend has it that the two mighty rulers, the Oak King and The Holly King will do battle once again and, once again the Oak King will prevail and the days will begin growing longer. They will battle again during Litha, at midsummer, and the Holly King will then be victorious! It's a little like the WWE in that respect because the winner is pre-determined.



Have a Happy and Blessed Yule, Y'all!


Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 02:53 AM

Um...**Addendum** Since I see we have an Australian member now...all that is likely to be complete hokum to him since he's dealing with the hottest summer on record since last summer.

They're actually celebrating Litha down there on the 21st.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 05:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Um...**Addendum** Since I see we have an Australian member now...all that is likely to be complete hokum to him since he's dealing with the hottest summer on record since last summer.

They're actually celebrating Litha down there on the 21st.


True that, the "wet bulb" temp has been inching toward around 92 or 93 degrees. At 95, the human body ceases being able to compensate and heatstroke become almost a default.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 05:14 AM

By the way, I'm dropping PDX Rick's comment from the fall thread in here just in case, before I lock the Fall RoundTable.

PDX Rick on Nancy

Originally Posted By: pdx Rick
The longer Nancy holds off sending the Articles to the Senate, the more Trump will become unhinged and drive him bonkers. grin

Nancy will be like a cat toying with a mouse before going in for the kill. Bow
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 07:44 PM

Trump has declared impeachment null and void since it has not been sent to the Senate.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 08:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Trump has declared impeachment null and void since it has not been sent to the Senate.


He can declare anything he likes. He has precisely zero authority on this issue.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 08:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Trump has declared impeachment null and void since it has not been sent to the Senate.

I don't care what Presidents who have been impeached have to say. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Greger
Trump has declared impeachment null and void since it has not been sent to the Senate.


He can declare anything he likes. He has precisely zero authority on this issue.

...or anything else, really. smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/20/19 09:18 PM

He seems to create his own authority and doesn't need you to grant it to him. Ultimately his house of cards will fall but it looks like impeachment didn't do the trick.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/21/19 04:41 AM

Have you ever read anything in a dream? Or in other words, dreamed you were reading?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/21/19 07:42 PM

Hi folks,
My workstation, "The Beast II" has died. It will be about a week or so before "The Beast III" is operational so my access to the Rant is a bit limited till then. Try not to celebrate too loudly, I can still hear you. laugh
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/22/19 06:35 AM



Eddie Murphy hosted SNL tonight. The entire show was great - even the musical guest Lizzo.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/22/19 06:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Hi folks,
My workstation, "The Beast II" has died. It will be about a week or so before "The Beast III" is operational so my access to the Rant is a bit limited till then. Try not to celebrate too loudly, I can still hear you. laugh

Have good Christmas. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/24/19 06:55 AM

Q. What's the difference between a lentil and a chickpea?

A. Nobody thinks Putin has video of Trump watching a lentil.
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/24/19 11:55 AM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Q. What's the difference between a lentil and a chickpea?

A. Nobody thinks Putin has video of Trump watching a lentil.


LOL ROTFMOL ThumbsUp

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/24/19 05:08 PM

Like Jeff, I have limited access. I have been relying on my tablet for the last week or so, and only now got access through my computer. I am at my vacation place, so the internet is notoriously spotty - indeed, my speedtest this morning yielded a <2MpS speed - so I may be sporadic for another week or so. Nonetheless, I will be contributing off and on. What else is there to do in the dead of winter?
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/24/19 05:25 PM

Quote:
my speedtest this morning yielded a <2MpS speed


I've never seen a speedtest with numbers that high. 1.1 is the speed I usually work with, it sometimes surges to 1.5
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/24/19 08:54 PM


Season's Greeting from the Swamp
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/25/19 11:27 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
What else is there to do in the dead of winter?



At one time, I am sure that the question was not hard to answer.

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Happy Holidays with a dash of Impeachment Trial with witnesses for all.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/25/19 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
What else is there to do in the dead of winter?

At one time, I am sure that the question was not hard to answer.

I thought NWP would be hard at ramping up his campaign for a seat in Congress?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/25/19 03:13 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
What else is there to do in the dead of winter?

At one time, I am sure that the question was not hard to answer.

I thought NWP would be hard at ramping up his campaign for a seat in Congress?
You know, this is honestly the most seriously I've considered running for office. My wife, though, doesn't want to share me. Opportunities like this are so rare. But she's really enjoying our life as it is right now.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/26/19 02:11 AM

Quote:
1.1 is the speed I usually work with


I started online stock trading over dialup. 56K was state of the art then. Works fine for email and text-only websites.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/26/19 02:15 AM

Quote:
My wife, though, doesn't want to share me.


It's a huge commitment. Too much for most people. Generally just true altruists and psychopaths. You would be one of the good ones, but I don't expect anybody to disrupt there life (and retirement) that way.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/26/19 04:13 AM


It's definitely a calling. How would you even begin the get the support of the DNC? Hmm
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/26/19 04:20 AM

DOH! I know why Trump hates wind generators! He recently lost a $300,000 lawsuit against the government of Scotland over an offshore windfarm near his golf course there. Everything is always about his personal wealth or his ego...

He has lost money for seven years running on the venture, including 1.1 million pounds last year alone. Perhaps another bankruptcy is in the offing?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/27/19 05:06 AM

Plus, the groundskeepers have to go around and clean out all the holes every morning, Seems the locals have made a recurrent prank of "filling them", so to speak.

On a more pleasant topic: >How would you even begin the get the support of the DNC?

He would just let one Party official know he was interested in running and they would be all over him. Our NWP is so qualified and would be so appealing to voters he would help the Party win other races.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/27/19 07:39 AM

I'm blushing. I do have a strong desire to put my body where my mouth is (or, at least my keyboard). That's how I ended up in the Army. The mental stimulation of all of those policy issues would be exhilarating. Maybe what I should do, though, is work on the campaign of whoever does run, and become a policy wonk for them. It would be nice to be "in charge", though...
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/27/19 07:45 AM

Oh man, the filing deadline isn't until May and the declared candidates are... not strong.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/27/19 01:12 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Oh man, the filing deadline isn't until May and the declared candidates are... not strong.

Like the chance meeting of the guy in the stairwell who give me Rocksus, this was meant to be NW_P. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/27/19 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I'm blushing. I do have a strong desire to put my body where my mouth is (or, at least my keyboard). That's how I ended up in the Army. The mental stimulation of all of those policy issues would be exhilarating. Maybe what I should do, though, is work on the campaign of whoever does run, and become a policy wonk for them. It would be nice to be "in charge", though...

I going to offer a few observations (not advice) gleaned from a few decades of interactions with my Senators and Representatives, and other assorted elected officials. And from trying to do 'big' things and still have a life (and wife).

The idea that you have capabilities to provide policy support to a fresh Representative, I have no doubt. The idea that someone with whom you do not already have a long history of engaging with on policy issues recognizing that you are a valuable asset is hopeless. New Congresscritters, in particular, listen to money, as they are in constant campaign mode, given the realities of our political process. Senators tend to have more actual policy staff because the length of their term allows them to consider things that are not solely reactive to emergent events and fundraising. In any case, the elected will be the boss, and the boss always knows more than the staff.

Congresspeople don't generally have much in the way of policy staff, largely due to largely not having a policy focus or a budget for it, and largely due to the pressure from constituents to respond in doing something for them.

Most new Representatives will have big egos and be dumber than you, two big reasons why you would be extremely frustrated in any attempts to help them with policy issues.

If you run, you will have to be a salesman and a schmoozer to get elected. Those 'qualities' are more important than being smart and having good ideas. A politician has to sell that they are smart and have good ideas, as the majority of voters won't recognize it otherwise (see the paragraph above). The downside is that all too often the really good salesmen are dumb, lying, egotistical, and corrupt assholes (see example @#impotus) and you will have to compete with them in the campaign and again while in office.

On the subject of wives, from what you have shared in the past you have a high level of desire to be active, and possibly ambitious, while your wife does not share that desire, being older and content to be on a comfortable glide path into the future. That's a tough one. I don't even know how to talk about it. My wife isn't always happy about some of my windmill tilting, and I often long for a calmer and more predictable life of just doing my own projects, but there is also a strong feeling of responsibility that I have useful things to offer and would feel terrible if I abandoned the effort in favor of enjoying the rest of my life in idleness and ease. Fortunately, my lady shares a number of related aspirations (she always wanted to be a farmer) and is very willing to participate in some of the activities that come along with me and my mission.

I have considered running for local office before, but really don't think I would be all that good at it, and it would suck up valuable time and resources from what I am good at.

I bet those ramblings don't help much, but hey, it could be an interesting new topic!

"How do folks make big decisions in life?"
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/27/19 04:08 PM

I truly value your insights, my friends. Realistically, I'm probably too old to take on such a monumental and life- changing endeavor. Moreover, I'm becoming curmudgeonly and intolerant of shallow people with shallow positions. That, I think, would make me less adaptable to the contest. As it turns out, my State Representative has been mentioned as a potential candidate. Were she to run, I would be an enthusiastic supporter. She's smart, dedicated, principled and gay. All, I think, the kind of attributes I want in my representative. Finding a candidate one can really get behind may be almost as good, and less personally risky.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 02:59 AM

Do you have any charisma?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 02:42 PM



Fed study finds Trump tariffs backfired
Market Watch.com

Everything that Donnie Dumbass touches turns to shyte. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 03:01 PM


...but wait! There's more! smile

“The Economic Effects of Trade Policy Uncertainty”

Quote:
We study the effects of unexpected changes in trade policy uncertainty (TPU) on the U.S. economy. We construct three measures of TPU based on newspaper coverage, firms’ earnings conference calls, and aggregate data on tariff rates. We document that increases in TPU reduce investment and activity using both firm-level and aggregate macroeconomic data. We interpret the empirical results through the lens of a two-country general equilibrium model with nominal rigidities and firms’ export participation decisions. In the model as in the data, news and increased uncertainty about higher future tariffs reduce investment and activity.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 03:17 PM



Dude looks creepy as fck. shocked , crazy
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Dude looks creepy as fck. shocked , crazy


He been maintaining that look for the past twenty years.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 05:35 PM

Hey, Happy New Year, Ranters!
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 07:53 PM

I'm in Facebook jail until 1/17, for taunting some hayseed that apparently has delicate feelings.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 08:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I'm in Facebook jail until 1/17, for taunting some hayseed that apparently has delicate feelings.

That was you???
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/28/19 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I'm in Facebook jail until 1/17, for taunting some hayseed that apparently has delicate feelings.

Whiny Conservative snowflakes pro'lly ratted you out. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/29/19 12:18 AM


#MoscowMItch McTurtle now has two former Marines running as Dems challenging his Senate seat in Kentucky. Couldn't happen to a better rightwing arsehole.

smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/29/19 01:55 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

#MoscowMItch McTurtle now has two former Marines running as Dems challenging his Senate seat in Kentucky. Couldn't happen to a better rightwing arsehole.

smile


He's gonna get reelected, though. McConnell could s*** on the podium and Kentucky would vote for him.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/29/19 05:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

#MoscowMItch McTurtle now has two former Marines running as Dems challenging his Senate seat in Kentucky. Couldn't happen to a better rightwing arsehole.

smile


He's gonna get reelected, though. McConnell could s*** on the podium and Kentucky would vote for him.

Kentucky voted for a Dem governor. smile

There have been over 300 elections since Donald Trump was electorally voted-in, in 2016, ReTHUGlicons have only won a dozen or so of those 300 elections.

Hmm
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/29/19 06:14 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

#MoscowMItch McTurtle now has two former Marines running as Dems challenging his Senate seat in Kentucky. Couldn't happen to a better rightwing arsehole.

smile


He's gonna get reelected, though. McConnell could s*** on the podium and Kentucky would vote for him.

Kentucky voted for a Dem governor. smile

There have been over 300 elections since Donald Trump was electorally voted-in, in 2016, ReTHUGlicons have only won a dozen or so of those 300 elections.

Hmm


McConnell will win reelection. Mark my words.
Posted by: CPWILL

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/29/19 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

#MoscowMItch McTurtle now has two former Marines running as Dems challenging his Senate seat in Kentucky. Couldn't happen to a better rightwing arsehole.

smile


laugh

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 12:42 AM


Welp, two Marines to one codgy, dodgy, old Russia dictator loving turtle.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 01:35 AM


John Lewis has Stage IV pancreatic cancer.

cry
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 01:41 AM

Well, everybody you have ever loved, hated, admired, or desired will die. And so will you. The question is do you want people mourning your loss, or lining up around the block to desecrate your grave. I prefer flowers over urine.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 02:34 AM

What few might give a f*ck have my invitation to come on down to the landfill and piss their bladders out. I have requested that my ashes be thrown out with the trash.
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 01:22 PM

I'm not sure where I should put this. But this was in my inbox this AM. Considering the impeachment process is going on, the divisiveness, the polarization and mega high partisanship we have in today's political era. This gave me a good chuckle.

Obama, Trump Tie as Most Admired Man in 2019

https://news.gallup.com/poll/273125/obam...ign=syndication
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 02:35 PM

Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/30/19 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Well, everybody you have ever loved, hated, admired, or desired will die. And so will you. The question is do you want people mourning your loss, or lining up around the block to desecrate your grave. I prefer flowers over urine.


"The best you can hope for is to be buried in secret, so your grave doesn't get violated!"
- The lawyer in Heavy Metal
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 03:10 AM


What is it about my viewing habits would cause Netflix to recommend Trailer Park Boys to me? Hmm , coffee
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 05:51 AM

Personally, I'm going for cremation followed by scattering at sea. I don't want to sit on somebody's mantle for years. Wouldn't mind medical students learning their craft poking around in me first.

Had a donor card for years but now I'm too decrepit. Although my kidneys might be worth studying: I've always had sugar in my urine, but never a high blood sugar test. If I eat a lost of sugar, I pee it out right away, so I am diabetes-proof!

BTW, heard they have a 100% effective Ebola vaccine now.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 05:55 AM

>Trailer Park Boys

They keep recommending it to me too. I also have English checked in settings and they keep on recommending films with no English audio. As long as it has subtitles, I think they list it. Seems there's no way to tell them I want audio in English and I can't see well enough to read subtitles.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 12:51 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
BTW, heard they have a 100% effective Ebola vaccine now.

Scientists are pretty sure they have a cure for sickle cell anemia.

Dr. John Tisdale of NIH says if this study continues to hold which it currently is, this form of cell DNA replacement therapy can be used to rewrite the genetic code of 7,000 other diseases that are typed wrong in the genetic code.

smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
BTW, heard they have a 100% effective Ebola vaccine now.

Scientists are pretty sure they have a cure for sickle cell anemia.

Dr. John Tisdale of NIH says if this study continues to hold which it currently is, this form of cell DNA replacement therapy can be used to rewrite the genetic code of 7,000 other diseases that are typed wrong in the genetic code.

smile



Technically-speaking, sickle cell anemia isn't a mistake.

If you're the carrier half of the affected population, malaria has a much harder time infecting your blood.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 07:13 PM

Quote:
never a high blood sugar test.

What time of day are you testing? I'm diabetic as feck and my sugar is always fine in the morning when I'm fasting. Hits 500 around midafternoon without insulin. Peeing out sugar is the ONLY way to get rid of it if you aren't processing it. You'd know if it was serious though, eventually about all you can do is piss and drink. Then you start losing weight and your teeth. After that you die.

Took years before I was diagnosed because I never had a high blood sugar test.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
never a high blood sugar test.

What time of day are you testing? I'm diabetic as feck and my sugar is always fine in the morning when I'm fasting. Hits 500 around midafternoon without insulin. Peeing out sugar is the ONLY way to get rid of it if you aren't processing it. You'd know if it was serious though, eventually about all you can do is piss and drink. Then you start losing weight and your teeth. After that you die.

Took years before I was diagnosed because I never had a high blood sugar test.


I am a type II diabetic, and the highest I ever tested was 176 (post-fast). Fortunately for me, I responded well to metformin and diet (ie, starving to death), and never became insulin dependent.

I can't even imagine a 500. I felt like crap as it was.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 10:43 PM

Funny thing is that I can't feel it. I have no idea when it's high. Probably 216 right now...? I skipped the morning meds except for the insulin. Turns out it's 296. Yeah. fairly normal numbers for me. Probly better go take some pills and get some insulin...

It was 117 when I got up this morning.

Yeah, I know it's gonna kill me.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 12/31/19 10:46 PM

I was on Metformin for a few years but my kidneys began to complain.
I switched to Berberine about three years ago and recommend it very highly.
The trick with Berberine is, you take it daily for about six weeks, then go on a mild fasting regimen for about a week or maybe four days without it, then resume for another six weeks or so.
It WILL control your blood sugar, and without the potential kidney harm or the risk for dementia, both of which are acknowledged side effects of Metformin.

My teeth are the "payback" for my many years of cocaine abuse.
Clean for twenty-five years but the damage was long term and began while I was still a crackhead.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 02:05 AM

I said I never had a high blood sugar because I have never had a high A1C test. That test tells you about the highest blood sugar you have had in the last three months. Mine says my highest blood sugar was about 100. They keep on giving them to me and I keep on scoring about 100, even though my diet is not at all what a diabetic should eat.

Colonoscopy on Friday. Already on the low roughage diet prep. Last one a decade ago was fine.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Funny thing is that I can't feel it. I have no idea when it's high. Probably 216 right now...? I skipped the morning meds except for the insulin. Turns out it's 296. Yeah. fairly normal numbers for me. Probly better go take some pills and get some insulin...

It was 117 when I got up this morning.

Yeah, I know it's gonna kill me.


Thing is, I guess we're all different because I sure feel it.
Holy moly, if I go above 200, that's me flat out on the bed and moaning about the room spinning around and everything looking all shiny, the ringing in my ears and having a terrific headache.
That eventually goes away after a couple of hours and I am left feeling like a drained rag, so enervated that even sleep doesn't help. And feverish sweats don't help either.

The Metformin AND the Berberine both have the remarkable ability to turn that around if taken in a timely manner or to ward it off to begin with.

I crash really hard, it's a problem.
It's also another reason why my phone largely stopped ringing for camera dept gigs in the last three years.
People were worried about how badly I was sweating on set, a couple of folks thought I was on drugs.
Setting it all straight didn't help, it's still seen as a liability, what if that old bald guy keels over in the middle of the shoot?

One of my last gigs was a DVD interview with Carrie Fisher's sister Tricia Fisher. She called production concerned that I looked like I was about to have a heart attack.

It was a hot summer day in 2016 and humping the gear up that hilly driveway was difficult. I literally ran out of dry sweat towels.
I couldn't stop the waterfall coming off my head.

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 03:35 AM

In case anyone isn't online later, Happy 2020 to everyone.
Happy New Year, Ranters!

ThumbsUp allhail ThumbsUp
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 04:10 AM



Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 05:21 AM

Quote:
Thing is, I guess we're all different because I sure feel it.

It's the lows that freak me out. I use enough insulin to kill a mule and sometimes wake up in the middle of a crash and on the way to a coma. As soon as I realize what's happening I make a mad dash to the kitchen and start shoving sugar into my face.
I manage it fairly well. Kidneys are fine and the doctor said my liver is healed and I can drink again. Sparingly. No reason I shouldn't survive to ring in another one next year.

The Disney fireworks show was exactly 15 minutes long. Sounded like quite a finale.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 05:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Funny thing is that I can't feel it. I have no idea when it's high. Probably 216 right now...? I skipped the morning meds except for the insulin. Turns out it's 296. Yeah. fairly normal numbers for me. Probly better go take some pills and get some insulin...

It was 117 when I got up this morning.

Yeah, I know it's gonna kill me.


I can feel if it hits 120, or goes below 90. Not sure why some people can and some people can't.

I've been between 90-105 every morning for 6 months or so. My A1C has gone from 8.7 in 2016 to 5.5 now.

Jenn and I are both diabetic, almost identically so. She weighs our food on a postage scale, etc.

So lost 50 pounds and the gut, blood sugar is normal, I just don't get to, you know, EAT anything. It's unpleasant, but I have a duty to hang around long enough to embarrass my great-grandchildren.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 06:37 PM

I spent a week in the hospital a while back. Six days with absolutely no food whatsoever and my blood sugar was still high.

My diet is pretty regimented, high protein, high fat, not enough fresh vegetables, carbs are limited but not verboten. I adjust my meds to the amount of carbs I eat daily. A1C hovers around 8.

I got no grandkids or anybody I care about, literally don't care if I live or die so I'm not gonna make a huge effort to eat sh*t I don't like just to live longer.

Think I'll fry up some catfish and hushpuppies for supper. With a sweet potato on the side.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/01/20 09:15 PM

Quote:
catfish and hushpuppies for supper. With a sweet potato on the side

Sounds great. I am currently trying to follow the pre-draino diet for my colon inspection. At least they got the clean-out down to one day. Start drinking the stuff at 7 am, poop for 6 hours, and the camera goes in at 1:30 pm. So most of the really bad stuff happens on just one day.

My A1C is 5.1 or so, every year they run it.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 12:47 AM

I've got that coming up in about two weeks....first time for me. I've managed to dodge it for years.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 01:27 AM

Totally painless. They give you the atomic bomb of laxatives. The worst part is sitting on the throne for hours until you poop transparent. Hard to believe but it's true.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 04:07 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Totally painless. They give you the atomic bomb of laxatives. The worst part is sitting on the throne for hours until you poop transparent. Hard to believe but it's true.


If you have MS, there's a chance you may spend up to a week or more without solid food, depending on how the MS affects your body.
The last time Karen had to have this, that's how long it took...seven days with no solid food.

They just couldn't get things moving, until suddenly they did, jumpin' jehosephat.

(did I spell that right, I don't think so!)
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 04:39 AM

It's a feckin nuisance.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 05:16 AM

My MS is pretty asymptomatic. Probably since I keep my vitamin A level high and always take my MS meds. My lymphocyte count is about half of the normal lower range. Just about everything else is normal, so the Tecfidera is working well. They don't know how it works, but it does. My only overt symptom is numb feet, and my neurologist says that is not an MS symptom.

I am very fortunate not to have the host of symptoms usually associated with MS.
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 12:12 PM

Greger, the prevention is better than the cure. My inspection (once every 3 years now) is this Tuesday. The cure: 5 hours of surgery, 6 months of radiation, 6 months chemo, 6 weeks of 24/7 chemo infusion. So 36 hours of no eats and 24 hours of water only and a 40 minute inspection is a cake walk.

Besides, they have good drugs...
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 05:25 PM

So here's a case of somebody reading the room wrong. This guy is running for Congress as an Independent in Virginia. He says:

Quote:
“A lot of people who disagreed with someone like Trump … might vote for them anyway just because the establishment doesn’t like them.”

Independent Candidate

Then he tells his interviewer he's in favor of Father-Daughter incest, all women as property, and keeping rape-slaves in the basement! He was barred for running for state office for a while because of his conviction and prison sentence for threatening President Obama, but now he can run in any election. He's trying to appeal to Libertarians, pedophiles, and incels.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
My MS is pretty asymptomatic. Probably since I keep my vitamin A level high and always take my MS meds. My lymphocyte count is about half of the normal lower range. Just about everything else is normal, so the Tecfidera is working well. They don't know how it works, but it does. My only overt symptom is numb feet, and my neurologist says that is not an MS symptom.

I am very fortunate not to have the host of symptoms usually associated with MS.


You're in the remitting-relapsing stage, and in a way that's a good thing, because a lot of MS drugs can work their magic at that stage, and you might get lucky enough to stretch that phase for as long as you live, and never transition to primary or secondary progressive.

I think maybe your neuro-doc is not correct about the numb feet.
Every MS-er I have ever met has complained about their feet.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 05:34 PM

Maybe: We are going to have a look shortly to see if the numb feet issue is a circulation problem. That only started after I started taking blood pressure meds. Maybe I needed a little more blood pressure to get my feet perfused well. Often my feet are distinctly colder than the rest of my body, which suggests lack of circulation.

It's possible that I do have diabetes, but most of the bad symptoms are absent because my blood sugar stays low. It's still an autoimmune disease, even if your blood sugar is perfect.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 06:25 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Maybe: We are going to have a look shortly to see if the numb feet issue is a circulation problem. That only started after I started taking blood pressure meds. Maybe I needed a little more blood pressure to get my feet perfused well. Often my feet are distinctly colder than the rest of my body, which suggests lack of circulation.

It's possible that I do have diabetes, but most of the bad symptoms are absent because my blood sugar stays low. It's still an autoimmune disease, even if your blood sugar is perfect.


Diabetes isn't high blood sugar, it's uncontrolled blood sugar.

Hell, the <80 days are worse than the >160 days.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 06:43 PM

Orange juice is cheaper than insulin, and a lot easier to find.

But you are right. I didn't think about that. I have a mechanism to deal with high blood sugar, but not one to deal with low, and I can go all day without eating. So much for the asymptomatic diabetes theory.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 06:51 PM

I've had a few bouts with diverticulitis so I've decided to let them look around in there. Ya know? So I don't have a doctor next year tell me "I'm sorry Mr. Kyle but...."

I've said that I have no particular reason to live, But I'm also in no hurry to die. I have a dog to take care of, when the time comes I'll decide whether to get another dog or not.

Late onset muscular dystrophy is my biggest issue. Getting out of this chair and making a pot of coffee pretty much wears me out...

Turns out that my favorite thing to do is sit right here in this chair.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 10:27 PM

Sitting in a comfy desk chair isn't near as bad as it used to be, with internet and Netflix available on demand. I spend a lot of time in my chair, too. Still go fix the 6 dogs their meals, and go on poop cleanup detail every day.

I did recently install an electric dryer so we can get off propane and on homegrown solar electricity. Had to cut a new vent through the wall and move a 240 VAC outlet. Works great. Socks used to be line dried. Now the are incredibly soft.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/02/20 10:50 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Sitting in a comfy desk chair isn't near as bad as it used to be, with internet and Netflix available on demand. I spend a lot of time in my chair, too. Still go fix the 6 dogs their meals, and go on poop cleanup detail every day.

I did recently install an electric dryer so we can get off propane and on homegrown solar electricity. Had to cut a new vent through the wall and move a 240 VAC outlet. Works great. Socks used to be line dried. Now the are incredibly soft.


Cheez whiz, an electric dryer? I have to imagine that takes a huge bite out of the solar array. Of course if you were using bottle gas I totally understand.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 02:47 AM


In Seattle, new construction can only be electric. Only new restaurants can have gas because of the carbon emissions of natural gas.

Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 03:19 AM

As much as my wife uses any dryer, it won't make much difference. She line dries any time it isn't raining, and that is quite rare here. We have more solar capacity than we need. The big difference will be hot water. When we run out of propane next, I have a little electric water heater that does on demand. Our biggest demand is 1 gallon per minute for the shower, since she uses cold water for clothes washing. So we can get away with a tiny water heater. Damned thing is about 14" by 7" by 4"! We already have a spare 30 amp breaker. These electric flash heaters are incredibly cheap, too.

But really, that electric flash heater will just be backup for a solar hot water heater I plan to build. It will use a large reservoir of hot water, so hopefully I will never have to use the flash heater.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 04:18 AM

I use gas for hot water only. It costs $72 a month. LP gas. They top off my tank twice a year. Depending on prices I usually only pay 10 months then I have enough credit to cover the rest. I thought about a whole house on demand gas and I thought about going electic but this old water heater just keeps making hot water and not complaining so I'm inclined to just leave things be...I used to cook with gas too, but LP gas is kind of dissapointing to cook with and when a horribly expensive gas stove failed me one CHristmas I replaced it with an electric range.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 04:40 AM


Melanie needs to rein-in her second child before he gets us all killed.

Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 05:10 AM



Polls are starting to look really bad for Trump. Looks like he’ll have to start a war or major conflict to win re-election. Don’t put it past him!

(Actually Trump said the above about Obama in 2012. If there is ever a case of Trump projection, it is now.) crazy
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 05:53 AM

>electric range

That's next when we use up some more of our propane. Craig's List is terrific for those. Enough people around her, electric stoves are free if you have a truck to pick them up off the curb. We do.

They also tend to run forever, and it's dirt cheap and easy to replace an electric element.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 03:30 PM

When it comes time for that I really recommend the glass ceramic top stoves. They aren't as easy to fix if they break, but mostly they don't break.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/03/20 04:38 PM

I thought about an induction cooktop. We already use a little convection oven for small things, but it's not going to cook a package of chicken breasts, much less a turkey. I like to buy things like that on sale, cook them all at once, and freeze the ones we don't eat right away. So we need something with a conventional oven.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/04/20 03:51 AM

Induction cooktops are cool, you won't likely find one out by the curb though. Seems like they should be far more efficient than anything else. You probably know the answer to that...
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/04/20 10:07 AM

Yes, they are efficient. I would have to buy one, but they are surprisingly cheap. You also have to toss some of your pans, since they have to be iron or steel to work.

Obviously, I lived through the colonoscopy. Not too bad. I hardly even felt the plastic vein catheter go in: Good sign, that the team really does a lot of these. Light sedation I hardly felt, but it didn't hurt much. Kind of fun to watch on big screen as the doc cut polyps out. Worst part of it was getting up at 6:45 AM so I could start drinking the stuff.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/04/20 01:59 PM


How is that ignorant orange know-it-all putting American lives in danger today? Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/04/20 08:19 PM

I've noticed that HuffPost is doing something lazy and misleading. They headline with an anti-Trump story that looks like it's current, but in tiny print the date on it is months old. Like this:

Quote:
Donald Trump’s Last 24 Hours Have Been Particularly Stupid And Offensive And Weird
The president attacked Democratic-voting Jews, called himself “the chosen one” and got mad that Denmark won’t sell him Greenland.

Right at the top it says: 08/21/2019 04:10 pm ET
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/04/20 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I've noticed that HuffPost is doing something lazy and misleading. They headline with an anti-Trump story that looks like it's current, but in tiny print the date on it is months old. Like this:

Quote:
Donald Trump’s Last 24 Hours Have Been Particularly Stupid And Offensive And Weird
The president attacked Democratic-voting Jews, called himself “the chosen one” and got mad that Denmark won’t sell him Greenland.

Right at the top it says: 08/21/2019 04:10 pm ET

Staff is pro'lly still on holiday. Hmm

I never read HuffPo. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 12:13 AM

I dream of working in the dental field, growing toothsome crops.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 04:38 AM

I've seen that dental technology will one day be able to grow new teeth right in your mouth. I've got a handful of implants and they're pretty close to the real thing.

And hear's a question...do they salvage all the titanium that comes through the crematoriums?
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 04:41 AM

Quote:
I never read HuffPo

I still click through and read the headlines.
Never stay long enough for the autoplay noisy crap to start up.

Place has gone downhill but there's no paywall.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 07:47 AM




Iran...if you're listening...Fatass Trump uses an unsecured iPhone. Also, please release his taxes. And golly, I hope nothing bad happens to his big, beautiful buildings in Azerbaijan and his twin towers in Istanbul

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 03:43 PM


Quote:
We’ve got this perverse situation in which the vast analytic powers of the entire world are being spent trying to understand a guy whose thoughts are often just six fireflies beeping randomly in a jar.

-- David Brooks
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
I've seen that dental technology will one day be able to grow new teeth right in your mouth.


Whu-whu-whu-wha-a-a-at????
Fo-GIT the titanium, what's this about growing new teefs in yo mouf?
I have a screaming need for that right now, ASAP.
I've lost so many teeth (shedding one now, very painful!) that if I smile I look like a Tea Bagger.

If it keeps up, I'll sound just like that first line after whu-whaat when I talk.

If you have a link, please share Bow

Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 06:06 PM

Implants are the way to go now but they're pretty pricey. If you're nearing a point where dentures are in your future you can get "all on four" where a whole set of uppers or lowers get mounted on four implants.
Process takes most of a year for any implant. When the dentist extracts that tooth have him do a bone graft to fill the socket. It provides a base for an implant. When that heals(6 mnths) they put the titanium screw in your jaw. 6 more months they attach the crown to it.

You can't tell it from your real teeth.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/05/20 09:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Implants are the way to go now but they're pretty pricey. If you're nearing a point where dentures are in your future you can get "all on four" where a whole set of uppers or lowers get mounted on four implants.
Process takes most of a year for any implant. When the dentist extracts that tooth have him do a bone graft to fill the socket. It provides a base for an implant. When that heals(6 mnths) they put the titanium screw in your jaw. 6 more months they attach the crown to it.

You can't tell it from your real teeth.


Right now I can't even afford a simple extraction.
Without going into detail, let's just say "Nobody can screw you like family" and, while I am supposed to be financially okay, family has decided that I should play the role of Bob Cratchit in Dickens' famous book.

It's not intentional...no one is saying "Screw you, Jeff"...they're just incredibly tone deaf, as in one brother crying poverty from behind the wheel of his new Mercedes.

I'll be living with this swivel tooth for a while longer.
Ain't a damn thing I can do about it either, unless I rob a bank.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/06/20 12:39 AM

Greetings ranters. Hope all have a happy and prosperous new year.
Later,
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/06/20 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Greetings ranters. Hope all have a happy and prosperous new year.
Later,


Dude, so great to see you back again, please stick around!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/07/20 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Greetings ranters. Hope all have a happy and prosperous new year.
Later,

Hi Livetoride. Long time, no see. Happy nd prosperous New Year to you too.

smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/07/20 08:24 PM

This was interesting:

Michael Steele said the GOP needs “to be careful.”

Quote:
Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has warned the GOP of the possible long-term consequences of backing President Donald Trump over military action against Iran.

Steele served as the RNC chair from 2009 to 2011 and in the Trump era has become one of the GOP’s staunchest critics. Last month, he said the current Republican Party is “somewhat irrelevant in the overall scheme of democracy.”

“Because we’ve taken ourselves so far outside of — it’s not even mainstream, we’re not even near a stream,” he said. “We’re just kind of standing in the middle of nowhere with Donald Trump screaming at us.”
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/07/20 09:06 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
This was interesting:

Michael Steele said the GOP needs “to be careful.”

Quote:
Michael Steele, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, has warned the GOP of the possible long-term consequences of backing President Donald Trump over military action against Iran.

Steele served as the RNC chair from 2009 to 2011 and in the Trump era has become one of the GOP’s staunchest critics. Last month, he said the current Republican Party is “somewhat irrelevant in the overall scheme of democracy.”

“Because we’ve taken ourselves so far outside of — it’s not even mainstream, we’re not even near a stream,” he said. “We’re just kind of standing in the middle of nowhere with Donald Trump screaming at us.”


This is amazing. I just sprayed coffee on my monitor.
Posted by: SimonSC

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/08/20 02:10 PM

Wow, it's been hard to turn the news off long enough to say "hi", but Happy New Year, CHBRR.

re. the Mr. Steele above... I'm often pleasantly surprised to find a reasonable human being behind a political exterior. Often not... but perhaps not so often...

John Baird was a good example, PM Stephen Harpers "pit bull" in parliament but actually a nice person "in real life".
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/08/20 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: SimonSC
Wow, it's been hard to turn the news off long enough to say "hi", but Happy New Year, CHBRR.

re. the Mr. Steele above... I'm often pleasantly surprised to find a reasonable human being behind a political exterior. Often not... but perhaps not so often...

John Baird was a good example, PM Stephen Harpers "pit bull" in parliament but actually a nice person "in real life".


Perhaps the venerable Mr. Steele is actually part Canadian? LOL
Glad to see you again SimonSC.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/10/20 05:22 PM

Maybe there is something to the idea that Trump is The Lord...

Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/10/20 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: SimonSC
Wow, it's been hard to turn the news off long enough to say "hi", but Happy New Year, CHBRR.

re. the Mr. Steele above... I'm often pleasantly surprised to find a reasonable human being behind a political exterior. Often not... but perhaps not so often...

John Baird was a good example, PM Stephen Harpers "pit bull" in parliament but actually a nice person "in real life".


In real life, Harper burned the Canadian Fisheries Libraries.

In my world-view, that makes him a monster beyond compare.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/11/20 07:10 PM

Funny story: The top GOP legislator in the New York State Assembly, Brian Kolb, writes a newspaper column in which he warned his readers about the dangers of drunk driving. So he drives his state-owned SUV into the ditch and gets popped with twice the legal limit of alcohol.

GOP Lawmaker DWI Case

His first response? He throws his wife under the bus by claiming she was driving! (He was.) Duncan Hunter did the same thing, blaming his wife for his campaign fund spending on ski trips with his bimbo. (Did she book the travel and hotel?) I wonder if this is a new trend for the GOP? Is Donald Trump going to try to pin all of his Obstruction of Justice on Melania?
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/11/20 07:37 PM

Men of honour, all of them...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/12/20 10:29 PM



I've added a few more "i's":

Trump 2020:
incompetent, indecisive, intolerant, insolent, impulsive and ineffective

smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/13/20 02:33 AM

By the way, with Bibi now indicted for corruption, I guess our warfighting anti-corruption prezzy will be withholding that four billion in aid to Israel, yes?

Or maybe that was just a convenient lie that only applies to Ukraine?
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/13/20 04:15 AM

I think he's as untouchable as Trump. Last I heard he had asked for immunity, was there some temporary problem with that?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/13/20 04:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
I think he's as untouchable as Trump. Last I heard he had asked for immunity, was there some temporary problem with that?


But he IS indicted nonetheless and our corruption fighting prezzy-dint needs to acknowledge that he's handing over billions to a corrupt leader.
After all, he has been adamant about Zelensky.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/13/20 08:50 PM

...please.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. Trump is impeached, do you hear Bibi calling him corrupt?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/14/20 06:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
...please.

That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. Trump is impeached, do you hear Bibi calling him corrupt?


It was kinda sarcastic and therefore rhetorical. Of course Trump won't call him corrupt and Bibi would never imply that Trump was corrupt either. Those terms are reserved for leaders who either don't grovel, or who appear weak to him, or those who don't have power he can't push back against without hurting his position.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/15/20 12:59 PM


jgw is getting A LOT of snow where he lives. He's been hit the last three days, plus 8" last night. gobsmacked

I only got 1-1/2" Monday night, and nothing last night. Work is getting hit too. Corp sent us home at 2:00pm yesterday. Near work, roads and freeway were muddy/slushy on the way home, but when I got back to my neck-of-the-woods, bone try. Hmm

We got back home at 3:15pm and it was nice to be home when the sun was still out, for a change. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/16/20 02:54 AM



A top Trump official floats the idea of getting rid of unwanted ethnic groups by putting them on trains - without crediting the people who originally had that idea.

Newsweek.com
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/16/20 08:41 AM

Just free upgraded my Windows 7 PC to Windows 10. I'm amazed how well everything is working. It seems to have remembered everything from my 7 settings. It did take about 3 hours, but what do you want for $0?
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/16/20 12:25 PM

Be ready for those no notice updates, especially when you are turning the computer off for the night. Should be another update around the 25th.

I like WIN10 Home, very stable.

Here are a few things you may want to do.
TechAdvisory.org

Welcome to Win10
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/16/20 03:32 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Just free upgraded my Windows 7 PC to Windows 10. I'm amazed how well everything is working. It seems to have remembered everything from my 7 settings. It did take about 3 hours, but what do you want for $0?


I managed to run my 8.1 workstation ("The Beast II") for the entire lifecycle of Win8 with zero issues and lo and behold, one week before the EOL for Win7, it just died on me, a motherboard failure.
Currently waiting for the builder to finish Beast III, and it will be Windows 10 as well.
Karen's machine is already upgraded, so are the machines owned by both kids, and our Surface of course came new with it preloaded.

I think it is well past time to retire the age-old sneering campaign against Microsoft PC's because although it took a while for them to get their act together, it's clear that their OS is more than capable now.

It's kind of a pity that my old processor, which is perfectly good, and my RAM, is sort of worthless now. It would be great to plant them on a decent used motherboard and run them into the ground for another few years.

Guess it's time to go search eBay or Craigslist!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 04:16 AM



Running a 2014 Air Mac OS Catalina v10.15.2 smile

Annual free OS upgrades every October. Best computer I have ever had. Bow
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 06:24 AM

I already had automatic patching turned on, so my computer would often decide to keep on running for a while after I shut it down for the night. It also would take a while to get finished updating every Wednesday morning. No big deal. I'm retired. Nothing urgent anymore.

I have had great luck with a pretty nice laptop I bought used after it came off a 2 year lease. It had an I5 processor and 4 GB of RAM, so I didn't need to upgrade it. From Day 1, I have kept it hooked to a 22 inch monitor and a mouse, so it works more like a desktop. I also bought one of those tiny little PCs for my wife when her desktop box crapped-out. It also has an I5 and came with Windows 10. Hard to believe a whole PC fits in a 4" by 4" by 1" box, but it does. Again, 22 inch monitor and mouse. In fact, you can bolt it on to the back of a monitor, if you like.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 07:22 AM

This is just sad:

Trying to Pray a Toddler Back to Life

Quote:
Christianity is a religion built on an account of a physical resurrection. But it is rare to see 21st-century American Christians praying for the dead to be raised in real time. Since last weekend, however, a prominent megachurch in Northern California has been calling on its members and followers to “pray for a miracle of resurrection” for a 2-year-old girl who died last weekend.


There is some speculation about exactly why she died. Her church and parents subscribe to some pretty extreme forms of child discipline. Some comments on the story by locals claim the church and their beliefs are very extreme. Duh!
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 02:30 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I already had automatic patching turned on, so my computer would often decide to keep on running for a while after I shut it down for the night. It also would take a while to get finished updating every Wednesday morning. No big deal. I'm retired. Nothing urgent anymore.

I have had great luck with a pretty nice laptop I bought used after it came off a 2 year lease. It had an I5 processor and 4 GB of RAM, so I didn't need to upgrade it. From Day 1, I have kept it hooked to a 22 inch monitor and a mouse, so it works more like a desktop. I also bought one of those tiny little PCs for my wife when her desktop box crapped-out. It also has an I5 and came with Windows 10. Hard to believe a whole PC fits in a 4" by 4" by 1" box, but it does. Again, 22 inch monitor and mouse. In fact, you can bolt it on to the back of a monitor, if you like.


Isn't that funny...my daughter's ancient HP laptop that I am using right now DID HAVE a working screen last time I took it on the road but when my W-S died I turned on this lappy and no screen. No problem, HDMI out on this lil booger, straight to one of my big monitors, so I too am using it as if it was a desktop, a very underpowered dual core Win7 desktop.

But my new "Beast III" should be ready today.
It's going to be quite a bit of work getting all the old programs reinstalled again and all the hard drives connected up and installed, but I am looking forward to it.
Also, I don't want to be "potentially unprotected" in Win7 any longer than necessary.
I guess I COULD take an unused Win8.1/64 disc and install it on this clunker but do I really want to revive an ancient lappy with a dead screen? Hmmm, maybe for emergencies.

But if it's eight years till the next "emergency", will this old thing even know how to handle the internet of the future?

Maybe one of those tiny mini-machines would be in order.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 04:06 PM

In other news, France24 is reporting that Medvedev is resigning.

Duma to review Putin PM appointee Mishustin on heels of Medvedev's resignation


And much of the Russian government is now heading for the exits.

Russian government resigns as Vladimir Putin plans future
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 08:37 PM

Quote:
But if it's eight years till the next "emergency"...


If you leave it unconnected to the internet, it will probably be fine for emergency email and internet surfing eight years from now even with Windows 7. I just don't want to run Windows 7 actively with no security fixes at all on a daily basis. I just wouldn't store any passwords on it or try to run TurboTax!

In fact, TurboTax is my main reason for getting up off my butt and doing it right now: I downloaded the latest version, but it balks at a Windows 7 installation. You can force it, but it recommends waiting for the Windows 10 upgrade.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/17/20 10:31 PM

It appears that I will be getting the build finished and returned to me on the 21st, so I am still stuck with this old lappie for another few days.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/18/20 03:24 PM



I was amazed when Fatso called himself a "son of a bytch." The novelty of him telling the truth was surprising.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 12:17 AM




Nancy Pelosi on Real Time 01-17-20:

Quote:
Donald Trump will FOREVER be impeached.


smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 12:40 AM



Nancy Pelosi 01-17-20:

Quote:
The Dem message to defeat Donald Trump is common ground and mainstream ideas.


smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 03:47 AM

I have had the crud for 4 days now.

This particular one is bad
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 04:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I have had the crud for 4 days now.

This particular one is bad


What? Are you feeling ill?
Posted by: SimonSC

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 04:57 PM

Some days I think we really do get better news coverage up here in Canada. I haven't seen this one in the U.S. news outlets for some reason. wink

Bible on which U.S. senators swear impartiality for Trump’s impeachment trial bursts into flames

Hope you're all well dug in (or at least getting dug out) for the next few weeks.
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: SimonSC

Bible on which U.S. senators swear impartiality for Trump’s impeachment trial bursts into flames

Hope you're all well dug in (or at least getting dug out) for the next few weeks.


Good chuckle, bible burst into flames. Another reason for President Donald (...) Trump* can use to not testify.

*Impeached

Not really that much snow, only about 7 inches, but wet, step on it and slip glaore.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 05:52 PM

It's no surprise, when I try to do a reading on Trump's second term my Tarot cards begin to smolder, the bones try to re-assemble themselves and run away when I throw them, the scrying glass shows only what appears to be an enormous landfill covered with scurrying rats.

Evangelical prayers have been re-routed to The Great Adversary via Donald Trump and the end is nigh...
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/19/20 05:57 PM

Quote:
Not really that much snow...

None here yet, but they say we may get sweater weather for a couple days.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/20/20 01:43 PM

Here’s a strange bit of news. Tucker Carlson has just done a whopping mad rant against the EPA and Atrazine and the righties are all incensed over how we are being poisoned. Even that crazed actor Alex Jones is foaming at the mouth over it.

Yet there is no awareness at all that the Trump administration is responsible for the EPA turning away from environmental protection to the dismantling of regulations as desired by the chemical industries.

Will there be a cataclysmic event when the factual matter and antimatter collide?

Nah... they’ll find a way to excuse Jesus Trump.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/20/20 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I have had the crud for 4 days now.

This particular one is bad


What? Are you feeling ill?


Stupid chest cold that turns into bronchitis if you look at it funny. I'm back at work now, but 4 people out of my team are now out sick.

You tell people "if you're sick, don't bring your plague in, you won't be punished for taking the time off," and nobody believes you. Then we all get the damn thing.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/20/20 03:32 PM

Also, Jeffrey, I put you on blast on the other board (down in the penalty box) for cheap laughs. Check it out.
Posted by: SimonSC

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/20/20 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
You tell people "if you're sick, don't bring your plague in, you won't be punished for taking the time off," and nobody believes you. Then we all get the damn thing.
Ugh... it's a real pet peeve of mine...

From the Harvard Business Review, 2004:
Quote:
The two Journal of the American Medical Association studies, for example, found that the on-the-job productivity loss resulting from depression and pain was roughly three times greater than the absence-related productivity loss attributed to these conditions. That is, less time was actually lost from people staying home than from them showing up but not performing at the top of their game.

Although the Japanese take this to its feasible extreme...
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/20/20 08:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Also, Jeffrey, I put you on blast on the other board (down in the penalty box) for cheap laughs. Check it out.


You're a stinker ROTFMOL
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 12:58 AM




Frontline is out with a two-part series (4 hrs) called America Divided

It starts off in 2008 with the election of Barack Obama and goes through the racist TBagger movement as a reaction to America's first black President, and continues through the impeachment of Donald J. Trump.

Trump figures prominently in this series on division which does not make Donald Trump look at all favorable.

To sum up Donald Trump in the eyes of the producers of this Frontline documentary: Donald Trump is a fcking a--hole. smile

==============

FUN FACT: More people attended the Women's March on January 21, 2017, than attended Donald J Trump's inaugural the day before. smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Also, Jeffrey, I put you on blast on the other board (down in the penalty box) for cheap laughs. Check it out.


You're a stinker ROTFMOL


I gotta be me.

In absolutely unrelated news, my job does occasionally deliver on it's promises, and ungrateful grad student and myself have been asked to deliver a difficult technical solution in a manner that hasn't every actually been done before.

This makes me so happy I can almost forgive horrible worthless grad student for being young.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 04:52 AM

Quote:
I can almost forgive horrible worthless grad student for being young.

Don't do it! Youth is wasted on the young. They don't appreciate it.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 01:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
In absolutely unrelated news, my job does occasionally deliver on it's promises, and ungrateful grad student and myself have been asked to deliver a difficult technical solution in a manner that hasn't every actually been done before.

Okay, I’m hooked... reel me in. Spill the beans. Close the deal. Assuage my burning curiosity. Give it to me straight.

Greta doesn’t toy with my emotions thisaway! cry
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 03:08 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
In absolutely unrelated news, my job does occasionally deliver on it's promises, and ungrateful grad student and myself have been asked to deliver a difficult technical solution in a manner that hasn't every actually been done before.

Okay, I’m hooked... reel me in. Spill the beans. Close the deal. Assuage my burning curiosity. Give it to me straight.

Greta doesn’t toy with my emotions thisaway! cry


I have to control temperature without using PID/SSRs or moving parts local to the heater element. In short, I can't use a timer of any kind in the actual circuit.

And I have to have a deadband of 2C. Again, without any kind of timer-type controller.

I have an elegant solution, but in practice it is not as pretty and elegant as it is on a whiteboard.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
In absolutely unrelated news, my job does occasionally deliver on it's promises, and ungrateful grad student and myself have been asked to deliver a difficult technical solution in a manner that hasn't every actually been done before.

Okay, I’m hooked... reel me in. Spill the beans. Close the deal. Assuage my burning curiosity. Give it to me straight.

Greta doesn’t toy with my emotions thisaway! cry


I have to control temperature without using PID/SSRs or moving parts local to the heater element. In short, I can't use a timer of any kind in the actual circuit.

And I have to have a deadband of 2C. Again, without any kind of timer-type controller.

I have an elegant solution, but in practice it is not as pretty and elegant as it is on a whiteboard.


Definitely Loggy territory.
You two are a couple of geeks. The world is better with geeks in it.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 05:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I have to control temperature without using PID/SSRs or moving parts local to the heater element. In short, I can't use a timer of any kind in the actual circuit.

And I have to have a deadband of 2C. Again, without any kind of timer-type controller.

Not to brag, or anything, but I barely have any idea what you are talking about.

Coincidentally, or perhaps the Fates have something to do with it, I spent four hours yesterday watching tutorials on the theory and operation of programmable logic controls. You see, I too am having challenges with controls, though mine are more in the shade of trying to control the guy who is supposed to be designing the control system. I haven't found a tutorial for that, yet.

Ergo, I am newly lingually woke to the likes of PID, CPU, PLC, cards, I/O, solid state relays, LED switches, ladder diagrams, scans, ... woke, but not necessary conversant. Si? Bueno!

How many milliwatts would have to be coursing through my personal grey matter based computer to understand your elegant solution?

Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 05:13 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I have to control temperature without using PID/SSRs or moving parts local to the heater element. In short, I can't use a timer of any kind in the actual circuit.

And I have to have a deadband of 2C. Again, without any kind of timer-type controller.

Not to brag, or anything, but I barely have any idea what you are talking about.

Coincidentally, or perhaps the Fates have something to do with it, I spent four hours yesterday watching tutorials on the theory and operation of programmable logic controls. You see, I too am having challenges with controls, though mine are more in the shade of trying to control the guy who is supposed to be designing the control system. I haven't found a tutorial for that, yet.

Ergo, I am newly lingually woke to the likes of PID, CPU, PLC, cards, I/O, solid state relays, LED switches, ladder diagrams, scans, ... woke, but not necessary conversant. Si? Bueno!

How many milliwatts would have to be coursing through my personal grey matter based computer to understand your elegant solution?



I was fortunate enough to get it on PLCs when they were brand spanking new, and have more or less been forced to stay current.

And you program controls, but you can't control programmers. You feed them coffee or Jolt Cola, toss some ramen at them when they show signs of visible distress, and let them do their thing.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
And you program controls, but you can't control programmers. You feed them coffee or Jolt Cola, toss some ramen at them when they show signs of visible distress, and let them do their thing.

Any hints as to where his "on" switch might be located?
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
And you program controls, but you can't control programmers. You feed them coffee or Jolt Cola, toss some ramen at them when they show signs of visible distress, and let them do their thing.

Any hints as to where his "on" switch might be located?


If you present him with a challenge and he races off with it into the sunset, you have a programmer.

If you present him with a challenge and he does nothing, you at best have a coder, which isn't the same thing, and he/she should be replaced.

It is important to always give programmers deadlines, and then occasionally mean mug and make ominous non-verbal noises from time to time. Understand that this deadline will have no bearing on the project (it will be done far ahead or far behind schedule), it's just part of the magic.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 05:47 PM

Good enough advice.

Unfortunately my guy is an entrepreneur with too many irons in the fire, and he is also a good friend.

I fear he fears me less that his other clients... I think I finally lit a fire under him yesterday by saying it has to get done this week, so I am preparing to do it myself (hence the four hour foray into Tutorial World). That presented a triple whammy of: 1) losing face; 2) losing a probable stake in the company; 3) concern that I would hurt my brain; and 3) worry that I'd make a screwed up mess and blame him for it.

We shall see...
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Good enough advice.

Unfortunately my guy is an entrepreneur with too many irons in the fire, and he is also a good friend.

I fear he fears me less that his other clients... I think I finally lit a fire under him yesterday by saying it has to get done this week, so I am preparing to do it myself (hence the four hour foray into Tutorial World). That was a triple whammy of: 1) losing face; 2) losing a probable stake in the company; 3) concern that I would hurt my brain; and 3) worry that I'd make a screwed up mess and blame him for it.

We shall see...


This is why I never do business with friends. It never ends well.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 07:03 PM

I think we lured another new member this morning, and he's probably looking the place over right now.

Please welcome "roughdraft274" to the Rant.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
I think we lured another new member this morning, and he's probably looking the place over right now.

Please welcome "roughdraft274" to the Rant.


Welcome aboard, RD. Mind the gap.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I have an elegant solution, but in practice it is not as pretty and elegant as it is on a whiteboard.
My sons absolutely love the elegant solutions. My elder son does not understand the concept of the perfect being the enemy of the good.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 07:41 PM

Welcome, roughdraft! Jump in anywhere, if you don't see an argument you'd like to get into, feel free to start one of your own. There's always someone here who is willing to argue about just about anything.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 07:44 PM

Welcome to roughage, erm, ah drafty, um, roughdraft! Welcome aboard and mind the... oh, already mentioned.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 07:49 PM

RD, if you have any questions about who you can trust around here, just PM me...
dunce
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I have an elegant solution, but in practice it is not as pretty and elegant as it is on a whiteboard.
My sons absolutely love the elegant solutions. My elder son does not understand the concept of the perfect being the enemy of the good.


This is more "it works, but it will take far more effort than expected, even if you take this statement into account."

Elegant != Easy.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 09:06 PM

As an embedded system programmer since the invention of embedded systems, I have often found the elegant solution involved 10% epiphany and 90% Occam's Razor. This is why I refused to use even C++ instead of C for systems without multiple instances of objects, much less any of the higher level languages with somebody else's ideas of what is useful. This made me obsolete (although right!).
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 09:21 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
As an embedded system programmer since the invention of embedded systems, I have often found the elegant solution involved 10% epiphany and 90% Occam's Razor. This is why I refused to use even C++ instead of C for systems without multiple instances of objects, much less any of the higher level languages with somebody else's ideas of what is useful. This made me obsolete (although right!).


Being right contributes to gross margin.

Being trendy contributes to APPEARING to contribute to gross margin.

You see your problem, here.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/21/20 11:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: logtroll
Good enough advice.
Unfortunately my guy is an entrepreneur with too many irons in the fire, and he is also a good friend.
I fear he fears me less that his other clients... I think I finally lit a fire under him yesterday by saying it has to get done this week, so I am preparing to do it myself (hence the four hour foray into Tutorial World). That was a triple whammy of: 1) losing face; 2) losing a probable stake in the company; 3) concern that I would hurt my brain; and 3) worry that I'd make a screwed up mess and blame him for it.
We shall see...

This is why I never do business with friends. It never ends well.

I beg to differ, the diagram below was just delivered by the express delivery guy for my review and approval (he also does pizzas):

Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 02:03 PM

This thing of mine has been grabbed and sent to the patent attorney.


So I scored a patent. smile

It belongs to the company, of course, but my name is on it and a bonus is involved.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 02:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
This thing of mine has been grabbed and sent to the patent attorney.

So I scored a patent. smile

It belongs to the company, of course, but my name is on it and a bonus is involved.

ThumbsUp Drinks are on the House!
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 03:13 PM

Drinks on the House
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 04:17 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll


Maybe the Rant needs a virtual bar. wink
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: logtroll


Maybe the Rant needs a virtual bar. wink


I thought that's what this thread was.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 05:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: logtroll


Maybe the Rant needs a virtual bar. wink


I thought that's what this thread was.


Yeah it is, sort of...I think most everyone treats it as such.
I was wondering if we need a place for virtual bar brawls. LOL
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 05:35 PM

,

The Rant IS a virtual bar.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: logtroll


Maybe the Rant needs a virtual bar. wink


I thought that's what this thread was.


Yeah it is, sort of...I think most everyone treats it as such.
I was wondering if we need a place for virtual bar brawls. LOL


DP has that, and they get progressively more toxic on the entire board.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 06:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl


DP has that, and they get progressively more toxic on the entire board.


True that, and besides, I am not at all sure it's even possible to create a segregated section with this software.
There's no "middle level" category that elevates posting privileges without making everyone a "moderator" so as far as I know, moderator forums are the only effectively segregated forums possible.

So, maybe it's good that we do not have a "Basement".

UBB keeps saying they're working on how to enable post "LIKES"
...but they've been saying that for four years.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 07:02 PM

Rule here is that brawls are private, not public.

You take it outside.

We supply a private messaging service for that.

If like a post, say so.

It takes 4 clicks to post a smiley face. Is that really too much to ask?
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/22/20 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger

It takes 4 clicks to post a smiley face. Is that really too much to ask?


mad


laugh
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/24/20 03:19 AM


Val Demings (D-FL) kicked Republican Senate ass tonight. Bow
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/24/20 03:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: logtroll


Maybe the Rant needs a virtual bar. wink


I thought that's what this thread was.

It is. smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/24/20 02:24 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Val Demings (D-FL) kicked Republican Senate ass tonight. Bow


Nice to hear, but it's not going to change the outcome.

The only thing the dems have to gain here is to make McConnell and a few others say the quiet parts out loud.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/24/20 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
The only thing the dems have to gain here is to make McConnell and a few others say the quiet parts out loud.

You mean like, "We have the information, and they don't." ?
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/24/20 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
The only thing the dems have to gain here is to make McConnell and a few others say the quiet parts out loud.

You mean like, "We have the information, and they don't." ?


I mean, "there is nothing we won't do and welcome to the new feudalism."
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/26/20 05:16 PM

A little bit of Win 10 Info for us Old Folks.

In the latest update for Win10 a few changes were made allowing the user to adjust cursor size and color. Find it under "Settings, Ease of Access, Cursor & pointer". Also, by clicking on box 2, 3 and 4 of "Change pointer color" you can set the cursor color to a tri-colour cursor; a high contrast cursor on a black or white background and the color you select (box 4) on a coloured background.

Hope this is of help, it sure is for me.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/26/20 07:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
A little bit of Win 10 Info for us Old Folks.

In the latest update for Win10 a few changes were made allowing the user to adjust cursor size and color. Find it under "Settings, Ease of Access, Cursor & pointer". Also, by clicking on box 2, 3 and 4 of "Change pointer color" you can set the cursor color to a tri-colour cursor; a high contrast cursor on a black or white background and the color you select (box 4) on a coloured background.

Hope this is of help, it sure is for me.


I am absolutely LOVING the new Win10 on both my machines, "Little Beast" and "Beast III"....except for one little idiosyncracy I wasn't aware of...GRRRRRRR!!!! mad

Apparently it is either impossible or next to impossible to get two Win10 HOME machines to talk to each other because of the added security.

Tried HOMEGROUP, and yes, it is there, and yes it lets you see YOUR machine but good luck trying to see its neighbors.
Mind you, I've been networking machines for eons.
This is a "Cat trusts dog but dog does not trust cat" issue.

I have the Win passwords for both boxes but it doesn't matter, Windows Security doesn't care. It lets you type the pwd in but it refuses to recognize it anyway.

Apparently I am going to have to upgrade to Win10 Pro, it seems.
I've been told that networking is a breeze on Win10 Pro.

But it may be a moot point for the time being anyway because Karen's machine is beginning to show its age and might have to be rebuilt now, so Little Beast might be Karen's temporary machine until I can save the $$$ to redo hers.

Other than that, it's fast, capable, secure, totally logical, and not the least bit buggy. Microsnot has hit it out of the park with 10 in my humble opinion.

Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/26/20 08:47 PM

Are you just now leaving Windows 7? It's almost cartoonish when compared to the oh so professional demeanor of Windows 10.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/26/20 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Mind you, I've been networking machines for eons.
This is a "Cat trusts dog but dog does not trust cat" issue.

What if you were to try to network through your router? How do big companies with multiple machines get each to talk to each other? Try their approach. smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Are you just now leaving Windows 7? It's almost cartoonish when compared to the oh so professional demeanor of Windows 10.



My big workstation was Windows 8.1 and I saw no reason to fix something that weren't broke.
My other machine was Win7.
Son, daughter and then finally Karen migrated to 10, with Karen just about two months ago.
So I am not unfamiliar with it, just lazy.
We're Win10 top to bottom now.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 02:36 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Mind you, I've been networking machines for eons.
This is a "Cat trusts dog but dog does not trust cat" issue.

What if you were to try to network through your router? How do big companies with multiple machines get each to talk to each other? Try their approach. smile


So far no joy...yes the router, that's what I am talking about.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 03:26 AM

I switched as soon as I could. First time bricked the machine and I had to haul it in for repairs. One other time since then an update slabbed it. I know how to drive one of these things but I'm no mechanic, y'know?
It was a fancy gaming machine back in the day, shite tons of RAM and enhanced graphics so I've always kept it updated and upgraded. It got a new motherboard a while back due to a lightning strike and the mechanic said the hard drive was showing a little wear but not looking too bad.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 04:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
I switched as soon as I could.


I never do that, not ever.
Rule of Thumb for Windows OS's: Always wait for the first or second service pack before migrating to the new OS.

Every Windows OS in history has fell on its face until the first couple of service packs get issued.
By the way, Apple updates often break installed software as well, so it's not entirely exclusive to Windows.

I used to hear screams of agony from Mac based editors all day long back when I worked at Complete Post.
I was one of the guys who worked AVID on a Windows system...everyone else was Apple Final Cut Pro, which I have always hated.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 02:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger
I switched as soon as I could.


I never do that, not ever.
Rule of Thumb for Windows OS's: Always wait for the first or second service pack before migrating to the new OS.

Every Windows OS in history has fell on its face until the first couple of service packs get issued.
By the way, Apple updates often break installed software as well, so it's not entirely exclusive to Windows.

I used to hear screams of agony from Mac based editors all day long back when I worked at Complete Post.
I was one of the guys who worked AVID on a Windows system...everyone else was Apple Final Cut Pro, which I have always hated.


Windows 10 intentionally broke software, and when my laptop dies, I will not be replacing it with a windows machine.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 03:34 PM

While I hope to die before this machine needs to be replaced I will unfortnately probably live longer thn it does. When it goes, the cheapest piece of Hewlet Pckard crap I can lay my hands on will suffice to deliver the news, porn, and communication I use this machine for.

As long as runs reliably, which Microsoft's OS seems to most of the time, I will in the immortal words of GW Bush..."Stay the course."

I'm not proud or choosy.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 04:42 PM

Quote:
I never do that, not ever.


Some are on the cutting edge...some use outdated software until it crumbles into dust.

Politics is sometimes like that too.

Some cling to the old and outdated and some look to the future and are willing able and ready to change.

Maybe some bugs will need to be worked out as we go along.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 09:37 PM

One thing that even Windows 7 "broke" is requiring Microsoft-signed drivers. It was a security thing to prevent rootkits. So some older hardware and software would not run on Win 7 (or 8 or 10). But you can actually turn on "test mode" and it relaxes that requirement, in all versions.

The only problem I have now is that Chrome and Firefox browsers are not well-behaved with Netflix. They stall about every 10 minutes when they drop a frame and don't recover with out a reload. But Win 10 Edge does work correctly with Netflix. Never stalls.

I was amazed how well my Win 10 upgrade from 7 worked. It really did not have a single hitch. Just took several hours and reboots, even with a 40 MBPS internet connection.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/27/20 10:14 PM

It gets lonely having a Mac. It's like being a youngster at a dinner party of seniors and not having any medical conditions to brag talk about.
Posted by: BC

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
It gets lonely having a Mac. It's like being a youngster at a dinner party of seniors and not having any medical conditions to brag talk about.


Love mine, though it took a lot of convincing by a lady who worked for me. Does everything I want, and the Logic Pro X music suite is fabulous.

Also bought a Lenova laptop to replace an elderly HP desktop, but it leads the lonely life collecting dust on a desk rather than a lap. May as well be a big backup drive.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 02:49 AM



My 2019 tax refund deposited today. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 02:50 AM

Originally Posted By: BC
Originally Posted By: logtroll
It gets lonely having a Mac. It's like being a youngster at a dinner party of seniors and not having any medical conditions to brag talk about.


Love mine...

Me too. I used to get a virus once a year when I had a Win machine - even though I had the anti-virus software.

I've had a Mac since September 2014, still the same machine, and never once had a virus. Bow
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 03:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger
I switched as soon as I could.


I never do that, not ever.
Rule of Thumb for Windows OS's: Always wait for the first or second service pack before migrating to the new OS.

Every Windows OS in history has fell on its face until the first couple of service packs get issued.
By the way, Apple updates often break installed software as well, so it's not entirely exclusive to Windows.

I used to hear screams of agony from Mac based editors all day long back when I worked at Complete Post.
I was one of the guys who worked AVID on a Windows system...everyone else was Apple Final Cut Pro, which I have always hated.


Windows 10 intentionally broke software, and when my laptop dies, I will not be replacing it with a windows machine.


Which software?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 04:37 AM


Q: What's the difference between Alan Dershowitz's client Jeffrey Epstein and Alan Dershowitz's client Donald Trump?

A: One of them is dead, other than that, not much.

shocked . coffee
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger
I switched as soon as I could.


I never do that, not ever.
Rule of Thumb for Windows OS's: Always wait for the first or second service pack before migrating to the new OS.

Every Windows OS in history has fell on its face until the first couple of service packs get issued.
By the way, Apple updates often break installed software as well, so it's not entirely exclusive to Windows.

I used to hear screams of agony from Mac based editors all day long back when I worked at Complete Post.
I was one of the guys who worked AVID on a Windows system...everyone else was Apple Final Cut Pro, which I have always hated.


Windows 10 intentionally broke software, and when my laptop dies, I will not be replacing it with a windows machine.


Which software?


Paintshop Pro V is the first one that comes to mind.

"Not supported".
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 08:52 PM

I think Adobe Flash might be nothing but trash.

In some cases Windows Security turns off your third party virus apps.

There's another one on the tip of my tongue...
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 11:16 PM

I got an original Dos 3 PC way back when, and I don't think I've ever got a virus yet. I am careful where I go on the internet, and what I do with stranger's emails. I have been running McAffee for a very long time, and I always turn on security updates.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/28/20 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl


Paintshop Pro V is the first one that comes to mind.

"Not supported".


If I remember correctly support for PSP Pro ended with either 7 or 8.1 and that's only because the PSP folks didn't want to update the drivers. That isn't "breaking" software, it's "end of life" and you could try running it in "compatibility mode".
I make a fair amount of stuff work by using Compatibility Mode all the way from Win8 all the way down to XP emulation.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/29/20 03:07 AM


Bolton: Trump engaged in an extortion scheme.
Conservatives: Bolton is Liberal scum.

Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/29/20 10:29 PM

It is probably the unsigned driver problem. Just look up "turn on test mode" and windows 7, 8, or 10. It's easy as pie. I don't even have emulation mode on to run some of my older software.

Funny about Bolton: Conservatives LOVED Bolton, right up until the point he said Trump did something illegal. Now he's Liberal Scum? No he's still an avid hawk on every enemy of America. It's the Republicans who have decided to join Trump in kissing the ass of every disgusting despot in the world.

You know the difference between a brown-noser and a shitehead, right?

Depth perception.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/29/20 11:39 PM

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/30/20 02:04 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
ou know the difference between a brown-noser and a shitehead, right?

Depth perception.


LOL

I asked a Conservative what is the difference between an oral and rectal thermometer.

He said that rectal thermometers taste funny.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/30/20 02:46 AM


Fatass Trump's wall blew over in the wind and fell into Mexico. LOL ROTFMOL LOL

Scramento Bee

smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/30/20 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Fatass Trump's wall blew over in the wind and fell into Mexico. LOL ROTFMOL LOL

Scramento Bee

smile


Does Mexico get to keep it?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/30/20 11:39 PM

Highest wind recorded in the area was just 37 MPH! What kind of lousy wall are they building? And it was actually one of those segments with steel bars up to the top, so there were big gaps for the wind to go through. Trumps "big beautiful wall" is a piece of crap.

Any civil engineer would tell you you have to support something tall anchored in concrete until it cures, which can take a couple of months. But that would have required support beams on the Mexican side, or moving the wall back from the border enough to leave room for the beams.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 03:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Fatass Trump's wall blew over in the wind and fell into Mexico. LOL ROTFMOL LOL

Scramento Bee

smile


Does Mexico get to keep it?

Why not? Hmm They paid for it. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 03:11 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
...Trumps "big beautiful wall" is a piece of crap...

Incompetent Trump can't do anything right. smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Highest wind recorded in the area was just 37 MPH! What kind of lousy wall are they building? And it was actually one of those segments with steel bars up to the top, so there were big gaps for the wind to go through. Trumps "big beautiful wall" is a piece of crap.

Any civil engineer would tell you you have to support something tall anchored in concrete until it cures, which can take a couple of months. But that would have required support beams on the Mexican side, or moving the wall back from the border enough to leave room for the beams.


Out here, the coliche will hold this crap rock steady...

...Until the first time it rains.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 04:23 PM

Surprisingly, that is the first time I've heard the English version of the song. It's one of my favorites of all time, but I don't speak Portuguese.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 04:49 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Surprisingly, that is the first time I've heard the English version of the song. It's one of my favorites of all time, but I don't speak Portuguese.

Sadly for me, Mad Magazine did a parody of the song back in the 70's, and their lyrics are still mostly dominant in my head when I hear the music...

"Short and fat and bald and ugly,
The guy from Jersey City goes walking..."
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 08:42 PM

Astrud is a World Treasure. I think the Portuguese version is better just in terms of her voice. Did anybody know she is half German? Her maiden name was Weinert.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 08:48 PM

Quote:
Out here, the coliche will hold this crap rock steady...

...Until the first time it rains.


We have a whole ranch like that. Hard as rock until the first good rain. Then my wife goes out and digs whatever she has been planning during the dry season. She has a water jet on the end of section of PVC pipe. You can hook that to the hose and dig anything. Works a LOT better than a post hole digger for chain link fence post holes. I dug eight of them in about 20 minutes with zero effort or blisters.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 01/31/20 11:59 PM

coliche

Google isn't helping much on this....is it something like clay?
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 12:41 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
coliche

Google isn't helping much on this....is it something like clay?

Try caliche.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 12:53 AM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Surprisingly, that is the first time I've heard the English version of the song. It's one of my favorites of all time, but I don't speak Portuguese.

Sadly for me, Mad Magazine did a parody of the song back in the 70's, and their lyrics are still mostly dominant in my head when I hear the music...

"Short and fat and bald and ugly,
The guy from Jersey City is loaded..."

Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 02:52 AM

Quote:
Try caliche.

Interesting. My world is made of sand. I was grown up before I saw a rock.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 03:11 AM

Uncle Ellis explains about digging graves in West Texas.

YouTube - - 3:25

"Seven or eight of em come up thar, wantin this and wantin that.
Uncle Mack went back in the house to git the shotgun...and well, they wuz ahead of him...shot him in his doorway.

Aunt Ella come up, tried to stop the bleeding, Uncle Mack all the while tryin to git that shotgun. They just set there on their horses, watchin him die.

After a while one of em said somethin in Indian...and they left out.
Uncle Mack knew the score even if Aunt Ella didn't, shot through the left lung. And that was that, as they say."

"When did he die?"

"Nineteen zero and nine."

"Did he die away in the night?"

"I believe he died that night, and she buried him the next mornin, diggin in that hard old caliche."
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 03:28 AM

The salient feature is that it is rock-hard unless it gets saturated with water: Then it's as easy to dig as damp sand. That's why it isn't used unmodified as road bed base, or to hold up tall rigid structures like 30 foot tall steel and concrete walls.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 04:07 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
The salient feature is that it is rock-hard unless it gets saturated with water: Then it's as easy to dig as damp sand. That's why it isn't used unmodified as road bed base, or to hold up tall rigid structures like 30 foot tall steel and concrete walls.


You sir, know about ten times more about the stuff than I ever did.
All I know is, when we got the house built in Mansfield "back in aught-six", the contractors told us to never let the dirt around the base of the house dry out too much in the summertime, elsewise the foundation slab might shift or crack.

Didn't matter...t'wouldn't-a mattered if we'd diverted the Brazos through our parlor. That dirt tried to ride away from the slab no matter whut. I don't know if it was caliche or not, though.
It was kinda red lookin'.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 05:25 AM



Can John Roberts declare a mistrial if there is no witnesses and documents? Hmm
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 01:45 PM

Unknown, and why would he? The Republican Cowards, led by Senator (Moscow) Mitch McConnell, would just vote to override him.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/01/20 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Unknown, and why would he? The Republican Cowards, led by Senator (Moscow) Mitch McConnell, would just vote to override him.

A jury can't override a judge. The judge has the final say.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 06:29 AM


Fatass Trump's Pee Tape found:



smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 07:17 AM


...after viewing the video above, Melanie Trump created a new hashtag: #PeeBest

coffee
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 07:51 AM

Meanwhile "da Dersh", who has been running around insisting he's really a liberal, had a little time in the barrel today, when this resurfaced.

Did Dershowitz Say He Was ‘Not Happy Seeing Nixon’s Gang Being Tried by Blacks and Liberals’?

Quote:
"I'm not happy seeing Richard Nixon's gang being tried by blacks and liberals in the District of Columbia."


Yeah, that is just dripping with heartfelt liberal goodness, ain't it?
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 11:28 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Unknown, and why would he? The Republican Cowards, led by Senator (Moscow) Mitch McConnell, would just vote to override him.

A jury can't override a judge. The judge has the final say.

smile


In an Impeachment, the Jury can, ... crazy
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 02:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Unknown, and why would he? The Republican Cowards, led by Senator (Moscow) Mitch McConnell, would just vote to override him.

A jury can't override a judge. The judge has the final say.

smile


In an Impeachment, the Jury can, ... crazy

Link please. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Meanwhile "da Dersh", who has been running around insisting he's really a liberal, had a little time in the barrel today, when this resurfaced.

Did Dershowitz Say He Was ‘Not Happy Seeing Nixon’s Gang Being Tried by Blacks and Liberals’?

Quote:
"I'm not happy seeing Richard Nixon's gang being tried by blacks and liberals in the District of Columbia."


Yeah, that is just dripping with heartfelt liberal goodness, ain't it?

Did Alan Douchebag say that while on the plane flying to Pedo Island?

coffee
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 05:04 PM

As crass and insensitive as this may sound..."drink on, my QAnon buddies."

QAnon Influencers Are Encouraging Their Followers to Drink Bleach to Stave Off Coronavirus

I thought, surely this HAS to be a satire story but apparently it's on the up and up, this is actually happening.

LOL ROTFMOL tinfoilhat
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 06:30 PM

In my comment, I said, "In an Impeachment, the Jury can, ..." I misspoke, referring to the Senators as Jurors. The Senators are not Jurors. Juries can not override the presiding official, but in the case of impeachment of the President, the Senate can.

This article explains it better than I can. Yes, the author of the referenced article is a Republican, leaning Libertarian.

Federalist 66 referenced in the above linked article.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/02/20 09:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
In my comment, I said, "In an Impeachment, the Jury can, ..." I misspoke, referring to the Senators as Jurors. The Senators are not Jurors. Juries can not override the presiding official, but in the case of impeachment of the President, the Senate can.

This article explains it better than I can. Yes, the author of the referenced article is a Republican, leaning Libertarian.

Federalist 66 referenced in the above linked article.

Sorry, I'm not buying what you're selling. The Senate's role is that of a jury during removal portion of a trial which is triggered after impeachment of the President. The Senate as jurors cannot overrule the SOCTUS Chief aka the Judge.

Impeachment and removal are two separate actions taken by two separate chambers of Congress.

smile
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/03/20 12:48 AM

Believe what you will and I am not trying to sell anything.

In an Impeachment Trial, the Senate acts as the rule makers, Jury, Judge, and Executioner so to speak.

The Chief Justice fills the role of President of the Senate, has no real power, is meant to break ties and fulfills other functions as given in the Senate Rules on Impeachment, a link is below. Any decision made by the Chief Justice can be voted down by the Senate.

Remember, the Constitution grants to the Senate the power to make their own rules, this includes Impeachment Trials.

Remember, Impeachment is not a criminal process but is a political process.

Some links

Legal Informatio Institue Cornell University

Government Printing Office - Chapter 27 Impeachment This is a PDF

United States Senate - Impeachment

Government Printing Office - Rules of Procedure and Practice in the Senate when sitting on Impeachment trials a PDF

OOPS, forgot this link

The Heritage Foundation - In Trump Trial, Can Chief Justice Roberts Call Witnesses Without Senate Approval?
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/03/20 03:35 AM

...In short...this isn't a real court, it's a kangaroo court.

amirite?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/03/20 03:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
...In short...this isn't a real court, it's a kangaroo court.

Republicans certainly have brought that fact into sharp focus. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/03/20 04:03 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Can John Roberts declare a mistrial if there is no witnesses and documents? Hmm

Lookie at what i found tonight. smile

Move for a mistrial’: Legal analyst says Adam Schiff must end Senate trial before GOP acquits

Quote:
NBC legal analyst Glenn Kirschner on Sunday addressed the possibility that Chief Justice John Roberts could declare a mistrial before Republicans in the Senate acquit President Donald Trump on impeachment charges on Wednesday.

Kirshner argued that House Impeachment Manager Adam Schiff could call for a mistrial even though such a move is not contemplated in Senate rules.

...

"Move for a mistrial and see what the Chief Justice says.”
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/03/20 05:05 AM


Dumbfck Trump congratulates the State of Kansas for their win at the Super Bowl. God damn that guy is a fcking moron.

Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/04/20 02:12 AM

Rush Limbaugh has late-stage lung cancer.

So hear's the joke I read: (concealed for the sensitive people)

Click to reveal..
So it turns out President Trump's semen doesn't have Magical Healing Powers after all.


Mods: Let me know if I should delete that.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/04/20 05:21 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Rush Limbaugh has late-stage lung cancer.

So hear's the joke I read: (concealed for the sensitive people)

Click to reveal..
So it turns out President Trump's semen doesn't have Magical Healing Powers after all.


Mods: Let me know if I should delete that.

In the age of Trump, there are no more rules. It's all good. smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/04/20 10:16 AM

Reporters in Britain understand what to do when faced by government hostility to the press:

Everybody walked out!

Quote:
Political reporters who cover government news at London’s No. 10 Downing St. boycotted an official briefing Monday after selected journalists were ordered to leave by an aide to Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

A statement from the opposition Labour Party said the move by Johnson’s team demonstrated that the “prime minister was resorting to tactics imported from Donald Trump to hide from scrutiny.”


They ask reporters from three newspapers they don't like to leave a press briefing. So every reporter walked out. Yep: That's the way you do it.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/04/20 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
They ask reporters from three newspapers they don't like to leave a press briefing. So every reporter walked out. Yep: That's the way you do it.

American news companies are too cowardly to do that. Hmm


ps. It was the Dominican Republic and it was boys, not girls. wink
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/04/20 10:05 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Rush Limbaugh has late-stage lung cancer.

So hear's the joke I read: (concealed for the sensitive people)

Click to reveal..
So it turns out President Trump's semen doesn't have Magical Healing Powers after all.


Mods: Let me know if I should delete that.

In the age of Trump, there are no more rules. It's all good. smile


The word semen is not in the censor list.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/04/20 10:07 PM

Meanwhile, in other news, an Arizona sex offender and Trump supporter
is now facing charges for threatening the life of Adam Schiff.

Quote:

“Meister responded that he watches Fox News and likely was upset at something that he saw on the news. He stated that he strongly dislikes the Democrats, and feels they are to blame for the country's political issues,” according to the police summary of the interview. “Meister stated that he likely Goggled [sic] the congressman’s office number to make the call.”


POLITICO
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/05/20 12:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
The word semen is not in the censor list.

Guzzler Melanie will be glad to know that. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/06/20 03:02 PM

“Do not seek death. Death will find you. But seek the road which makes death a fulfillment.”
- Dag Hammarskjöld
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/06/20 03:10 PM

People have started wearing dust masks to work here.

This seems more like another manifestation of 21st century hysteria than prevention.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 12:54 AM



Nate Silver says his models point to Bernie. I'm good with that. Are you Ranters good with that?

How about Klobuchar as VP? Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 02:31 AM

By November a ham sandwich should be able to beat Trump, so fine with me. I hope he picks a capable VP since they may very well finish Bernie's term.

And dust masks do nothing but keep you from breathing dust. Corona virus lives on surfaces for days and can infect you via your eyeball! If you want protection you need a plastic bunny suit, and you need to disinfect it before you take it off each day. I think by far the most common transmission route is by touching a surface contaminated with virus, and then touching your face.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 03:57 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Nate Silver says his models point to Bernie. I'm good with that. Are you Ranters good with that?

How about Klobuchar as VP? Hmm


I'm good with whoever gets the nom but my heart is with Bernie Sanders. No, I don't agree with everything he wants but it's okay because he won't GET everything he wants.
He will be lucky to get fifteen percent of what he wants if he has Dems in charge of both chambers in Congress...MAYBE 25 percent.

But my heart is with him because I like how he thinks, I like his consistent positions on issues, which are clearly LIFE-LONG, and I think that he has integrity.
So it's okay if I think one or two of his stances are nutso.
Just keep him surrounded with the best doctors, that's all.
I want that old man to "live long and prosper".

Yeah sure, I like Amy.
I said before, I think she's kind of like Officer Marge Gunderson from "Fargo" (the movie by the Coen Brothers) and Marge Gunderson has integrity just like Bernie, even though her positions are a little bit different.

I can't believe it didn't hit me that she's just "Minnesota Nice".
If you've ever lived in Minnesota, then you know that Minnesota Nice is a real thing. It's a wonderful thing.
America could use some Minnesota Nice after Trump.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 04:26 AM

We need more Hot Dish.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 02:58 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
By November a ham sandwich should be able to beat Trump, so fine with me. I hope he picks a capable VP since they may very well finish Bernie's term.

And dust masks do nothing but keep you from breathing dust. Corona virus lives on surfaces for days and can infect you via your eyeball! If you want protection you need a plastic bunny suit, and you need to disinfect it before you take it off each day. I think by far the most common transmission route is by touching a surface contaminated with virus, and then touching your face.


This is sheer hysteria.

There have been 2 cases in Arizona, a hundred miles from here, both came back from China infected, both were moved directly to isolation.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 02:59 PM

But it says something about the nature of our society at the moment.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 10:47 PM

The interesting thing will be to see what happens to the people who were on the plane with these 2 vectors. We will know that in about 10 days. Does not sound good in China. I noticed the doctor who first sounded the alarm died from it the other day. This may be the next Black Swan Event that crashes the world economy.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/07/20 11:16 PM

Meanwhile, in Washington, a decorated Air Force Colonel who was supposed to take charge of the base that houses Air Force One was sentenced to five years in prison for kiddie porn.

NEWSWEEK
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/08/20 04:16 PM



Fatass is so incompetent, he doesn't even use foundation correctly, and certainly doesn't know how to blend.

#DragQueen101



You match foundation to your skin tone, not your cheap alligator shoes, dumbass.

smile

#StupidHeteroTrash
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/08/20 06:01 PM



Pete Buttigieg Funded by Russian-Linked Oligarch Who Supports Trump and McConnell

#ShameOnPete

nono
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/08/20 10:51 PM


Fatass Tweeted the above piccy of him is "fake news."

Wigga please. Nobody believes your lies anymore. coffee
Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/08/20 11:15 PM

Wigga please. Nobody believes your lies anymore.

Au contrere mon frere. If that is the correct spelling.

Trumps fans not only believe everything that spews forth from his pie hole but if somehow it strikes the “not” button they simply don’t care. This is a cult of the first order and it shall not be broken.

At least by non cultists such as......you.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Ken Condon
Wigga please. Nobody believes your lies anymore.

Au contrere mon frere. If that is the correct spelling.

Trumps fans not only believe everything that spews forth from his pie hole but if somehow it strikes the “not” button they simply don’t care. This is a cult of the first order and it shall not be broken.

At least by non cultists such as......you.

The irony is that Trump sycophants say that Mitt Romney is in a cult. coffee
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 01:28 AM

Do you think it would be possible to fly Air Force One on a humanitarian mission to evacuate infected Americans from a Wuhan, and the Air Force, for the good of the country, to forget to disinfect the plane before Trump's next flight?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 02:03 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Do you think it would be possible to fly Air Force One on a humanitarian mission to evacuate infected Americans from a Wuhan, and the Air Force, for the good of the country, to forget to disinfect the plane before Trump's next flight?

Trump would have them picked-up in a C-130 - no frills flight. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 02:05 AM


Quote:
More Fake News. This was photoshopped, obviously, but the wind was strong and the hair looks good? Anything to demean!”
- Trump


So alpha male to discuss how your hair looks in the wind... coffee

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 04:43 AM

I'm sorry but this, and Sanders's complaints are BS. Anyone who thinks a $5000 donation is going to influence a $75 million campaign is smoking dope. Now, the $400,000 donation to the DCCC is a bit moe problematic.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 07:40 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
... Anyone who thinks a $5000 donation is going to influence a $75 million campaign is smoking dope...

If $5,000 is meh...give it back, then smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 05:44 PM

Pete is a moderate. He hasn't got the grass roots support or name recognition that some other candidates have and must resort to "traditional" funding.

But at the same time, I think Pete said that if he gets the nomination he will be the most progressive candidate ever to run for president.

I don't grudge him the wine cellar supporters or even the Russian oligarchs. We could do a lot worse than Pete.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
WTF was a 91 year old doing wandering the streets of LA? Sound to me like that place cray! At least he wasn't hit by a helicopter full of rich people in a hurry.

Mountain tops usually suffer in those later incidences. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 07:24 PM



RuPaul on SNL last night on teaching the kiddies how to "read."

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/09/20 07:53 PM

People keep asking me why I am not a fan of "The Purge" series on TV.
I'm just around the corner from sixty-three, but not yet at the point where daily talk of strong laxatives is part of my inner dialogue.
So now that you're busy laughing and thinking "Okay Boomer!", consider the fact that, for anyone over fifty-five, "The Purge" feels way too much like what the reality of life under "Trump Unhinged" is about to become.

For anyone over eighty, it HAS to feel like a certainty.
Anne Frank's stepsister agrees.

And, in other news, in a desperate quest for better ratings, Lou Dobbs has apparently taken complete control of the body of MSNBC's Chris Matthews.


Kombiz Lavasany on Twitter


Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/10/20 03:37 AM


Eminem just performed at the Oscars®. Back in the day, Em was a skinny peroxide blonde dude. Tonight, pushing 47, thicker, sporting a close-crop black beard, and a black baseball cap, black jacket, t-shirt and black jeans - he had a ghey behr vibe going on. I was liking it big time. I'm all...where you been hiding little cub?


laugh



Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/10/20 05:18 AM



I'm going out on a limb here and suggest that the character of "Joker" is based upon Trump sycophants, collectively

smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/11/20 06:15 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


I'm going out on a limb here and suggest that the character of "Joker" is based upon Trump sycophants, collectively

smile


I guess I better try to go see this. I assumed it was Batman related.
I think I've only seen two of the Batman movies and for me Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger were both great.

So this Joaquin Phoenix movie isn't "The Joker" from the Batman franchise?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/11/20 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: pdx rick


I'm going out on a limb here and suggest that the character of "Joker" is based upon Trump sycophants, collectively

smile


I guess I better try to go see this. I assumed it was Batman related.

The film is based on a DC Comics character. smile

I'm just saying that Trump sycophants are sociopathic clowns. smile
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/11/20 03:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
I think I've only seen two of the Batman movies and for me Jack Nicholson or Heath Ledger were both great.

So this Joaquin Phoenix movie isn't "The Joker" from the Batman franchise?
It's Jokers origin story... or a version of it.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/12/20 12:59 PM


On Sunday night, Fatso Trump finally won an Oscar® for most hilarious hair and make-up.

#OrangeClown

smile
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/12/20 05:05 PM

Maybe Trump's origin story?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/13/20 05:58 AM

A propos of nothing in particular, I learned today that the coronavirus originated in the same province of China as the Bubonic plague virus (Yersinia pestis) that started the Black Death in 1345. Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/13/20 10:18 PM



Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/14/20 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Maybe Trump's origin story?

Just watched it... you might be right. And the riots in support of Joker are just like the Trump cultists. Destroy everything because you feel oppressed.

Hoomans are a strange breed.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/15/20 01:23 AM

Yersinia is not a virus. It is a bacteria, and actually is susceptible to antibiotics.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/16/20 01:09 AM

I actually knew that, but misspoke and was too lazy to fix it.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/16/20 05:48 AM



Quote:
Donald Trump, a carnival barking clown who inherited a fortune & squandered it with stupid deals and incompetence.”
- Mike Bloomfield


smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/16/20 05:50 AM



i think that Trump is a short fingered vulgarian myself. coffee
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/16/20 09:03 PM

The interesting thing about yersinia, is that people who have a genetic resistance to yersinia, also have resistance to HIV. In some isolated small towns of England, a lot of the locals are descended from people who survived the Black Death.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/17/20 01:44 AM



So fat fck puts "The Beast" on the oval at Daytona today and has AF1 do a flyover to buzz the stadium. WTH? Hmm
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/17/20 05:17 PM


‘Congrats on an epic self-own’: Internet bursts into laughter as Ted Cruz freaks out over vasectomy bill

I don't know what forces in the Universe converged to make me sick as a dog, but I'm hoping those same forces were involved in taking Ted Cruz and the rest of the Clown Car down a few notches. LOL


Ted Cruz: "Yikes!"

Quote:
A government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take everything...literally!
Alabama Democrat proposes bill mandating all men have vasectomy at age 50 or after third child.


Melissa Ryan responds:

Quote:
Yes. Governments have no business controlling the reproductive systems of citizens. Glad you've finally come around on choice, Senator.

Also, congrats on an epic self-own.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/17/20 05:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

‘Congrats on an epic self-own’: Internet bursts into laughter as Ted Cruz freaks out over vasectomy bill

I don't know what forces in the Universe converged to make me sick as a dog, but I'm hoping those same forces were involved in taking Ted Cruz and the rest of the Clown Car down a few notches. LOL


Ted Cruz: "Yikes!"

Quote:
A government big enough to give you everything is big enough to take everything...literally!
Alabama Democrat proposes bill mandating all men have vasectomy at age 50 or after third child.


Melissa Ryan responds:

Quote:
Yes. Governments have no business controlling the reproductive systems of citizens. Glad you've finally come around on choice, Senator.

Also, congrats on an epic self-own.




There were a BUNCH of good responses on that.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/18/20 03:36 AM



Suck it, TrumpTARDs. smile

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/18/20 10:19 AM

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/18/20 09:46 PM

Political cartoon I saw today:

Quote:
Daddy, why does President Trump hate the FBI so much?

Simple son, it's because he works for the KGB.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 01:39 AM

Just a quick note, your humble chief cook and bottle washer is very ill and won't be here very much for the next few days.
This is the mutha of all respiratory infections.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 01:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Just a quick note, your humble chief cook and bottle washer is very ill and won't be here very much for the next few days.
This is the mutha of all respiratory infections.

You got the covid-19?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 09:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Just a quick note, your humble chief cook and bottle washer is very ill and won't be here very much for the next few days.
This is the mutha of all respiratory infections.

Get better Jeff. smile
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 12:01 PM

Here's something I received from Gallup this AM. I thought you all might find interesting.

"Polarization May Undermine Community Bonds, Trust in Others"

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/2...ign=syndication
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 02:58 PM

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Just a quick note, your humble chief cook and bottle washer is very ill and won't be here very much for the next few days.
This is the mutha of all respiratory infections.

Get better Jeff. smile


I dunno, it's something very evil, that's all I know.
I can barely manage to be up for more than about an hour and I feel like I am drowning...can't catch my breath.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/19/20 05:47 PM

Quote:
it's something very evil


Flu? Corona virus?

Have you had your Pneumonia shot?

I can list at least three ReaderRant administrators who did not survive the position. Another was nearly killed by a cow.

Go to the Emergency Clinic.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 02:55 AM

Don't screw around with that: Get in to see a doctor quickly. If your respiratory system fails you literally have a couple of minutes to live. Go to Urgent Care or ER. They may want to hospitalize you so they can administer Oxygen.

Keep an eye on your fingernails. If they start to turn blue you need a oximeter and Oxygen right now.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 04:09 AM


Do as Greger and P_I_A are directing you to do, Jeff. Please.

smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 06:42 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Do as Greger and P_I_A are directing you to do, Jeff. Please.

smile


Hey, my Pulse-Ox is at 90 or 91 right now.
I will probably be going in tomorrow.
I cannot just take off and go without making arrangements.
Karen now pretty much needs someone around all day.

Remember we have a heart patient here, Daryl.
We have an oximeter
So if I leave, I need to have someone there for her.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 07:53 AM

If you are at 90, you have no margin of safety. 92 is considered important for patients with respiratory diseases. Do you have some Oxygen and a mask for your son? You might want to consider using it while you sleep, just so you don't wake up dead tomorrow morning.
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 11:26 AM

Go to the Hospital!

You may have pneumonia. One of the major killers of old folks.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 01:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Do as Greger and P_I_A are directing you to do, Jeff. Please.

smile


Hey, my Pulse-Ox is at 90 or 91 right now.
I will probably be going in tomorrow.
I cannot just take off and go without making arrangements.
Karen now pretty much needs someone around all day.

Remember we have a heart patient here, Daryl.
We have an oximeter
So if I leave, I need to have someone there for her.

Who is going to take care of your family if you pull a Reader Rant Administrator. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 01:17 PM



Lizzy Warren took an axe,
...and gave Mikey Bloomberg forty wacks. gobsmacked

Guess we won't be saying "President Bloomberg" any time soon. smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 02:41 PM

Yeah, that was a brutal ass-kicking.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 04:19 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Do as Greger and P_I_A are directing you to do, Jeff. Please.

smile


Hey, my Pulse-Ox is at 90 or 91 right now.
I will probably be going in tomorrow.
I cannot just take off and go without making arrangements.
Karen now pretty much needs someone around all day.

Remember we have a heart patient here, Daryl.
We have an oximeter
So if I leave, I need to have someone there for her.

Who is going to take care of your family if you pull a Reader Rant Administrator. Hmm


This is starting to sound a lot like the list of former (and now deceased) drummers for Spinal Tap.
It's 94 this morning and tipping into 95.
But yes I AM indeed going to the doctor.
And yes, I probably do have pneumonia.
And just because I am feeling a little bit better this morning doesn't mean I will skip seeing the doc.

(SIDE NOTE)



By the way, Daryl's LIFETIME BASELINE pulse-ox has always been between (are you all sitting down?) 76 and 84 tops.
Every time he has had his vitals taken by a new nurse, or sees a new doctor, he draws a crowd, because they are amazed he is up and around and "somewhat" active.

So yes, I am well aware of the importance of going below 90...for normal folks who aren't born with half a working ticker.
Cardiac issues have been a part of our life ever since Daryl was born.

And here's a doozy...Daryl does have incredible physical strength, he just lacks stamina. He has helped me move refrigerators and other heavy stuff in the past. The trick is, we have to stop every so often because he runs out of steam. But that big boy can lift.

No, he has never had home oxygen although that may become a reality at some point, but none of his cardiologists have ever prescribed it, not yet anyway. It's been discussed and they prefer holding off as long as possible.

And his cardiologists have all been top of the line, from Cleveland Clinic to Arkansas Children's Hospital to Dallas Children's Hospital to UCLA.

Yes, ACH is a world class operation, surprisingly.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/20/20 04:57 PM

You should have had a pneumonia shot at 60.

Did you get your flu shot?

Drink lots of Lo Han Kuo beverage(Monk fruit tea), it's an old Chinese herbal remedy and it does wonders for your lungs. It's dirt cheap at most Asian markets or you can get it at aMAZON.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 02:45 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
You should have had a pneumonia shot at 60.

Is that a one-time shot, like chicken pox, or an annual shot? Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 04:18 AM

It's two different vaccines, that you get with some time in between. One protects against a bunch of strains.
The other for some different strains. For most people, no repeats are necessary. If you are at risk for lung or immune problems, your doc will tell you to repeat them every 5 yeas.r
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 12:42 PM

Here is Vaccine information for all of us from the CDC.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
It's two different vaccines, that you get with some time in between. One protects against a bunch of strains.
The other for some different strains. For most people, no repeats are necessary. If you are at risk for lung or immune problems, your doc will tell you to repeat them every 5 yeas.r

Thanks. I had no idea that there was such vaccines. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
Here is Vaccine information for all of us from the CDC.

Thanks for the post Shurly. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 01:20 PM


Current polling says the good guys lose Wisconsin to Fatass, but we win Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Hmm
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 04:10 PM

As a numbers guy, I find this very interesting. Federal filings show a record number of GOP candidates running for Congress, energized by Trump impeachment.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republi...down-socialists

Being I do election forecasts on another site, this got my attention. Will this help the GOP regain control of the House? I highly doubt it. The Republicans need a net gain of 19 seats, that isn’t about to happen. The Democrats have in my calculations 35 seats that are competitive or at risk of switching parties vs. 18 for the Republicans. If the election were held today, I say the GOP gains between 5-9 seats. These numbers are dynamic and change constantly. Now this is me and me alone. Most political pundits are predicting somewhere between 25-35 Democratic gains in the house. But they’re basing that on the Generic Congressional vote. So, I’m way out in left field on this. Which is where I like to be. I go district by district; I don’t even look at the Generic Congressional polls.

The one thing for certain is that impeachment has energized the Republicans. Prior to impeachment, the Democrats had a huge lead in enthusiasm and energy to get out and vote. The Republicans were kind of sitting on their butts. Not anymore. I’d say enthusiasm is now even, thanks to impeachment. Which I think the record number of GOP filings for the House shows. The Republicans might even have taken the lead in enthusiasm this cycle. We’ll see.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 05:29 PM

So once again, polls imply that impeachment has proved more damaging to Democrats than Republicans. It could be the single factor that insures a second Trump term. It could be the single factor that insures the Senate will remain under Republican control.

2020 could prove to be a red wave, with Republicans keeping the White House, making substantial gains in the House while holding the Senate.

All courtesy of a rushed and botched impeachment process.
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 06:16 PM

Going by the numbers, Trump is far from ensured reelection. Far as I'm concerned, a gain of a few seats in the house is irrelevant. By Jones' vote, he guaranteed his Alabama seat will be a Republican pickup. His chances were slim to begin with. On the other side, Hickenlooper in Colorado probably will win Gardner's seat handily. Maine, Arizona are pure tossup's, but I'd give the advantage to the Democrat especially in Arizona if Kelly is their choice. How ranked voting affects Maine's senate race leaves me stumped. I've yet to figure that out. Perhaps Maine depends on who the independent and third party choices are. Who is their second choice if the winner fails to achieve 50% plus one. Totally unknown at this time. Without ranked voting, I'd go with Gideon, the Democrat in a normal election. But this is entirely new, totally an unknown factor is ranked voting. For a forecaster, it sucks.

The Democrats stand a good chance in North Carolina, Georgia's two seats are another possibility. Trump isn't all that liked here in Georgia. How the democrats do in NC and in GA in my opinion depends on who their nominee is.

As for the presidency, going state by state, ignoring national polls, if the election were held today, using a generic Democratic candidate, I have it 269 Mr Generic Democratic, Trump 225 with Florida, North Carolina too close to call. 270 to win. 269 ensures a tie. But once the Democrats choose a candidate, all of this changes.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 07:45 PM

Interesting story:

Mulvaney Says U.S. Is ‘Desperate’ For Immigrants

Chief of Staff Mulvaney says:
Quote:
“We are desperate — desperate — for more people,” Mulvaney told an audience of several hundred Wednesday at the Oxford Union, according to a recording obtained by the Post.

“We are running out of people to fuel the economic growth that we’ve had in our nation over the last four years. We need more immigrants.” He emphasized that they must enter the country in a “legal fashion.”


So all of Trump's anti-immigration BS is hurting the country, not just the immigrants. It's all demagoguery for his xenophobic base.
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 08:06 PM

Here's another interesting tid bit from Gallup I just received.

"The Public Opinion Context for Trump's Reelection Bid"

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-...ign=syndication
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
So once again, polls imply that impeachment has proved more damaging to Democrats than Republicans. It could be the single factor that insures a second Trump term. It could be the single factor that insures the Senate will remain under Republican control.

2020 could prove to be a red wave, with Republicans keeping the White House, making substantial gains in the House while holding the Senate.

All courtesy of a rushed and botched impeachment process.



What can I say? If the US population has decided that self-governance is too heavy of a burden and they want to skip right to the end and go full banana republic, then that is what we will do.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/21/20 10:26 PM

Democracy is hard. Go watch Idiocracy now...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 12:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
So once again, polls imply that impeachment has proved more damaging to Democrats than Republicans. It could be the single factor that insures a second Trump term. It could be the single factor that insures the Senate will remain under Republican control.

Americans have short memories. Thank the gods. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 12:44 AM

Originally Posted By: perotista
Here's another interesting tid bit from Gallup I just received.

"The Public Opinion Context for Trump's Reelection Bid"

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-...ign=syndication

...from your link:

Quote:
Public Opinion Contexts That Are Positive for Trump

1. Americans are quite positive on a relative basis about the status of the U.S. economy. Gallup's basic indicator of confidence in the U.S. economy is the best it has been in twenty years, and indicators of Americans' views of their personal finances are at or near all-time highs.

No way Jose. Real Clear Poltics says 54.8% Americans think we're on the wrong track. Hmm

Does confirmation bias sound familiar to you? smile
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 01:48 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
Here's another interesting tid bit from Gallup I just received.

"The Public Opinion Context for Trump's Reelection Bid"

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-...ign=syndication

...from your link:

Quote:
Public Opinion Contexts That Are Positive for Trump

1. Americans are quite positive on a relative basis about the status of the U.S. economy. Gallup's basic indicator of confidence in the U.S. economy is the best it has been in twenty years, and indicators of Americans' views of their personal finances are at or near all-time highs.

No way Jose. Real Clear Poltics says 54.8% Americans think we're on the wrong track. Hmm

Does confirmation bias sound familiar to you? smile

I posted it because I found it interesting. Draw your own conclusions as that was what it was for.

This though is what caught my attention. "But his style and confrontational approach is inherently a limiting strategy and unlikely to broaden his appeal to a substantial extent."

Trump's obnoxious and uncouth persona is something I've been harping on ever since he was elected. I agree with the above, it is a very limiting factor. It is in my opinion what may be the main reason Trump loses in November. Trump is a very easy man to dislike, even if one agrees with most of his policies. History shows folks usually don't vote for someone they dislike. Unless one dislikes the other candidate more which was the case in 2016. At least with independents. So we'll see.

Regardless of the percentages shown, I do agree with most of the sentiments of Gallup's article. The pluses and minuses of Trump's reelection bid.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 04:05 AM

Originally Posted By: perotista
... I do agree with most of the sentiments of Gallup's article...

So no bases in reality. Got it. smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 07:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
You should have had a pneumonia shot at 60.

Did you get your flu shot?

Drink lots of Lo Han Kuo beverage(Monk fruit tea), it's an old Chinese herbal remedy and it does wonders for your lungs. It's dirt cheap at most Asian markets or you can get it at aMAZON.


Gotcha beat by a mile my friend but I love you for your suggestions anyway.
Being the lucky spouse of a 100% service connected VA spouse, I was getting regular pneumo and flu vax starting about ten years ago and continuing to present day.

My problem is my crack addiction and Type 2 diabetes turned my immune system and respiratory into paper mache. (and of course the ciggies)

I am back in the land of the living after a four hour ER visit.
The ER docs at Lakewood were great, as good as Long Beach VA, for a change. And FAST FAST FAST.

So that together with about a hundred bucks of drugs, and the love and care of you, my other friends, wifey and fam, and even a personal note from JUDY TENUTA herself (The Goddess - worship me you pigs!) all combined together and while I am not yet 100% I am close enough that I found a foothold and climbed up!

EVERYBODY - - I love you all, because something besides the excellent doctors had to have also played a role.
It can only be the good stuff you sent out there on my behalf.

I am not a hypochondriac. That is a "luxury" that a guy with a disabled wife and son can't engage in.
What happened then? I usually never get sick enough to go to the ER...I am there too often when it is reality for my loved ones.
Well, a GRAND MAL "F**K YOU" combination of pneumonia, allergy, inflammation and stress all hitting at once.
Oxygen therapy, plus albuterol, plus a SHOCK DOSE of predisone steroids, best ER doc efforts, your good wishes and even Judy Tenuta's Pecking Crew karmic krusade brought me back.

Hey!! "It could happen!!" LOL ROTFMOL



Still a bit raw, still aching, still hoarse, but I am breathing normally and not sweating buckets every three steps!
My O2 levels went from 84-88 back up to 94 to 96.... that is not my usual 98 but --- close enough!
Breathing is highly underrated, I must say.
But most of all, having a loving wife and family who love and care, and put up with my dumb ass, and having wonderful friends like you, is essential.

Thank you for caring about my dumb ass.

Daughter Bri starting bringing home that Monkfruit Tea and other monkfruit stuff years ago. wink
I hope I don't turn into a monk but the stuff's not bad.
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: perotista
... I do agree with most of the sentiments of Gallup's article...

So no bases in reality. Got it. smile


I have found out that anti Trumpers have one reality, pro Trumpers another and those in neither the anti nor the pro Trump camps, a third view of reality. You could switch the pro and anti Trumpers to very partisan Republicans and Democrats with independents having the third view. You could also use the words left and right, conservative and liberal etc.

Personally, I think Gallup did a good job listing the pluses and minuses. You don't which is fine. Now I'm curious, do you disagree with the pluses and minuses or just the percentages? Is your disagreements because you believe there are no pluses period, only minuses or did you think about them or just dismiss the entire list of pluses and minuses out of hand due to being in the anti Trump camp?

Actually, I think each individual on this earth views reality through their own perspectives which there are many, many reasons for the perspective they have on the world of reality.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 03:09 PM


Jeff, you know Judy?!? Did you ever play with her squeeze box? laugh
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 03:17 PM

Originally Posted By: perotista
Actually, I think each individual on this earth views reality through their own perspectives which there are many, many reasons for the perspective they have on the world of reality.

Reality def:
noun: reality
1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

Such an interesting and difficult subject. There aren’t (by definition) multiple realities, there are only variations of perception of reality. I submit that all perceptions of reality are not equivalent.

The tremendous obstacle to good government is that power, whether it be manifested in an autocrat or a pure democracy, is not granted on the basis of reality.

We humans are caught in a net of perceptive illusions - in democratic politics, there is no proportional allocation of the value of a vote related to the validity of any person’s perceived reality.

At RR, more than any place I visit, the conversations hew more to discerning what reality is, but the context is usually based on sorting facts from alternative facts and then using that information to try to argue true Reality into a larger existence.

The Catch-22 comes from the relativity of widely differing perceptions of reality concerning virtually everything that is of interest to humans. What is my point (I’m asking myself)?

Perotista is correct in his assessment above, but there is still something very offensive to me in the fact that politics, even all human interactions, are games played via perceptions and not reality. While it is true that wrong perceptions exist (they are a reality), they should not be given the status of actual reality.

Some politicians are especially adept at manipulating people’s perceptions - they are salesmen - Trump is an outstanding example. That might be a good thing if he was working for the betterment of the customer, but that seems to never be the case with him. Trump appears to have no sense of the reality of the world as a whole - that is an expression of narcissism. It becomes malignant narcissism because his perceptions inform him that he must injure a part of the world, that which he sees as threatening his self-perception.

To sum up, and to pretend that there is a useful lesson in all this, the only rules of behavior that have any chance of managing humanity’s crazy and incongruent perceptive chaos are ethics. Ethics are actually pretty simple to codify: “Do unto others as you would have done unto you.”

I propose a Constitutional amendment, to be prominently placed in the preamble and to be restated as a condition under which every Article is required to be interpreted: the Golden Rule.

Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 04:27 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: perotista
Actually, I think each individual on this earth views reality through their own perspectives which there are many, many reasons for the perspective they have on the world of reality.

Reality def:
noun: reality
1. the world or the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them.

Such an interesting and difficult subject. There aren’t (by definition) multiple realities, there are only variations of perception of reality. I submit that all perceptions of reality are not equivalent.

The tremendous obstacle to good government is that power, whether it be manifested in an autocrat or a pure democracy, is not granted on the basis of reality.

We humans are caught in a net of perceptive illusions - in democratic politics, there is no proportional allocation of the value of a vote related to the validity of any person’s perceived reality.

At RR, more than any place I visit, the conversations hew more to discerning what reality is, but the context is usually based on sorting facts from alternative facts and then using that information to try to argue true Reality into a larger existence.

The Catch-22 comes from the relativity of widely differing perceptions of reality concerning virtually everything that is of interest to humans. What is my point (I’m asking myself)?

Perotista is correct in his assessment above, but there is still something very offensive to me in the fact that politics, even all human interactions, are games played via perceptions and not reality. While it is true that wrong perceptions exist (they are a reality), they should not be given the status of actual reality.

Some politicians are especially adept at manipulating people’s perceptions - they are salesmen - Trump is an outstanding example. That might be a good thing if he was working for the betterment of the customer, but that seems to never be the case with him. Trump appears to have no sense of the reality of the world as a whole - that is an expression of narcissism. It becomes malignant narcissism because his perceptions inform him that he must injure a part of the world, that which he sees as threatening his self-perception.

To sum up, and to pretend that there is a useful lesson in all this, the only rules of behavior that have any chance of managing humanity’s crazy and incongruent perceptive chaos are ethics. Ethics are actually pretty simple to codify: “Do unto others as you would have done unto you.”

I propose a Constitutional amendment, to be prominently placed in the preamble and to be restated as a condition under which every Article is required to be interpreted: the Golden Rule.



Yes, one reality with many perceptions of that reality. That I agree with. How one navigates the real reality, the world, politics, is based on how one views that reality, the world, politics, his perception of them which results in the actions one takes. Perhaps even inaction. But who decides what the real reality is? Certain things are real, where there can be no differing perception of them. Trump is president, that is a reality in which perceptions doesn't play a part. Same goes for the world being round.

Now if the question is, is Trump a good president? There you get many different perceptions. Which of the many is correct? Is there a correct answer based on reality when we're talking about something subjective to different interpretations? Or one's perception of him. Perhaps more in the philosophical and ideological arena. Some say Trump is, some say he isn't, some just don't care one way or the other. That is the reality of the situation.

I also believe if everyone practiced the golden rule, this world would be a much better place.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 06:05 PM

Quote:
is Trump a good president?

Public opinion seems to be about evenly divided on this.

In three years he hasn't tanked the economy, hasn't started any new wars, has accomplished as much as any president in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. His trade wars have been expensive but in the long run may do more good than harm.

The White House has published an extensive list of this administration's accomplishments. READ IT HERE

Frankly, I had expected this administration to do much worse than it has done. Which is not to say I think it has done anything well, just that the results are not as bad as I expected.

Perhaps we needed someone like Trump to shake things up...not to create a sustainable system of government but to knock us out of the rut we're in. Or off the rails depending on how you look at it.

All in all, Democrats have acted like fools in their mindless opposition to Trump. I have gleefully joined in because that's what we do here. And no president has ever made it easier.

He's a jerk, he's a con man, he's a fake Christian when it serves his needs, he's greedy, corrupt, selfish, banal, petty and small minded.

Politics needs to be a lot less personal. Trump makes everything personal.

He's a horrible president. A horrible man, and he should never have been elected.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
is Trump a good president?

Public opinion seems to be about evenly divided on this.

Depending on the day, generally, more people can't stand Trump, than can. smile
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 08:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
is Trump a good president?

Public opinion seems to be about evenly divided on this.

In three years he hasn't tanked the economy, hasn't started any new wars, has accomplished as much as any president in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. His trade wars have been expensive but in the long run may do more good than harm.

The White House has published an extensive list of this administration's accomplishments. READ IT HERE

Frankly, I had expected this administration to do much worse than it has done. Which is not to say I think it has done anything well, just that the results are not as bad as I expected.

Perhaps we needed someone like Trump to shake things up...not to create a sustainable system of government but to knock us out of the rut we're in. Or off the rails depending on how you look at it.

All in all, Democrats have acted like fools in their mindless opposition to Trump. I have gleefully joined in because that's what we do here. And no president has ever made it easier.

He's a jerk, he's a con man, he's a fake Christian when it serves his needs, he's greedy, corrupt, selfish, banal, petty and small minded.

Politics needs to be a lot less personal. Trump makes everything personal.

He's a horrible president. A horrible man, and he should never have been elected.




I see nothing to disagree with you on. My own description of Trump was one of a thin skinned, egotistical opportunist who won the presidency. Then he became an obnoxious, uncouth president who throws temper tantrums, usually via twitter and calls others names like a five year old kid who's parents failed to teach him any manners.

Even so, Trump like any other president in my lifetime has done some things I supported and others I opposed. I've never followed one president or political party like a mindless robot. I take each issue on at a time, same for policy regardless of who or which party proposed it.

Now I do disliked Trump, but that has to do with Trump the man, the individual and his disgusting personality much more than what he has done or hasn't done as president. He belongs more as a wrestler in the WWE with his persona than in the Oval Office.

What I can't understand is this love/hate thrown at him. That seems to be a partisan thing determined by the letter behind one's name. I also agree that I think we're in better shape than what I or you thought we would be. But unlike you and others here, I thought Hillary would be just as bad. But in a different way. Hence my vote against both in 2016. If the election were held today, I vote the same way even knowing what I do about Trump.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 09:16 PM

Quote:
I thought Hillary would be just as bad.


We diverge a little bit here. I thought she was just the bees knees to follow up a rather dismal eight years under Obama. She was a crappy candidate but I believe she would have made an excellent administrator.

The only person on this board who hates her as much as you is our resident extreme lefty. I assume you don't like her because she is too far left? And he doesn't like her because she is too far right.

Indeed, a neoliberal, but I can't imagine her doing a worse job than Trump, and I certainly can't imagine voting for Trump to avoid a Clinton administration. What did she do to hurt you so much?
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Indeed, a neoliberal, but I can't imagine her doing a worse job than Trump, and I certainly can't imagine voting for Trump to avoid a Clinton administration. What did she do to hurt you so much?

She was investigated by the righties about 600 times - any idiot could see that she should be locked up!
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 10:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
I thought Hillary would be just as bad.


We diverge a little bit here. I thought she was just the bees knees to follow up a rather dismal eight years under Obama. She was a crappy candidate but I believe she would have made an excellent administrator.

The only person on this board who hates her as much as you is our resident extreme lefty. I assume you don't like her because she is too far left? And he doesn't like her because she is too far right.

Indeed, a neoliberal, but I can't imagine her doing a worse job than Trump, and I certainly can't imagine voting for Trump to avoid a Clinton administration. What did she do to hurt you so much?


No, it isn't her politics. Center left is fine with me which I would classify her as along with Obama. Now I would put Sanders and Warren on the far left. But that's me. I took a distinct dislike for her as first lady beginning with how she treated the military around her. Bill was always courteous, Hillary left the feeling she was looking down her nose at us. Too good for us military types.

As senator, she didn't bother me. She was senator of New York, not Georgia. As secretary of state, I think she did a decent job. I had no problem with her as secretary of state. Just no way as president. Being an underling to Obama, fine. But not the one in charge. Of course my grudge is a very old one. Really having nothing to do with politics. Call it a clash of personalities.

I'm wasn't the only one. When Trump trashed McCain, then did the same to a gold star family, if you were attending my American Legion and VFW meetings, there were few vets that would vote for Trump back then. That all changed with Hillary Clinton becoming the democratic nominee. Veterans voted for Trump 60-34 over Hillary.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/22/20 11:04 PM

When his generals brought Trump to the Pentagon and tried to explain the modern world and geopolitics to him in a tutorial session, he insulted them, called them pussies, and said he would never go to war with them. They were trying to explain a complex subject and Trump's reaction to that was name-calling and a temper tantrum. That's when a few of them made remarks about him being a moron. Since then, he's done totally un-American stuff time and time again, like believing Putin over the intelligence agencies, denigrating NATO, and kissing up to despots the world over. None of this is opinion. It is fact.

Hillary NEVER would have done any of that. Because she doesn't work for the KGB.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 02:56 AM

It's funny that otherwise perfectly rational people who swallowed the Big Lie about Crooked Hillary, when confronted by the facts that endless Republican investigations have never found anything to charge her with, have to fall back on "I just didn't like her". Which after all is the real reason people vote the way they do. They may construct a rationale for their decision, and even change that rationale as the facts unfold, but it's really how they feel. And turns out many people found qualities in Hillary they would ignore or find attractive in a male candidate. That's "people", not just men. And that's why it's going to be a long time before there is a female candidate who wins.

It's not a character defect in the candidates. It's a character defect in us.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 05:18 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Democracy is hard. Go watch Idiocracy now...


And then consider the fact that we ARE "Idiocracy" now, here...right this minute. It's already here.

Trump isn't black? So what?
John Milius made a career out of doing films that were hagiographies of men with big guns, big muscles and square jaws, who tested their mettle against formidable enemies and won the hard way, but those men always won because they were American men...and they had big dicks, too.

John Milius had none of those qualities in real life but he sure could pen a convincing screenplay (like "Red Dawn" - the 1984 original version) and convince you he was writing from real life experience.

But my first wife was married to the producer of Red Dawn before she married me. My first wife was the former Mrs. Barry Beckerman, Linda Beckerman, and Milius had had a secret crush on her the whole time she knew him.

And Milius was dead wrong about the entire premise of Red Dawn.
Milius convinced the world that LEFTISTS would weaken and destroy NATO to the point where the United States stood alone and weak enough to be invaded by the Russians.
Guess who has weakened us in reality?

HINT: Not leftists.

This is a discussion about many things.
It is not meant to be a discussion about big dicks but most of us realize that both John Milius and Donald Trump appear to be at least somewhat obsessed with the size of things, especially their own dicks.

And as of this writing, to the best of my knowledge, the daughter of John Milius is currently working for the Trump White House, which means that Trump is a secret admirer of John Milius and perhaps he dreams of the day Milius pens a hagiography of Trump and his big dick.

It might also be a reference to the fact that Trump's foreign policy re the Russians depends in part on the fact that he still thinks he can convince his fans that leftists and Democrats are all Commies who want to destroy America.

Idiocracy's president is an idiot.
America's president is an idiot.
Mike Judge is already on record as saying he's shocked how quickly his dark comedy became a blueprint for reality.
If he got the color of the antihero Idiocracy president wrong, that's nothing compared to the writer of Red Dawn getting the entire team of bad guys wrong.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 05:41 AM



Bernie got 55.7% of the vote today. Good job Bernie.


smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 05:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...[this] is not meant to be a discussion about big dicks but most of us realize that both John Milius and Donald Trump appear to be at least somewhat obsessed with the size of things, especially their own dicks.

According to Stormy, Fatass Trump wishes he had a big dick. Mebbe that's why he has to pay. smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 06:55 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...[this] is not meant to be a discussion about big dicks but most of us realize that both John Milius and Donald Trump appear to be at least somewhat obsessed with the size of things, especially their own dicks.

According to Stormy, Fatass Trump wishes he had a big dick. Mebbe that's why he has to pay. smile


Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 04:44 PM

It depends on who the female candidate is. As for 2016 and Hillary Clinton, a friend of mind summed up the election nicely. We voted for the devil we didn't know, Trump being a businessman, TV reality show host, no one knew how he would govern. We voted for the devil we didn't know over the devil we did, everyone knew exactly how Hillary would govern, she was well known, perhaps too well known. Yep, we did vote for the devil we didn't know over the devil we did.

Only the real very partisan supporters of Hillary liked her, nationwide her favorable was 38%, unfavorable 56%. Among independents who decided the election, it was 27% favorable, 70% unfavorable. Not that Trump was liked either, his nationwide figures were 36% favorable, 60% unfavorable. But where it counted, among the less to non-partisan, the non-affiliated voters Trump was seen 40% favorable/57% unfavorable which allowed him to win the independent vote ultimately, the White house.

You can blame the voters if you want, but 2016 was decided by the actions, choices, decisions made by both major parties. After all, elections are basically beauty contests. History shows people don't usually vote for someone they dislike. There were a lot of things to dislike in 2016.

Trump and Hillary Clinton set the record for the lowest favorable and highest unfavorable ratings of any candidate ever. No other major party candidate with the lone exception of Barry Goldwater back in 1964 was viewed favorable by less than 50% of the entire electorate, his was 43% which Trump and Clinton smashed. Even Goldwater at 47% wasn't seen by more than half of all Americans in an unfavorable light. Trump's 60% and Clinton's 56% trounced Goldwater's previous unfavorable high of 47%.

Now think about it, what are the odds the two most disliked and unwanted candidates to be the next president would face off against each other in the same election? That has to be so high it might challenge the odds of winning the lottery.

Because you liked Clinton, doesn't mean everyone else had to. Everyone has their own reasons for voting as they do. Everyone views the world of politics differently, through their own eyes and perspectives. It is my opinion in 2016, Sanders would have trounced Trump. You just picked the one and only Democrat, alive or dead that could possibly lose to Trump.

I didn't like either major party candidate, I voted against both and would do so again today. Being a woman had nothing to do with that. I would gladly vote for a Tammy Duckworth, an Amy Klobuchar, Lisa Murkowski, Gabbard, Ernst, Collins, Baldwin to name a few from both parties. But not Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 05:24 PM

Well said
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 09:39 PM



Ol' Joe looks to be the winner of South Carolina next Saturday, but that's ok, Bernie will only be a few points behind him for second place win. Then comes Super Tuesday where Bernie will win 10-11 of the 14 states.

Bloomy will get Oklahoma, Biden will get Texas, Amy will get Minnesota, and Bernie will scoop-up the rest. smile
Posted by: perotista

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/23/20 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Ol' Joe looks to be the winner of South Carolina next Saturday, but that's ok, Bernie will only be a few points behind him for second place win. Then comes Super Tuesday where Bernie will win 10-11 of the 14 states.

Bloomy will get Oklahoma, Biden will get Texas, Amy will get Minnesota, and Bernie will scoop-up the rest. smile


I wouldn't take it to the bank or bet the farm on that yet. South Carolina I mean. On 1 Feb Biden had a 18 point lead over Sanders in South Carolina. Today, that lead is down to 3. The trend is all in Sanders favor to win South Carolina. Biden has seen black support erode in South Carolina from 55% on 1 Feb down to 35% today. The big beneficiary of black support goes to Tom Steyer who has climbed from 6% to 24% during this same time period. But Steyer doesn't have much white support. 3rd seems the best Steyer can do.

The black vote is huge in South Carolina. In 2016 blacks made up 57% of all democratic primary voters in South Carolina. We'll see what happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders eked out a win. Considering the margin of error, I'd say South Carolina is too close to call.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/24/20 12:22 AM

My wife just applied for Social Security online. We ran a free calculator called Open Social Security and discovered the optimal strategy. She's going to take half of mine when I turn 70 and start collecting, so the best strategy is for her to collect immediately and for me to collect half of hers. They give you a nice plan and all the amounts you will collect in each phase of the plan. All you need is your DOB and full retirement benefit from your Social Security statement. And your spouse's if you are married.

To do stuff online with SS, you need a MySocialSecurity account. They use Equifax to verify it's you, so lift your freeze a day or so before you go to Social Security online, if you have one.. Otherwise they lock you out for a day. Data was a bit more complex because we needed date of marriage and years of last work. That's ancient history! We had to go find a napkin from our wedding reception to be sure. laugh
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/24/20 05:07 AM


Tonight on 60 Minutes, Bernie said that Castro eliminating childhood illiteracy is a good thing....while at the same time Bernie condemned Castro for his Authoritarianism.

Rightwingers are in full drama queen mode: This is the end of Bernie. It's over for Bernie.

Just because these rightwing asshats can't eliminate childhood illiteracy in their trailer parks and Castro could in all of Cuba, doesn't make everything that Castro has done a bad thing.

This is what black and white thinking that Conservatives are famous for frames their analysis of situations faulty and the real reason why these people are losers in life.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/24/20 09:34 AM

It's actually a lot easier to teach kids how to read and write Spanish than English. Almost every Spanish word is spelled exactly how it sounds. It's so easy, Mexican schools expect kids coming to first grade to already know how to read!

English is a nightmare, in comparison.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/25/20 08:23 PM

One of the old family homes that served as a centerpiece to my childhood has burned down. Even though it was no longer in the family it's still heartbreaking to see it wiped out.



Atlantic Beach House Damaged by Fire

Yes, there was a dock out back, every home on Reynolds Channel in Atlantic Beach (Long Island) had their own dock, and boy howdy did my uncle and cousins make use of it.

My cousin Ernest, who grew up in that home, said it's probably a teardown. cry

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/27/20 02:27 AM

I had an epiphany the other day: We talk about gay people being a small minority, but actually if you consider what different people LIKE, they are in the majority. Here's my reasoning. Over 50% of the population likes the sausage. So if you are a gay man, what you like is liked by the majority of the human race. Likewise, over 50% of the population likes vajayjay. So if you are a lesbian, what you like is liked by the majority of the human race.

The overlap in likes, is all the bi people. Presumable they like both. So if you forget about individual's genitals (since they are PRIVATE parts, after all) and concentrate on what they like, we all are mainstream!
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/27/20 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I had an epiphany the other day: We talk about gay people being a small minority, but actually if you consider what different people LIKE, they are in the majority. Here's my reasoning. Over 50% of the population likes the sausage. So if you are a gay man, what you like is liked by the majority of the human race. Likewise, over 50% of the population likes vajayjay. So if you are a lesbian, what you like is liked by the majority of the human race.

The overlap in likes, is all the bi people. Presumable they like both. So if you forget about individual's genitals (since they are PRIVATE parts, after all) and concentrate on what they like, we all are mainstream!


The dumbest assumption some of us seem to make over and over again, is the notion that sexuality is strictly binary.
Sexuality in all animals is a continuum.

Yeah sure, most of the human race clusters over near the hetero side of the continuum, but there are more than enough who occupy a fuzzy side zone that ranges out into the middle.

What about that wild girlfriend who once hinted that she wouldn't mind getting together with your other gal pal under the sheets.
Was she just blotto drunk or did she just need enough liquid courage to voice her idea?

What about your best wingman who once confided that he'd be okay with tag teaming that little hottie along with you who was apparently very open-minded.
Maybe you might have shrunk from the idea but he was as open-minded as she was.

What about that couple down the street who said they'd be okay with him watching you nail his wife?

What about that gay guy you knew who admitted that, every once in a while he has been so taken with a female that he wound up "servicing" her and, much to their mutual surprise, it was mutually enjoyable?

And what about that friend of yours who simply says, "Bi-poly-switch - I'm not indecisive, I'm greedy!"

Sure, most heteros are strictly hetero and most gay people are strictly gay but there's plenty for whom, sexuality is somewhat situational at times.
For these people, if they are attracted to you, they're attracted, plain and simple.




Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/27/20 04:15 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I had an epiphany the other day: We talk about gay people being a small minority, but actually if you consider what different people LIKE, they are in the majority. Here's my reasoning. Over 50% of the population likes the sausage. So if you are a gay man, what you like is liked by the majority of the human race. Likewise, over 50% of the population likes vajayjay. So if you are a lesbian, what you like is liked by the majority of the human race.

The overlap in likes, is all the bi people. Presumable they like both. So if you forget about individual's genitals (since they are PRIVATE parts, after all) and concentrate on what they like, we all are mainstream!

Speaking as a gay man, I'm partial to hairy muscley bodies. smile Followed by a very masculine persona. The penis is way down the list as far as boxes to check. (...and it better not be hooded when I get there. nono )

(If I was into smooth guys , I might as well just date a woman. Hmm )
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/27/20 06:12 AM



Doug Thompson only has 5,210 posts at Reader Rant? Hmm
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/27/20 09:30 PM

Remember that Saturday is leap year day and God can't see anything you do.

So have fun.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/28/20 12:53 AM

There is something to look forward to in the coming economic apocalypse:

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/28/20 01:56 AM

Prediction:
"The Great Facebook Collapse of 2022." (or sooner)
It will be very much like CB radio - - one day most people will look up and realize that FB is just as toxic and useless as CB radio, and POOF!! it will become "crickets".
FB = CB 21st century.

I predict open source will eventually "bake" social media messaging capability into a tiny dongle so instead of a massive centralized FB ecosystem, our own devices will handle traffic and it will all be in the hardware.

You won't need to subscribe to anything.
The difference is, it will be more geared toward messaging and less on "platforms" and "pages".
And that's not all bad. People need to be less dependent on this stupid "global village" concept because as it turns out, the so called "global village" isn't worth s*** to begin with. We just suckered ourselves into believing it was.

It won't go out with a bang, more like a whimper, or more like IBS diarrhea. Instead of a great outrush, more like painful dribs and drabs, bloats and blasts.

Yeah sure, I'd miss my Leon Russell fan group but okay, I still KNOW all these people. We can be together many different ways.
I don't need lightning fast server architecture to share photos of Leon.

The Rant suffered when FB was invented, going from 6000 active members to the 30 or 40 we have now, but strangely enough, it's starting to become more active again. People HATE FB and Quora. The Rant is like old familiar friends.

FB might continue to exist but I suspect it will be a lot more like a business card.
"Here I am, this is what I am into...if you know me, this is where you can find me. etc etc"

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/28/20 04:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...one day most people will look up and realize that FB is just as toxic and useless as CB radio...

How was CB radio ever toxic? Hmm

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/28/20 05:10 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...one day most people will look up and realize that FB is just as toxic and useless as CB radio...

How was CB radio ever toxic? Hmm




During the peak of the CB craze it wasn't especially toxic.
A couple of years after that craze had peaked it DID become so, very much so in fact.
I was a ham and a CB-er all during that time period, and not just an ordinary CB-er either.
I gave in to the temptation and my average RF output was between 50 and 500 watts depending on which radio I was using.

CB radio linear amplifier - aka a "footwarmer"
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/28/20 01:18 PM



The difference between Trump and Nero is that fiddling actually takes talent. coffee
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/28/20 01:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Prediction:
"The Great Facebook Collapse of 2022." (or sooner)
It will be very much like CB radio - - one day most people will look up and realize that FB is just as toxic and useless as CB radio, and POOF!! it will become "crickets".
FB = CB 21st century.

I predict open source will eventually "bake" social media messaging capability into a tiny dongle so instead of a massive centralized FB ecosystem, our own devices will handle traffic and it will all be in the hardware.

You won't need to subscribe to anything.
The difference is, it will be more geared toward messaging and less on "platforms" and "pages".
And that's not all bad. People need to be less dependent on this stupid "global village" concept because as it turns out, the so called "global village" isn't worth s*** to begin with. We just suckered ourselves into believing it was.

It won't go out with a bang, more like a whimper, or more like IBS diarrhea. Instead of a great outrush, more like painful dribs and drabs, bloats and blasts.

Yeah sure, I'd miss my Leon Russell fan group but okay, I still KNOW all these people. We can be together many different ways.
I don't need lightning fast server architecture to share photos of Leon.

The Rant suffered when FB was invented, going from 6000 active members to the 30 or 40 we have now, but strangely enough, it's starting to become more active again. People HATE FB and Quora. The Rant is like old familiar friends.

FB might continue to exist but I suspect it will be a lot more like a business card.
"Here I am, this is what I am into...if you know me, this is where you can find me. etc etc"



I hate Facebook like Zuckerberg was Hitler's personal fart sucker. Seriously. I hate it like poison.

But when I find a Trump page, I can be me and still keep all my teeth, so...

Of course, that also means I spend 40% of each year with my account banned.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/29/20 02:23 AM

I just like to see pics of my grand nieces and my high school crush. Pretty much never post anything on Facebook, or LinkedIn either. But I do have over a quarter million followers on Quora. I am discerning enough to recognize when people are getting paid to ask stupid questions or others ask homework questions. Those just go in the bin. I've done a lot of things, so I have a lot of credentials.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/29/20 02:31 AM

Interesting little bit of history here:

Ham radio let people all over the world talk for free.
That led to CB: Less expense, no license, smaller area. Still talk for free.
That led to bulletin board systems, as soon as users got PCs and modems. Still talk for free.
That led to the internet, where people from all over the world talk for free!
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 02/29/20 04:26 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Interesting little bit of history here:

Ham radio let people all over the world talk for free.
That led to CB: Less expense, no license, smaller area. Still talk for free.
That led to bulletin board systems, as soon as users got PCs and modems. Still talk for free.
That led to the internet, where people from all over the world talk for free!


Absolutely spot on.
However...

Before the internet it was thought that the cause of collective stupidity was the lack of access to information.
Yeah well, it wasn't that. tonbricks
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Interesting little bit of history here:

Ham radio let people all over the world talk for free.
That led to CB: Less expense, no license, smaller area. Still talk for free.
That led to bulletin board systems, as soon as users got PCs and modems. Still talk for free.
That led to the internet, where people from all over the world talk for free!


Also, imagine if, during the development of all those technologies, users had come to the realization that THEY were being bought and sold.
Ham, CB, BBS's, the general internet, none of them treated users as "the product"....only Facebook and these other social media platforms have done that.

We are NOT USERS on Facebook. We are "product".
Cambridge Analytica never hung out on 27.125 mHz or 147.435mHz and analyzed what people were talking about and using it against them.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Ol' Joe looks to be the winner of South Carolina next Saturday...


smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 03:13 AM

Originally Posted By: perotista
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Ol' Joe looks to be the winner of South Carolina next Saturday...

I wouldn't take it to the bank or bet the farm on that yet. South Carolina I mean. On 1 Feb Biden had a 18 point lead over Sanders in South Carolina. Today, that lead is down to 3. The trend is all in Sanders favor to win South Carolina...

ROTFMOL , gobsmacked

Oh well...coffee
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 03:50 AM

And it wasn't close enough to feed more red meat to the Bernie Frenzy.

Shucks.

Steyer's out though, and nobody else got squat...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 03:57 AM


After Super Tuesday, there will be a lot more out too. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
...Steyer's out ...

Just goes to show that you really can't buy an election. You can buy love like Fatass did with Melanie, but you can't buy an election.

smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 09:05 AM

It is with a little qualifier:

Collective stupidity is caused by a lack of access to true information. These days, the internet has true information in about the proportion of phone calls from people I actually want to talk to.

Some a-hole was actually arguing with me about aluminum window frames melting as fast as vinyl frames during wildfires. Which of course is absolute BS. Buh bye! click
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 09:12 AM

Quote:
You can buy love


I wouldn't call that love.. She and the kid don't even live in DC. They have a house in Maryland.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 12:59 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Some a-hole was actually arguing with me about aluminum window frames melting as fast as vinyl frames during wildfires. Which of course is absolute BS. Buh bye! click

Vinyl melting temp approx. 200C
Aluminum meting temp around 660C
Wildfire temp starting at 1200C

Maybe “as fast” is a relative term in the context of burning up in a wildfire?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 06:36 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
It is with a little qualifier:

Collective stupidity is caused by a lack of access to true information.


That's because no one ever bothered to tell "Comic Book Guy" that he's only an expert on COMIC BOOKS! Apparently Comic Book Guy is more of an expert on everything than....THE EXPERTS!

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 08:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...Comic Book Guy is more of an expert on everything than....THE EXPERTS!

Sounds just like that orange clown in the Oval.

smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 09:30 PM

Quote:
That led to the internet, where people from all over the world talk for free!

I dunno about ya'll but I pay $100 bucks a month to talk for free.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 11:44 PM

Regarding the window frames melting: Of course both will melt if your house is on fire. But what about when the hillside some distance away is on fire? I keep the area around my house free from fuel. So any wildfire is going to be some distance away. Facing a fire, vinyl window frames melt a lot faster, the glass panes fall out, and flying embers get inside. Our significant wildfires feature 60 MPH winds.

Burning embers inside your house are a very bad thing.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/01/20 11:57 PM

It might not be significant, in any case.

Study

Quote:
Results from one study showed that for vinyl window frames, the horizontal separator shown in the photos above can be vulnerable to radiant heat exposures. At fairly low radiant exposures, the frame deformed, and the glass fell out. Results from testing done at the University of California (UC) did not show this effect. All of the double hung windows (i.e., windows where the upper and lower parts of the window can both move) were constructed with a metal bar in the separator. The bottom line of the UC research was that the glass is the most vulnerable component in a window and not the frame materials. This finding is also supported by research conducted in Australia.


But arguing about things that are of little consequence is a popular human entertainment!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/02/20 12:36 AM


Mayor Pete is out. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/02/20 01:08 AM

Quote:
A federal judge said Sunday that Kenneth Cuccinelli was unlawfully appointed as acting director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services because his actual position wasn’t eligible under the law.

Law and Crime.com


"...policies that Kenneth Cuccinelli implemented are void."

America is sick of inept and incompetent Trump and his skirting the laws.

#VoteTrumpOut smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/02/20 06:55 PM




Amy is gone. She will endorse ol' Joe.

Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 03:33 AM



Fatass Trump:

Quote:
"it’s very safe" to hold rallies amid coronavirus outbreak


This may turn out to be the best example of Darwinism ever. smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 03:36 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Fatass Trump:

Quote:
"it’s very safe" to hold rallies amid coronavirus outbreak


This may turn out to be the best example of Darwinism ever. smile


GAWD in Heaven I hope so,
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 03:53 AM

Latest evidence from Washington State shows that Covid-19 has actually been here for about 6 weeks. Their infected count is much lower than the real number because they would not test anybody who had no direct link to China. But since it's been here for long enough for say 6 generations of infected people, links to China are not a valid diagnostic criteria. Bottom line: It's not "coming". It's already here.

So rallies are unbelievably stupid, as are big conferences like CPAC. It will not be a surprise if hundreds of people who attended either contract it. Just look at South Korea, Iran, or Italy.
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 12:55 PM

But, President Donald (...) Trump* won't attend in person, he'll say he has to stay in Washington to manage the crises, so he'll show up via video...
eek2 :ohsnap: cry


*Impeached
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 01:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
But, President Donald (...) Trump* won't attend in person, he'll say he has to stay in Washington to manage the crises...

He’s supposedly a paranoid germophobe, so managing the crises probably means protecting his own worthless arse in an anti-virus bunker. Somebody should lock him in there and turn off the sound.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
But, President Donald (...) Trump* won't attend in person, he'll say he has to stay in Washington to manage the crises...

He’s supposedly a paranoid germophobe, so managing the crises probably means protecting his own worthless arse in an anti-virus bunker. Somebody should lock him in there and turn off the sound.


Turn ON the sound: Rickroll the hell out of him.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/03/20 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Turn ON the sound: Rickroll the hell out of him.


ROTFMOL

(I did mean turn off any sounds coming from King Kon...)
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/04/20 04:22 AM


Bloomy spent $500M to win American Samoa. smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/04/20 05:04 AM

I really think Bloomberg is in the race to make sure Sanders doesn't win. It's kind of like Trump telling his supporters to go vote for Sanders, so he can select his opponent in November. But I think he's going to buy a bunch of delegates, just so he can give them to Biden just before the convention. He won't have anywhere near enough to win, but he can be kingmaker.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/04/20 05:20 AM


Bloomy is only in the race because he didn't think Joe was "getting it done." Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/04/20 05:37 AM

Bloomy is a billionaire: He does NOT want Sanders to win.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/04/20 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Bloomy spent $500M to win American Samoa. smile


That's 1/60th of his net worth, and falls inside the value of his income.

It's the equivalent of an average Joe spending $800.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/05/20 05:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Bloomy spent $500M to win American Samoa. smile

That's 1/60th of his net worth, and falls inside the value of his income.

It's the equivalent of an average Joe spending $800.

That's not the point. The point is that Bloomy spent $500M and won a territory's delegates prize. It's good to know that elections can't be bought by rich folks. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/05/20 05:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
But, President Donald (...) Trump* won't attend in person, he'll say he has to stay in Washington to manage the crises, so he'll show up via video...
eek2 :ohsnap: cry


*Impeached

Fatass put the science-hating religious nut in charge of the virus-watch. Trump is too cowardly to go out in public. What a wuss. rolleyes
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/05/20 06:39 AM

But Trump doesn't need to leave the White House to get the virus. It may come to Trump.

Pence Brings the Virus to White House

Quote:
Pence shook hands with a group of 44 cadets from the Sarasota Military Academy last Friday during a visit to the area for a political fundraiser, according to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune.

A mother and son from the military school have been placed in quarantine “as a precautionary measure” after the mother came in contact with a person who tested positive for the virus at Sarasota Doctors Hospital, according to a post on the school’s Facebook page.


I guess we'll see in about 10 days. We might end up with President Pelosi yet. If Trump and his minions keep on doing stupid things like attending rallies and having big meetings, it's inevitable that Trump gets it.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/05/20 09:31 PM

Every. single. time. LOL ROTFMOL LOL

Former Illinois Congressman Aaron Schock Comes Out As Gay

Quote:
During his time in office, Schock opposed marriage equality and the 2011 repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” which prohibited gay and lesbian people from serving openly in the U.S. military. He also voted against the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which expanded the 1969 federal hate crime law to include victims targeted because of their sexuality and gender identity and was signed into law in 2009.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/06/20 03:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

It's about as predictable as the sun rising: A closeted conservative who doth protest too much about gays comes out as gay.

The first clue was the Katie Perry concert tickets. coffee
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/06/20 04:26 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

It's about as predictable as the sun rising: A closeted conservative who doth protest too much about gays comes out as gay.

The first clue was the Katie Perry concert tickets. coffee


Katy Perry?? I thought she was a refuge for former Even Jelly Cools who broke away from their churches.
KP is a gay icon?

I think she's a hottie, and probably as naughty as a PK girl can be.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/06/20 07:41 AM

He's too good looking to be straight!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/06/20 01:09 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
He's too good looking to be straight!

That was the second clue. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/07/20 04:42 PM



Third clue:

Getting into tickle fights with other guys to see where it goes...

smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 04:11 AM

But but but but I thought only libtards committed voter fraud!!

Woman arrested in voter fraud investigation

Quote:
CLERMONT — The Lake County Sheriff’s Office arrested a woman in Clermont they believe falsified voter registration information for 119 individuals living in Lake County.

Clermont resident Cheryl Hall, 63, was arrested when she turned herself in at the LCSO’s South Lake office about 1 p.m. Thursday. She is charged with 10 felony counts of submitting false voter registration information.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 04:22 AM

That's my little town! Clermont! Hell, I might even know her...
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 05:06 AM

By the way, has anyone given any further thought to the possibility that Corona Virus could be weaponized at a remote location 700 miles offshore, like say perhaps in a failed island nation like Haiti?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 05:45 AM

Voter fraud is pretty much a Republican thing. Cheating and deception is the only way they can win, so I guess it's difficult for them to tell when they have stepped over the line into actual crimes. Seems Trump can't.

Most of the cases involving a Democrat are just people thinking they have their voting rights restored when they don't.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 05:51 AM

Covid-19 is a pretty piss-poor bio-weapon. First, nobody has a vaccine, so it's likely to affect your guys as much as the enemy. Second, it's not very lethal and even worse to has no effect on some people.

It's much better as a terrorist weapon, since it's SO contagious. Countries could avoid it, but only by crippling their economy.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 10:57 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
But but but but I thought only libtards committed voter fraud!!

Woman arrested in voter fraud investigation

Quote:
CLERMONT — The Lake County Sheriff’s Office arrested a woman in Clermont they believe falsified voter registration information for 119 individuals living in Lake County.

Clermont resident Cheryl Hall, 63, was arrested when she turned herself in at the LCSO’s South Lake office about 1 p.m. Thursday. She is charged with 10 felony counts of submitting false voter registration information.

I do believe that is Greger’s neck a tha woods!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 12:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
But but but but I thought only libtards committed voter fraud!!

Woman arrested in voter fraud investigation

Quote:
CLERMONT — The Lake County Sheriff’s Office arrested a woman in Clermont they believe falsified voter registration information for 119 individuals living in Lake County.

Clermont resident Cheryl Hall, 63, was arrested when she turned herself in at the LCSO’s South Lake office about 1 p.m. Thursday. She is charged with 10 felony counts of submitting false voter registration information.

Originally Posted By: Greger
That's my little town! Clermont! Hell, I might even know her...

Originally Posted By: logtroll
I do believe that is Greger’s neck a tha woods!

Captain Obvious chimes in. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 12:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
But but but but I thought only libtards committed voter fraud!!

That's only ReTHUGlicon projection. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 01:18 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Captain Obvious chimes in. coffee

G'mornin' Cap'n! Whatcha got for us?
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 03:29 PM

I'm a lumberjack, not a scientist, so when I want to understand complex things, I ask Dr. Science!

https://youtu.be/gIMOUgBJdnw?t=63

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 07:47 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Covid-19 is a pretty piss-poor bio-weapon. First, nobody has a vaccine, so it's likely to affect your guys as much as the enemy. Second, it's not very lethal and even worse to has no effect on some people.

It's much better as a terrorist weapon, since it's SO contagious. Countries could avoid it, but only by crippling their economy.


But that is precisely what I was talking about.
Crippling national economies! Not a single bullet needed.
Just run around spreading the microbes and beat a hasty exit.
No one's going to notice you gently swabbing a few handrails and doorknobs.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 07:54 PM

Oh looky at what just resurfaced.

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/08/20 08:06 PM

Oh, by the way, an influential right wing think tank is laying off employees because...well...apparently they are BROKE!

Quote:
The Illinois-based Heartland Institute, which captured headlines last month for promoting a German teenager with ties to neo-Nazis as the climate denier’s alternative to acclaimed youth activist Greta Thunberg, pink-slipped at least 10 staffers Friday, shedding what one former employee described as “more than half” the organization’s staff.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/09/20 01:13 AM

Oh, by the way...Clint Eastwood has now turned against Trump.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/09/20 09:40 PM

And he can join Mitt Romney and John McCain on the ash heap of Republican history. Willie Nelson can play them all a sad song.

Biggest point drop in history today in the stock market. Won't be long Donald Trump will join them...
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/09/20 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
And he can join Mitt Romney and John McCain on the ash heap of Republican history. Willie Nelson can play them all a sad song.

Biggest point drop in history today in the stock market. Won't be long Donald Trump will join them...


Willie won't play for them.
He can't stand Republicans! ROTFMOL
By the way, neither could Leon. LOL
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/10/20 03:55 PM

Willie Nelson recently played at a Beto o'Rourke rally. He was widely panned by Republican fans as a traitor to country music and the Republican party it stands for. He was boycotted and Republican music fans swore never to listen to or ever buy his records again.

Nelson, like many others, was relegated to the Republican ash heap of history.

Perhaps you remember the Dixie Chicks? They had the gall to insult George Walker Bush. I think they and Willie will be happy to play for such honorees in their little club.

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/10/20 06:29 PM

The Dixie Chicks' new album is called "Gaslighter." I wonder what it's about?
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/10/20 09:38 PM

I listened to the song "Gaslighter" yesterday. It's ostensibly maybe about an ex boyfriend...but probably not.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/11/20 04:42 AM


You always know when Fatass Trump has screwed things up royally, when you hear a ReTHUGlicon say, "This is no time to politicize things."

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/11/20 04:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Willie won't play for them.
He can't stand Republicans! ROTFMOL
By the way, neither could Leon. LOL

Who can stand a ReTHUGlicon? coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/13/20 03:48 AM



So Trump wants to spread socialism around and have a tax holiday, have payroll tax relief...

So why was socialism bad when Trump used the word with Bernie? Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/13/20 07:10 AM

Payroll tax holiday won't help people who get laid off, or people who are contractors like my SIL who is a dental hygienist, or anybody working on gig jobs,

Unless the gig is Amazon delivery driver. I hear they are very busy, but I just got something overnight.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/13/20 07:18 AM

What we need is housing for all, so they can be isolated. And health care for all. I'm sure Trump would rather poor people just die, but it doesn't work like that: Unvaccinated poor people just make it a lot more dangerous for rich people. Don't forget, you can get drug-resistant TB from a beggar on the way to the opera. And you can't buy covid-19 vaccine at any price.

Republicans are doing their best to claim this is all a democratic hoax, and now they are going to die en masse from denial of reality.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/13/20 11:37 AM



According to Terry Gross' guest on Fresh Air yesterday, the Trump administration turned down the WHO's testing methods to go their own way. It took weeks to develop a new US test and wasted valuable time.

The best way to head of an epidemic is to get out in front of it and test everybody from the very beginning.

Hmm
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/13/20 04:06 PM

We think our concern is with medically-resistant diseases, but in reality the problem is with knowledge-resistant leaders
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/13/20 05:23 PM

The coronavirus is coming to you.
It’s coming at an exponential speed: gradually, and then suddenly.
It’s a matter of days. Maybe a week or two.
When it does, your healthcare system will be overwhelmed.
Your fellow citizens will be treated in the hallways.
Exhausted healthcare workers will break down. Some will die.
They will have to decide which patient gets the oxygen and which one dies.
The only way to prevent this is social distancing today. Not tomorrow. Today.
That means keeping as many people home as possible, starting now.

link
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/14/20 04:01 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
We think our concern is with medically-resistant diseases, but in reality the problem is with knowledge-resistant leaders


No President has ever been quite as disdainful of knowledge, as indifferent to facts, as untroubled by his benightedness than Trump.

Trump has no desire to acquaint himself with most issues, let alone master them.

Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/17/20 07:42 PM

!
Amazon is shutting down everything except essentials. They aren't restocking non essential items.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/18/20 03:15 AM

I bet they are not shutting down e-book sales!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/18/20 03:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Amazon is shutting down everything except essentials. They aren't restocking non essential items.

***piffle***

Amazon sent their Corp employees home two weeks ago. Costco's Corp employees are still standing. smile

Costco's warehouses are all open. Hmm Costco even paid $1BN for Innovel Solutions today. coffee
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/19/20 02:38 AM

Salt Lake City had a 5.4 quake today and sh!t just got real for Mormons.

Utah earthquake causes Angel Moroni on Salt Lake Temple to lose his trumpet

Experts agree it's because the first syllable is "trump". ROTFMOL

My money says someone already dragged it home and converted it into a bong.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/19/20 08:40 AM

Some genius is saying the best thing you could do with your Covid government check is to circulate it back into the economy by hiring hookers. Not an expensive one though. Lots and lots of cheap ones.

But that is not "social distance". So maybe just strippers but maintain a 6 foot separation.
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/19/20 06:50 PM

Might as well hire hookers, we're pretty much f*ucked anyway.

I don't know if retirees will receive checks, we get one every month anyway. I heard something about anyone who has filed income tax will receive a check. Mine isn't big enough to require that I file income tax so I haven't for years.

I don't need it, but I'm certainly not one to look a socialist gift in the mouth, I need a new phone and my car needs work, there's always stuff I need and can't afford.

Hookers and strippers would be nice, but only if they do floors. The housekeeper moved away.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/19/20 08:20 PM

That's like the old joke about the hooker who tells a guy she'll do anything for $100.

"Paint my house."
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/20/20 02:36 PM

Quote:
Man knows so little about his fellows. In his eyes all men or women act upon what he believes would motivate him if he were mad enough to do what that other man or woman is doing.
William Faulkner - Light in August
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/21/20 01:13 AM

Am I too old to start playing the viola? Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/21/20 02:06 AM

I looked into the checks they're sending out, I won't get one because I don't have any earned income. But hey...I get a $1200 check every month! I'm walkin' in high cotton out here...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/21/20 08:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
I looked into the checks they're sending out, I won't get one because I don't have any earned income. But hey...I get a $1200 check every month! I'm walkin' in high cotton out here...


Republicans Found a Way to Mail Checks and Still Screw People Over

Quote:
Americans with little to no tax liability (aka, poor folks) will only receive a minimum payment of $600, unless they earned less than $2,500, in which case they get zilch. Low-wage workers who don’t have a federal tax return for 2018 or 2019—adults generally aren’t required to file one they if earn less than the standard deduction—also won’t qualify for the early rebate. (They could still get it next year if they file taxes for 2020, but by that time it will be a bit late.) Meanwhile, the payments phase down for workers who make more than $75,000 and drop to zero for those making $99,000 and above (double those numbers for joint filers)

- Slate.com

Leave it to the GOP to screw poor people. It's just what they do. Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/22/20 03:47 AM

At least they're consistent. "Screw the poor."

Well, we have a motto, too: "Eat the rich."
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/22/20 11:27 AM

"Eat the rich."

That is so joke rich, but they would get me banned...


ROTFMOL
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/22/20 12:21 PM

Another President Donald (...) Trump* failure. Russian Military deployed to a NATO country to help them.

Russian army to send coronavirus help to Italy after Putin phone call

And the President Donald (D***weed) Trump* sends an offer of help to North Korea. Trump Writes to Kim Jong-un Offering Help in Virus Fight, North Korea Says

At least Italy, a friend and ally, is getting help to save lives...

*Impeached
Posted by: logtroll

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/22/20 11:28 PM

Had a lovely day today. We went and worked at the cabin; sanded the rest of the floor, did some mouse-proofing, and planted a flowerbed. The creek is running high from snowmelt but we had sunny 65 degree weather.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/23/20 01:53 AM



Non-essential Hobby Lobby is staying open during the pandemic because the owner's wife got a message from God to stay open.

coffee

It's not like the Hobby Lobby's owner is down with science or healthcare which Hobby Lobby doesn't provide for their employees anyway.

Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/23/20 02:16 AM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Had a lovely day today. We went and worked at the cabin; sanded the rest of the floor, did some mouse-proofing, and planted a flowerbed. The creek is running high from snowmelt but we had sunny 65 degree weather.


My brother and his wife came out, brought me weed and groceries, she had a bottle of bourbon, he had fishing pole. We visited, got a little drunk, he caught a few Warmouth Perch and took them home in a bucket. The creek has been high all winter and has just settled back into its banks, probably mid 80s today with low humidity, a nice day.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/23/20 07:18 PM

Well, I tested negative for the plague. All I had was the sinus bug that's going around.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: ReaderRant RoundTable for Winter 2020 - 03/23/20 08:20 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Non-essential Hobby Lobby is staying open during the pandemic because the owner's wife got a message from God to stay open.

coffee

It's not like the Hobby Lobby's owner is down with science or healthcare which Hobby Lobby doesn't provide for their employees anyway.

Hmm


Why should HL provide healthcare when they can just socialize the overhead and make taxpayers pay for it instead?

Of course, if taxpayers paid for EVERYONE's healthcare, their own included, then we could put the grifter insurance cartels out of business. It's this piecemeal thing that hurts us...not to mention that in many states, the Medicaid option sucks ass.

Not in CA, thankfully.
By the way, Daryl WILL be getting Medi-Cal, we finally got that worked out, thank God.