RoundTable - SPRING 2020

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/23/20 10:10 PM

Now is the Spring of our discontent, and with that

WELCOME

to the Reader Rant RoundTable for Spring 2020

The only thing to write about is the thing that occupies everyone's mind right now.



Normally we'd all be seeing the signs of Spring approaching.
Snow would be melting up North and in the Midwest, young folks would be flirting in the parks and at the lakes, kids in school would be planning their prom and graduation and overall economic activity would be cruising along like a favorite hot rod on a country road.

Not this time.
I wish I had something better, even some dark humor.
I don't, but if anyone else does, please feel free to add.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/23/20 11:01 PM

100 songs to help lift your spirits during a pandemic
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 12:32 AM



Management came by at 8 am to send everyone who wasn't already working at home, home to work. I hung-around to 11:45 am. I vanpool.

Working from home this afternoon was meh. Have to remote in to my computer at work and take it from there. Can't have as many windows open either. Like three maximum. I was on the phone to I.S. once an hour. I remembered to clean my memory and history before attempting to do anything work related. I didn't remember to peruse my crowded desktop icons and had some sexy and embarrassing screen grabs.

Oops. gobsmacked
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 04:16 AM

Do you let them remotely operate your computer? As long as you don't have remote desktop enabled, your desktop should be secure. Now you know what it's like to be married! I keep my desktop very clean.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 05:32 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Do you let them remotely operate your computer? As long as you don't have remote desktop enabled, your desktop should be secure. Now you know what it's like to be married! I keep my desktop very clean.

I.S. had to take over my computer today because one piece of software that I use at work, the links wouldn't work. I.S. cleaned the cache, and yes, a pin on Safari popped up which I quickly closed.

Got rid of all desktop pics and the two pins on Safari. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 05:34 AM



Costco has suspended their famous return policy until further notice. No, you cannot bring back seven giant packs of 48-count toilet paper because you bought 12 giant packs of it and you now realize that you bought 3 year's worth. Same with your hand sanitizer and disinfection wipes. smile

...and stop bringing-back your formerly live Christmas tree in March because it died. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 05:36 AM



WA state Governor Inslee is closing down the state effective Wednesday for two weeks. It was bound to happen. Hmm
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 02:14 PM

Anybody ever watch Celebrity Apprentice, starring Donald Trump? I watched all of a minute before changing channels - I wasn't a fan of fake 'reality' as entertainment.

Still not a fan of it as government...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 03:17 PM


Picture taken MO 03/23/20 15:32 PDT at Costco W117 - Westlake Village, CA



smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 04:53 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Picture taken MO 03/23/20 15:32 PDT at Costco W117 - Westlake Village, CA



smile


This is the first time I've actually hoped an actual pot of gold really was at the end of that rainbow but at this point I am beginning to think all the gold in the world won't save us.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Picture taken MO 03/23/20 15:32 PDT at Costco W117 - Westlake Village, CA



smile


This is the first time I've actually hoped an actual pot of gold really was at the end of that rainbow but at this point I am beginning to think all the gold in the world won't save us.

There is a Kirkland Signature Drinking Water 24-ct pack and Kirkland Signature Bath Tissue, 30-ct at the end of the rainbow.

smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 08:08 PM

Why drinking water? There is zero suggestion our water districts will fail in the short term. A lot of the treatment procedures are automatic, even if some people are in quarantine or dead.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 08:12 PM

Hoarding enough of anything beyond a 34 day from now supply is stupid. Almost all of us will be dead or recovered by then. Trump is getting his wish. Just not yet.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 09:03 PM

Jeff: Daryl WILL be getting Medi-Cal, we finally got that worked out, thank God.

Indeed. Congratulations! California's Medicaid is very good. The only problem I have seen with it is it's very difficult to convince them you have enough income to get off it, and get into subsidized ACA.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 09:31 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Jeff: Daryl WILL be getting Medi-Cal, we finally got that worked out, thank God.

Indeed. Congratulations! California's Medicaid is very good. The only problem I have seen with it is it's very difficult to convince them you have enough income to get off it, and get into subsidized ACA.


The problem WAS that we couldn't keep Dr. Reardon, Daryl's cardiologist at UCLA but they called and said it was worked out finally.
PS: They're hating the fact that all these ins co's are playing Russian Roulette, so I imagine that they finally faced the fact that in the end most of their high risk patients who aren't millionaires were going to wind up on Medi-Cal anyway.

Now the paperwork begins....AGAIN.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/24/20 09:34 PM

By the way...

It's way past time I revealed to all of you, the nature of my True Church, because now more than ever, Bob is needed.



PRAISE BOB!!

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/25/20 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Why drinking water? There is zero suggestion our water districts will fail in the short term. A lot of the treatment procedures are automatic, even if some people are in quarantine or dead.

Why toilet paper? People were hoarding that big time. Hmm
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/25/20 06:24 PM

It's subconscious association: they remember getting the shits after drinking too much Corona and think "coronavirus=diarrhea"; better get prepared.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/25/20 07:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
By the way...

It's way past time I revealed to all of you, the nature of my True Church, because now more than ever, Bob is needed.



PRAISE BOB!!



I've been a member since 1984.

There's no prob with "Bob".
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/25/20 07:24 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Why drinking water? There is zero suggestion our water districts will fail in the short term. A lot of the treatment procedures are automatic, even if some people are in quarantine or dead.


Water systems go sideways if you look away from them for an INSTANT. Believe me on this one.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/26/20 12:12 PM


The commercial Fatboy Trump doesn't want you to see:

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/26/20 08:23 PM

We are all contestants on "The Apprentice" now, and I for one want to know how that equals running a country.
I want to know how supporters think that can lead to anything but blood if it keeps up long enough, with them being the first to draw it.
They won't be able to help themselves, they won't be able to curb their maniacal justification for it.

They're making up justifications for it right now.
Justification for it will be the cornerstone of their demand that the monster be reelected.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/26/20 08:46 PM

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/27/20 03:40 PM


Good news for Greger. Even if your "income" is 100% Social Security, you will still receive that $1,200.00 check.

smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/27/20 06:17 PM

I'd rather they didn't waste it on me because I don't need it.
Many many others are going to be hit hard by this, my life and income stream will continue uninterrupted.

Here's a little plague humour to brighten you dreary self isolated days...

Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/27/20 09:41 PM

Well, that's the best thing I've seen all day!
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/27/20 09:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Here's a little plague humour to brighten you dreary self isolated days...



:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Bravo.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 01:40 AM

I have been pretty busy, and have only been on the other OTHER board with any frequency.

I don't watch television, much less Fox News or any of that rot.

So it's always a bit of a shock to see how delusional people are over the pandemic.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 03:06 AM

Tucson just went full lockdown.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 05:42 AM

Just went to get the mail out of the PO Box, and to the ATM to get some cash: Gloves and mask. Avoided going in until nobody else was there. Put the cash and mail in a plastic bag to sit for 4 days, along with the gloves. Wife and I are very familiar with sterile procedure.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 02:41 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Just went to get the mail out of the PO Box, and to the ATM to get some cash: Gloves and mask. Avoided going in until nobody else was there. Put the cash and mail in a plastic bag to sit for 4 days, along with the gloves. Wife and I are very familiar with sterile procedure.


That is basically what we've been doing (the gloves and mask part) but thankfully I ordered a UV-C lamp a while ago, so outside stuff gets put under the lamp for a couple of hours.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 04:45 PM


A plane has five passengers on board: Donald Trump, the Pope, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Hillary Clinton, and Greta Thunberg

The plane is about to crash and there are only 4 parachutes.

Dr Fauci: “I need one! I have to help develop a cure for the global health crisis that is Covid-19!”
He takes one and jumps.

The Pope: “I need one! I have to help spiritually guide people through the global health crisis that is Covid-19!”
He takes one and jumps.

Donald Trump: ‘‘I need one! I’m the smartest man in the USA!”
He takes one and jumps.

Hillary Clinton says to Greta Thunberg, "You take the last parachute. My public life is over and yours has only begun.”

Greta Thunberg: "Don’t worry, there are two parachutes left. The smartest man in the USA took my backpack."

smile

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 04:58 PM

A plane has five passengers on board on the day before Election Day: Donald Trump, the Pope, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Glenn Greenwald and Joe Biden.
The plane is about to crash and there are only 4 parachutes.

Dr Fauci: “I need one! I have to help develop a cure for the global health crisis that is Covid-19!”
He takes one and jumps.

The Pope: “I need one! I have to help spiritually guide people through the global health crisis that is Covid-19!”
He takes one and jumps.

Donald Trump: ‘‘I need one! I’m the smartest man in the USA!”
He takes one and jumps.

Glenn Greenwald secretly hides the last parachute and gives Joe Biden his backpack, then jumps with the last remaining parachute so that he can survive and scream at everyone for being neoliberals while Trump enjoys a second term and then names himself President For Life.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/28/20 05:11 PM

What the world needs now...

Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 04:12 AM

And my job has been deemed "essential".

So no 2 week vacation for me.
Posted by: chunkstyle

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 05:15 AM

Poor Biden. He should have drove one of those ‘vehicles of change’ instead of flying.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 05:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
And my job has been deemed "essential".

So no 2 week vacation for me.

i'm working from home. Have to "check-in" hourly via a Google Doc and input what I did the previous hour. Have a daily department conference call at 11:30 a.m. I have to send my manager a "good morning" and "good evening" email when I start work and end work.

I'd rather be back at the office, thanks.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 06:27 AM

Well, I'm going to be more active, now, as I just got banned from that "other" place. Yeah, me. Rational, humorous, even-keeled, little old me.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 09:38 AM

What were you banned for, having actual thoughts? Using facts? Being from another tribe?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 01:15 PM

Honestly, I believe it was because I'm from a different tribe than the moderator involved. That, of course, was not the excuse used. I made a joke about Trump, but I invoked a moderator's name who was participating in the thread.

The moderator in question was complaining in the thread about derisive language being used against the president. (She swears she's not a fan, all evidence to the contrary.) One of the other posters pointed out that Trump uses derisive language against perceived opponents:
Quote:
And calling him a snake, lol. :roll:

What a petty, vindictive, low-brow, small man we have for a prez.
---End Quote---
Don't tell that to *nota*, she'll have to give him a penalty for ad hominem attacks against the Governors. Oh wait...
The last was my comment.

I was dinged for "discussing moderator's actions in a forum". Now, in any rational world, what is the object of the joke? Is it "moderator's actions," or the language of the president?
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 01:57 PM

I have "known" many right wing (im)moderators who are rabid free speech freedom fighters (for the rights of their favorite propagandists) who yet see their status as Lord and Master of the Blog as giving them the pure right to authoritarian censorship. The irony is always lost on them.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 02:04 PM

Hell, I even got banned from a leftie blog for getting too witty with the dimwits! Tolerance is not generally a top human quality.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 02:36 PM

Not to disrupt the discussion, but I've been working remotely with a smart phone and I-pad for about three weeks. Got an email from corporate last Monday saying we had until midnight Tuesday to get anything out of our office so I go in and get my laptop, which generally stays docked. I have converted my man cave into a corona work cave- complete with desk, putting green and dart board. HDTV of course. Needless to say, my putting stroke has improve exponentially and a dart in my hand is no longer a weapon of mass destruction!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 03:14 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Well, I'm going to be more active, now, as I just got banned from that "other" place. Yeah, me. Rational, humorous, even-keeled, little old me.

Fascists are gonna be Fascists. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 03:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamlish Howl
The moderator in question was complaining in the thread about derisive language being used against the president.

Rightwingers are such snowflakes. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 03:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamlish Howl
And calling him a snake, lol. :roll:

What a petty, vindictive, low-brow, small man we have for a prez.

Small fingered orange vulgarian works for me. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
...and a dart in my hand is no longer a weapon of mass destruction!

I'm sure Mrs. Live appreciates fewer holes in the dry wall too. smile
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 05:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Not to disrupt the discussion, but I've been working remotely with a smart phone and I-pad for about three weeks. Got an email from corporate last Monday saying we had until midnight Tuesday to get anything out of our office so I go in and get my laptop, which generally stays docked. I have converted my man cave into a corona work cave- complete with desk, putting green and dart board. HDTV of course. Needless to say, my putting stroke has improve exponentially and a dart in my hand is no longer a weapon of mass destruction!
Now THAT is using your time productively!
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 06:22 PM

Used to ride a dirt bike for fun. Love golf too. I'm older now and couldn't keep from acting a fool on the bike. Can't ride a bike forever, but I figure I can play golf as long as my health holds up. I was one tree away from screwing up my golf forever so I sold all toys and am sticking to golf- and darts. Practicing my hobbies while working ain't a bad life. Actually, golf is still doable. Ya have 4/group, you're outside and you can do the social distancing thing- provided everyone has their own cart. I would put fishing in with relatively safe activities as well. but me no fish.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 07:12 PM

Golf carts really changed the nature of the game. Used to be you had to walk the full course. Rich guys got a caddy to carry their clubs, but you still had to walk. Now you can just lash your portable oxygen tank on the cart and hobble around. I wonder when the'll put IV poles on all the carts? I played just long enough to get a hole in one. Figured I couldn't improve on that, so I never went back.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/29/20 11:41 PM

Oh, I've seen the oxygen tanks, no IV's yet. Just figure life expectancy was better on a golf course than on a dirt bike. BTW, there are still many that walk and carry, or walk and pull a cart. It's really good exercise.
On a serious note, My sister, who has been in the music business in Nashville for years, just texted me that John Prine's family has just gone public that he is in critical condition with signs of the C virus. Think I completely wore out at least three cassette tapes of "Prime Prine" in middle and high school. His anthology is my favorite though. My thoughts go out to the poet.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 12:20 AM

Quote:
John Prine's family has just gone public that he is in critical condition with signs of the C virus.

That's some of the worst news I've heard in a long time.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 12:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
That's some of the worst news I've heard in a long time.

Sheesh! At least he has clear instructions for passing...

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 06:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Used to ride a dirt bike for fun. Love golf too. I'm older now and couldn't keep from acting a fool on the bike. Can't ride a bike forever, but I figure I can play golf as long as my health holds up. I was one tree away from screwing up my golf forever so I sold all toys and am sticking to golf- and darts. Practicing my hobbies while working ain't a bad life. Actually, golf is still doable. Ya have 4/group, you're outside and you can do the social distancing thing- provided everyone has their own cart. I would put fishing in with relatively safe activities as well. but me no fish.
No fishing for me. I've got two bikes, one a big roadie, and one a small dual sport. Greger got a chance to meet Blackie, the little one, because the only way to get to his place was down a sand road. I am going through my toys, reluctantly, as I try to start removing things from my life that I don't use, and have to admit I won't anymore - like my skis. I haven't golfed in a few years. No excuse, just haven't. I've been a serial obsessive, so I have gear for just about everything that I "got into" - scuba, softball, golf, bowling, motorcycling, skiing. One by one, they'll have to be abandoned.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 02:00 PM

Yeah, I used to be in to road bikes. Last one was an Ultra Classic. In 04, me and three friends left west Tennessee for the west coast. We got to San Francisco as fast as we could, spent a couple days seeing the sites, then picked up Hwy 1. What a ride. rode all the way up to Washington state (101 at that point I think), then headed east to Rapid City for the rally in Sturgis. finally got back. it was a 5862 mile walk about and I completely wore out a brand new rear tire- due to Hwy 1. I sat on my ass every way a man can. Sold it a year later and went back to my roots- the dirt bike- KTM-250. I used to ride with a group of guys that hair scramble in a league here. I just thought I could ride.... Anyway, it's gone now. No more toys for Livetoride, just my golf clubs.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 02:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Prine just passed. RIP John Prine. Your music will play at my memorial, that's written in stone and my girls won't let me down. God he was a great story teller.


I am hopeful that the news of his passing was false, as I've heard nothing on the news yet. I did get a text last night, but it wasn't from a family member. I have seen the statement the family put out about him being in critical care due to CV though.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 03:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Prine just passed. RIP John Prine. Your music will play at my memorial, that's written in stone and my girls won't let me down. God he was a great story teller.


I am hopeful that the news of his passing was false, as I've heard nothing on the news yet. I did get a text last night, but it wasn't from a family member. I have seen the statement the family put out about him being in critical care due to CV though.


I just found out that the news about Prine might be premature, but it will be a miracle of the highest order if he survives.
Livetoride, I'm going to put an EDIT on the obit just as a prayer that he makes it.
And if he doesn't, I'll remove the EDIT, hope that you don't mind.
So glad to see you here at The Rant again, by the way.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 03:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Prine just passed. RIP John Prine. Your music will play at my memorial, that's written in stone and my girls won't let me down. God he was a great story teller.


I am hopeful that the news of his passing was false, as I've heard nothing on the news yet. I did get a text last night, but it wasn't from a family member. I have seen the statement the family put out about him being in critical care due to CV though.


I just found out that the news about Prine might be premature, but it will be a miracle of the highest order if he survives.
Livetoride, I'm going to put an EDIT on the obit just as a prayer that he makes it.
And if he doesn't, I'll remove the EDIT, hope that you don't mind.
So glad to see you here at The Rant again, by the way.


Yes, please do. I posted earlier that I had hopes that the news was false. You are correct, given his pre-existing condition(s), it would take a miracle.
Thanks for the kind words. It has been a while. Working from home does have its perks, but cabin fever is a bitch!
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 06:17 PM

Texas Lt. Governor offered to sacrifice himself for the economy.
Quote:
“You know, Tucker, no one reached out to me and said, ‘As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?’” Patrick said. “And if that’s the exchange, I’m all in.”
My son had the perfect response: "If you're willing to die for the economy, how about something less drastic - like a universal basic income."
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 09:54 PM


I was sharing with an acquaintance my favorite Ronald Reagan story:

When Reagan was Governor of California, some Black Panthers were open carrying assault rifles around Sack o' tomatoes (Sacramento). Low-and-behold, assault rifles were banned in California.

Now, suppose the African American community did America a solid and starting open carrying assault rifles on the daily. How soon would the good ol' white patriarchs in red states ban assault rifles?

smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 10:16 PM

Quote:
Texas Lt. Governor offered to sacrifice himself for the economy.

I'm all in on old White Republicans politicians committing suicide on national TV to appease God somehow. Who knows, it might work. Of course, various economists have figured out an average human live is worth about 10 million dollars. So maybe we want to start at the top and work our way down, so we do the minimal amount of economic harm to the economy. Assuming that's what we are trying for, right?

The Lt. Governor and Glen Beck have volunteered to go first.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/30/20 11:10 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Quote:
Texas Lt. Governor offered to sacrifice himself for the economy.

I'm all in on old White Republicans politicians committing suicide on national TV to appease God somehow.


Ya know 0n December 26th, 2004 I read on this site from a Ham radio operator of a massive earthquake along the Pacific Rim. It was not on the news, I heard about it here first. (Don't recall the handle of the ranter back then) I believe that was on a Saturday so I went to church the next day- nothing. News had broke that hundreds were missing and feared dead. when it finally got real, the numbers climbed into the thousands.I decided to give church one more try- preacher said nothing. Meanwhile, a couple of very right wing Baptist preachers went public about why all those thousands of people were suddenly swept away- that area was a hot spot for homosexual couples and god was punishing them. That's when I lost my religion- if one can call a Methodist religious..... But if PIA's post is accurate, I might just start praying again. Have at it Lt Gov.
...And that's all I have to say about that!
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 12:16 AM

Evangelicals are in a no-win situation here: Most of them went along with Trump's BS claims, so in turn they denied the virus even existed, claimed it was a Democratic plot against Trump, claimed it was just like the flu, claimed there were just 15 cases in America to be zero soon, claimed it was all under control, claimed God would protect them, etc. One preacher even had his congregation all get down and lick the floor.

Now they are expected to join the Mammon-worshipers and sacrifice themselves for the sake of the stock market. Wasn't it Jesus who drove the moneymen out of the temple? Is that why he ended up on the cross? Come on guys, how many commandments do you have to break before you see you are following a minion of Satan?
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 12:48 AM

They'll just move on the next snake oil salesman without a word. They always seem to be looking for a new savior, a second coming, a true prophet for our times...the kind that the Bible tells them is always false.

A Tampa megachurch pastor was arrested today for holding services after being warned not to...
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 01:42 AM

I wish there was a hell. First thing I'd do is kick the televangelist's ass- plus Rush... But I don't believe in hell anymore than I believe in Heaven... Just me....
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 01:44 AM

Everybody needs to watch this. The first half is a little clunky but then the sh*t gets real.

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 02:13 AM

Quote:
But I don't believe in hell anymore than I believe in Heaven

I don't either, other than the Heaven or Hell we make on Earth. But THEY do. That's why I think it's fair to point out stuff in their Bible that Jesus said, that they ignore.

As Gandhi said: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians."
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 02:56 AM

I was a little disappointed he failed to mention that comparing between the average vitamin D level of < 25 in Americans to somewhere in the 40-60 range, you get a 70% benefit in avoiding pulmonary infections. D modulates the immune response responsible for ARDS, along with a whole slew of other good things. It actually interacts with every cell in the body, because they all have Vitamin D receptors. It interacts with over 2000 different genes!

Everything he had to say was true, but there's a lot more information out there. The MedCram videos on YouTube are very detailed, and yet start from a pretty basic understanding of Biology. Dr. John Campbell videos on YouTube are very informative at a basic level for non-medical people. But I have to admit, this guy was pretty funny. No F-bombs or stories about pimps on the other videos.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 03:16 AM

Much oblidged Greger. Sharing now... my wife facebooks...
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 03/31/20 04:01 AM

I decided to just go ahead and believe what I wanted to believe. It's not like it makes much difference whether you believe in something or don't believe in something.

My people don't have a lot of rules and commandments. We have eight words.

If it harm none, do what ye will.

We also have something we call the rule of three. What you give comes back threefold. Be it good or bad.

Beyond that...pick a pantheon and have fun!
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 12:21 AM

Had to run out and re-fill my meds today. Pharmacy is 30 minutes away in my home town. Being shut in like this, I am appreciative of the drive. I am an NPR junkie. Satellite radio is a must for me, as I usually travel for work. On the way back I was thrilled that Terry Gross, (Fresh Air) interviewed one of my favorite authors, Professor Bart Ehrman of UNC. I am an Ehrman fan. He is a stud when it comes to religious studies.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 05:42 PM



585578 is the actual item number for Kirkland Signature Bath Tissue. smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 06:29 PM

I don't understand the American fixation on toilet paper. I think it all has to do with our toilet training. We learned to use TP, and therefor anything else is unthinkable. Some would rather just burst their colon than do it without TP.

News, folks: Most of the human race does not have any TP. And they manage just fine. We used to: Remember the old timers talking about the Sears catalog nailed to the outhouse wall? You got reading material AND hygiene, all in one. Do you have a newspaper subscription? Is there a shower right next to the toilet?
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 09:42 PM

POTUS just started his news conference, may I suggest AMC- they're showing Ace Ventura, Pet Detective. Both are comedies, at least one is funny....
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 10:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
POTUS just started his news conference, may I suggest AMC- they're showing Ace Ventura, Pet Detective. Both are comedies, at least one is funny....


If you use any kind of social media, the hashtag #BoycottTrumpBriefings is trending, and you can use it in a message to all the major networks, like

Quote:
@MSNBC @CBSNews @ABC @CNN - I won't tune in as long as you're broadcasting Trump's phony "press conferences".
#BoycottTrumpBriefings
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 11:03 PM

This is the only thing I do, and as you can see, haven't done a whole lot in the last sixteen and a half years. What, 600 posts give or take? You saying anything I post here is captured by social media?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 11:09 PM

I see a tractor-trailer on a Texas highway hauling a load of toilet paper crashed and burned today. Oh No! Must have been a million dollars worth!

Major Catastrophe
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/01/20 11:13 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I don't understand the American fixation on toilet paper. I think it all has to do with our toilet training. We learned to use TP, and therefor anything else is unthinkable. Some would rather just burst their colon than do it without TP.

News, folks: Most of the human race does not have any TP. And they manage just fine. We used to: Remember the old timers talking about the Sears catalog nailed to the outhouse wall? You got reading material AND hygiene, all in one. Do you have a newspaper subscription? Is there a shower right next to the toilet?

I've been bidet shopping. Looks interesting! Could pay for one in toilet paper savings...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/02/20 02:36 PM

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/02/20 07:05 PM

They do sell some little bidet sprays that come out from under the seat, when you turn them on. That way you don't have to buy a whole separate bidet throne or find room for it in your bathroom. You just need to tap into the water supply under the sink, and you might want some mixing control so it's not too hot or cold.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/02/20 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
They do sell some little bidet sprays that come out from under the seat, when you turn them on. That way you don't have to buy a whole separate bidet throne or find room for it in your bathroom. You just need to tap into the water supply under the sink, and you might want some mixing control so it's not too hot or cold.


Daughter got one and we're ordering the same thing.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/02/20 08:20 PM

Here's the high-horsepower Binford 4000:


ouch
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/03/20 12:00 PM

More Power! As Tim (The Tool Man) Taylor (Tim Allen) would say.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/03/20 11:22 PM

Been working on the backyard fence as a social distancing hobby. It needed upgrading in order to keep the chickens and the Sulcata tortoise in, and the deer, coyotes, and javelina out.

Since I'm a dedicated CharMan I decided that instead of spending a thousand $mackers on high dollar exterior wood finish, I'd char the pine boards instead. It's easy to do and I'll get the whole fence done on about $30 worth of propane with a weed burner, in about 1/4 the time, too. Two things about charring wood for a finish; the char is a coating and a preservative; and the wood layer under the char is torrefied, which also reduces its susceptibility to weathering and rot.

Charring as a wood finish
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/05/20 01:48 AM

Drove to home town today, just to get out. Called a buddy that works for that county to say hello and ended up helping him unload 11- 5 gallon buckets of hand sanitizer. Came out to be a little north of $27 per gallon. reasonable I thought. I'll bet you folks have heard way worse stories.
Jesus, I filled up my Jeep there for less than $25.00, and it was way close to empty. Think it was $1.38.9 per gallon. (what's with the .9 anyway) Only took a global pandemic to get us below $2.00 per gallon... I know, I know, OPEC vs Putin... Pandemic does have a voice in the decrease in petro though- a big voice..
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/05/20 02:51 AM

>charring as wood finish

Of course, your fire insurance company could think it's a bit suspect.

We had to go with California's fire insurance of last resort, when all the insurers decided not to cover anyone in the high fire danger area. They just did it by zip code and city limits. Never looked at our five acres cleared around the house. So the FAIR plan is a pool of those insurance companies that want to do business in the state, and the rates are based on actual fire danger, so we have a lower premium then we used to! They do send an inspector out to look at your house and objectively rate it so they can raise your rates if necessary. Our inspector came several days after California went on shutdown, so he just took one snapshot of the front of the house and that was it. I guess it proves he was here.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/05/20 03:19 PM




Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/05/20 06:43 PM

This gonna be my new ride! The RadBurro commercial delivery trike. Street and trail legal! Made in Seattle, I think. It's got plenty of power to get me around my hilly little town.

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/05/20 07:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
This gonna be my new ride! The RadBurro commercial delivery trike. Street and trail legal! Made in Seattle, I think. It's got plenty of power to get me around my hilly little town.



I've thought of getting a little scooter instead of another car.
I barely drive even twenty-thirty miles a week these days, even before the CV19 crisis. Ever since my camera eye (right eye) got that second floater I've been pretty much sidelined as a cinematographer, so I don't drive much except for groceries and errands.

Part of me just wants to get an old classic clunker and enjoy it and part of me thinks it's a silly idea, and that a scooter might be much more practical.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/05/20 07:18 PM



Nice Greger!!! Yes Mike Radenbaugh is from Seattle when he built his first eBike to get back and forth from High School. I've always said that great inventions were born out of laziness. Hmm

That electric RadBurro sounds like a great idea for schlepping around town. smile
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 12:21 AM

Anyone else watching this incoherent babble? Please Mr president, crawl back into the tanning bed and let intelligent people figure this out. Embarrassing.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 12:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Anyone else watching this incoherent babble? Please Mr president, crawl back into the tanning bed and let intelligent people figure this out. Embarrassing.

Hell NO!!! That guy is a hot mess!!! mad
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 11:34 AM

Blathering Idiot.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 04:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Anyone else watching this incoherent babble? Please Mr president, crawl back into the tanning bed and let intelligent people figure this out. Embarrassing.


If you're tuned in LIVE, and you have cable or satellite, the networks are counting you as tuned in, and that tells them that Trump is getting high ratings.
Trump is using these conferences as Trump rallies.
He's even boasting about his high ratings, in the middle of a humanitarian disaster.
So do not tune in live, change the channel to anything BUT the Trump presser, and hopefully the networks will realize that the ratings are LOW, and they will begin to curtail these sh!t shows.
You can always tune in later when the news reruns the relevant clips, which they do, faithfully.

#DontAirTrump
#BoycottTrumpBriefings
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 06:24 PM

Quote:
crawl back into the tanning bed...


It's not a tan, it's makeup. He got used to having his makeup 'done" as a reality star, but is too cheap and amateurish to hire his own makeup artist for presidential appearances.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 09:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Livetoride
Anyone else watching this incoherent babble? Please Mr president, crawl back into the tanning bed and let intelligent people figure this out. Embarrassing.


If you're tuned in LIVE, and you have cable or satellite, the networks are counting you as tuned in, and that tells them that Trump is getting high ratings.
Trump is using these conferences as Trump rallies.
He's even boasting about his high ratings, in the middle of a humanitarian disaster.
So do not tune in live, change the channel to anything BUT the Trump presser, and hopefully the networks will realize that the ratings are LOW, and they will begin to curtail these sh!t shows.
You can always tune in later when the news reruns the relevant clips, which they do, faithfully.

#DontAirTrump
#BoycottTrumpBriefings

Agreed, but the idiotic statements/ramblings are better entertainment that anything the networks offer. "The Simpsons, Futurama" and that other s*** show just don't get it for me. Point well taken though.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 09:59 PM

"The Office" is on Comedy Channel now. All the comedy without the hurt and emptiness.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 11:09 PM

I was thinking about getting Neflix again so I could stream The Witcher. They tell me it sticks to the books more than the games and I'm cool with that, I'd like to see the author rake in some zlotys because he didn't take the games seriously and sold the rights for nothing.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/06/20 11:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Livetoride

Agreed, but the idiotic statements/ramblings are better entertainment that anything the networks offer. "The Simpsons, Futurama" and that other s*** show just don't get it for me. Point well taken though.


All I am saying is, wait till daily viewing becomes mandatory, via a social credit system similar to China's. Not tuned in? Oh well, your score just dropped ten points.
Want a better job? Permission to travel? Buy a nicer place?
Your social credit score determines all.

This is happening now overseas.
It starts with loyalty tests, and the first loyalty test reward system is our own TV ratings. Trump is bragging about how high his presser ratings are.
That's happening now, too.

So all one must do is hold off till he's off the air and hang on till the news re-runs them. Then the news show gets the ratings, instead of Trump.

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 04:24 AM


I said I would never get a Smart Phone until the plan price point was $15.00/month. In the meantime, I'll just use my flip phone. Besides, strangers out there are more than willing to look something up for me when I show them my flip phone - so I really didn't need a Smart Phone. Hmm

Even though I said I wouldn't pull the trigger until $15.00/month, I acquiesced and said if the plans go to $20.00/month I'll do it.

Right now I pay $12.00/month for my flip on ATT. laugh

Welp, Consumer Cellular had a commercial over the weekend for $20.00/month 250 mins talk / 500MB data. I was about to get it when a friend of mine who has Cricket said go look at Cricket. So I did...and they have a $15.00/mo 2GB data plan with $5.00/month discount for auto-pay...so $10.00/month out the door. Such a deal!!!!! Bow No...seriously...such a deal!!!!!! smile

So I will be joining the ranks of you Smart Phone peeps when Cricket sends me the brand-new iPhone7 in the next day or two. cool
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 04:28 AM

Yeah I wish I could migrate over to one of the old-folks services like Consumer or Cricket but I find I still need my unlimited data.
But 45 a month ain't bad.

Thing I'm griping about is, I don't want to give up my current phone with the removable battery, the removable SD card and all the ports (mine has HDMI out,earphone and USB) and the buttons.

Eventually it will die and I'll be forced to get a phone with NO buttons, a soldered in permanent battery and no ports.
Hate that...pay more for LESS.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 04:34 AM



Welp at work, I can join the Company network, so I don't need to use Cricket's data there, and at home I can use my router so I don't need Cricket's data at home.

And when I'm traipsing around the Sound, Xfinity has free wifi, so I won't need to use Cricket data when I'm out and about. I think I'm good with the plan I purchased. I did pay $199.00 for the iPhone7. Pro'lly coulda done better, but oh...well. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 04:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...I don't want to give up my current phone with the removable battery, the removable SD card and all the ports (mine has HDMI out,earphone and USB) and the buttons...

What phone is that? smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 08:01 AM

My wife and I have $15/month flips on my mom's Consumer Cellular unlimited data plan. She had one of their GrandPads that let me put in her allowed contacts and websites. Very nice for GrandMa's access once she is beyond the age that can detect scams and hustlers. Got to figure something else out now, because she died on Sunday.

My wife and I really hate smartphones: Too small with all those icons that have no labels. So we went back to $30 flip phones. I'll have to call Consumer Cellular tomorrow and see if we can change the plan around now that mom's gone.

BTW: Not Covid-19. Just all wore out.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 03:48 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
My wife and I have $15/month flips on my mom's Consumer Cellular unlimited data plan. She had one of their GrandPads that let me put in her allowed contacts and websites. Very nice for GrandMa's access once she is beyond the age that can detect scams and hustlers. Got to figure something else out now, because she died on Sunday.

My wife and I really hate smartphones: Too small with all those icons that have no labels. So we went back to $30 flip phones. I'll have to call Consumer Cellular tomorrow and see if we can change the plan around now that mom's gone.

BTW: Not Covid-19. Just all wore out.


I am so sorry to hear about your Mom passing.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 04:35 PM

Stephanie Grisham is out as White House Press Secretary

In NINE months, she never held a single press conference.
Now she's returning to her old position by Melania's side as her chief of staff and spokeswoman.
Be best!
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 05:29 PM

I use a smartphone. I'm clumsy and slow with it, I have huge hands and when I try to use the keyboard i press three keys at a time and it takes literally hours to type a brief text.

I can barely read anything on it without finding my strongest reading glasses. The font is set to "huge"...it isn't f*cking huge okay? It's tiny, it's like the fine print they always print the instructions for preparing packaged foods.

I can't use it at all while I'm driving. Gotta turn it on, unlock it, clear whatever screens you left up on it, tap the phone icon, tap the contacts button, scroll through the contacts, tap who you want to call, select phone or text....

I used to just grab the flip and mash two buttons without ever looking at it.

I'm trying to buy a Moto Z4 right now, upgrading from Moto G3. None are available. Probably made in China.

Jeffery you might like the Motorola lineup. They've got most of the features you want and their batteries are awesome.

I use Republic Wireless, they used to be the only ones that routed calls to wifi instead of cell towers. I've got no cell coverage out here so everything depends on wifi. I think all phones do that now...I dunno...?
They're $15 bucks a month and data's $5 a Gig.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
I am so sorry to hear about your Mom passing.

Ditto Bow
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Stephanie Grisham is out as White House Press Secretary

In NINE months, she never held a single press conference.
Now she's returning to her old position by Melania's side as her chief of staff and spokeswoman.
Be best!

How do you accept a paycheck for a job that you never performed. Sounds very swampy. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 07:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
...I have huge hands...

Oh...r-e-a-l-l-y, you don't say. I'll bet you've never had to pay like Donald Trump has... Hmm
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 09:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger


Jeffery you might like the Motorola lineup. They've got most of the features you want and their batteries are awesome.


Not if it's a flip phone.
I actually USE a lot of apps.
One of the apps I rely on the most is a handy codec guide for optimizing video for upload to YouTube, Vimeo, etc.

Another is a handy FTP directory with instructions on how to log on to trusted FTP sites. You have to get the logon and passwords from the owners but once you enter them they're all stored in one place.

Another is a ham radio programming widget that will program most modern handy-talkies for you so you don't have to manually enter 250 different frequencies.

Another is a built in spot lightmeter...no not nearly as good as a real light meter but for Mister Magoo, it's good enough.

Another fave is Keeper, which stores every password you will ever need. You can even extend Keeper to your browser!

There's a list of maybe 25 more but I'll spare you.
My non-pro fave is the built in TV/cable remote, which is a lifesaver if you can't find your remote in the middle of the night because your dog wanted to bury it in their bed across the room without letting you know.

I was actually kind of hopeful that SOMEONE would come out with a smartphone that had an HDMI INPUT so that you could feed it with whatever comes out of a modern camera, thus allowing you to use your phone as a portable livestreaming device but also allowing you to feed it with quality from a real camera.

Alas, looks like that's never going to happen! frown
Probably because there's already a ton of standalone portable livestream devices, but I just thought it would be nifty to combine it in a smartphone instead of lugging around another box.

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 09:52 PM

Thanks for the notes of sympathy, guys. Mom was 91, nonambulatory, and just plumb wore out. It was time to go. Glad it was peaceful with lots of help from Hospice. Now comes the interesting part, like moving all her stuff out of her assisted living apartment when the place is locked down. Fortunately, I do have a big storage locker a couple of miles away.
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 11:10 PM

Sorry man, right behind you I'm afraid. Tough to lose a mom.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/07/20 11:16 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Thanks for the notes of sympathy, guys. Mom was 91, nonambulatory, and just plumb wore out. It was time to go. Glad it was peaceful with lots of help from Hospice. Now comes the interesting part, like moving all her stuff out of her assisted living apartment when the place is locked down. Fortunately, I do have a big storage locker a couple of miles away.


My Mom made it to 92, and the first 90 years were jolly well okay.
After that came the broken hip and a lot of painful medical stuff that gradually wore her down and fried her brain. The slide was fast, and yet she held on for another year and a half.
Then one day her doctor informed her she needed another round of scary tests and procedures and she just flatly said "NO"...enough, basta.

DOCTOR: "Well, Mrs. Haas, if you don't do this, you're probably going to die."

Mrs. Haas: "Well, that's not a very nice thing to say but at least I will go with my head held high."

And that's pretty much what she did about six months later.
She had a wonderful life but she is missed terribly, as I am sure yours is, too.
Blessings on your whole family.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/09/20 11:55 AM


Trump/Pence 2020
We didn't even kill the whole 100,000!

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/09/20 02:30 PM


My shelter in place:


Day 1 – I Can Do This!! Got enough food and wine to last a month!
Day 2 – Opening my 8th bottle of Wine. I fear wine supplies might not last!
Day 3 – Strawberries: Some have 210 seeds, some have 235 seeds. Who Knew??
Day 4 – 8:00pm. Removed my Day Pajamas and put on my Night Pajamas.
Day 5 – Today, I tried to make Hand Sanitizer. It came out as Jello Shots!!
Day 6 – I get to take the Garbage out. I’m so excited, I can’t decide what to wear.
Day 7 – Laughing way too much at my own jokes!!
Day 8 – Went to a new restaurant called “The Kitchen”. You have to gather all the ingredients and make your own meal. I have No clue how this place is still in business.
Day 9 – I put liquor bottles in every room. Tonight, I’m getting all dressed up and going Bar hopping.
Day 10 – Struck up a conversation with a Spider today. Seems nice. He’s a Web Designer.
Day 11 – Isolation is hard. I swear my fridge just said, “What the hell do you want now?”
Day 12 – I realized why dogs get so excited about something moving outside, going for walks or car rides. I think I just barked at a squirrel.
Day 13 – If you keep a glass of wine in each hand, you can’t accidentally touch your face.
Day 14 – Anybody else feel like they’ve cooked dinner about 50 times this month?

smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/09/20 07:26 PM

stolen
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/09/20 10:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
stolen

It was being passed around the office today. smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 12:51 AM

I am going to omit a story too ticklish to tell, on account of the Vegas rule, but I am no longer at the other board.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 01:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I am going to omit a story too ticklish to tell, on account of the Vegas rule, but I am no longer at the other board.


Their loss, glad you're here!
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 01:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I am going to omit a story too ticklish to tell, on account of the Vegas rule, but I am no longer at the other board.


Their loss, glad you're here!


My brother is apparently bailing as well, which is hardly surprising. He's gonna reg here, watch your email for "Luce".
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 01:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I am going to omit a story too ticklish to tell, on account of the Vegas rule, but I am no longer at the other board.


Their loss, glad you're here!


My brother is apparently bailing as well, which is hardly surprising. He's gonna reg here, watch your email for "Luce".


I'll leave the light on.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 01:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
[quote=Hamish Howl]I am going to omit a story too ticklish to tell, on account of the Vegas rule, but I am no longer at the other board.


Their loss, glad you're here!


My brother is apparently bailing as well, which is hardly surprising. He's gonna reg here, watch your email for "Luce".


He makes me look wide-eyed and idealistic. But he's a cop, soooo...

(He's not a street monster, he's a homicide geek)
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 03:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
[quote=Hamish Howl]I am going to omit a story too ticklish to tell, on account of the Vegas rule, but I am no longer at the other board.


Their loss, glad you're here!


My brother is apparently bailing as well, which is hardly surprising. He's gonna reg here, watch your email for "Luce".


He makes me look wide-eyed and idealistic. But he's a cop, soooo...

(He's not a street monster, he's a homicide geek)


Doesn't matter. Tell him he is more than welcome here.
All he has to do is email me at dfspamboxfb (at) gmail (dot) com and say he's Luce, Hamish's bro from DP and I will add him immediately.
And tell him to hurry up and send that email. laugh
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 04:30 AM

I'll let him know, but I won't hear from him until Monday, because he and the wife are off "social distancing" in the mountains for the weekend.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 05:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
I'll let him know, but I won't hear from him until Monday, because he and the wife are off "social distancing" in the mountains for the weekend.

Oo-la-la!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 06:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
...he's a cop...

I love cops. smile
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 07:30 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
...he's a cop...

I love cops. smile
he and his wife, Rick, emphasis on "wife", dear. wink

Wait, did I just make an assumption it was his wife? Hamish didn't specify...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 02:58 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
...he's a cop...

I love cops. smile
he and his wife, Rick, emphasis on "wife", dear. wink

Wait, did I just make an assumption it was his wife? Hamish didn't specify...

Karen doesn't mind sharing Jeffrey. smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 02:59 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
...he's a cop...

I love cops. smile
he and his wife, Rick, emphasis on "wife", dear. wink

Wait, did I just make an assumption it was his wife? Hamish didn't specify...


Just checked...MY wife's still in the next room. Hmm
Just how HAWT is this brother of yours, Hamish? LOL

Rick, try to control yourself! ROTFMOL
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 03:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Rick, try to control yourself! ROTFMOL

As the resident gay boy, I have first dibs on masculine swarthy men. smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Rick, try to control yourself! ROTFMOL

As the resident gay boy, I have first dibs on masculine swarthy men. smile


Once upon a time you were just one of three if I remember correctly.
Gosh, Phil's actually been gone for...what is it now...three years already? frown
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 05:23 PM



I just saw a "Welcome to Kentucky" sign with 'Birthplace of Abraham Lincoln." What?!? Not born in Illinois? Hmm

Mr. Google says...yup, he was born in Hodgenville, KY. gobsmacked
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/11/20 06:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Once upon a time you were just one of three if I remember correctly.
Gosh, Phil's actually been gone for...what is it now...three years already? frown

Indeed, I'm now the token amongst the sea of heteromales on Reader Ran. While RR has female members, we don't have regular female posters. Hmm
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 06:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
...he's a cop...

I love cops. smile
he and his wife, Rick, emphasis on "wife", dear. wink

Wait, did I just make an assumption it was his wife? Hamish didn't specify...


Just checked...MY wife's still in the next room. Hmm
Just how HAWT is this brother of yours, Hamish? LOL

Rick, try to control yourself! ROTFMOL


Given that we're twins, I gotta say he's pretty damn hot.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 12:39 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


I just saw a "Welcome to Kentucky" sign with 'Birthplace of Abraham Lincoln." What?!? Not born in Illinois? Hmm

Mr. Google says...yup, he was born in Hodgenville, KY. gobsmacked


Yeah but Illinois will always be "The Land of Lincoln" at least until the SovCits force us all to use their fake license plates.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 12:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Given that we're twins, I gotta say he's pretty damn hot.

Oh, no... dry cough, too?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 02:00 PM

I'm a twin too! But we're fraternal, so I got all the looks...
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 02:13 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I'm a twin too! But we're fraternal, so I got all the looks...

All the funny looks?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 02:24 PM


University of Chicago study on empathy in rats

There is a growing body of research showing that animals respond to the emotions of others. But it wasn't certain whether rats could suppress their own greed in order to aid another rat.

Following a two-week introduction period, pairs of rats were put inside an arena. One was trapped inside a central restrainer, while the other roamed free in the larger space. By day six or seven, on average, the roaming rat learned to free the trapped rat.

When chocolate was introduced to the mix, there was no difference in the time taken to free the trapped cage-mate, despite pitting freeing the trapped cage-mate against getting a tasty treat. Furthermore, the helper rats did not eat all the chocolate chips. Instead, they often left a few chocolate chips for the trapped rats to eat upon release.



Clearly, Trumpers are not even as good as rats.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 02:34 PM

Do you suppose that Ol' Gut-fer-branes will make a good decision today about "re-opening America"?

https://images.dailykos.com/images/790413/story_image/Screenshot2020-04-11at6.22.58AM.png?1586611417
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 03:01 PM

Either empathy or the free rat wants to have sex with the trapped rat, while it's eating it's chocolate.

Seriously though, as anybody who has had a pet rat knows, rats are very friendly and social even with humans!
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 06:40 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

University of Chicago study on empathy in rats

There is a growing body of research showing that animals respond to the emotions of others. But it wasn't certain whether rats could suppress their own greed in order to aid another rat.

Following a two-week introduction period, pairs of rats were put inside an arena. One was trapped inside a central restrainer, while the other roamed free in the larger space. By day six or seven, on average, the roaming rat learned to free the trapped rat.

When chocolate was introduced to the mix, there was no difference in the time taken to free the trapped cage-mate, despite pitting freeing the trapped cage-mate against getting a tasty treat. Furthermore, the helper rats did not eat all the chocolate chips. Instead, they often left a few chocolate chips for the trapped rats to eat upon release.


Clearly, Trumpers are not even as good as rats.


Cooperation is a successful strategy.

A lone wolf is in short order a dead wolf.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 10:57 PM

Quote:
A lone wolf is in short order a dead wolf.


A single rat is inconsequential, it's kinda cute and doesn't eat much.

A pack of rats gets the exterminator called and all the rats die.

Just speaking from personal experience.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/12/20 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Quote:
A lone wolf is in short order a dead wolf.


A single rat is inconsequential, it's kinda cute and doesn't eat much.

A pack of rats gets the exterminator called and all the rats die.

Just speaking from personal experience.


It's successful for the rats. Which is kind of my point.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 12:49 AM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I'm a twin too! But we're fraternal, so I got all the looks...

All the funny looks?

Pretty much.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 07:07 AM

If we could just convince them the One Child Policy is best policy.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 01:30 PM

Has anybody else noticed that the air is cleaner where you live? New Mexico is famous for stunningly clear air, which is what attracted O'Keefe and Stieglitz to permanently move from the East Coast to northern NM and the Ghost Ranch. There has been many a time that I thought of that and wondered if I was having the same experience they did, as the views were rarely what I would consider "stunning".

On Saturday I was out for a little hike in the Burro Mountains and was truly stunned by the clarity and vivid colors of the landscape - like nothing I had ever seen before. And this morning's sunrise struck me the same way.

Incredible...
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 04:44 PM

I live in the swamp, the air is always thick and steamy here. There are notes of rotting vegetation and if a breeze should stir there is sometimes the scent of a skunk ape or the foetid stench of a swamp dragons lair. There is no high point where I could achieve a clear view of my surroundings but it is unlikely the miasma that lays over my world has cleared to any degree.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 05:15 PM

Good example of "compare and contrast".
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 06:58 PM

It's a pretty groovy place for an old swamp pellar. They're making me move to the village soon. They say I can't be trusted out here alone.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/13/20 10:48 PM

We just had days and days of rain. I got a washtub on my porch and the damned thing is full of rain water just in the last week. Who says it never rains in Southern California. Anyway, after a good rain, I can see Santa Catalina from end to end, and even San Clemente Island (55 miles away). I can also see the snow on Mounts San Jacinto and San Gorgonio (about 60 miles away).
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/14/20 12:43 AM

So my cousin got my grandfather's WWII records declassified from the Canadian government, given that the secrets act has expired.

My grandfather had told us that he trained soldiers from 1942 to 1944, then "helped clean up the mess." It turns out that meant he worked on cracking death camps and rounding up guards and SS men for trial. He was almost unique, it turns out, in that none of his charges had "accidents", and they all lived to meet the hangman. Which fits, my grandfather was a very cold-blooded man.

We also found out I have one more aunt than I thought, since my grandfather did a little [censored] around in England in 44. We just received an email reply from this new aunt, and it turns out that I have a bag of cousins and an even bigger bag of their kids and grandkids we never knew we had. So, you know, my family just got bigger, and that's more than okay.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/14/20 01:43 AM


Trump's $1,200.00 socialism check was deposited into my account today. smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/14/20 11:50 AM

Sweet!

Wisconsin Voter Suppression Backfires

The Republican attempt to suppress the vote in Wisconsin failed to recognize that motivated urban Democrats denied mail ballots will go stand in line for hours to vote, while a lot of rural Republicans who wanted to vote by mail won't go stand in line. Republicans shot themselves in both feet since now they are all about blatant voter suppression and the state supreme court judge they wanted to win has been defeated anyway.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/14/20 05:38 PM

Boy howdy, if oil prices sink much lower, Exxon-Mobil might have to lay off some members of Congress.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/14/20 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Boy howdy, if oil prices sink much lower, Exxon-Mobil might have to lay off some members of Congress.


Bow ROTFMOL
Posted by: Livetoride

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/14/20 10:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Boy howdy, if oil prices sink much lower, Exxon-Mobil might have to lay off some members of Congress.


I absolutely love that comment..... Much obliged.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 01:57 AM


If you're getting a $1,200 Trump socialism check instead of direct deposit, those checks will begin to be mailed in three weeks. Why the delay? Fatass Trump wants his name on the check.

Quote:
“You are getting your money late because the President thinks it is more important that his name be on the check than that you are able to pay your bills on time,” Schatz tweeted. “This is not a rhetorical flourish. The checks are delayed. Because Trump.”


Let this sink in...Americans desperate for their check have to wait so that Trump can make his socialism checks vanity checks to himself.

You can't make that stuff up.

smile
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 04:13 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

If you're getting a $1,200 Trump socialism check instead of direct deposit, those checks will begin to be mailed in three weeks. Why the delay? Fatass Trump wants his name on the check.

Quote:
“You are getting your money late because the President thinks it is more important that his name be on the check than that you are able to pay your bills on time,” Schatz tweeted. “This is not a rhetorical flourish. The checks are delayed. Because Trump.”


Let this sink in...Americans desperate for their check have to wait so that Trump can make his socialism checks vanity checks to himself.

You can't make that stuff up.

smile


A lot of people are going to be Photoshopping a lot of checks, and it's going to be hilarious.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 11:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Boy howdy, if oil prices sink much lower, Exxon-Mobil might have to lay off some members of Congress.

Some days working from home, some days working from the office. When I work in the office, I use the van for the vanpool and pick up one other rider - just the two of use...social distancing. smile

Anyway, I filled-up the van yesterday and got a wash. Gas was $2.29. I was all...what? shocked
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 11:32 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Sweet!

Wisconsin Voter Suppression Backfires

The Republican attempt to suppress the vote in Wisconsin failed to recognize that motivated urban Democrats denied mail ballots will go stand in line for hours to vote, while a lot of rural Republicans who wanted to vote by mail won't go stand in line. Republicans shot themselves in both feet since now they are all about blatant voter suppression and the state supreme court judge they wanted to win has been defeated anyway.

Karma...those rat basturd RepubliCONS deserve it. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 11:54 AM


According to Trump's subcontractors who have worked on Fatass' properties, checks with Donald Trump's name on them usually bounce.

gobsmacked
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 12:01 PM



"No one knows more about 'Mutiny on the Bounty' than me."
- Fatass Trump

Except for the whole plot. We all know that Fatso is illiterate, but Fatso can't even process what he's watching.

rolleyes
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 03:55 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

According to Trump's subcontractors who have worked on Fatass' properties, checks with Donald Trump's name on them usually bounce.

gobsmacked


You only get a check that's really good for 130 thousand bucks if you swallow.

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 04:24 PM

I bet every con man in America is going to start printing up Donald Trump checks soon. Now that they have his signature, they can create any kind of fake contract, executive order, rape confession, etc. they want.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 05:53 PM

I bet there will be some very funny Photoshop efforts coming soon.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 06:26 PM

The really scary part about Trump wanting HIS NAME on the Coronavirus Recovery Checks is...
(wait for it...)

Oh come on you people, you could have guessed this one!
Checks with Trump's name on them always BOUNCE! ROTFMOL
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 07:16 PM

Yea, however the real reason is it is free advertising and personal aggrandizement. Also, it is his nature to put his name on everything and not spend a dime of his own money to do so. All the while claiming all the credit.

p.s. Monsieur President Donald (...) Trump*, it may not look like a mushroom, I hear it is a toadstool.

*Impeached
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/15/20 08:06 PM

Quote:
While wealthy Americans are not eligible for the comparatively measly $1,200 stimulus checks that are now being disbursed to many Americans, they are on pace to do even better. 43,000 taxpayers, who earn more than $1 million annually, are each set to receive a $1.7 million windfall, on average, thanks to a provision buried in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act.

LIMK
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/16/20 12:14 PM

Quote:
“Mr. President, why did you have your name added to these coronavirus relief checks?”

- ABC News’ Jon Karl asked, point blank.


Quote:
“Well, I don’t know too much about it, but I understand my name is there,” Trump said, claiming ignorance about almost everything related to the checks — except the specific detail that adding his signature has not held up their delivery. “I don’t know where they’re going, how they’re going. I do understand it’s not delaying anything. And I’m satisfied with that."

- Fatass Trump lying his ass off

Fatass doesn't remember how his signature got on the check to Stormy Daniels either. coffee
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/16/20 11:39 PM

He wouldn't bother making a public statement if it wasn't to push a lie.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/17/20 02:18 PM



Covid-19 protesters in Michigan, protesting the restrictive stay-at-home orders. Anyone surprised? coffee

Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/17/20 03:12 PM

I see they're safely distancing.

Can you get the Trump Pence Swastika banner from the campaign website?
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/17/20 05:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
I see they're safely distancing.

Can you get the Trump Pence Swastika banner from the campaign website?

Seems like they could come up with an original flag design, something they could call their own.

Maybe an artistic blend of the Confederate flag and a Swastika.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/17/20 05:59 PM

You know, uber patriotic!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/19/20 12:09 AM


Such a Republican - say one thing, do another. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/20/20 01:28 AM



I wrote Photbucket and asked...WTF about my account? Why are images not showing on this premium account?

Hmm
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/21/20 01:23 PM

I forget which state is deeming massage and tattoo parlors as essential businesses but I eagerly await the HowTo videos that show us how to get a massage or a tattoo while employing social distancing.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/21/20 01:34 PM

Long needles could be a solution for tattooing.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/21/20 03:36 PM

Good morning to another day of coronaliving! Yesterday we had a nice visit with a friend delivering custom masks for my wife and I. We practiced social distancing and still managed to share wine and cheese on the porch. We each had our own plates and glasses, and we didn't touch the bottle. I prepared the food in a sterile environment, after washing and gowning. So, we shared the sunshine and the latest events from a safe distance. The wine, by the way, was excellent.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/21/20 07:25 PM

I hope you treated the masks with the same care. I think 24 hours of non-contact should be enough for natural fabrics. Synthetic might be a bit longer. All this means is you put the masks in a safe container, and then go wash your hands. 24 hours later, it's safe to put them on and use them.

Huffpost has a story about the effectiveness of different mask materials. And don't forget, wearing masks doesn't protect you from infected people coughing or sneezing. It protects others from you!

If you need protection, the best is to stay home and avoid delivered items and mail until it has sat around for a day or two. If you do have to go out, keep social distance from people in masks and stay far away from people without them. Wear eye protection. Eyeballs are very susceptible. Never touch your mask until you get home, and then treat the outside of it as if it is contaminated. Remove it, put it in it's container, wash your hands, and then shower and wash your hair. Disinfect anything you touched while out.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/21/20 11:27 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
The wine, by the way, was excellent.

All I know is I didn't get any... frown
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/22/20 02:45 AM



My kitchen after I made chicken cacciatore tonight. coffee

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/22/20 04:03 PM

OMG! How many victims, Rick?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/22/20 04:05 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
The wine, by the way, was excellent.

All I know is I didn't get any... frown
Come by my house, it's only a couple of thousand miles. I guarantee, good wine and good conversation. I'll even provide a mask and disinfectant.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/22/20 04:07 PM

Watched a very thought-provoking movie last night: An Inspector Calls. Perfect for our current situation.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/23/20 05:17 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
OMG! How many victims, Rick?

Just four chicken thighs.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/23/20 05:18 AM



Need a smile?

Step 1: Go to Google.com
Step 2: Type in "idiot" in the search bar.
Step 3: Click the image tab when results come up.
Step 4: Donald Trump's face will be image #1.

smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/23/20 07:41 AM

He’s a real fun guy - not to be confused with mold and mildew
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/23/20 10:50 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Need a smile?


Tried it, got a chuckle, Txs
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/23/20 11:52 PM



New Covid-19 isolation track from the Rolling Stones:



It's a'ight. Hmm
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/24/20 04:06 PM

I watched a very interesting special on fungi. Fungi are responsible for life on earth in a very real sense. They formed the bridge between the oceans and land, broke down the lava-dense landbase, gave plants their start and are still symbiotic in many, many ways.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/24/20 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I watched a very interesting special on fungi. Fungi are responsible for life on earth in a very real sense. They formed the bridge between the oceans and land, broke down the lava-dense landbase, gave plants their start and are still symbiotic in many, many ways.

They're goddam socialists, is what they are...
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 12:26 AM

Fauci unfiltered...

Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 04:21 PM

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 07:10 PM


Greger that is friggin' AWESOME!!!!!1!!!!1!!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great find!!!!!!


smile , Bow
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 08:14 PM


If you go to the comment section of Gregor's video, most of the comments are from Europe, even though the video is from Mendocino, California.

It just goes to show that entire WORLD is watching this November 2020. Many words of encouragement from around the world that Americans "vote him away."

Bow
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 11:12 PM

Apparently, there is a huge Facebook presence of alt-right idiots plotting an armed revolution. Their latest code-word for it is "boogalu" or some variation of that. They are discussing weapons, bombs, assassins, recruiting people over to their side, etc. Hopefully, the FBI has them all identified and is ready to pick them up.

In local news, the County Sheriffs arrested a bunch of "open everything up" protesters today in Encinitas, California for violating shelter-in-place, social distance, and mask rules. Hopefully they all spend some time in a cellblock with some sick people.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 11:37 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Apparently, there is a huge Facebook presence of alt-right idiots plotting an armed revolution. Their latest code-word for it is "boogalu" or some variation of that. They are discussing weapons, bombs, assassins, recruiting people over to their side, etc. Hopefully, the FBI has them all identified and is ready to pick them up.

In local news, the County Sheriffs arrested a bunch of "open everything up" protesters today in Encinitas, California for violating shelter-in-place, social distance, and mask rules. Hopefully they all spend some time in a cellblock with some sick people.


But nothing will ever happen here, so I am told.
I'll never forget Jesse Ventura telling Larry King that with twenty trained men (like himself) all acting in a coordinated fashion, he could bring most of the major cities to their knees in a day or less.

Okay, I dunno about "give or take ten here, ten there", but I think I believe he's right, random trained snipers acting in concert would probably trigger something similar to rolling lockdowns.

This virus behaves like five thousand of Ventura's trained men acting in concert.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/25/20 11:41 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Apparently, there is a huge Facebook presence of alt-right idiots plotting an armed revolution. Their latest code-word for it is "boogalu" or some variation of that.

The codeword "boogaloo" has been discussed a lot in the press in the past. NPR discussed the phenomena on January 10, 2020. Good thing that Facebook has GPS tracking. smile

It's just like a Rightwinger to appropriate a word meant to blend cultures and selfishly use it to tear cultures apart. Then again, nobody has ever claimed that the Alt-Right are moral stellar thinkers. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/26/20 12:35 AM


Incompetent Trump is throwing in the towel. We finally broke him. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/26/20 05:46 AM


Rumors of Kim Jung Un's death from cardiosurgery is swirling around the internet(s) (h/t GWBush grin )

No wonder Trump seems so defeated today. First the "inject disinfectant" fiasco from Thursday, now his BFF DICKtator boyfriend might be pushing daisies.

It maybe getting to a point where all of this going to be too much for Trump. No wonder Trump is throwing in the towel with pressers - nothing to live for anymore. I mean, if you can't have a family-killing lover for a BFF, what's the point of living? smile

Will Trump attend the funeral of his lover? Probably if he's not invited. coffee
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/26/20 12:54 PM

I found my tablet yesterday. Woot! It's been missing since March 13, apparently. What was amazing to me was what I was reading then. It was like a mini time capsule. Life has changed so much since then it's extraordinary. It almost seems quaint.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/26/20 03:51 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Incompetent Trump is throwing in the towel. We finally broke him. smile


One good dustup with an Iranian warship and he will take his podium back and his authority with it. That's why he was talking about ordering the Navy to start shooting. He is desperately searching for the next big shiny thing.

Kim Jong Un wasn't dying fast enough, hmmmm...wonder what the Iranians are doing right now.
"One good war, maybe two...that'll get Americans' minds off how badly I screwed the pooch on this stupid Chinese flu. And then I get to hold daily briefings again, and I know more than the generals!"

Sorry, but I just wouldn't put it past him.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/26/20 10:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Incompetent Trump is throwing in the towel. We finally broke him. smile


One good dustup with an Iranian warship and he will take his podium back and his authority with it. That's why he was talking about ordering the Navy to start shooting. He is desperately searching for the next big shiny thing.

Kim Jong Un wasn't dying fast enough, hmmmm...wonder what the Iranians are doing right now.
"One good war, maybe two...that'll get Americans' minds off how badly I screwed the pooch on this stupid Chinese flu. And then I get to hold daily briefings again, and I know more than the generals!"

Sorry, but I just wouldn't put it past him.
I wouldn't put it in front of him, either.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 12:14 AM


Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 03:47 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Rumors of Kim Jung Un's death from cardiosurgery is swirling around the internet(s)...

...

...Will Trump attend the funeral of his lover? Probably if he's not invited. coffee

Former West Point graduate says Trump was not 'asked' to be at graduation

Quote:
They asked me to be at West Point on June 13th., & I will be there!
- @Real Donald Trump

Who are you going to believe? A West Point Graduate, or orange Twittler - a guy known go where he's not invited. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 04:22 AM



Flori-duh Governor Ron DeSantis referred to his state as a “waiting room” for seniors who will soon die.

Quote:
“Florida is ground zero for the nursing home, we’re God’s waiting room,” he explained. “We have a huge number of facilities, a huge number of residents.”





#RepublicanDeathPanels

cry
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 04:21 PM

Hey, everyone. You all keeping well? I've been insanely busy at work, and have been unable to drop in.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Apparently, there is a huge Facebook presence of alt-right idiots plotting an armed revolution. Their latest code-word for it is "boogalu" or some variation of that.

The codeword "boogaloo" has been discussed a lot in the press in the past. NPR discussed the phenomena on January 10, 2020. Good thing that Facebook has GPS tracking. smile

It's just like a Rightwinger to appropriate a word meant to blend cultures and selfishly use it to tear cultures apart. Then again, nobody has ever claimed that the Alt-Right are moral stellar thinkers. coffee


What is awesome about this is that "boogaloo" or "bugout bugaloo" is old army slang for "to be routed or otherwise run away in panic," and nobody told these guys.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 05:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Apparently, there is a huge Facebook presence of alt-right idiots plotting an armed revolution. Their latest code-word for it is "boogalu" or some variation of that.

The codeword "boogaloo" has been discussed a lot in the press in the past. NPR discussed the phenomena on January 10, 2020. Good thing that Facebook has GPS tracking. smile

It's just like a Rightwinger to appropriate a word meant to blend cultures and selfishly use it to tear cultures apart. Then again, nobody has ever claimed that the Alt-Right are moral stellar thinkers. coffee

What is awesome about this is that "boogaloo" or "bugout bugaloo" is old army slang for "to be routed or otherwise run away in panic," and nobody told these guys.

Maybe they are referring what their eyes do after that first refreshing swig of virus-killing Lysol?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 06:38 PM

Hey Rick, did you see this? Tyson Foods CEO: Food supply chain is breaking
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 06:55 PM

Quote:
God’s waiting room


BLAMO! Another Republican with a self-inflicted foot wound.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 06:58 PM

Quote:
What is awesome about this is that "boogaloo" or "bugout bugaloo" is old army slang for "to be routed or otherwise run away in panic," and nobody told these guys.


I think that tells you who they are: They would like to pose as former soldiers, but it's all stolen valor punks.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 07:09 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Quote:
What is awesome about this is that "boogaloo" or "bugout bugaloo" is old army slang for "to be routed or otherwise run away in panic," and nobody told these guys.


I think that tells you who they are: They would like to pose as former soldiers, but it's all stolen valor punks.


Well, yeah. You see the get up on these guys? The more tacticool bullshit they have draped/strapped/hung on themselves, the less likely that they served in any fashion whatsoever.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/27/20 09:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Hey, everyone. You all keeping well? I've been insanely busy at work, and have been unable to drop in.


Just glad you're still here.
I actually DID get a little bit of editing work over the last few weeks. I surmise it was stuff I was already going to get anyway but it's nice to know, because a bunch of my old clients are now in hibernation as far as media projects go.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/28/20 05:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
What is awesome about this is that "boogaloo" or "bugout bugaloo" is old army slang for "to be routed or otherwise run away in panic," and nobody told these guys.

...and nobody told these homophobic MAGAts that this song celebrates men having sex with other each at the...YMCA.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/28/20 05:54 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

It's not surprising. Tryon treats their employees like they do their pigs and chickens. It's no wonder Tyson employees are sick from slaughtering sick animals.

Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/28/20 05:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Hey, everyone. You all keeping well? I've been insanely busy at work, and have been unable to drop in.

Just glad you're still here.

So...where's your brother, the cop? smile
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/28/20 02:12 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Hey, everyone. You all keeping well? I've been insanely busy at work, and have been unable to drop in.

Just glad you're still here.

So...where's your brother, the cop? smile


He's been a bit busy.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/28/20 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Quote:
God’s waiting room


BLAMO! Another Republican with a self-inflicted foot wound.
Right after he stepped on it. I guess to hold it in place.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/28/20 04:39 PM

I've been keeping my head down and working on genealogical projects. I had my fill of covidiocy and put myself on hiatus from posting for a hot 12 hours. wink
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/29/20 12:31 AM

Talk about a Foghorn Leghorn moment!
A farm near Leeds, England was almost destroyed by fire because...wait for it...

A pig pooped out a pedometer.

LOL ROTFMOL ROTFMOL LOL

Apparently that journey through the porcine alimentary canal was enough to piss off the batteries enough to make them short out and catch fire, setting the hay alight and burning 75 square meters before fire crews got it under control.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/29/20 01:54 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas

It's not surprising. Tryon treats their employees like they do their pigs and chickens. It's no wonder Tyson employees are sick from slaughtering sick animals.

So, everyone's favorite orange idiot has issued an Executive Order under the DPA to order slaughter houses to remain open.

Gotta keep those Big Macs coming... coffee
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/30/20 04:00 AM

Slaughter houses can remain open, but they can also go bankrupt when they can't get their product to market, and can't get any employees to come to work. Maybe Trump needs to change his mind about mass deportations?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/30/20 08:07 PM

We only need to deport one mass...
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 04/30/20 09:36 PM

Farmers are euthanizing their livestock. When things open back up and the demand returns....the supply won't be there. Prices will rise.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/01/20 05:18 PM


The Tara Reade story is all over the internet today.

Quote:
What’s Joe Biden Supposed to Do, Call His Accuser a Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier?

Well...yeah

Hmm
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/01/20 06:49 PM

In January of 2020, Tara Reade approached TimesUp, a project of the National Women’s Law Center that provides assistance for sexual assault and harassment victims with claims against employers and powerful men. TimesUp refused to help Tara. She was seeking "PR assistance" instead of legal help.

Reade approached Ronan Farrow, and he gave a hard pass.

Reade wrote multiple posts, almost all translated into Russian and distributed to RT, Tass and Interfax, the Russian news agencies, for distribution, in which she gushed praise for Vladimir Putin.

And last but not least, she ripped passages from a novel written by her dead father, to fill in the description of her alleged sexual assault by Biden.
Sorry, I do not find anything in Tara Reade's story credible in the least, and I think she's the clumsiest of Russian operatives.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 02:35 AM



Supposedly, Joe was going to the Congressional gym and forgot his gym bag. Tara was tasked with taking the bag to Joe by Joe's office manager. Tara caught-up with Joe and he found her so alluring at that very split-second, right there is a public hallway, that he pinned her against the wall and diddled her digitally.

Because anyone with a sexual predator bent would openly diddle an attractive female in a public hallway. coffee

...as Doug Thompson used to say: That doesn't pass the smell* test.

My add: *stink finger laugh
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 02:39 PM


Reporter: What do you say about all of Trump's accusers.

Kellyanne LIEway: Let's not do that today. This is Tara Reade's day.

Mediaite.com
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 08:18 PM

Ironic thing about meat packing shutting down: Even with meat contaminated by Covid-infected workers, you could buy it in a supermarket wearing gloves, take it home, put it in a pot or the oven, cook it, and wash your hands after touching it raw. These are all exactly the same precautions we have always had to use with raw chicken! Public health authorities, the USDA, professional cooks, and people in the know all assume raw chicken is contaminated with salmonella and several other pathogens. Not as serious as SARS-COV2 certainly, but people do die from salmonella.

What you don't want to do, is to mix your meat with other grocery items and contaminate them. Or touch anything after you pick up a meat package. Or freeze your uncooked meat and contaminate your freezer.

What I like to do is buy a couple of 5-packs of large split chicken breasts, roast them well, and then put most of those in the freezer. I generally have enough in the freezer so I can buy them when they go on sale for 99 cents a pound!
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 08:21 PM

Sounds like some nasty Tara Reade blowback is coming. Trump and the Russians are so clumsy, their plots against Biden seem like Wiley Coyote schemes.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 09:33 PM


So, it turns out that Tara is a failure in life. So many degrees including a law degree and positions and companies - a failure in life just like Donald J Trump.

Tara's now deleted website, but if it's on the internet is it ever really gone? Web Archive
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 09:44 PM

As recently as 2017 Tara Reade (McCabe) used a Twitter account to heap praise on ol' Joe.

Tara Reade (McCabe) Twitter

Oops! coffee
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/02/20 11:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
And last but not least, she ripped passages from a novel written by her dead father, to fill in the description of her alleged sexual assault by Biden.

J-man, do you have a link for this?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/03/20 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
And last but not least, she ripped passages from a novel written by her dead father, to fill in the description of her alleged sexual assault by Biden.

J-man, do you have a link for this?


Biden Accuser Reade's Allegations Match Scene from Dead Father's Novel.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/03/20 09:49 PM



The "Boogaloo'ers" are losing their sh!t. smile



You probably returned everything anyway, Talia. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/03/20 09:55 PM


Life as a Costco cashier:



smile
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/04/20 12:21 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


The "Boogaloo'ers" are losing their sh!t. smile



You probably returned everything anyway, Talia. coffee


What a covidiot. She is oxygen depleted because she is wearing a mask - yeah, right. Probably her brain was oxygen depleted at birth, which explains her low IQ.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/04/20 04:08 AM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Originally Posted By: pdx rick


The "Boogaloo'ers" are losing their sh!t. smile



You probably returned everything anyway, Talia. coffee


What a covidiot. She is oxygen depleted because she is wearing a mask - yeah, right. Probably her brain was oxygen depleted at birth, which explains her low IQ.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/04/20 05:20 AM


Trump says he's being 'treated worse than Lincoln.' Be careful for what you wish for dumbass, so many people out there want to make that happen. coffee
Posted by: Ujest Shurly

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/04/20 10:41 AM

Imagine how triggered she'd be if you wore a Najib - it does fill the requirement...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/04/20 05:58 PM


Mourning in America

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/06/20 11:39 PM



I read a news article just now about “Sharon” posting on Facebook that she will not shop at Costco because of the mask rule and asked for her Membership to be refunded. So I found the thread on Costco Facebook.

Costco wrote a snarky response about the documentary that would be made of her some day.

Another Member defended “Sharon” and Costco said they will not be refunding his Membership!

Costco - Savage as fck!!!! smile


Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/07/20 12:03 AM

Personally, I'm looking forward to my next COSTCO trip without, Sharon, Talia and their Karen brethren present.
Should be nicer shopping. I suspect they do most of their shopping at Walmart anyway. And that Covidiot that chose to weigh in? Yes, it is a choice. Costco chooses not to let you in, and you're free to shop elsewhere.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/07/20 02:31 AM

The Tyranny of the Stupid has to stop.
Now I think I understand why some countries didn't even hesitate to start slapping these rebels with a clue upside the head.

I normally don't support such draconian tactics but again, all of us are being threatened BY The Tyranny of the Stupid, WEAPONS GRADE STUPID.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/07/20 07:30 AM

Laredo, Texas has a $1000 fine if you are over the age of five and caught without a mask in public. I think every state needs to do this, if we want to end our stay-at-home orders. Even with the current shutdown, we are still seeing the number of cases rising. This could not happen if we had a tight lockdown. If we make it looser, cases go right back up exponentially. We have more asymptomatic cases out there now than when we started the lockdowns, so the infection rates will rise much faster. We have to do something drastic to break this cycle. Lockdown (as we implemented it) obviously does not work well.

In other countries, everybody wears a mask in public. Doormen who make sure you have a mask before they let you in a store, pump hand sanitizer into everyone's hands before entry. Supermarkets sanitize every basket after use. Mass transit is closed down. Schools have everybody masked, the AC turned off, and all windows open. They do everything they can think of to break the cycle.

Do we allow protests? Sure, this is America. People can protest as long as they wear masks, obey group size rules, and obey physical distance rules. If they don't, arrest them. If they resist, shoot them. Non-lethal weapons would be fine, but these sociopaths are endangering everybody so they need to be under house arrest with ankle monitors.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/07/20 08:33 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Laredo, Texas has a $1000 fine if you are over the age of five and caught without a mask in public. I think every state needs to do this, if we want to end our stay-at-home orders. Even with the current shutdown, we are still seeing the number of cases rising. This could not happen if we had a tight lockdown. If we make it looser, cases go right back up exponentially. We have more asymptomatic cases out there now than when we started the lockdowns, so the infection rates will rise much faster. We have to do something drastic to break this cycle. Lockdown (as we implemented it) obviously does not work well.

In other countries, everybody wears a mask in public. Doormen who make sure you have a mask before they let you in a store, pump hand sanitizer into everyone's hands before entry. Supermarkets sanitize every basket after use. Mass transit is closed down. Schools have everybody masked, the AC turned off, and all windows open. They do everything they can think of to break the cycle.

Do we allow protests? Sure, this is America. People can protest as long as they wear masks, obey group size rules, and obey physical distance rules. If they don't, arrest them. If they resist, shoot them. Non-lethal weapons would be fine, but these sociopaths are endangering everybody so they need to be under house arrest with ankle monitors.


Entirely agree. The governments of India and of the Philippines threatened to shoot people on sight, and they actually shot and killed one in the Philippines, and I thought it excessive, but then, when you think of it... it's like these people are spreading a weapon of mass destruction, willingly.

If a terrorist decided to spread a bio-weapon or a radioactive low-grade substance with a kill rate of 1%, and got caught and resisted, nobody would find it very strange or very objectionable if the terrorist got shot, right? Given that these people willingly and knowingly do this, what's the difference?

Anyway, OK, maybe not shoot them... LOL. But at least, we should do like Italy is doing, indicting them with a felony they called "aiding an epidemic" with sentence guidelines of 12 years in prison. Italy indicted 40,000 people with this felony. They probably won't actually prosecute all 40,000 but I'm sure they'll want to make an example of the most egregious cases, like a guy who was diagnosed with COvID-19, was in a highly contagious phase, was ordered to quarantine at home, but left anyway and went out, interacting with a bunch of people. If it can be shown that someone got the virus from him and died, yes, the person deserves to be locked up.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/08/20 03:46 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Mourning in America


Facebook has labeled this ad as "anti-Trump." Ya' think? coffee
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/08/20 07:51 AM

Quote:
Given that these people willingly and knowingly do this, what's the difference?


I just thought they were sociopaths trying to kill me for their "freedum". But really, they are terrorists. They certainly make me afraid. I think in "stand your ground" states, you could shoot them and then claim they made you fear for your life. But I've always thought the same about people who confront you while armed.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/08/20 02:40 PM

Yesterday was a hard news day for me, watching my beloved country crumbling before my eyes. I understood the Supreme Court decision about Bridgegate, even as I disliked the implications for the prosecution of corruption, which was punctuated by the craven and lawless move to dismiss Flynn's pleaded conviction. Corruption just no longer seemed to matter. I was heartened that those miscreants who orchestrated the murder of Ahmaud Arbery were finally arrested, but the video of his murder was wrenching. Yet, without it there would be no justice. The COVID death toll continued on apace as the feckless leadership in Washington dithered, maskless, and States begin the process of accelerating its spread. The House Intelligence records regarding the Trump-Purin election scheme finally were released, but there will be no repercussions during this year, highlighting the universality of Republican corruption. Economic figures are universally bad, even nurses are getting laid off.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/08/20 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Yesterday was a hard news day for me, watching my beloved country crumbling before my eyes. I understood the Supreme Court decision about Bridgegate, even as I disliked the implications for the prosecution of corruption, which was punctuated by the craven and lawless move to dismiss Flynn's pleaded conviction. Corruption just no longer seemed to matter. I was heartened that those miscreants who orchestrated the murder of Ahmaud Arbery were finally arrested, but the video of his murder was wrenching. Yet, without it there would be no justice. The COVID death toll continued on apace as the feckless leadership in Washington dithered, maskless, and States begin the process of accelerating its spread. The House Intelligence records regarding the Trump-Purin election scheme finally were released, but there will be no repercussions during this year, highlighting the universality of Republican corruption. Economic figures are universally bad, even nurses are getting laid off.


Yep, it's all terrible. I have a French friend and she keeps sending to me from Paris all sorts of memes making fun of our president. We are a joking matter now; we were once a powerful and proud nation, the leaders of the free world. Now we are a Banana Republic with a wannabe dictator, a spike in corruption (like all Banana Republics), and the persistent denial of sciences (it's the movie Idiocracy all over).

Truth is gone in this era of fake news, when the president tells 15,000 lies and his new press secretary (they made sure to make her cute as opposed to the last fat cow, for better ratings) promises to never tell lies, and proceeds in her first press conference to... tell multiple lies.

My hopes of the end of the pandemic by July or August are gone. We are in for the long run until a vaccine is found, and this is not at all warranted, despite all the over-optimistic news. It is not uncommon that promising vaccines fail to deliver sufficient protection especially when the virus mutates, and the rushed development doesn't bode well for safety.

Treatments so far have either been ineffective or confer modest advantage.

Even after the pandemic is over (hopefully with an effective vaccine otherwise the virus will just encroach, become endemic, and a permanent threat) the economic recovery will take years.

Several businesses will go into bankruptcy. Several laid off people won't be re-hired. Salaries will see no raises but rather pay cuts for the lucky ones who will still have a job. Entire sectors won't ever be the same if the virus becomes endemic (cruises, airlines, restaurants, rental of office spaces, gyms, movie theaters, etc).

Meanwhile with likely very dirty tricks like extensive voter suppression, or even worse fraud (if we move to voting by mail, I don't like the fact that Trump has just appointed a new head for the USPS) like in Banana Republics (we are one, now), Trump may very well win re-election and finish the job of destroying American democracy.

The raise of nationalism, right-wing governments (US, Brazil, Italy, UK, Hungary, etc.), racism, and xenophobia doesn't bode well for the brotherhood of nations, and it's the brewing grounds for world wars.

Global warming, worsening weather events, pollution, plagues...

I think I've never seen in my lifetime such a confluence of bad news and bad indicators, pointing to extremely troubled times ahead.

My son and his fiancee (they were planning to get married in early June but had to postpone) are saying that they do not want to put children in this world because the children are likely to suffer lots of hardship when they become adults, in a deteriorating world. My hopes for grandchildren are being dashed, as my daughter and her husband have already firmly decided the same.

The things I like the best for leisure - live classical music concerts and opera, gourmet restaurants, breweries, having lots of friends over for dinner, sports (NFL, world soccer, college football and college basketball) are all gone. I'm sick and tired of watching Netflix TV series as there is nothing else to do.

I feel very gloomy today. It's all very depressing, and there is no solution in sight. I think things will only get worse.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/08/20 09:59 PM

They could actually hold basketball games, if the NBA would get on it. Teams would have to be in tight quarantine, with delivered sterilized food, etc. for a few weeks. Then everybody gets PCR and antibody tested. If all goes well, the teams could play games in empty courts and televise them. As the only sports on TV, the audiences would be HUGE!

This is inspired from all the quarantined couples making amateur porn and selling subscriptions online. As long as your quarantine is tight, you should be able to interact with other people in tight quarantines. Hardly anybody really has tight quarantines, but they are not impossible.

I would start with basketball, because the teams are so small. But they could do this with most sports.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/09/20 07:40 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
They could actually hold basketball games, if the NBA would get on it. Teams would have to be in tight quarantine, with delivered sterilized food, etc. for a few weeks. Then everybody gets PCR and antibody tested. If all goes well, the teams could play games in empty courts and televise them. As the only sports on TV, the audiences would be HUGE!

This is inspired from all the quarantined couples making amateur porn and selling subscriptions online. As long as your quarantine is tight, you should be able to interact with other people in tight quarantines. Hardly anybody really has tight quarantines, but they are not impossible.

I would start with basketball, because the teams are so small. But they could do this with most sports.


LOL, while I wouldn't want to sell subscriptions to amateur porn with my wife (being with her is great but we don't need people watching us), I'd love to see basketball and football games being played in empty stadiums. Yes, commissioners, please bring back our beloved sports, in a safe way. I'm bored!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 12:20 AM



Trump x R.E.M. - Losing My Civilians



smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 02:01 AM


So the past two, three weeks my right knee has been really hurting. I thought it was because I have been walking more because of Corona like everybody is doing with their newly found free-time these days. I went to the doctor yesterday and told the doctor that I would quite often wake up in the middle of the night several times because of excruciating pain. The doctor diagnosed it as tendinitis. Take Allieve.

Today I got up early and did my washing and other chores and took a nap in the early afternoon. The pain returned. I realized why the pain was there while I slept.

Don't laugh. nono

I now realize the entire issue started a few weeks ago when I acquiesced more of the bed to Rocksus. I was literally on the right side of the bed and because my right leg no longer had any more of the bed, I simply cantilevered my right leg off the bed. I'd been doing this for weeks now. Because there was no support under my leg to take the weight of my leg which was literally airborne, the tendons of my knee were holding my leg up in the air, putting the support of holding my leg on the patella tendons.

I'm taking back the majority of the bad and Rocksus will just need to curl-up into a tighter ball as he once did.

Lately, he's been in the habit of sleeping on his back with his lower half spread eagle and taking up the majority of the bed and that's probably when this all started. Hmm

gobsmacked
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 03:58 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

So the past two, three weeks my right knee has been really hurting. I thought it was because I have been walking more because of Corona like everybody is doing with their newly found free-time these days. I went to the doctor yesterday and told the doctor that I would quite often wake up in the middle of the night several times because of excruciating pain. The doctor diagnosed it as tendinitis. Take Allieve.

Today I got up early and did my washing and other chores and took a nap in the early afternoon. The pain returned. I realized why the pain was there while I slept.

Don't laugh. nono

I now realize the entire issue started a few weeks ago when I acquiesced more of the bed to Rocksus. I was literally on the right side of the bed and because my right leg no longer had any more of the bed, I simply cantilevered my right leg off the bed. I'd been doing this for weeks now. Because there was no support under my leg to take the weight of my leg which was literally airborne, the tendons of my knee were holding my leg up in the air, putting the support of holding my leg on the patella tendons.

I'm taking back the majority of the bad and Rocksus will just need to curl-up into a tighter ball as he once did.

Lately, he's been in the habit of sleeping on his back with his lower half spread eagle and taking up the majority of the bed and that's probably when this all started. Hmm

gobsmacked


Betty Boop does this too, and it's been a long hard slog to train her to stay at the low end of the mattress and sleep down there.
Sometimes I wind up cuddling next to Karen in my sleep but on a couple of occasions Karen has woken up to find me shoved off to the side because Boops decided SHE gets Karen, not me.

The lil sh!t ROTFMOL



Fiona Kitty always sleeps at the bottom end of Karen's mattress...or my grandmother's ottoman stool.

Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 04:26 AM

Fortunately I don't have any pets. I hate pets. And no, that doesn't make of me a bad person like most pet owners assume.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 04:28 AM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Fortunately I don't have any pets. I hate pets. And no, that doesn't make of me a bad person like most pet owners assume.


No, not at all.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 05:11 AM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Fortunately I don't have any pets. I hate pets. And no, that doesn't make of me a bad person like most pet owners assume.

Dogs know. They're good judge of character. Hmm Which is why dogs hate Trump. coffee Ask two of his wives. smile
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 05:18 AM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Fortunately I don't have any pets. I hate pets. And no, that doesn't make of me a bad person like most pet owners assume.

Dogs know. They're good judge of character. Hmm Which is why dogs hate Trump. coffee Ask two of his wives. smile


While "I hate pets" is a way of speaking because I don't HATE them in the evil sense of the word, I don't like them, find them annoying and lots of work that is not worth my time. But still, I'd never mistreat or hurt a pet. Never did, never will, and despise the people who do.

If pets sense something in the air, I don't think they've ever demonstrated anything against me, because they must feel that I'm no threat to them. Some pet owners, fortunately a minority, are a lot more of a threat to them, as in, abusive owners.

Another kind of annoying pet owner is the kind who doesn't care and doesn't curb the pet when the pet is clearly annoying someone else (like barking non stop at night, jumping on people and licking them and pawing them when they are clearly not welcome) or destroying someone else's property (like a garden) or even pooping on someone else's lawn.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 06:25 PM

I had a goal once to be pet free by 2003, I never made it... Life is easier without pets. If you go away for the weekend you don't have to find someone to feed them or worry about them sh*tting on the floor. You don't have to clean puke off the couch or sh*t from between your toes.

No vet bills, no pet food to buy, no fleas. No litter boxes, no walks in the rain that you and your dog both hate.

Not having pets makes you a sensible person.

That might be a good thing and it might not. Most folks I run with can be called a lot of things. Sensible is not one that comes to mind regarding most of them.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 08:24 PM

Some of you would be uncomfortable in my home because while we did housebreak our dog, we did not "train" her to be anything other than a goofy lovable dog, in other words, herself.

So yes, she does get excited to meet new people and she does want to come over and express herself the way dogs often do. Her thirty pound frame shakes and wiggles from head to toe and she is eager to greet strangers and their pets.
She's not destructive, she's just a goofy dog who loves everyone.

Funny thing is, our kitties are the same, although not quite as silly as the dog.
But in a matter of minutes, both of them will come out and want to investigate the guest and make friends with them, too.

We had one family member who is allergic to both cats and dogs. He was pretty uncomfortable, but the rest of our guests have marveled at how friendly our pets are.
The most entertaining thing is how our veterinarian staff reacts.
They absolutely LOVE how sweet our animals are, especially the two cats.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
So yes, she does get excited to meet new people and she does want to come over and express herself the way dogs often do. Her thirty pound frame shakes and wiggles from head to toe and she is eager to greet strangers and their pets.

That's exactly how you acted when I came to visit! Hmm
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
So yes, she does get excited to meet new people and she does want to come over and express herself the way dogs often do. Her thirty pound frame shakes and wiggles from head to toe and she is eager to greet strangers and their pets.

That's exactly how you acted when I came to visit! Hmm


Yeah it pretty much is, isn't it? LOL
But you did get to meet all the animals.
I can't remember if we had Betty Boop or if Zowie was still with us back then. Zowie was a very old black Cocker Spaniel.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Some of you would be uncomfortable in my home because while we did housebreak our dog, we did not "train" her to be anything other than a goofy lovable dog, in other words, herself.

So yes, she does get excited to meet new people and she does want to come over and express herself the way dogs often do. Her thirty pound frame shakes and wiggles from head to toe and she is eager to greet strangers and their pets.
She's not destructive, she's just a goofy dog who loves everyone.

Funny thing is, our kitties are the same, although not quite as silly as the dog.
But in a matter of minutes, both of them will come out and want to investigate the guest and make friends with them, too.

We had one family member who is allergic to both cats and dogs. He was pretty uncomfortable, but the rest of our guests have marveled at how friendly our pets are.
The most entertaining thing is how our veterinarian staff reacts.
They absolutely LOVE how sweet our animals are, especially the two cats.


Yeah, they are probably very sweet. If I ever visit you, please keep them at least 10 feet away from me. Hm... make it twelve, please. I was thinking of the 10ft pole but let's make it twice the COVID-19 social distancing.

eek
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 08:57 PM

Quote:
Her thirty pound frame shakes and wiggles from head to toe


Mine were 30 pounds when they were three months old. Now everybody is at least 65 pounds and that's the runt. We've got a shepard/ridgeback mix you could throw a saddle on and ride around the ranch. He's a sweetheart but has a basso-profundo bark that would soil any burglar's pants.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 09:42 PM



Rocksus is 52lbs of dog love. smile


Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 10:20 PM

Rosoe tips the scales at 103 and hes fairly skinny. Biggest feet anybody has ever seen on a dog. I call him Goofy because there's a strong resemblance. Dog people I know think he's a Lab Bloodhound mix.
Both cats died last year, the daughter moved out, the bunny just died and Roscoe has about a year to live. Large breeds like him usually live to be `11 or 12. He's 12.

That's the trigger for selling the house and moving to town.

I've done my share for the animals of the world. I want to wake up one morning and not have to feed the livestock.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 10:38 PM

No chickens when you move to town? Or is it one of those "chickens okay" towns?

We have a 10 acre spread, okay for limited numbers of livestock but pretty much anything goes. But we are about three minutes away from supermarkets, pizza, and Mexican food.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight

Yeah, they are probably very sweet. If I ever visit you, please keep them at least 10 feet away from me. Hm... make it twelve, please. I was thinking of the 10ft pole but let's make it twice the COVID-19 social distancing.

eek


LOL, never gonna happen.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 10:44 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Rocksus is 52lbs of dog love. smile




OMG adorable!! Boops would go bonkers over him.
That is one very pretty doggie.
Does he sing?
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Quote:
Her thirty pound frame shakes and wiggles from head to toe


Mine were 30 pounds when they were three months old. Now everybody is at least 65 pounds and that's the runt. We've got a shepard/ridgeback mix you could throw a saddle on and ride around the ranch. He's a sweetheart but has a basso-profundo bark that would soil any burglar's pants.


Karen's brother had a Rott who barked like that.
And yes, it was pretty frightening.
But Socks was just a big ole tub o'love deep down.
I'm sure he would give his life to defend the family but he was not a trained watchdog, as I was able to stare him down the very first time I laid eyes on him and he had no idea who we were.

He started in with the ROWR ROWR WOOF WOOF business and then suddenly he was all wiggles and submission. Danny was embarrassed! ROTFMOL
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight

Yeah, they are probably very sweet. If I ever visit you, please keep them at least 10 feet away from me. Hm... make it twelve, please. I was thinking of the 10ft pole but let's make it twice the COVID-19 social distancing.

eek


LOL, never gonna happen.


Oh, so you won't ever invite a non-pet lover over? You... you... anti-non-pet-lover-racist or something!

mad
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 11:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Does he sing?

He "talks" up a storm - especially when's he's really happy and just about to play ball*..

*A medium Kong tennis ball with a squeaker inside.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 11:18 PM


Great Ad from Joe Biden. At the end:

Quote:
Real Presidents Lead
Reality TV Presidents Don't.


Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/10/20 11:21 PM

Went back to the cabin today, mostly for an outing but also to see if the 12 year old linseed oil with Japan drier I put on two weeks ago actually cured out. It did, so I brushed a coat on several more courses of logs and did some foam backing in readying for the inside chinking. The aspen trees I transplanted from suckers brought from Idaho ten years ago are 20 feet tall and getting their spring leaves - very pretty - and a dozen new suckers are growing. It will be a wonderful grove in a few more years.

Came home and fixed some pulled pork tacos and Mother's Day Mojitos to eat on the front porch. Nice little thunderstorm and rain going on right now. Smells good!
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/11/20 05:32 AM

Quote:
No chickens when you move to town?


It turns out that chickens and wheelchairs are not such a good match. If you have chickens, chickensh*t is unavoidable. Chickensh*t on your tires is bad form.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/11/20 08:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Chickensh*t on your tires is bad form.

Indeed, very gauche. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/12/20 05:46 AM



Saw the Hollywood series on Netflix by Ryan Murphy. Meh. I give it a B+ Hmm
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/12/20 12:17 PM

Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/12/20 12:18 PM

“What is your wish, Mrs. Bumgartner?”

“Why Jack, I wish I could have a hole in the ceiling so the heat could go upstairs to my ten children’s bedroom at night.”

“Well, Mrs. Bumgartner, I wish you all the luck in the world in today’s contest. And just for coming onstage, here are three cartons of Old Gold cigarettes!”

Spoiler alert: the Queen for a Day who won asked for a wheelchair bed for her brother in Tennessee who was accidentally shot in the back four times, mistaken identity thing, you know - happens more than you’d think in Tennessee.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/13/20 11:56 PM

I thought this was very interesting - nobody else? I think my mother watched Queen For A Day - I clearly recall Jack saying, "How would you like to be Queen for a day!", though I didn't remember anything about the show.

Some psychoanalysts are saying that Trump longs for the 1950's version of what makes a good woman.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/14/20 01:15 AM

We have a Queen for a Day right here at The Rant.
Please welcome our newest member, she's a lady...SUPERFLY!
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/14/20 08:42 PM

Welcome Superfly, she posted once and never more, I hope she will be more prolific. We can use more movement here.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/15/20 10:31 AM



Happy Meme Friday!

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/15/20 10:32 AM



Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/15/20 10:32 AM



Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/15/20 03:04 PM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Welcome Superfly, she posted once and never more, I hope she will be more prolific. We can use more movement here.


I'm trying...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/16/20 12:24 AM


I just realized that Chunk hasn't been around since Bernie quit the race. Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/16/20 02:20 AM

Chunk is very passionate about Senator Sanders' policies. I think he's also fabricating a big cabinet job right, but mostly I think he was, once again, deeply disappointed by the primary results.
I share that disappointment. I wanted Warren though.

If you recall, I warned him months ago that Bernie couldn't win.

Then he convinced me there was a chance...

Turns out I was right. And Warren stands a better than average chance of being VP and being the next president.

I never put all my eggs in one basket(except my hen's eggs, I always put them in the same basket)

Chunkstyle is an artist and a dreamer, passionate about everything he does. I hope he comes back one day.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/16/20 06:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Warren stands a better than average chance of being VP and being the next president..

Black voters want a black female VP. We can't win without the black vote.

Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/16/20 07:59 AM

Biden's not doing very well with Hispanics. A black Hispanic would be perfect, in terms of minority voting.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/16/20 11:47 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Chunk is very passionate about Senator Sanders' policies. I think he's also fabricating a big cabinet job right, but mostly I think he was, once again, deeply disappointed by the primary results.
I share that disappointment. I wanted Warren though.

If you recall, I warned him months ago that Bernie couldn't win.

Then he convinced me there was a chance...

Turns out I was right. And Warren stands a better than average chance of being VP and being the next president.

I never put all my eggs in one basket(except my hen's eggs, I always put them in the same basket)

Chunkstyle is an artist and a dreamer, passionate about everything he does. I hope he comes back one day.


From the beginning of the primaries I said Bernie wouldn't win and would actually do worse than in 2016, and the Bernie Brothers wanted to kill me for my opinion. I said, mark my words, and they ridiculed me.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 12:54 AM



Anyone seen Godless on Netflix? it's a limited series from 2017 in the Western genre. I loathe Westerns, I really do. But I really, really like this series.

I saw it back when it was first released. I'm revisiting it this weekend. What a fantastic show: Great photography, great acting, great script, great soundtrack. The last 3 mins of part 1 is superb: the cinematography and the music during the last few minutes.

Nominated for 12 Emmys and won three. Worth a watch. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 02:35 AM

Gregermon, do you know this little guy?

Florida blue bee
Quote:
The metallic navy insect, a blue calamintha bee, had only been previously found in four areas "totaling just 16 square miles of pine scrub habitat at Central Florida's Lake Wales Ridge," the Florida Museum said in a news release.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 02:57 AM

The Lake Wales ridge is the next range of hills south of me. Both areas claim to be the highest above sea level in the state. I didn't know they had blue bees.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 12:28 PM

More Floridian natural phenomena...

Looks like a cloud is reloading on water
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 01:54 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Anyone seen Godless on Netflix? it's a limited series from 2017 in the Western genre. I loathe Westerns, I really do. But I really, really like this series.

I saw it back when it was first released. I'm revisiting it this weekend. What a fantastic show: Great photography, great acting, great script, great soundtrack. The last 3 mins of part 1 is superb: the cinematography and the music during the last few minutes.

Nominated for 12 Emmys and won three. Worth a watch. smile

Good to know. I'm running out of good series to watch. Thanks.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 03:11 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Anyone seen Godless on Netflix? it's a limited series from 2017 in the Western genre. I loathe Westerns, I really do. But I really, really like this series.

I saw it back when it was first released. I'm revisiting it this weekend. What a fantastic show: Great photography, great acting, great script, great soundtrack. The last 3 mins of part 1 is superb: the cinematography and the music during the last few minutes.

Nominated for 12 Emmys and won three. Worth a watch. smile



And I bet you could be persuaded to like at least one or two good-lookin' cowboys, too. wink
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 07:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
And I bet you could be persuaded to like at least one or two good-lookin' cowboys, too. wink

More than likely...

,

smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 09:42 PM

That's the hilarious thing to me, when haters claim that gay guys are child molesters: Do either of those cowboys look like children to you?

I'm about 99% straight on that orientation scale, but those guys make me appreciate what it must be like to be gay. Yummie!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 11:32 PM



My entire life, I have always said: I'm not interested in the kid, I'm interest is in his dad. The dad isn't safe around me. Seriously. laugh

Where there's a kid, a dad is not far away. LOL
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 11:34 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I'm about 99% straight on that orientation scale, but those guys make me appreciate what it must be like to be gay. Yummie!

Just imagine running the palms of both hands over that nice chest fur, back and forth, back and forth.

smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/17/20 11:53 PM

Brings back memories of my first ex-wife...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 12:28 AM

Quote:
Brings back memories of my first ex-wife...

She was good-looking, muscular and hairy? coffee
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 12:49 AM

Rancher type.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 12:58 AM



I see. smile i didn't know that rancher women were built like that.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 03:03 AM

They're usually more muscular and hairy than they are good looking.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 03:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
They're usually more muscular and hairy than they are good looking.


ROTFMOL

...but on a more serious note, the woman "ranchers" portrayed in Godless, were strong, tough, but feminine - not hairy or muscular at all. Hmm
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 05:10 AM

>Blue bees

We actually have something like 100 different bee species in America. Very few are social like honey bees. In fact I think i spotted one I've never seen before in my yard, visiting some flowers. It was really big, like maybe four times the size of a honey bee. It's wings were beating really fast as it hovered. I thought it was a carpenter bee but then I noticed it was all yellow.

ed: Just looked it up. It was a carpenter bee, but a male. Stingless, like all males bees. Commonly known as The Teddybear Bee.

The ones that are superior pollinators for avocado are Green Orchard Bees. They are about fives times better, and hardy ever sting anybody. Tricky to establish a colony, though, and they may well just leave at the end of the summer.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 06:52 PM

As soon as the orange trees are done blooming all the beekeepers here pack up their bees and head to California. There's usually a couple hundred hives nearby but they're gone now. Not a lot of citrus around me anymore and I suspect they just store the bees here over the winter.
Used to be a guy next door kept his elephant here during the winter months.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/18/20 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: Greger
They're usually more muscular and hairy than they are good looking.


ROTFMOL

...but on a more serious note, the woman "ranchers" portrayed in Godless, were strong, tough, but feminine - not hairy or muscular at all. Hmm


In that case the reality is they are more strong and tough than they are feminine.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/20/20 02:25 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
That's the hilarious thing to me, when haters claim that gay guys are child molesters: Do either of those cowboys look like children to you?

I'm about 99% straight on that orientation scale, but those guys make me appreciate what it must be like to be gay. Yummie!


One of my favorite ways to mess with Karen's head is when a gorgeous hunky guy appears on TV and I lean over and say something like,
"Damn, you might have to fight ME for him, whaddya think?"

First time I said that, the look on her face basically resembled two large saucers atop an open oven door.

Or Johnny Bravo if he was female...


ROTFMOL

One time we happened to flick past "Brokeback Mountain" and she didn't know what it was, and then one of the love scenes came on.

"OMG OMG OMG it's that brokeback movie, stop make it stop!!"
She put the sheet over her head and I kept trying to pull it down.

LOL
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/20/20 02:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
One time we happened to flick past "Brokeback Mountain" and she didn't know what it was, and then one of the love scenes came on.

"OMG OMG OMG it's that brokeback movie, stop make it stop!!"
She put the sheet over her head and I kept trying to pull it down.

LOL

One man kissing another man is so icky. coffee
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/20/20 02:34 AM


Costco Manager Kicks Out Irate Customer Who Refuses to Wear Coronavirus Mask, Curseout Ensues

Another big mouth filming himself refusing to wear a mask at Costco.

Hmm
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/20/20 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Costco Manager Kicks Out Irate Customer Who Refuses to Wear Coronavirus Mask, Curseout Ensues

Another big mouth filming himself refusing to wear a mask at Costco.

Hmm


I hate this guy for two reasons:

1. Rhinestone beds? Who the [censored] does that?

2. Covid19 is now marching through my workplace in big shitty boots, and this clown is making a joke out of it.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/20/20 08:09 PM

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
Kindness is not without its rocks ahead. People are apt to put it down to an easy temper and seldom recognize it as the secret striving of a generous nature; whilst, on the other hand, the ill-natured get credit for all the evil they refrain from. -Honore De Balzac, novelist (20 May 1799-1850)
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 05:19 AM

A thought for today:

How many of these anti-viral drugs and nutrients are non-specific. We're taking them for SARS-COV2, but does an ionophore + zinc actually block replication of all corona viruses? Does higher Vitamin D levels and NAC decrease the severity of all flu viruses? That actually seems to be the case. Do other viruses have to get into the nucleus to screw with cellular defenses? If that's true, then ivermectin could stop them.

So have we actually almost cured flu and the common cold, as a by-product of this fight?
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 12:09 PM


fOX NEWS: The Fat Orange One ain't getting re-elected.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 12:13 PM


More bad news orange fatty:

60% disapprove of orange idiot's handling of the Covid-19 crisis.

smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 12:59 PM

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 02:22 PM


Trump/Pence 2020 Slogan:

Too scared to act,
Too panicked to tell the truth,
Too weak to lead.

Give us four more years!

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 02:53 PM


Miss Lindsey must go! smile

Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: pdx rick

fOX NEWS: The Fat Orange One ain't getting re-elected.

smile


I still wouldn't be so sure. The idiotic voters still trust him more on the economy which is often the most decisive factor except when there is war.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 04:55 PM

Quote:
So have we actually almost cured flu and the common cold, as a by-product of this fight?

Nope. Not even close. We haven't actually even begun this fight and will abandon it as soon as higher paying options become more available.

Zinc and megadoses of vitamins have been used for years. There isn't enough real research to show that they help. Worm medicine and other anti-parasitics aren't likely to be the answer that people have looked for over the centuries.

Have they tried leeching and bloodletting yet? Perhaps more research into the power of prayer? They're throwing everything in the medicine cabinet at it and hoping something will stick. The way to beat it is to stay at home. Venture out only if you must and only if it is safe.

Take precautions! Because once you catch it there's a small possibility that you will die. No medicine or remedy can help you.
It's almost like an allergic reaction. Maybe exactly like an allergic reaction. If you get that cytokine storm, you're likely a deader.

One of the saddest stories on the planet right now is that Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov is in a medically induced coma in a hospital in Moscow and President Putin has promised he will receive the very best of care. He's the father and lifelong coach of lightweight champion Khabib Nurmegomedov. Abdulmanap is literally one of the toughest men on the planet. He's likely a deader. I feel really bad for Khabib.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 05:08 PM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
Originally Posted By: pdx rick

fOX NEWS: The Fat Orange One ain't getting re-elected.

smile


I still wouldn't be so sure. The idiotic voters still trust him more on the economy which is often the most decisive factor except when there is war.


And fortunately a war of sorts has been foist upon us and Trump is having his moment to bring back the economy. The stock market is looking great right now so the economy must be good right? The war isn't going all that well. But it's mostly Democrats dying...

I'm with Rick on this, he aint getting re-elected. He's just literally too awful to get re-elected.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 05:25 PM

Originally Posted By: GreatNewsTonight
The idiotic voters still trust him more on the economy which is often the most decisive factor except when there is war.

They've got to be idiots if they believe that a failed businessman with six business bankruptcies will save the economy that he helped tank.

Lets' be honest here.

For eleven years, Mark Burnett beamed a Hollywood-made for TV character of a savvy, strong business leader into our homes every Thursday Night as a television reality show named "The Apprentice." In reality, the host of the show was a failed, weak businessman with six business bankruptcies under his belt even then. Trump the successful businessman is a Hollywood reality TV-show creation.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 05:29 PM


Stock Market looking great? It tanked from over 29,500 to 19,500 and has never gotten back above 25,500. Everything Trump touches turns to shyte.

Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 06:18 PM

Stock market is going up. If you buy right now you can make money. That's what it's all about. As long as the rich get richer, poor republicans can die peacefully, knowing their lives weren't wasted.

Quote:
Trump the successful businessman is a Hollywood reality TV-shw creation.

He's right on par with Duck Dynasty and Honey boo boo.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 06:28 PM


Welp, the Tara Reade lie how now fizzled. What dirty trick will Trump try next? Hmm
Posted by: jgw

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 06:50 PM

Trump is not just a failed businessman. He is somebody who's father gifted him with 450 MILLION dollars and he LOST IT ALL! "failed businessman" doesn't even begin to cover that one. I would have assumed that was impossible but Trump actually did it! There is all the rest of it, the failed businesses, the law suits, the money from Russia, the 6 bankrupts, the unpaid contractors, the corps of abused women, etc., etc., etc. What we are talking about, basically, is a man who actually blew through something like 1/2 a BILLION Dollars!

Failed businessman my ass. He is the shining example of somebody who is incompetent at life, incompetent at business, incompetent as president, and, again basically, a bum with a mouth and nothing else.

A BUM! The really shocking thing is that he just might get elected to another 4 years of destroying the nation. This scares the sh*t out of me.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/22/20 09:40 PM

Originally Posted By: jgw
...The really shocking thing is that he just might get elected to another 4 years of destroying the nation. This scares the sh*t out of me.

Take solace in the fact that Joe Biden is handily beating the sh!t out of Trump in every poll.

smile
Posted by: jgw

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/23/20 05:13 PM

I remember the night Hillary lost. My wife started crying and telling me that ALL the polls said she was going to win. This can happen again! Gambling money still favors Trump and there are any number of them that have Trump and Biden close as well.

https://www.predictit.org/markets/13/Prez-Election
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/23/20 07:16 PM

J-L Cauvin on Twitter

ROTFMOL ROTFMOL ROTFMOL
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/24/20 12:35 AM

Quote:
I remember the night Hillary lost.


We all do.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/24/20 05:54 PM



(M)Ann Coulter is so GRRRRRRRRRRR mad that "The Fat One" is backing "Coach" Tuberville (such a homoerotic name! "Coach Tuberville") over Jeff Sessions in the Republican Senate Primary in July. Currently Tuberville is leading Sessions by 20 points, in large part thanks to Trump.

On Twitter, (M)Ann is calling Trump a "blithering idiot" and a "shallow and broken" man.

It's total popcorn time! smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/24/20 07:15 PM




smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/24/20 11:56 PM

Back to the cabin today, out of reach of the omnipresent electronic buttsniffing/necksniffing of the modern age for five pleasant hours.

Got linseed oil on the rest of the logs and installed windowshades, plus a nice lunch, a good book, and a nap.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/25/20 08:17 PM


What happened to Reader Rant for the past 12 hours?

Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/25/20 08:39 PM

Jeffery got in a snit and resigned. He slammed the door shut on his way out. I don't usually come around before four o'clock so I didn't know it was shut down.

Something to do with a new poster getting butthurt.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/25/20 10:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Jeffery got in a snit and resigned. He slammed the door shut on his way out. I don't usually come around before four o'clock so I didn't know it was shut down.

Something to do with a new poster getting butthurt.


What you want to label as a snit and what it really is are two different things.
How many active members do we have?
What is it, maybe nine or ten?

We managed to drive out one last night, and alienate two other new members in short order before that.
Also, one OLD member came around, and was searching for another old member who hasn't been back since the last time this forum devolved into a hot mess. I expect neither of them will be back.

So, what is this forum aiming for, even LESS active members?
Doing a great job, terrific in fact.
Maybe the Rant will reach the point where there are only TWO active users and one will alienate the other and then it will be down to one remaining active member talking to themselves.

My my, it's almost as if some folks are beginning to reach the point where they are incapable of admitting that maybe they might have made a mistake...which is a trait shared by the current POTUS.

I admit I made mistakes.
My biggest mistake was in thinking I could maybe revitalize the place and bring in new people, and foster an atmosphere conducive to reasonable discussion.

I admit it, I made a mistake thinking that was possible, among many others. I made a mistake thinking I could pull it off, that I had the skills.
I have plenty of skills but obviously making this forum work again is not one of them.

Someone is paying hosting service costs for a forum which will soon have zero active users and I don't want to be around when the door slams shut and there's only one person left to turn off the lights.
It won't be me, it will be one of you.

Enjoy talking to the four winds.
When a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, yadda yadda yadda.

By the way, note that I didn't bring this out in the public area of the forum, you did, Greger.
What a DICK MOVE ON YOUR PART.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/25/20 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Jeffery got in a snit and resigned. He slammed the door shut on his way out. I don't usually come around before four o'clock so I didn't know it was shut down.

Something to do with a new poster getting butthurt.


It's not an issue of "getting butthurt."

It's just that this is not really a place for reasonable discussion, contrary to what you said, and contrary to what I was told when I was invited to join (not the Admin's fault, though. Nice guy).

Great way to treat a newbie. You clearly just want to keep the people you've been friends with for a while, no space for new ones. Well, see, you did get what you wanted, as this newbie here will get the hell out of here.

Please, continue to enjoy talking to a mirror and to a sounding board.
Posted by: GreatNewsTonight

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/25/20 11:23 PM

Interesting, this forum doesn't seem to have a "delete account" option. I looked everywhere, including in the FAQ. Oh well. Consider my account deleted (I guess the only thing I can do to signal this, is to remove my avatar). I sent an email to deepfreezefilms which is Contact Us address, soliciting the deletion.

If it doesn't happen, I'll just stop coming here. Have you all a nice life.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/25/20 11:40 PM


I'm a Liberal, my pen (keyboard) is mightier than the sword. I am not one to take an AR-15 and shoot-up the place, but my words will cut you.

I hardly find it cute when it's suggested that Trump will win re-election knowing that Trump’s inaction from January 3, 2020 (when the administration claims to have first become aware of the virus) up to March 13 made the Covid-19 crisis exponentially worse than it should have been with over 100,000 needless deaths. No rational thinking person would ever think that Trump would, or should win re-election. So why write it?

Trump’s failures of governance since March 13, 2020 greatly outweigh the positive steps he took in that time in scope and number.

Hmm


Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 12:22 AM

Quote:
I'll just stop coming here.


Cool.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 12:39 AM

Jeffery I made this public because we are not a secretive organization anymore where five mods and two admins meet behind closed door to determine the fate of the posters. We're 8 old guys that don't need that kind of bullsh*t. This forum has been dying for years and bringing around an occasional new sanctimonious prick is not going to revitalize online forums and political discussion groups.

Are you resigning or not? Are you staying as a poster? Jon and I will have to iron out the details

You haven't failed as an admin. I've watched them f*ck things up for over a decade and you've done a fine job! You set an impossible goal for yourself.

PIA are you interested? We need a new mod and admin if Jeffery's leaving.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 01:56 AM

What's the user to official ratio around here. Seems we have an awful lot of Chiefs and very few Indians.

You may not actually want me: I rather liked GNT and I'm fine with people liking or disliking politicians and expressing their views on them. I have always had an aversion to exclusion, since I was a kid. I have several friends who run the gamut from Socialist to Libertarian. I may think their opinions are stupid and non-productive, but I support their right to have them.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 04:50 AM

I rather liked GNT too! I'm not even sure how this little kerfuffle got started. As a mod I wasn't informed of any of it as it occurred nor do I have information regarding communications between the various individuals involved. Normally we'd put our heads together read over the poster's complaint, share any communications and come to some sort of agreement. My vote would have been that the post was emotional and irrational and was an inflammatory attack on various icons of the American left.

First I heard, I was asked to change my post and I promptly deleted it, no problem no worries. Then the forum went dead and I assumed it was down for repairs.

If protocol had been followed this all might have been avoided. Shutting down the forum resigning and running off in the middle of the night is not how we've ever done things here. If I'd thought there was any real issue I'd have just deleted the whole mess and been done with it. None of this sh*t is worth getting upset over. Tempers flair occasionally and we've always gotten past it. It's part of the fun of it.

GNTs rant against the left was ill considered and meant to inflame the lefties among us. He slapped three intelligent replies aside without regard for their content. That aint discussion pardner, that's just railroading your opinion through without regard for facts or reasonable debate.

And I'm probably totally in the wrong in regards to ensuing comments. I offer a limited apology for that.

But once I had to re-open the goddam forum because the admin got overwhelmed I was seriously f*cking pissed. Not at him...but at whatever happened to set this whole imbroglio in motion.

Quote:
What's the user to official ratio around here. Seems we have an awful lot of Chiefs and very few Indians.

We had one admin and two mods. One of the mods has changed forums and doesn't come around much anymore. The admin just quit. That leaves me and the rest of you indians and I aint nobody's chief.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 06:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Greger
...and I aint nobody's chief...

The "What's for Dinner" thread begs to differ... smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 05:19 PM

LOL...I'm a pretty good cook, everybody who knows me knows that.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 05:26 PM

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
LOL...I'm a pretty good cook, everybody who knows me knows that.

So you are a chief. smile Good to know! laugh
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 09:03 PM

I'm having to learn to do it from a wheelchair now. Not all of it yet but that day aint far off.

And I had no idea Ledbetter did that song! It was an old juke box favorite in bars for years. No idea who did it.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/26/20 09:31 PM


Uncanny resemblance...



coffee
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/28/20 07:15 PM

I will never trust a poll again.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/28/20 10:10 PM

Hilarious thing about Trump's new Executive Order: He wants to make social media responsible for the contents of user's posts, because Twitter added fact check URLs to two of his posts. But he is the main beneficiary of the current "no responsibility" law! If Twitter had to monitor and remove harmful posts, they would have to censor almost every post Trump makes. They would also have to remove all nazi and White Supremacy content!

What he really wants is the right to lie and control the message totally. He can do that, on his own web site. It already exists.

Next he will want to overturn Citizens United!
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/28/20 11:13 PM


Trump is trying to solve a problem that doesn’t exist — with powers he doesn’t have. The guy is a fcking moron. coffee
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/29/20 05:18 PM

Oops: I saw that coming a mile away.

One Of The First California Counties To Reopen Is Closing Again

Quote:
Lassen County, a county of 30,000 people in the far reaches of Northern California, was one of the first places in the state to reopen in early May. But this week, it became the first to reverse course because of a resulting coronavirus outbreak.

The county’s public health officer, Dr. Kenneth Korver, announced the decision on Tuesday after confirming the county’s first four cases of COVID-19.


And confirmed cases are just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/29/20 06:47 PM

Just called my local Home Depot to order some lumber. Nice guy. Told me they have been hiring because they are having all-time record sales. Restaurants and airlines may be screwed, but home improvement stores are going to do fine.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/29/20 06:59 PM

Significant development in the Minneapolis police killing: Minneapolis City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins said Floyd and Chauvin knew each other for many years because they worked security at the same night club. Both men worked at El Nuevo Rodeo on Lake Street before their fatal encounter.

So this probably was NOT a random police killing of a Black man, but some kind of a beef between the two of them! Chauvin has already been charged with Third Degree Murder and Manslaughter. In light of this new information, I would not be surprised if the murder charge was escalated.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/29/20 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Significant development in the Minneapolis police killing: Minneapolis City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins said Floyd and Chauvin knew each other for many years because they worked security at the same night club. Both men worked at El Nuevo Rodeo on Lake Street before their fatal encounter.

So this probably was NOT a random police killing of a Black man, but some kind of a beef between the two of them! Chauvin has already been charged with Third Degree Murder and Manslaughter. In light of this new information, I would not be surprised if the murder charge was escalated.

Either NBC or PBS news organization (NBC or PBS are the only two that I watch) interviewed the owner of the El Neuvo Rodeo and he only mentioned that Floyed worked there as a security officer and had been recently laid-off due to the pandemic.

I wonder why he didn't mention that Chauvin worked there too? Hmm
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/29/20 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Significant development in the Minneapolis police killing: Minneapolis City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins said Floyd and Chauvin knew each other for many years because they worked security at the same night club. Both men worked at El Nuevo Rodeo on Lake Street before their fatal encounter.

So this probably was NOT a random police killing of a Black man, but some kind of a beef between the two of them! Chauvin has already been charged with Third Degree Murder and Manslaughter. In light of this new information, I would not be surprised if the murder charge was escalated.


The assumption among thin blue line supporters is that he resisted arrest. He committed no crime, was acquainted with the arresting officer, and as a security guard he understood the protocols.

The cop just killed him because he could. 18 previous complaints against him. Four cops watched him do it. Perfectly in line as far as they were concerned.

Pigs. Plain and simple. There are no good cops. Sometimes bad cops do good things. Don't be fooled. They will kill you in a heartbeat for no reason at all.

You've seen them dancing and playing hoops with kids...
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/30/20 01:53 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Oops: I saw that coming a mile away.

One Of The First California Counties To Reopen Is Closing Again

Quote:
Lassen County, a county of 30,000 people in the far reaches of Northern California, was one of the first places in the state to reopen in early May. But this week, it became the first to reverse course because of a resulting coronavirus outbreak.

The county’s public health officer, Dr. Kenneth Korver, announced the decision on Tuesday after confirming the county’s first four cases of COVID-19.


And confirmed cases are just the tip of the iceberg.

Gaven Newsom spoke about this to the Ladies of The View today. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/31/20 01:50 PM





smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/31/20 06:09 PM



Trump's Fascist America

Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/31/20 08:42 PM



Anonymous is said to have dumped 50 documents relating to Trump on Twitter last night. I found one of them.
Posted by: HalBrown

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/31/20 10:52 PM

I see that I am still registered here and can post, and that Greger, pondering, and pdx rick are still here.(Who would have predicted I'd end up in Portland myself). I am sorry in many ways that I now longer writing a regular column for CHB but Doug didn't want the kind of sometimes snarky stuff I wrote. However I am also disappointed in Daily Kos because it is so difficult to get readers what with 50 posts listed by community members. I spend up to two hours writing them. Today's was no except and from what I can tell only 12 people read it. I write original stuff and find that people who just post short excepts to news stories end up being recommended and stay online all day. I wish Kos would have two sections, one for news and like The NY Times and Wash. Post another for Opinion. I also wish Doug would make CHB like it was in the old days when there were six columnists including myself writing opinion. Oh well. My stories are always on my blog too, halbrown.org and on https://www.dailykos.com/user/HalBrown/history
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 05/31/20 11:31 PM


Hi Hal. smile I may be "pdx" rick, but I'm 230 miles north in the South Sound now.

laugh
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/01/20 12:29 AM

Hey, Hal! I read your blog daily, keep up the good works!! I frequently repost gems from there here and elsewhere.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/01/20 01:20 AM

Quote:
I spend up to two hours writing them.

Hiya, Hal! I sometimes spend two hours writing a single paragraph. After a while I forget what I was writing about and wander off...

You'll have about 8-9 readers here but it's a good place to come get things off your chest.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/01/20 06:45 AM

Hi Hal,

You can always post them in RR. It's almost midnight Pacific Time and we have 38 guests. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/01/20 01:29 PM



Are you for America? Or Trump? Hmm

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/03/20 12:12 PM



Steve King (R-IA) was primaried last night. I'm sure that racist pig did NAZI that coming. smile

It's about time the Republican swamp gets drained. MoscowMItch, Susan Collins, Miss Lindsey - you all are next. laugh
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/03/20 06:35 PM

The funny thing about King is that he barely won over the Democrat last election. Iowa (and other) Republicans could see the flaming handwriting on the wall (as in “Mene, Mene, Tekel u-Pharsin”). So they backed a non-KKK candidate instead. Who might actually beat the Democratic candidate!

But I guess reasonable Republican candidates are better than a burning poop-sack on your front porch like King.
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/04/20 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all


But I guess reasonable Republican candidates are better than a burning poop-sack on your front porch like King.


New dude isn't reasonable. He's just not an actual overt Nazi.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/04/20 09:59 PM

Bet Tuk-Sun was a hot one today!
Posted by: Hamish Howl

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/05/20 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: logtroll
Bet Tuk-Sun was a hot one today!


107 at the airport yesterday and today.

It was 111 where I am.

Not too bad.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/05/20 04:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Hamish Howl
Originally Posted By: logtroll
Bet Tuk-Sun was a hot one today!

It was 111 where I am.

Not too bad.

That may have something to do with all the AZ license plates I see around here this time of year.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/05/20 11:20 PM




Who do you Trust? The commander or the coward?



smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/06/20 02:17 AM

Quote:
That may have something to do with all the AZ license plates I see around here this time of year.


Or here. Lots of zonies practically have dual residency.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/07/20 04:58 AM


Who held the Bible better? Hitler - at least he didn't hold the Bible upside down. coffee

Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/07/20 06:48 AM

I wonder if that's one of those AntiChrist thingies: If he holds it right side up, he bursts into flames. Notice he never entered the church...
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/07/20 02:45 PM

This might be his best ever...

Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/08/20 01:42 AM

Went to work on the log cabin again today, which is northeast of the forest fire that started a couple of nights ago (lightning). Kinda windy and the fire grew from 50 to 450 acres and they closed the road while we were working, so had to take the long way home. We're chinking the wall logs and putting linseed oil on the trusses - looking good!
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/08/20 04:30 AM

Gotta be careful with linseed oil. Spooky how it can just spontaneously combust and start fires long after you leave and go home. But I'm sure you know not to leave rags soaked in it in the trash.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/08/20 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Gotta be careful with linseed oil. Spooky how it can just spontaneously combust and start fires long after you leave and go home. But I'm sure you know not to leave rags soaked in it in the trash.

True, dat. I’ve never seen it happen but heard lots of stories. It’s possible with almost any oil but I think linseed tended to be one that people would use in a way that resulted in heavily soaked rags. It also takes a very long time to cure unless dosed with Japan drier. We’re not using rags and we are using Japan drier. The natural polymerization process, a form of oxidation, is pretty exothermic and when it occurs in a pile of rags the heat can build up to the combustion temperature. If the rags aren’t piled it won’t spontaneously combust.

Linseed comes from the flax plant. It’s not as good as tung oil, which we used on the floor, but it’s cheaper (especially since I already had ten gallons from 15 years ago forgotten in the crawl space - I was surprised it was still good). I hear good things about hemp oil but haven’t used any yet.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/08/20 05:18 PM

I use hemp oil all the time...

Some places have special trash cans for that, usually painted red.
I think they're sealed so there's not enough oxygen to support combustion if it occurs.

A lit cigarette once got sucked into my shop's dust collection system.

Same sort of thing. A sawblade hitting a nail can do it too. Tiny red hot pieces of steel in sawdust. It builds and builds and then...POOF.

And theeeere's a fan blowing on it.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/09/20 03:22 AM



Virginia man who plowed his truck into Black Lives Matter crowd is KKK President

Who's surprised by this? Hmm , coffee
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/09/20 06:31 PM

After this COVID crisis is over, I'm hoping some of us regulars can meet. I've had that opportunity a few times, and had another planned, but the virus got in the way. NM and Southern Cal are on my agenda, still. Any other volunteers? BTW, miss the meets, Rick. I was going to have brews with MA R, too, but that got nixed by my wife's condition at the time. I missed Phil when I was in LA, and forever regret that.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/09/20 06:48 PM



Rocksus and I can meet mostly whenever you want NW_P. smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/10/20 06:40 PM

I really like this legal filing by the retired judge appointed by the court to argue against the Flynn dismissal:

Abuse of Power

Quote:
“The Government’s ostensible grounds for seeking dismissal are conclusively disproven by its own briefs filed earlier in this very proceeding,” Gleeson wrote. “They contradict and ignore this Court’s prior orders, which constitute law of the case. They are riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact. And they depart from positions that the Government has taken in other cases.”


Trump and Barr do evil stuff, but the one saving grace is that as incompetents they hire other incompetents to do their dirty work.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/11/20 02:13 AM

I'm going to be kind of busy elsewhere for a while and won't be able to keep up with all the goings on here. I'm playing Fallout 4 and will be busy in the other room. I'll try to stop by every day.

PIA, if GNT wants to come back it's perfectly okay. I don't hold any grudges and I did enjoy meandering through his walls of text. I know you two were Covid buddies and I sincerely apologize for f*cking that up. My words were cruel and I apologize for that as well, but right that minute I wanted him gone. It was equivalent to a cop striking a protestor. I was pissed and I lashed out.

So because Fallout 4 is occupying most of my screen time I'll make myself scarce around here for a while.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/11/20 10:51 PM

I confess, I was a bit surprised by that whole thing. We usually seem to be pretty tolerant of various opinions here. But he left because he wanted to leave. If you feel the need to communicate with him, I can relay a message. Your call, Greger.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 01:00 AM




Miss Lindsey gets pwn3d. smile


Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 01:41 AM

Hey rick. What if the riot cops shot this into the crowds along with imbibing along themselves and seeing the results of these combined actions?

C11 H15 NO2

Previously tried to cut and paste the molecular formula but “it” didn’t like it. Don’t know how to write the “lower case” numbers. And BTW, I am only half kidding at this point.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 01:50 AM


Benzodioxolylbutanemine? C11H15NO2, i don't get it. Hmm
Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 01:52 AM

It was hopefully MDMA, although my chemistry could be a little rough at this moment.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 02:59 AM



Gotcha. smile

That's 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine. Good stuff, I highly recommend it. laugh

Not all C11H15NO2s are the same. Depends on where the H's are attached. smile
Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 05:00 AM

Quote:
Depends on where the H's are attached.

Indeed the H’1s and the H’2’s. The add into the mix the “non binaries” and you’ve got yetself a helluva stew!
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 08:56 PM

Actually, the H's go anywhere there is not something else. It's the other stuff like oxygen and nitrogen that are important. And of course the basic carbon ring and chain structure. All the cool stuff has a nitrogen right in one of the rings.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/14/20 10:57 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Actually, the H's go anywhere there is not something else. It's the other stuff like oxygen and nitrogen that are important. And of course the basic carbon ring and chain structure. All the cool stuff has a nitrogen right in one of the rings.

You're our resident chemist P_I_A can you synthesize some 3,4 -C11H15NO2 and send me some? smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/15/20 03:45 AM

Individuals have not been able to buy any reagents from lab supply houses for a few years now, courtesy of the DEA. So amateur chemistry is dead as a hobby in the US. Even for guys who want to do perfectly legal stuff, like play with batteries or heat storage.

Anyway, based on my experiences as a youth, all the really fun stuff has an indole ring in it, like psilocybin and DMT. And anybody can make those with stuff they can order on the internet.

Just a fun fact: You can start an MDMA synthesis with black pepper from Costco. It's all the in between stuff that's impossible to get.

Anyway, can't you just buy that stuff at raves? No raves now, I suppose, but wouldn't an MDMA trip sitting home alone be really sad?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/15/20 05:09 PM

Surprise: The Supreme Court (including Roberts and Gorsuch) think LGBTQ people are human beings with equal rights!

LGBTQ Employees Are Protected By Civil Rights

Finally. One of the original plaintiffs actually died a month ago. Sad she never got to see her victory.

Trump and Republican years-long efforts to legalize discrimination against LGBTQ people, and to pack the Supreme Court with conservatives, just FAILED completely. They spent millions of dollars to get Gorsuch on the court and his opinion just made all the the Trump administration rules to discriminate illegal.

Dozens of rules or laws are now going to be overturned, and there's not a damn thing Trump or the Senate can do about it.

The Supreme Court also just upheld California's sanctuary laws. You lose, Donnie! As usual.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/16/20 04:35 AM

Quote:
You lose, Donnie! As usual


Have you ever seen anyone so consistently on the wrong side of history?

Every minute between now and November is going to be a microwave minute.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/16/20 04:45 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all

I hope the Transgender peeps get their military jobs back. smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/16/20 12:29 PM

Some statues of Juan de Onate are now the target of the Anti Brutal Oppressors Brigade. Onate was a Conquistador who led the invasion and theft of much of New Mexico in the way-back of the 16th century. Some argue that removing statues of historical figures is the same as removing history, but isn’t everything that happens today just the future’s history?

Maybe it’s more like there’s an expiration date on some history, so it has to be removed from the shelf in order to restock with fresher and more healthy history.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/16/20 01:05 PM

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
H. sapiens is the species that invents symbols in which to invest passion and authority, then forgets that symbols are inventions. -Joyce Carol Oates, writer (b. 16 Jun 1938)
Posted by: Irked

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/16/20 10:39 PM

The removal of statues is not the erasure of history. It is literally the removal of horrible human beings from their pedestals of veneration. All of these mass murderers and / or traitors will still be in the history books that chronicle their crimes, they just won’t occupy places of honor in our public spaces.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/16/20 11:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Irked
The removal of statues is not the erasure of history. It is literally the removal of horrible human beings from their pedestals of veneration. All of these mass murderers and / or traitors will still be in the history books that chronicle their crimes, they just won’t occupy places of honor in our public spaces.

Agreed.

However, Conservaies don't view it that way...you're erasing their history.

Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/17/20 02:25 AM


#TrumpIsNotWell




Hmm

Posted by: perotista

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/17/20 05:19 PM

"30% Say Black Lives Matter More Than All Lives"

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...tm_medium=email

Notice the trend since 2015 and then this:

"Sixty percent (60%) of whites and 61% of other minority voters put all lives first. Among blacks, 44% say black lives matter; 47% all lives matter."

I'm fairly new here, although I have followed BLM for a long time especially on another site. I think the choice of names, "Black Lives Matter," by itself was a bad PR move. That it should have been, "Black Lives Matter Too, or also." Leaving off the too or also leaves the impression that to them, only black lives matter and no one else. Although that couldn't be farther from the truth.

The initial motive was to say, "Hey, our lives matter also." Not just yours. But that isn't the perception out there among the masses. Very bad PR choice of the name. But the trend now is in BLM's favor despite the name and its implication.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/17/20 06:09 PM

Originally Posted By: perotista
"30% Say Black Lives Matter More Than All Lives"

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_...tm_medium=email

Notice the trend since 2015 and then this:

"Sixty percent (60%) of whites and 61% of other minority voters put all lives first. Among blacks, 44% say black lives matter; 47% all lives matter."

I'm fairly new here, although I have followed BLM for a long time especially on another site. I think the choice of names, "Black Lives Matter," by itself was a bad PR move. That it should have been, "Black Lives Matter Too, or also." Leaving off the too or also leaves the impression that to them, only black lives matter and no one else. Although that couldn't be farther from the truth.

The initial motive was to say, "Hey, our lives matter also." Not just yours. But that isn't the perception out there among the masses. Very bad PR choice of the name. But the trend now is in BLM's favor despite the name and its implication.

Pretty sure it's the overall, broader idea versus semantics at play here. smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/17/20 08:56 PM

Black Lives Matter says nothing about other races. I think the only people who see it as diminishing the importance of White lives, would be the racists who feel the need to be superior over Black people.

Our national zeitgeist until very recently has been Black Lives Don't Matter.
Posted by: perotista

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/18/20 11:57 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Black Lives Matter says nothing about other races. I think the only people who see it as diminishing the importance of White lives, would be the racists who feel the need to be superior over Black people.

Our national zeitgeist until very recently has been Black Lives Don't Matter.

I think you stumbled on the problem with the overall perception of BLM. They say nothing about the other races leaving the impression that only Black Lives Matter. It's like I said, it is a bad PR problem with the name itself. If this was a political campaign slogan, it would have been changed immediately once it became clear of how a majority of the people perceived it. A huge handicap. You can say only racists, that probably fits nicely into your political agenda and view.

There aren't that many folks who follow politics closely enough as those on this site or other political sites. They hear the name, Black Lives Matter and then tend to think or ask, What about all other races, about every life?

The name itself, not its agenda is a turnoff to 60% of whites, 61% of all other minorities other than blacks. Now I don't think you can call 60% of all whites and 61% of all other minorities than blacks racist. That's too easy a fall back.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/18/20 04:55 PM



The only ones that seem to be bothered by the BLM message are white nationalists like Matt Geatz. Hmm
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/18/20 07:44 PM



Another Lincoln Project Ad: smile

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 12:18 AM



Jina

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 06:59 AM

I've been absent for a bit. My honey and I had the opportunity to enjoy our lakeside timeshare - it just reopened - so we took it. This week would have been my family reunion - that was canceled due to COVID. Then this week. Wow. Four SC decisions this week - LGBTQ+, DACA, no gun cases accepted (leaving all regulations in place), and no sanctuary city review (leaving sanctuary ordinances in place), which makes me worried about the abortion cases still pending. CJ Roberts likes to "balance" the Court's decisions. Then, there are the shootings in Atlanta and New Mexico that got me all stirred up, and commenting, and Amy Klobuchar withdrew from V.P. consideration. My head is spinning. My emotions all over the place. I need y'all to get me centered again.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 12:44 PM

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
Having been unable to strengthen justice, we have justified strength. -Blaise Pascal, philosopher and mathematician (19 Jun 1623-1662)
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I've been absent for a bit. My honey and I had the opportunity to enjoy our lakeside timeshare - it just reopened - so we took it. This week would have been my family reunion - that was canceled due to COVID. Then this week. Wow. Four SC decisions this week - LGBTQ+, DACA, no gun cases accepted (leaving all regulations in place), and no sanctuary city review (leaving sanctuary ordinances in place), which makes me worried about the abortion cases still pending. CJ Roberts likes to "balance" the Court's decisions. Then, there are the shootings in Atlanta and New Mexico that got me all stirred up, and commenting, and Amy Klobuchar withdrew from V.P. consideration. My head is spinning. My emotions all over the place. I need y'all to get me centered again.

Indeed, it's been yet another bad "infastruture week" for Donald Trump. coffee
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 05:05 PM

Quote:
I need y'all to get me centered again.


I suggest video gaming to gather your inner chi.

I've had to step away from current events a bit to avoid being overwhelmed with it all. There's just been too much too fast.
Posted by: Greger

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 05:08 PM

Did you know that it's Windows 10 that makes it hard to manipulate text in online dialogue boxes?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 07:46 PM

I always suspected that once the Supreme Court got around to it, Trump's silly legal theories would go down in flames. I believe Roberts sees his legacy and place in the history books as more important than the Party that nominated him. He's no dummy: The future is always going to be more along the lines of Progressives because human perception of time only runs in one direction. So how future legal analysts see the Roberts Court is going to be through a more liberal lens.

Soon the court has to decide on the right of congress to oversee the executive branch versus the Imperial Presidency. Right from the beginning, the founders always described checks and balances. I can't see Roberts destroying that, and those decisions will be much more devastating for Trump. These are just the warm-up.

Trump's latest silly legal theory is that anything Bolton said to him is classified. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of the whole classification system, and I think the lower court is going to scold the Justice Department lawyers for filing the prior constraint suit.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/19/20 09:23 PM



Anyone see MA_Republican in that piccy? smile
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/20/20 02:32 PM

Fun new 'pun'ishing rhymed phrase - "petty vendetti".

It describes the neurotic need to poke and prick persons problematic to personal psychoses.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/20/20 02:34 PM

Example: "Trump is exercising petty vendetti against those who turn against him."
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/20/20 05:11 PM



Trump's petty vendettis against ALL his real and perceived enemies validates Stormy's description of his inadequately small mushroom.

smile
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/20/20 08:52 PM

At least he never has to see it. That would just piss him off. He probably has not seen it for years.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/21/20 01:28 PM



Trump packed them in last night in Tulsa. smile

Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/21/20 01:33 PM


Brad Parscale got pwn3d by mischievous tik tok teens. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/21/20 02:02 PM


Can you imagine being a MAGAt with no life, sitting for days outside of an arena where you could walk in and have pretty much any seat you wanted when the doors finally opened?

Tulsa MAGAts really need to get a life. smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: RoundTable - SPRING 2020 - 06/21/20 02:46 PM


Sitting all alone in the nosebleed seats at Trump's Tullsa rally. Awwww...poor MAGAt. frown