Authoritarian to Authoritarian

Posted by: NW Ponderer

Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/19/17 01:01 AM

OH. MY. GOD.Trump congratulates Turkish president on winning sweeping new powers in contested referendum.; For Trump, no qualms in embracing autocratic leaders; Donald Trump Has a Conflict of Interest in Turkey. Just Ask Donald Trump..
Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/19/17 02:57 AM

My Man. Deejay T!

He knows how to rockum. But he is still attempting the art of rollum.
Posted by: Greger

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/19/17 03:33 PM

Who was that Turkish fellow Erdogan wanted to extradite back to Turkey? Has Trumpsky signed those papers yet?
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/23/17 03:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Greger
Who was that Turkish fellow Erdogan wanted to extradite back to Turkey? Has Trumpsky signed those papers yet?
Fethullah Gulen. As of right now, no, but it would have happened had Michael Flynn not been removed. Our ally Turkey is in crisis and needs our support - by Michael Flynn; Ex-CIA chief: Michael Flynn's firm discussed removing Turkish cleric from U.S. - ChiTrib.
Posted by: Greger

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/23/17 03:56 PM

Ah well...I suppose Trump can't get everything wrong all at once.
But if he sees a way to profit from it or views it as a means to lash out at perceived enemies ICE will be at his door with deportation papers.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/24/17 12:04 AM

Trump has a unique set of skills. He has the ability to get many things wrong at once.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/24/17 02:46 AM

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Trump has a unique set of skills. He has the ability to get many things wrong at once.

That stellar ability is unparalleled. smile
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/25/17 02:21 AM

Why Putin and Trump both like Le Pen - CNN.

Quote:
On one hand, Donald Trump's praise of France's far right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen, who appears to have received enough votes in Sunday's election to advance to the May 7 runoff, is not surprising. Le Pen, like Trump, ran a campaign that was anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim and traded on white supremacist themes. (It's no coincidence that former Klan leader David Duke has publicly praised both Le Pen and Trump.)

On the other hand, you would think Trump would be hesitant to publicly praise a candidate like Le Pen, an avid supporter of Vladimir Putin, particularly given that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said just two weeks ago that US-Russian relations had reached an all time low.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 04/30/17 11:28 PM

Trump’s ‘Very Friendly’ Talk With Duterte Stuns Aides and Critics Alike
I'm not stunned. Trump imagined himself a dictator and is getting tips from other strongmen.
Posted by: Irked

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 05/01/17 10:49 PM

Duterte, Putin, Erdogan, and Sisi are the ideal. They've got this governing gig down: they say something and it happens. Like in business and decidedly not like the current situation in America.

Today, a so-called judge on an island in the Pacific or a handful of squabbling - very low-level - representatives can interrupt and countervail the duty the president has to execute the law. By the time we've finished stalking stocking the federal judiciary and have successfully whipped the pups in line, the Boss will be able to deliver the change the country elected him to bring about.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 05/01/17 11:10 PM

"I would be honored to meet with Kim Jong Un" - President Donald Trump

You know, Dennis Rodman can be forgiven, because he's Dennis Rodman.
It's a good thing that the old frustrated Austrian house painter isn't still alive. I'm sure he would be honored to meet him, too.
Posted by: NW Ponderer

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 05/02/17 12:42 AM

He's honored to praise and emulate him, anyway.
Posted by: Ken Condon

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 05/02/17 01:30 AM

These cast of dictatorial characters are those for whom Trump aspires. It has been obvious from day one that strongman leaders are his role and wet dream models. And hold his most dear aspirations while he works up his perspirations.

It would not be so disconcerting if Mr. Trump did not have his enormous cast of sycophantic lemmings who will love him all the more for that no matter what outrageous stunts he pulls—— Anywhere. D. Trump had commented awhile back on the campaign trail that he could shoot someone in broad daylight in NYC, with many witnesses present, and his followers would not care. Yer darn tootin they wouldn’t care! In fact, if the hypothetical victim happened to be a Clinton/Obama “liberal” it would be all the better, and they just might then and there fire up a celebratory parade in his honor.

Mr. Trump will always have his 40% who will love and adore him no matter what he does. The more outrageous behavior the better. The big question is— how do the rest of us deal with that very sizable and dangerous minority when the chit soon hits the fan as it will—-Big Time…..
Posted by: Senator Hatrack

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/08/19 08:01 PM

Because Pres. Trump was not only honored to meet Kim Jong Un but actually did North Korea has started to get rid of its nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Senator Hatrack

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/08/19 08:06 PM

A quote attributed to FDR is “Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.” He was talking about the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza García (1896-1956). Dealing with dictators is unfortunately part of our foreign policy.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/08/19 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
Because Pres. Trump was not only honored to meet Kim Jong Un but actually did North Korea has started to get rid of its nuclear weapons.


Sorry but it doesn't appear that Kim is getting rid of any nukes.
In fact, somewhat the opposite.
You're definitely old enough to know how the DPRK plays the game.
Putting a reality show context on it doesn't change the way Kim plays it, it just changes the way the presentation looks to the average person.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/08/19 09:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
A quote attributed to FDR is “Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.” He was talking about the Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza García (1896-1956). Dealing with dictators is unfortunately part of our foreign policy.


Praising them effusively however, seems to be the coin of the realm with one particular administration.
Posted by: logtroll

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/08/19 11:29 PM

Is Kim Jong Un our son of a bitch?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 04:05 AM

The day North Korea gets rid of a nuclear weapon is the day I'll eat a flying pig.

Kim is well aware of what happened to The Ukraine. They gave up their nukes to Russia, and a few years later Russia has invaded and is occupying a quarter of their country.

Nope, they just stopped testing them, mainly because they work fine and they are expensive. No need to test them. Instead, look for North Korea to steadily improve their delivery systems. Which they do keep testing. Like last week!
Posted by: Senator Hatrack

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 04:06 AM

At least Pres. Trump got to meet with Kim Jong Un to start the discussion. Trump is the first American president to visit North Korea. That is more than any of his predecessors have been able to. Whether or not we like a dictator doesn't matter. When a dictator has nuclear weapons and is building missiles that can deliver them to Phoenix, AZ we need to be talking with him.

For the record the Korean War is not over. In 1953 we signed a truce with North Korea. A truce does not end a war, a peace treaty does.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 04:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
At least Pres. Trump got to meet with Kim Jong Un to start the discussion. Trump is the first American president to visit North Korea. That is more than any of his predecessors have been able to. Whether or not we like a dictator doesn't matter. When a dictator has nuclear weapons and is building missiles that can deliver them to Phoenix, AZ we need to be talking with him.

For the record the Korean War is not over. In 1953 we signed a truce with North Korea. A truce does not end a war, a peace treaty does.


I'd be cautious about the "able to" part because both the Clinton,
Bush and Obama White House were all invited, and they wisely decided against it.

Both Clinton and Carter HAVE in fact visited but after they left office.
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 05:29 AM

US foreign policy for many Presidential cycles has been NOT to legitimize Kim by meeting with him as an equal. Too late for that now. He did talk with South Korea for as long as he has been running NK, like his father before him. They consider him very difficult to make any deal with.

International diplomacy is a carrot and stick game, with war the ultimate stick. Trump's guys only know about sticks, so they stink at the game. That's why they keep on beating our allies, when every competent President before him had a lot of carrots being exchanged.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 11:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Senator Hatrack
At least Pres. Trump got to meet with Kim Jong Un to start the discussion.

My favorite part of that meeting is when they held hands and jumped back and forth over the DMZ line like two little school girls.

smile
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 11:23 AM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
...He did talk with South Korea for as long as he has been running NK, like his father before him. They consider him very difficult to make any deal with.

Golly, difficult making deals with a known liar? I'm speechless. gobsmacked

North Korea previously pledged denuclearization in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2016, 2017, 2018, and 2019. Each pledge was a lie. If you believe any new promises Kim makes the future, Trump has five failed casinos in Atlantic City to sell you.

smile
Posted by: Greger

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 05:28 PM

Quote:
International diplomacy is a carrot and stick game, with war the ultimate stick. Trump's guys only know about sticks, so they stink at the game. That's why they keep on beating our allies, when every competent President before him had a lot of carrots being exchanged.


Couldn't agree more. Trump doesn't make deals. he makes demands.
It's a tactic that works great in the real estate industry, not so much in global politics. If you don't meet his demands there's no deal. And even if you do, contracts were made to be broken...
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 08/09/19 06:17 PM

Trump is essentially Kim, as far as promises go. You make a deal, shake hands, and then when he leaves you discover your wallet is missing.
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 09/04/19 07:28 PM

In other news, one of Trump's favorite people got approved by the Senate to lead the Justice Department's criminal division.

Senate confirms Brian Benczkowski, justice official who worked for Russian bank

Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 09/05/19 01:29 AM

And in still other news, a Republican governor in Arizona is experimenting with something the Republicans got very upset over in the FDR era - COURT PACKING!!

Quote:
Gov. Doug Ducey signed legislation Wednesday to expand the state Supreme Court to seven justices from five, saying the additional judges will allow the court to take on more cases and ensure "swift justice."


Quote:
"Then he replaced every Democrat on the judicial nominating commission with Republicans and GOP-allied "independents" so he could put Montgomery on the court."

Twitter
Posted by: Jeffery J. Haas

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 09/20/19 02:27 AM

Trump's main lawyer (how many has he gone through so far?) now says that President Trump cannot be criminally investigated while in office, at all!

He is quite simply, above the law as far as they're concerned.
Humble Pi says Trump's only getting the bush league lawyers now, seeing as how maybe Trump is stiffing attorneys for their fees now.

To be honest, asserting that Trump can't be criminally investigated is equal to monkeys throwing feces.
It doesn't take much juris doctor derring do (or doo doo) to fling feces, does it? LOL ROTFMOL
Posted by: Greger

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 09/22/19 12:50 AM

Quote:
Humble Pi says Trump's only getting the bush league lawyers now, seeing as how maybe Trump is stiffing attorneys for their fees now.

isn't Rudy Giuliani still his attorney?
Posted by: pondering_it_all

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 09/22/19 04:03 AM

Poo flinging is Rudy's main strategy these days.
Posted by: pdx rick

Re: Authoritarian to Authoritarian - 09/22/19 02:48 PM

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Poo flinging is Rudy's main strategy these days.

Conservative Giuliani's entire approach is built on disinformation and the manipulation of facts. This has always been the modus operandi of Conservative politicians. SEE: Dick Cheney

Hmm