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#317193 - 10/24/19 01:55 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Trump's personal attorney William Consovoy argued in court yesterday that a president could, indeed, shoot someone on the street and walk away scott-free - but only while s/he's president.

Here's one way to test the validity of that premise: Let's go back to when Obama was president and Moscow Mitch refused to bring the Garland nomination to the senate to advise and consent... Obama could have simply shot the corrupt old bastard and said, "Who else wants some a that kinda action?" We would now have Garland on the bench and the beer-drinkin' frat boy still raping passed out girls on Friday nights.
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#317194 - 10/24/19 02:01 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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About the umpire who is predicting "cival war"? People aren't taking into account that the guy said there'd be cival war only if Trump gets "impeached that way." I reckon he wants Trump to get impeached in the way that the Republicans used on Bill Clinton - for lying about an affair. I'm sure the Dems could oblige, as Trump has no shortage of illicit affairs and illegal payoffs to choose from. And they didn't happen while he was president (well, maybe some did) so he can't claim immunity from the law.

I could be wrong, but the Ump sounds like a flaming far-left liberal radical to me.
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#317195 - 10/24/19 02:39 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Civil war? Who ya reckon he's gonna shoot with that AR15?

Republicans just gonna come out of their houses and start gunning down civilians they suspect of being Democrats?
Do they expect us to put on blue hats so they'll know who to shoot? Or will they head to DC en masse to storm the Capital Building.

Law enforcement is all Republican run so I guess they'll join in? Same with the military?

It sounds like a really bad idea to me.
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#317200 - 10/24/19 03:34 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Remember good and decent Americans, it's the conservatives with AR-15. Be careful out there today. smile
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#317203 - 10/24/19 03:39 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: Greger]
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The problem is no one can prevent stupidity or indifference in the electorate.

To maintain our form of government (unless someone wants a different form of government) citizens must remain vigilant and root out the cancers which endanger it. Folks, we are in the midst of not only a Constitutional crisis but an existential crisis. The current occupant of the WH has viciously assaulted all the institutions which form the foundation of our society and bulk work of our government. Only once in over 200 years has the tenuous thread holding reasonable people together in polity been tested. For those of us who believe in the Grand Experiment, it may have been pyrrhic, as the forces which welled up into conflict continue to this day, and is personified by the current occupant of the WH.

I am not so optimistic of the future of our government nor our nation. I believe there is an overwhelming majority of citizens who are either indifferent or too stupid to ensure the continuation of the experiment. Perhaps we are deserving of such a fate or perhaps it is simply part of the evolution of societies.
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#317206 - 10/24/19 03:49 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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WSJ says Trump is too incompetent to impeach. Here is a non-subscription summary.

Most Americans knew that Trump lacks the intellectual and emotional discipline and sophistication to manage a large organization.

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#317216 - 10/24/19 05:40 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: pdx rick]
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I tried to argue something similar with my brother that because he suffers from NPD he would be incapable of aiding his defense if prosecuted. I was however convinced just because he is a narcissist and would lie often, that did not in any way prohibit legal proceedings.

I suspect incompetence will not be excusable. Better would be my dog bite me and I have rabies.
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#317222 - 10/24/19 06:12 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
I suspect incompetence will not be excusable. Better would be my dog bite me and I have rabies.

In Ivanna's 1996 lawsuit against Trump, the suit where she claims he raped her (and subsequently later recanted), Ivanna makes mention of her dog not liking Trump. Trump today still doesn't own a dog.

Dogs know. Hmm
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#317228 - 10/24/19 08:57 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: pdx rick]
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Maybe her dog bite him and he has latent rabies???
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#317230 - 10/24/19 10:47 PM Re: The Impeachment of Donald trump [Re: logtroll]
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Trump lawyer: Trump can’t be prosecuted for shooting someone


It's comforting to know that Barack Obama could have marched onto the floor of Congress, whipped out a Glock and shot that corrupt old codger Mitch McConnell after he decided to tell him "You will not select a Supreme Court justice."
It's also frustrating as Hell.

He could have done it and gotten away with it, and he should have. After all, if Trump is above the law, so was Obama.

In fact, next Dem POTUS should carry several clips and just mow down the entire GOP Senate.
Why stop at just Mitch?
After all, if the President cannot be prosecuted, and can escape for life by a pardon, then clearly the thing to do is for the next Dem POTUS to exterminate the entire Republican House and Senate, get a pardon and walk free.

Just carrying that lawyer's logic to its logical conclusion.
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