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#110373 - 05/06/09 05:27 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: Jeffro]
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#110374 - 05/06/09 05:30 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: Jeffro]
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 Originally Posted By: Jeffro
Rick, I don't really see any of this. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, I just don't see the political infighting that you mention. I also don't know anyone who puts their sexuality first. But, as I said, I'm a bad gay.

I dunno...The Bay Area Reporter reports on the political stuff every now and then when it comes up - and over a cumulation of 18 years of living in the Bay Area, that's the impression that I get.
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#110415 - 05/06/09 11:47 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: Jeffro]
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 Originally Posted By: Jeffro
I also don't know anyone who puts their sexuality first.
yeah I me either...not really
The diva show is a different thing though. That's to raise money.
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#110423 - 05/06/09 11:33 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: olyve]
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I also don't know anyone who puts their sexuality first.

Sexuality? pfffffft. I put mine on a shelf years ago, I doubt if I could even find it now............
I remember when it was the most important thing in the world to me, I just can't recall exactly why.
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#110425 - 05/06/09 11:40 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: Greger]
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 Originally Posted By: Greger
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I also don't know anyone who puts their sexuality first.

Sexuality? pfffffft. I put mine on a shelf years ago, I doubt if I could even find it now............
I remember when it was the most important thing in the world to me, I just can't recall exactly why.


I don't think you're looking hard enough... but, sadly, I know what you mean only too well.
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#110427 - 05/06/09 11:42 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: Mellowicious]
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As I said, it just makes me uncomfortable. But any time a social preference is said to be based on a biological fact, there is a really big potential for prejudice - and that makes me very nervous.


I've been following this thread and I have to say that I agree with Julia. I keep thinking substitute black and white for gay and lesbian and nobody would be comfortable.

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#110428 - 05/06/09 11:43 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: olyve]
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 Originally Posted By: olyve
 Originally Posted By: Jeffro
I also don't know anyone who puts their sexuality first.
yeah I me either...not really
The diva show is a different thing though. That's to raise money.


You are too cute Olyve! I'm thinking the patrons of Blow Buddies put sexuality first as well, but I haven't been there in years!
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#110429 - 05/06/09 11:44 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: EmmaG]
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I just don't get the "uncomfortable" bit.

Do you really contend that biology is unrelated to associations? The science says you are absolutely wrong.
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#110430 - 05/06/09 11:53 PM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: Phil Hoskins]
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No, Phil, I don't contend that at all, although I'm not clear on what science you are referring to.

What makes me uncomfortable is all the stereotyping. I have had many friends over the years who are gay and I can not lump them together in any way other than that they are gay. Each one is an individual. I can't say that all the lesbians are butch or hate gay men or are militant or masculine or any of those things, just as I cannot say that all blacks have rhythm.

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#110436 - 05/07/09 12:19 AM Re: Can gay men and gay women be friends? [Re: EmmaG]
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A lot of people really do fit the stereotypes though! Whether intentionally or not, San Francisco, perhaps, is a place where stereotypical is typical among gays and lesbians and thus Rick's experience rings more true there.
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