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#212687 - 02/12/12 01:11 PM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Schlack]
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#212696 - 02/12/12 03:19 PM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Greger]
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From your link:
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“This JET Energy NANOR(TM) demonstrated a significant energy gain greater than 10,” Swartz wrote.

But--but it goes to 11.

In case some missed my reference

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#212717 - 02/12/12 06:15 PM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Ken Condon]
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So... I mean, really, when you think about it, milliwatts and megawatts are just a few letters different.

If you can make, say, 100 milliwatts of power for a few seconds then you would only need thirty generators to light a 3 watt light bulb for an insufficient amount of time to use the light for anything - if the milliwatts were in the form of electricity.

If your milliwatts are in the form of heat, then you just need a slick way to convert your pretty much useless amount of heat into less than the equivalent in electricity.
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#257361 - 05/23/13 01:30 AM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: logtroll]
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Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi...e After All
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What everyone wanted was something that Rossi has been promising was about to happen for months: An independent test by third parties who were credible. This report was delayed several times to the point where many were wondering whether it was all nothing more than what we have come to see as Rossi’s usual “jam tomorrow” promises. But much to my, and I suspect many other people’s surprise, a report by credible, independent third parties is exactly what we got.

Published on May 16, the paper titled “Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device” would appear to deliver what we wanted.

The paper was authored by Giuseppe Levi of Bologna University, Bologna, Italy; Evelyn Foschi, Bologna, Italy; Torbjörn Hartman, Bo Höistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegnér of Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden; and Hanno Essén, of the Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden. While some of these people have previously been public in their support of Rossi and the E-Cat they are all serious academics with reputations to lose and the paper is detailed and thorough.


Besides reputations, they all have continued employment and grants to lose.

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While a few commentators have raised criticisms concerning how the measurements were made and sources of error others have argued that the energy produced is so significant even knocking off an order of magnitude on either axis still portrays a process with insanely valuable output.

This is not, of course, the last word or even one anywhere near the end of this story but unless this is one of the most elaborate hoaxes in scientific history it looks like the world may well be about to change. How quick will depend solely on Rossi.

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#257364 - 05/23/13 03:47 AM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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A small step, but not yet a sure or convincing one.

IM afraid Ill only be convinced when something goes into production .... (or Rossi is mysteriously killed)
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#257384 - 05/23/13 09:22 AM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Schlack]
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Let's hope to see it go into production before too much longer.

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#257425 - 05/23/13 09:45 PM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Schlack]
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If the independent testing entity is named Martini, there won't be any need for additional PR help. Everyone knows about Martini and Rossi already. ROTFMOL
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#257426 - 05/23/13 10:20 PM Re: Cold fusion demonstration? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Last I saw Martini and Rossi they were on the rocks...
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