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#184469 - 06/16/11 12:15 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: Schlack]
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Originally Posted By: Schlack
Originally Posted By: Perfect Fit
figuring out the possible natural fluctuation range of temps, say , for the mid seventies.


no, still dont get what youre getting at.

the natural fluctuations as per the graph, to me as a layman at least, would seem to be the range of anomolies over the past 1000 years. No modelling required. The point being that the range is now heading beyond what went before.

what exactly is your difficulty with modelling anyway?



Schlacky,

I'm betting you're the one on the right? ThumbsUp
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#184470 - 06/16/11 12:18 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: Stripey]
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Why pick a relatively small time-frame? No useful analysis can be done from such a small sample size. Schlacky gave you a temp graph spanning 700 years.
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#184471 - 06/16/11 12:22 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Why pick a relatively small time-frame? No useful analysis can be done from such a small sample size. Schlacky gave you a temp graph spanning 700 years.


1000, and thats still not a long timeframe, but it is an indicator of recent natural variations.
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#184472 - 06/16/11 12:23 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: logtroll]
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I'm betting you're the one on the right? ThumbsUp


yup, its tucked away Buffalo Bill style
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#184474 - 06/16/11 12:28 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Why pick a relatively small time-frame? No useful analysis can be done from such a small sample size. Schlacky gave you a temp graph spanning 700 years.
Because It's the time frame mentioned by Schlack !

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#184476 - 06/16/11 12:33 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: Perfect Fit]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Why pick a relatively small time-frame? No useful analysis can be done from such a small sample size. Schlacky gave you a temp graph spanning 700 years.
Because It's the time frame mentioned by Schlack !


actually it was you who dragged it out of me, reluctant as i was to pin a date on it, however it does seem that the rate of increase is unusual for the past 1000 years, and is showing no signs of abating as it has done over previous decades in a wavy kind of way (actual science words there!).

But you wanted to beat down on models, please feel free, I'll even join in!
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#184482 - 06/16/11 02:04 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: Stripey]
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Because it is the time frame extracted from Schlack !

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#184483 - 06/16/11 02:27 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: Schlack]
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Originally Posted By: Schlack

what exactly is your difficulty with modelling anyway?

well, my problem here is your problem. If models are used, and you claim that


Originally Posted By: "Schlack"


It is not consistent with the computer models..
then what reasoning have we gotten from you that can be agreed with?


Edited by Perfect Fit (06/16/11 02:35 AM)

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#184484 - 06/16/11 02:29 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: Perfect Fit]
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Originally Posted By: Perfect Fit
Because it is the time frame extracted from Schlack !


PF,

Please state an opinion or present a fact. So far your contributions to this thread are nonsensical, IMO, though there has been a very patient effort by some to give you a chance to participate in what might be an interesting discussion.

Thank you. ThumbsUp
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#184485 - 06/16/11 02:30 AM Re: Increased flood risk linked to global warming [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Perfect Fit
Because it is the time frame extracted from Schlack !


PF,

Please state an opinion or present a fact. So far your contributions to this thread are nonsensical, IMO, though there has been a very patient effort by some to give you a chance to participate in what might be an interesting discussion.

Thank you. ThumbsUp
That is a fact;'twas extracted from Schlack !

Hi Loggy ! Steppin' lightly !


Edited by Perfect Fit (06/16/11 02:51 AM)

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