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#203022 - 12/05/11 08:20 PM Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight?
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Panko crusted, deep fried duck livers & cracklin's with home grown Broccoli.

paired with Relax Cool Red
red riesling.

Homemade white chocolate chip and walnut cookies for dessert!
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#203025 - 12/05/11 08:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Well, after they clean the restrooms at school, sitting down to that nice looking dinner above looks good.

Oh wait! Poor people don't work . They have have no role models and don't know what work is. Never mind.

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#203028 - 12/05/11 08:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Rat on a stick...
Stir fried rat...
etc.
etc.
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#203031 - 12/05/11 08:44 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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#203033 - 12/05/11 08:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Some folks throw away the livers and all that excess neck skin from a duck. Tonight I fried em' up.
From the neck and the rest of the giblets I made Vietnamese duck soup with cellophane noodles. With the drippings from the roast duck I'll make duck gravy and serve that with Mashed potatoes or biscuits,the meat picked off the carcass and the rest of the bones will go to make a little bit of stock for a creamy Duck and Broccoli soup.
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#203034 - 12/05/11 08:58 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Duck livers, huh?

The spousal unit and I were at a Chinese restaurant recently, relaxing over a drink and some appetizers, when the waiter brought a large covered tureen and placed it on the table. As we chatted, the lid of the tureen popped up about half an inch and we could see two beady little black eyes looking at us. At first we thought someone had added something to our cocktails, but a couple of minutes later it happened again.

We called the waiter and told him to watch. Sure enough, it happened a third time. The waiter asked what we order, and I told him chicken surprise. He blinked, then said, "I think I made the mistake. This is a Peking duck."
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#203036 - 12/05/11 09:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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As I recall, rendered duck fat is supposed to be a gourmet version of chicken fat: Used in recipes to add flavor and to spread on bagels and such. Probably pretty good just spread on fresh biscuits like butter.

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#203037 - 12/05/11 09:15 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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My wife and I went to my company's holiday party on Saturday: Chart House right on the beach in Cardiff-by-the-sea. Starters were coconut shrimp, chicken skewers with peanut sauce dip, and bruschetta.

The bruschetta was so good, I tried making some myself last night: I had sourdough toast, very good hothouse tomatoes, fresh red onion, and fresh garlic, but only dried basil. I think it would be much better with more fresh basil and less onion. The onion pretty much drowned out everything else. I'll have to try it again with some pesto spread on the toast and just a bit of minced green onion.

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#203043 - 12/05/11 11:13 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I've got two dozen sweet basil plants about a foot high, I'll soon be able to pick enough to make pesto. Good bruschetta is an art, and not one that I have mastered yet.
I just picked up a Depression Era cookbook and a Black American (Soulfood) Cookbook. I've already found the best bread pudding recipe ever in one of them.
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#203046 - 12/06/11 02:52 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I just picked up a Depression Era cookbook and a Black American (Soulfood) Cookbook.
This Depression Era cookbook?

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#203068 - 12/06/11 11:13 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Small sauteed chicken breast fillet, Italian wedding soup and a small salad. Zowie the Cocker Spaniel and Bobo the toy Poodle got the very last of the Thanksgiving turkey leftovers mixed in with their Science Diet canned food.

The cats, same thing they have every day, the only thing either of them will ever eat, Meow Mix.

Although Snowflake DID wander over to investigate the chicken fat and trimmings in the pan after dinner. But in the end, she just really wanted a few sniffs and a couple of laps. Then back to the Meow Mix. These are the first cats I've ever had that turn their nose up at people treats. Very strange!
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#203069 - 12/06/11 11:22 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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...Bobo the toy Poodle...

ROTFMOL

Hey Jeff, is Bobo a chick magnet for you at the dog park?

Quote:
Lady 1: Look at the ruggedly handsome man
Lady 2: Yes, but he has a toy poodle: Handsome, toy poddle.
Both ladies: Hairdresser!


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#203115 - 12/06/11 08:50 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Uhhhh Rick, (A) I think that might be a gay thing.

But if it isn't I would not remember because this is the first tiny dog I've ever had but then there's (B) the fact that it's actually Karen's doggie, and SHE carries him around wherever she goes.

So I'm-a thinkin he might actually be a dude magnet, for HER.
She doesn't realize how much she gets checked out sometimes.
She might be on wheels but that doesn't seem to stop a lot of guys from taking a second or even third (or fourth) look.

But thanky for the flowers anyway, this ruggedly handsome man has now gained sixty pounds from sitting in the editor chair far more than I'd like to.

Bobo is actually quite a homebody. He is such a wuss.
He's afraid of EVERYTHING!! One time Karen crumpled up a piece of paper to throw it in the trash, damn pooch nearly had a heart attack ROTFMOL

"Bobo it's just a piece of paper!"
(dog is sitting there trembling in fear)

I think we got the runt of the litter, he has no intestinal fortitude, poor lil fella.
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#203116 - 12/06/11 08:51 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Zowie on the other hand is quite the social butterfly.
I could probably take HER to the doggie park and pick up a few strays.

But I don't Karen would be too thrilled at the idea tonbricks
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#203119 - 12/06/11 08:56 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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But anyway, this was our dinner tonight:


MEATLOAF:




No, not that,



but that's STILL MEATLOAF:
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#203121 - 12/06/11 09:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Open face roast duck and gravy sandwich. On homemade bread.

The cookie recipe on the Nestle's white chocolate chips is awesome!
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#203122 - 12/06/11 09:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Mmmmmm, meatloaf, mashed potatoes, and brown gravy. Or just meatloaf with catsup: That's some good eating, either way!

And I love a cold meatloaf slice on sourdough, with catsup & mayo, for lunch the next day.

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#203123 - 12/06/11 09:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I didn't know Nestle's even made white chocolate chips!

That's very good news, since I love a good chocolate chip cookie but my stomache acts up when I eat the real thing.

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#203125 - 12/06/11 09:16 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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It's white chocolate chips and and walnuts or macadamia nuts. Poor folks use walnuts. The coconut doesn't add anything to the cookies. I recommend leaving it out. Unless someone in your household doesn't eat coconut, then by all means put it in so you don't have to share!
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#203130 - 12/06/11 09:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I'm not poor-just plain old middle class, but I had sesame soy chicken, snowpeas steamed with sliced mushrroms and water chestnuts, and fried rice. I had made extra rice the night before, and cooked this up in my wok. Mr. Scoutgal loves this type of dinner. ThumbsUp
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#203133 - 12/06/11 10:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Poor like me love Ramen Noodle.

Duck? Couldn't do it... we had four ducks at WH for 5 years... family ducks... Racoon picked them off one at a time,3 of the 4 in five days. Sad days. Now, Turkey buzzards... that's serious FL food.

Peking duck? ROTFMOL

BTW... the tomatoes in the first pic looked real... we haven't had a real tomato since August.

Dog... How'd the dog get in here? I can see fried cat, but not dog.

I only make one special dish... Turkey Soup (regular turkey)...
About 5 pounds of meat in two huge pots... and the whole neighborhood gets a share. Special ingredient... bouillon.

Today... our wonderful local Chinese Restaurant... elegant and with about 80 entree's. 40 desserts. Fresh Salmon, and almost all home cooked stuff... Mongolian Stir Fry, and great sushi.
Incredibly great food, AYCE but expensive... $5.76 and even more if you're not a senior.

I don't get a chance to talk recipes, but love to eat. Am a well know commonsewer of any food.

Greger... in FL, my favorite delicacy is gator balls. We had a catered cajun type dinner at our park that was great... the ladies wouldn't even look at the gator balls.

So much for this gastronome... Time for my cornflakes.
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#203136 - 12/06/11 10:32 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Mmmmmm, meatloaf, mashed potatoes, and brown gravy. Or just meatloaf with catsup: That's some good eating, either way!

And I love a cold meatloaf slice on sourdough, with catsup & mayo, for lunch the next day.


For potatoes we had Jeff's famous "American Fries".
No it's not some political thing. American Fries are just deep fried sliced potatoes, cooked till they're crispy on the outside and soft on the inside.
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#203137 - 12/06/11 10:32 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I didn't know Nestle's even made white chocolate chips!

That's very good news, since I love a good chocolate chip cookie but my stomache acts up when I eat the real thing.


Is your stomach racist or something? ROTFMOL
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#203169 - 12/07/11 10:54 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Q. Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight?

A. Hamburger Helper?

Probably not gourmet, or even good for you (chemicals), but this peasant thinks that it tastes good, especially with a vegetable (or two) on the side. I don't even read what's in it, because I don't want to know. However, if you're in a hurry or pushed for time, it's not bad. I usually eat fresh food and produce, and very little "processed" food, except flour and meat, but, if you're pressed for time and money, this stuff tastes good. They also have Hamburger Helper for tuna and chicken, which I've tried and they taste good. I don't know what Julia would say, but this peasant thinks that they taste pretty good.

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#203174 - 12/07/11 11:53 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Joe, I've been known to eat plenty of garbage in my day as well. At Sav-A-Lot I just picked up a pack of 8 frozen beef and bean Chimichangas for $2.99. I've been working on a re-model and have been too tired to do much cooking at suppertime. I just turn on the fryer and in a few minutes supper is ready.
But that hamburger helper stuff, if you'll take the time to read the package you just might find that there is nothing in it you don't already have in your pantry at home. Except the oddball preservatives and chemicals and guar gum(ground guar beans) and modified corn starch which are both used as thickeners.
Have you ever made mashed potatoes and Hamburger gravy?
It used to be a favorite of mine when I was a kid. Sort of a depression era Hamburger helper. An onion, chopped, a pound of hamburger, browned with the onion, add a couple tablespoons flour and stir it in to deglaze the pan, then add water or stock while stirring to make it into gravy.
Salt and pepper to taste and enjoy. Also good with noodles.
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#203199 - 12/07/11 03:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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For potatoes we had Jeff's famous "American Fries".
No it's not some political thing. American Fries are just deep fried sliced potatoes, cooked till they're crispy on the outside and soft on the inside.

You should try Numan's personal "Canadian Fries"!
I use organic russet potatoes, well-washed, and leave the skins on. I cut them up so that they are somewhat thicker than regular french fries. I mix them with peanut oil so they are well-coated, lay them on a cookie-sheet, salt and pepper, and bake at 350º-400º Fahrenheit [Yes, I am ashamed to say that I use the crazy, antiquated measure in cooking---my one metric sin!]. Ten minutes on one side, take them out and turn them, five more minutes on the other side.

Not quite as good as gourmet french fries, but tasty, and a lot less fuss and muss.
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#203208 - 12/07/11 04:12 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Greger, growing up, my grandmother and mother made gravy with the drippings of any meat they cooked. They kept a gallon jar and collected bacon greese for use as a flavor enhancer. My grandmother canned everything. I still remember laying in bed and night and hearing the click of the lid in the old mason jars.

One of my favorites was Sand Plum preserves. Sand Plums were a common wild plant in Oklahoma, and we ate them through the summer time.

Another favorite of those times was "Rat Cheese." My grandparents, like a lot of the poor we knew, received commodities, consisting of surplus cheddar cheese, dried milk (I used this for years and still shudder at the thought of the yellow lumps floating in a glass blue water), and butter.
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#203215 - 12/07/11 04:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Not quite as good as gourmet french fries, but tasty, and a lot less fuss and muss.

If you keep your fryer at the ready it is actually less fuss and muss as well as more energy efficient to fry. The oil will last for weeks if it's occasionally strained to remove impurities and never allowed to overheat.
But speaking of Gourmet Frog Eating Gun Dropper Fries. Emeril has this to say about The Perfect French Fry, there's a little more to it than just cutting the potato into batons and tossing them into hot oil. A little more trouble makes a world of difference.
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#203218 - 12/07/11 04:47 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Ozy, I render my own lard and keep it frozen for such times as I need it, primarily for pie crusts. I either use pan drippings for gravy with a meal or discard them. Duck fat is the one exception to that rule, not a drop of it ever goes to waste.
I think almost everyone kept that container of saved grease on hand back in the day when our parents remembered the Great Depression. My Ma used a coffee can, and used the grease from it for gravies and for frying. When it got full she threw it away. I use butter or olive oil normally to make a roux or even fry a few slices of bacon if I'm in a devil may care mood about healthy eating.
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#203220 - 12/07/11 04:56 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I guess I'm just eccentric (to put it politely): I don't much like fries that have a soft mashed-potato-like center and light yellow skin. I think the best french fries (by far) are the ones that get penetrated by the hot oil and are crispy brown well into the center. Sort of like the crispy part of an order of hash browns.

It's rare to find a place that cooks them that way, and even rarer to find a place that does it consistantly. I suspect most of the time I do get them that way, it is because the cook was busy and left them in the deep fryer "too long".

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#203221 - 12/07/11 05:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Is your stomach racist or something?


Not a bit: Soul Food, Mexican, Thai, Indian, Japanese, Chinese, and just about everything else is fine. Cocoa is my Kryptonite: I love chocolate (as dark as possible) but it gives me intense heartburn for several hours. I was taking Prilosec for about a year, but have found I don't ever need it if I just avoid anything containing cocoa. "White chocolate" seems fine, but of course it's not really chocolate. frown

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#203222 - 12/07/11 05:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: itstarted]
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Duck? Couldn't do it...

I lost a whole flock of chickens two years ago. But I didn't stop eating chicken. Wild duck breast is far superior to the Pekin Ducks we can get at the supermarket, but much more difficult to obtain. But still. one taste of my roast duck might change your mind about that.

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my favorite delicacy is gator balls.

These are nothing more than Conch Fritters made with gator tail and a few additional Cajun spices, I recommend a Remoulade dipping sauce. Have you had Bang Bang Shrimp at The Bonefish Grill? To die for! and only $5 bucks on Wednesday night.
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#203226 - 12/07/11 05:15 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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"White chocolate" seems fine, but of course it's not really chocolate
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Au contraire mon frer! White chocolate is made with cocoa butter. It doesn't get more real than that.
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#203231 - 12/07/11 05:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I guess I'm just eccentric (to put it politely): I don't much like fries that have a soft mashed-potato-like center and light yellow skin. I think the best french fries (by far) are the ones that get penetrated by the hot oil and are crispy brown well into the center. Sort of like the crispy part of an order of hash browns.

It's rare to find a place that cooks them that way, and even rarer to find a place that does it consistantly. I suspect most of the time I do get them that way, it is because the cook was busy and left them in the deep fryer "too long".


Five Guys Burgers. You haven't had a good burger and fries if you haven't gone to Five Guys. Darn. Maybe I should send that to them as a slogan. Luckily for me the closest is about 40 miles away or I would weigh 400 pounds.
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#203237 - 12/07/11 05:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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Originally Posted By: churlpat lives
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I guess I'm just eccentric (to put it politely): I don't much like fries that have a soft mashed-potato-like center and light yellow skin. I think the best french fries (by far) are the ones that get penetrated by the hot oil and are crispy brown well into the center. Sort of like the crispy part of an order of hash browns.

It's rare to find a place that cooks them that way, and even rarer to find a place that does it consistantly. I suspect most of the time I do get them that way, it is because the cook was busy and left them in the deep fryer "too long".


Five Guys Burgers. You haven't had a good burger and fries if you haven't gone to Five Guys. Darn. Maybe I should send that to them as a slogan. Luckily for me the closest is about 40 miles away or I would weigh 400 pounds.


We have a Five Guys Burgers just down the street from where I live. But it doesn't come close to In-N-Out! That place is always crowded and has the best burgers always made from fresh(never frozen) ingredients. And Five Guys costs about 3 times as much. I don't go to In-N-Out much either. For the same reason that you cite here, Churl! LOL
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#203238 - 12/07/11 05:57 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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There is a Mom and Pop burger place near me that makes perfect french fries. thick cut, crispy on the outside soft on the inside, and you get a lot for the price. They have almost anything, from breakfast to dinner. Pretty cheap, and good, too. I love their patty melts, and you can even choose what kin d of cheese you like, too.
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#203246 - 12/07/11 06:20 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Considering that french fries are such a simple, unprepossessing food, I wonder why they are so popular. Does it boil down to a simple, atavistic anthropoid delight in fat, carbohydrate and salt?

I imagine texture must be involved, too.
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#203260 - 12/07/11 06:52 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Joe, I've been known to eat plenty of garbage in my day as well. At Sav-A-Lot I just picked up a pack of 8 frozen beef and bean Chimichangas for $2.99. I've been working on a re-model and have been too tired to do much cooking at suppertime. I just turn on the fryer and in a few minutes supper is ready.
But that hamburger helper stuff, if you'll take the time to read the package you just might find that there is nothing in it you don't already have in your pantry at home. Except the oddball preservatives and chemicals and guar gum(ground guar beans) and modified corn starch which are both used as thickeners.

It tastes good, and it's fast and easy when you're in a hurry. I hit the wall quite some time ago as far as fast food or junk food goes, but I was genuinely surprised how good HH tastes, especially when pushed for time. I just don't make a habit of using it more than once a week.
Originally Posted By: Greger
Have you ever made mashed potatoes and Hamburger gravy?It used to be a favorite of mine when I was a kid. Sort of a depression era Hamburger helper. An onion, chopped, a pound of hamburger, browned with the onion, add a couple tablespoons flour and stir it in to deglaze the pan, then add water or stock while stirring to make it into gravy.
Salt and pepper to taste and enjoy. Also good with noodles.
Yes, and just about any other kind that I got drippings from whatever I was roasting or frying. I'm also very fond of egg noodles and/or mashed potatoes, especially made with garlic and chicken broth. I suspect that food prices will skyrocket before too much longer, but- at least for now- you can eat reasonable good for not too much money. Sometimes for a late night snack, I boil some egg noodles in just enough chicken or beef broth to cook the noodles and absorb most of the liquid. I then add butter and/or soy sauce, and it just hits the spot. Hot pepper sauce also works well.

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#203262 - 12/07/11 06:59 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Originally Posted By: numan
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Considering that french fries are such a simple, unprepossessing food, I wonder why they are so popular. Does it boil down to a simple, atavistic anthropoid delight in fat, carbohydrate and salt?

I imagine texture must be involved, too.


Numan~seriously, I think you're hypothesis is true! And I've cooked potatoes using your method, and it always comes out very well. In fact, it is my kids' favorite way to have their potatoes.
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#203267 - 12/07/11 07:36 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Fried eggs, yellow grits, pork jowl bacon and biscuits with butter and homemade peach preserves.
Sometimes breakfast for dinner hits the spot.
A cold front blew through today so I made Hot Cocoa for dessert. With Hershey's Special Dark dutched cocoa and fresh whipped cream.
Sorry, PIA, but there is a whole world of hot White Chocolate beverages you can experiment with if you miss this winter treat. My favorite of those has a shot of espresso in it which makes it more chocolaty without adding cocoa powder.
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#206176 - 12/29/11 12:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I'm not vegetarian. I like it with pork, although I suspect beef or chicken would do as well. Also, if you haven't used it, try basmati with it.

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#206189 - 12/29/11 02:51 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Basmati is Indian Rice, Joe. The Thai folks use Jasmine, I kind of agree with you though.
These gals would need to step it up a notch in the Thai place I worked. neither knife or chuan skills are very impressive. I bet the rice is to die for though.

Thai Fried rice

2-3 tablespoons oil
small handful julienned onion
cook onion, stirring with chuan til it begins to burn slightly
1/2teaspoon of minced garlic (careful it spatters)
1 cup cut up chicken, pork, beef shrimp etc.
Cook and stir
crack in an egg and stir
add ground Thai Pepper(cayenne) to taste
toss in chopped tomatoes, bok choy, whatever veggies suit your fancy. stir
add rice, add a tablespoon sugar, add a ladle of stir fry sauce
stir until blended
taste
add soy sauce, red pepper, sugar, or vinegar to balance flavors
stir
scoop out onto plate, shake on black pepper generously and garnish with sliced scallions.

For Pineapple Fried rice add about 8 chunks of pineapple with the veggies and a little pineapple juice. garnish with more pineapple.
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#206212 - 12/29/11 07:34 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Thanks for the recipe. I've never worked in a Thai restaurant, but I've eaten in a few. I realize that basmati is an Indian rice. I prefer basmati, which is why I suggested it. Besides Indian dishes, I serve it with my Mexican, Chinese, American dishes.

The lady is a street food vendor, much like the hot dog, pretzel, and other food vendors I once frequented years ago. I only wish that she had a cart next to one of them, because I would have enjoyed Thai food earlier. btw- is it just me or is it that you can't get a decent hot dog south of NYC?

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#206218 - 12/29/11 07:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#206228 - 12/29/11 09:23 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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But Greger and I am sure you know this-it is important that the rice be cooked hours (or a day) prior, cooled or refrigerated, and then added to the mix.

Otherwise one runs the risk of a sticky or gooey rice clump.
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#206230 - 12/29/11 09:29 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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Thanks but no thanks Ken. Right out of the steamer, or whichever method you use is the best way to go. The rice gets glued together once it cools. Lumpy rice can be very frustrating when you are in a hurry. You've got to put down the chuan, grab a dinner fork and search through the fried rice for lumps. Customah no like lumps.
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#206235 - 12/29/11 09:53 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Hill
Otherwise one runs the risk of a sticky or gooey rice clump.
Like what you find in kitty litter?

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#206247 - 12/29/11 10:53 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I never have any problem with sticky rice---unless, of course, I want some sticky, glutinous rice for some delectable Chinese dish. It is absurdly easy to have cooked rice in which each grain keeps itself to itself. I always buy rice in 10 or 20 kilogram bags, and merely spend a minute swirling water through it and thoroughly washing it until the rinse water is clear, and the rice free of any rice dust.

Being as patriotic an American as I am, I used consistently to buy California or Texas long-grain Patna rice -- until I read some articles about American rice being more polluted with toxic chemicals than the rice from those little, poorly regulated Asian countries.

I imagine it is from growing it in land that for decades was asphixiated with toxins used in the cultivation of cotton.

Anyway, the Constitution is not a suicide pact, so I switched to rice from healthier countries.
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#206252 - 12/29/11 11:12 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I picked up a bag of sweet rice this week. Also called glutinous rice. It's used mostly to make Sticky Rice, a Thai dessert dish served with mango and a rich coconut cream sauce. Black Sticky Rice is another more nutty tasting dessert.
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#206271 - 12/30/11 08:10 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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How do you think that it would work in rice pudding?

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#206284 - 12/30/11 12:34 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Sticky Rice is essentially "rice pudding" it's made with Coconut milk because Thai folks don't use dairy products. It's served with mango instead of raisins. I suspect that it would work very well with a typical western rice pudding recipe.
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#206299 - 12/30/11 02:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I love rice pudding! That Thai recipe sounds really good. Greger~do you have a recipe for that?
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#206305 - 12/30/11 03:52 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Thai Sticky Rice

2 cups Thai sweet rice(glutinous rice)
1 can good coconut milk
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/2 tsp salt
Fresh or frozen mango

In a microwave safe glass casserole. Cover rice with water and soak 10 minutes to half an hour. Drain off water until rice is barely covered, add 1/4 can of coconut milk. Cook covered in microwave on high for 10 minutes then let sit with lid on for ten more minutes.

In a saucepan warm the rest of the coconut milk, the salt and the brown sugar until brown sugar is melted.

Pour over rice, fluff with fork, serve with slices of fresh mango.

Alternately with frozen mango you can make a mango sauce with 2 cups of mango cubes, a can of coconut milk, 1/2 cup brown sugar. Bring this to a boil and add cornstarch mixed with water to thicken it.
Ladle this over servings of the sweetened Sticky rice


traditionally Sicky Rice is prepared in a straw hat in a spittoon. It looks like this:
Or it can be steamed in a muslin bag or a pillowcase. But the microwave beats the hell out of the traditional methods.
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#206311 - 12/30/11 04:28 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Thank you, Greger!
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#206334 - 12/30/11 08:13 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Greger, that looks really good. I like rice pudding, but only made it for myself once many years ago. I think it's time again. I'll try the sticky rice.

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#207094 - 01/05/12 08:32 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Here's an interesting option for what the po' folks could be eating...

Free food

Seems like it might be an evil Collectivist thing, though. Hmm
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#207099 - 01/05/12 09:46 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Now if someone can just show me how to grow cilantro successfully. Every year I plant it and it comes up bolting. So this year I am really really NOT going to try again. I just go to the grocery store and buy it when I need it.

Oh. Speaking of food, I've been meaning to post this:

I had an extra bag of cranberries in the fridge and wondered what to do with them. So I tossed them in a saucepan with a half or 3/4 cup of sugar, a finely cut up juice orange, and a big handful of diced pineapple. I cooked it until all the cranberries were popped open, let it cool, and tried to think of something to do with the concoction.

3.14159 + 2.7182818 = Pie

I prepared a pie crust, dotted it with Tbsp-sized globs of the concoction, and then poured around the globs a mixture of about a cup of sour cream, a cup of sugar, and 3-4 Tbsp of flour.

I didn't put a top crust on and baked the pie for 30 minutes at 375.

It was yummy. I had to use a spatula to fight off the kids until Peggy and I could have some for dessert.

You can try this with many fruits. I made one this AM that has strawberries all pointing upward out of the white filler, looks like little red mountains in the snow.
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#207106 - 01/05/12 11:39 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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Just for what it's worth. Cranberries, like all other berries can simply be frozen. No special preparation, just toss 'em in the freezer. Unlike other berries though, the thawed cranberries are indistinguishable from fresh berries.
How do you make your crusts Churl? I do all butter but with an added 1/4 cup of freshly rendered lard.
I'd never considered a Cranberry pie, and don't really know if I'd make one. But adding a few cranberries to an apple pie might be interesting. I like my strawberry pies on a cookie crust.
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#207107 - 01/05/12 11:42 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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Logtroll,
I think the municipal vegetable gardens are an excellent idea. Grass and flowers as well as most other ornamental landscaping are a complete waste of good soil. City workers and planners should get busy on this. A time may come when it's important.
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#207112 - 01/05/12 12:12 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Logtroll,
I think the municipal vegetable gardens are an excellent idea. Grass and flowers as well as most other ornamental landscaping are a complete waste of good soil. City workers and planners should get busy on this. A time may come when it's important.

Some of us in this high desert community (6000' elev, 15" annual rainfall) have been trying to get the town to do water harvesting using clever, but simple, stormwater runoff catchment techniques. Our rains often come in buckets but at wide temporal intervals. Our meager moisture is shed from the landscape from roofs and streets (with curbs and gutters, just to make sure it all leaves as quickly and efficiently as possible causing flooding and lots of erosion somewhere downstream). Meanwhile, we pay to pump water from deep underground up the hills to water sparse gardens (and friggin' lawns, if you can believe it).

Anyway, there are many small, dusty waste ground areas (including the yards of people who weren't as stupid as the lawn people) that could be irrigated by collecting water from roofs and letting runoff escape the streets through well-designed curb cuts, diverting it into rock mulched swales for deep percolation into the soil. Such places would make dandy neighborhood vegetable patches and reduce community water costs (coming and going) to boot!

The problem is in getting evil Collectivists to comprehend any issue that is more than 1mm deep, and in getting the Capitalists to allow anything to be free. And the Individualists are all a bunch of weirdos. Crikey!

Frankly, I don't know how we survive as a species. But I like to try to make the best of it when possible.

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#207114 - 01/05/12 12:17 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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"How do you make your crusts Churl?"

blush I confess. I make a trip to the store and get the frozen ones. Thaw = prepare. coffee
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#211283 - 01/31/12 02:22 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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#211288 - 01/31/12 03:14 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Florida strawberries just came in to Aldi's. The best I've had in five years... ripe all the way through (red)... not like the white centers that taste like tofu. And $1.39 qt. even better.

Been thinking about best food... Turkey necks. Without a question. Out of the freshly cooked turkey.

Inexpensive?... How about shepherd's pie? Made with ground raccoon or possum.

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#211336 - 02/01/12 07:29 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Yeah, ground raccoon is far preferable to the tree variety.
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#211337 - 02/01/12 07:42 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: itstarted]
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Originally Posted By: itstarted
Florida strawberries just came in to Aldi's. The best I've had in five years... ripe all the way through (red)... not like the white centers that taste like tofu. And $1.39 qt. even better.

Been thinking about best food... Turkey necks. Without a question. Out of the freshly cooked turkey.

Inexpensive?... How about shepherd's pie? Made with ground raccoon or possum.
Yes, if things get bad enough and there are always, unlike strawberries, seem to be enough of them around. During the last Great Depression, possum was a supplemental protein sources, and there is still a yearly festival honoring this noble critter for his contribution. I never had possum, but I hear that they're supposed to taste like chicken bacon. Squirrel is still popular in these parts, especially squirrel hash. Incidentally, turkey necks make a great turkey stock/broth.

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#211343 - 02/01/12 09:00 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Thanks for the link... I went to the magazine that features the festival... Possum Festival Magazine
Delightful!... especially the advertisers... Kentucky Fried etc.

In Illinois, we celebrate a different animal... the Burgoo!
Held in Utica, Il on Columbus Day each year... about 7 miles from my home.
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#211346 - 02/01/12 09:56 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Panko crusted, deep fried duck livers & cracklin's with home grown Broccoli.

paired with Relax Cool Red
red riesling.

Homemade white chocolate chip and walnut cookies for dessert!


that's a lot of dead ducks!!
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#211356 - 02/01/12 11:04 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I tried not to eat the duck livers but I was told if I didn't eat them it would be counted against me at state tax time. It took me a while to figure out the dead duck shuns were against me.
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#211365 - 02/01/12 01:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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Quote:
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#211399 - 02/01/12 06:23 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: itstarted]
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Gotta stop goin' to these eatin' sites...
leads to too much extra worry... Sugar Should Be Regulated As Toxin, Researchers Say

Quote:
They said that over the past 50 years, sugar consumption has tripled worldwide. That's also helped contribute to the obesity epidemic - so much so that there are 30 percent more obese people in this world than there are malnourished people.


Just like cigarettes and alcohol...

Ya think?

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#211401 - 02/01/12 06:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: itstarted]
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Quote:
Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight?


Romney: "I'm Not Concerned About the Very Poor"

Shut it greger, Romney dont give a f*ck

Link


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#211412 - 02/01/12 07:49 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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There must be a pork glut these days: My wife keeps buying spiral-cut hams at Costco, even though we have already polished off a couple over the last month. She says she can't resist because they are only 99 cents/pound.

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#211425 - 02/01/12 09:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Enjoy it while it lasts. Prices have been really good around here on pork loin, Boston butt, pork roast, center cut chops, ribs, and ham. The price of beef, however, keeps rising. Incidentally, I had pork vindaloo for dinner.

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#211438 - 02/01/12 10:22 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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The "Poor Folks" are probably eatng better than my family, if today's visit to a new Walmart Super Store is any indicator ! We also noted selections in the grocery section seem biased toward Hispanic culture and whatever comprises "yuppie/yippie/youth tastes. Most unusual for this highly competitive market ! >Mech

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#211443 - 02/01/12 11:01 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Mechanic]
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Speaking of Walmart... Grocery Prices here are skyrocketing. We watch our food bill closely, and are finding that increases or reduced packaging/quantity/weight factors have added about 20% since October.

The fear that local merchants had when Walmart came in... that after Walmart owned the market, the prices would rise uncontrollably seems to be coming true. Our small town has lost two Major Markets (Jewel, Econofoods).

KMart, Target, Big Lots, The Dollar Tree, and even our Menard's and Rural King (like Lowes amd Tractor Supply) are selling food... but all at high prices.

What passes for Farmers' Market has prices beyond the reach of middle class. Lettuce @ $1.75/head, tomatoes @ $2.50/lb.,etc.
Organic be damned.

Even our local Aldi's and Sav a Lot prices have increased, but are still about 25% or more below Walmart.

Costco and Sams are too distant, and our quantity needs are less than offered anyway.

The strangest part is that no one seems to talk about these price increases.

Commodities and Energy... not subject to supply/demand.

Your thoughts on food prices?


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#211471 - 02/02/12 10:55 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: itstarted]
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I've always assumed that food prices were directly related to energy prices. Diesel fuel, both on and off road, electricity to process and keep food fresh, fertilizer requires a huge amount of energy both in mining and synthesizing. And good old corporate price gouging is always a factor too.
When the peasants are down...kick 'em.

Blessed Imolc everyone! I've been working on the feast for three days now. We'll start with a cheeseboard featuring a Spanish Manchego made from sheep's milk, a couple of Irish cheeses and a few other nice sampling of imported and domestic artisan cheeses, Some rugelach filled with ground sunflower seeds and Pecorino Romano cheese.
Then a rich lamb stew with Irish soda bread, next a salad of Spring greens with a papaya chutney dressing.
The entree will be lambchops with a balsamic citrus reduction sauce, neeps and tatties and Brussels sprouts. Afterward home made ice cream pecan pie or chocolate lava cake. I've also made some butterscotch pudding just in case someone hasn't got room for a large dessert.
Then perhaps a glass of port, or whiskey.

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#211475 - 02/02/12 11:13 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I made biscuits with sausage gravy for breakfast yesterday. It turned out very tasty. Mr. Scoutgal ate about half(I made 8 biscuits-NOT Pillsbury), I had two left over, so this morning, I reheated them, and had them with homemade blueberry jam and butter.
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#211501 - 02/02/12 02:07 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Do the neep and tatties donors complain? Ouch!
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#211504 - 02/02/12 02:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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Greger~Could you please post your butterscotch pudding recipe here? laugh
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#211696 - 02/04/12 05:51 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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#211704 - 02/04/12 08:53 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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Do the neep and tatties donors complain? Ouch!

THat's Yellow Turnips(Rutabagas) and potatoes mashed together... rolleyes

Scout, I just grabbed a pudding recipe from google. The one by David Lebovitz looked the best but I wasn't sure about putting whiskey in it so I went with Joy of Baking
Paula Dean's Molten Lava Cake recipe is to die for and easy to make.
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#213075 - 02/16/12 02:15 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Do the neep and tatties donors complain? Ouch!

THat's Yellow Turnips(Rutabagas) and potatoes mashed together... rolleyes

Scout, I just grabbed a pudding recipe from google. The one by David Lebovitz looked the best but I wasn't sure about putting whiskey in it so I went with Joy of Baking
Paula Dean's Molten Lava Cake recipe is to die for and easy to make.


Anything Paula makes is awesome. Her health is her business and she's always said to adjust her recipes for your own health needs.
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#213083 - 02/16/12 03:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Siannan]
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#214501 - 02/29/12 02:36 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Annette Larkins looks much younger than her years Watch the video! Wow! I'm almost tempted to pull my stuffed peppers from the oven. Almost.


Edited by Joe Keegan (02/29/12 02:51 PM)

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#214549 - 02/29/12 11:25 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Siannan]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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Do the neep and tatties donors complain? Ouch!

THat's Yellow Turnips(Rutabagas) and potatoes mashed together... rolleyes

Scout, I just grabbed a pudding recipe from google. The one by David Lebovitz looked the best but I wasn't sure about putting whiskey in it so I went with Joy of Baking
Paula Dean's Molten Lava Cake recipe is to die for and easy to make.


Anything Paula makes is awesome. Her health is her business and she's always said to adjust her recipes for your own health needs.


I agree. Southern people been making something similar for years. Did anybody in the known world ever, ever think that Southern food was not fattening? I wish they'd leave Paula alone. You know they aren't saying a damn thing about Mr. Robbins of Baskin and Robbins having diabetes. Who gives a damn? If in this day and age people don't know that Twinkies might not be something you want to eat every day then I don't think the rest of us should help them.

That does it. I'm jonesing for grits and cathead biscuits for breakfast in the morning.
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#214550 - 03/01/12 12:11 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Slipped Mickey]
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If you want them grits really Southern Style you'd serve 'em over or under a couple of eggs fried over easy in bacon grease. As I recall though, Mick, you're a vegan so you just eat 'em "poor folks style" without no eggs nor bacon.

I've just about got a vegan ice cream recipe worked out for my daughter. She can't have eggs or dairy. I'm liking it better than real ice cream.
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#214551 - 03/01/12 12:47 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Many moons ago, I stopped at a Waffle House outside Atlanta for breakfast. The waitress asked me if I wanted hash browns or grits with my eggs. "Grits, please!" I figured it was time to see what a grit looked like. Hey, sum-beach, I thought to myself when the waitress placed the plate in front of me, I've seen this before. Up north it's called polenta, and they charge you more for it. At any rate, I became a grits convert. I've had Hoover's Grits for breakfast the past two days. I use chicken broth instead of water and serve with butter.

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#214554 - 03/01/12 05:08 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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If you want them grits really Southern Style you'd serve 'em over or under a couple of eggs fried over easy in bacon grease. As I recall though, Mick, you're a vegan so you just eat 'em "poor folks style" without no eggs nor bacon.

I've just about got a vegan ice cream recipe worked out for my daughter. She can't have eggs or dairy. I'm liking it better than real ice cream.


Greger. I gave up vegan and am now Paleo. I missed meat so much I would lick meat packages at the store, this weekend I making Pig Candy with thick bacon.

Vegan ice cream? Soy or coconut base?
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#214555 - 03/01/12 05:12 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Many moons ago, I stopped at a Waffle House outside Atlanta for breakfast. The waitress asked me if I wanted hash browns or grits with my eggs. "Grits, please!" I figured it was time to see what a grit looked like. Hey, sum-beach, I thought to myself when the waitress placed the plate in front of me, I've seen this before. Up north it's called polenta, and they charge you more for it. At any rate, I became a grits convert. I've had Hoover's Grits for breakfast the past two days. I use chicken broth instead of water and serve with butter.


We will convert the world, one grit at a time. I'm glad you like it Joe. It's damn good isn't it. Cheese grits are also fantastic. Shrimp and grits are the staff of life.
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#214558 - 03/01/12 07:59 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Every other Sunday morning I drive to Asheville to donate platelets and plasma at the Red Cross and I started going to Waffle House for breakfast, because I loved their waffles and their grits. Then early one morning I watched as one of the cooks prepared a big batch of grits. It was perhaps a gallon in size, and he put a whole pound of butter in it!

So I stopped eating the grits as often. Then one day I was chatting with the people there and they mentioned they were out of half-and-half, and it was going to be a real problem. I asked why. Did you know that they make their regular waffles by mixing the dry waffle mixture with half-and-half?

So I switched to eating buttermilk waffles.

Then they took the buttermilk waffles off the menu.

Now when I go to Asheville I stop at Denny's where they have a senior fit omelet, egg whites, a small amount of cheese, mushrooms, onions, spinach, served alongside a bowl of fruit and a bowl of oatmeal.
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#214561 - 03/01/12 09:37 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Slipped Mickey]
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Quote:

Vegan ice cream? Soy or coconut base?


Coconut and almond milk, with a banana added.
I'm getting some ice crystals in it though and need to up the fat content I think, either by reduction of the liquid and/or emulsifying almond butter or coconut oil into it.

I want to make a sugar free version for myself and will probably just add some high quality butter to mine.

Ted-There is no reason to add that much butter to grits. They probably do that in the restaurant to keep it from hardening. Normally it's cooked with no butter at all then served with a pat of butter, salt, and pepper. Or with a fried egg or two...all mashed together with your fork.
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#214576 - 03/01/12 10:27 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Not sure if I can honestly compare grits to polenta...!
I'm Italian and hail from the East Coast and now that I am in Texas I know what grits are.
The similarity stops abruptly just after the time you finish soaking them in water!
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#214634 - 03/01/12 02:43 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Italian Grits What part of Italy is your family from? I grew up in a predominantly Italian area where most were from the south or either Sicily. I was made an honorary Italian around 4th or 5th grade. However, there were some Italians from the north- we called them Germans. Polenta wasn't as popular a menu item as pasta or pizza, but was available. The Italian food was great! The Greek, Polish, Jewish, German, Hungarian, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, etc. wasn't too bad, either. Talk about a melting pot- and it tasted good. I really enjoyed those Italian Church festivals. The sausage and pepper sandwiches, grinders, hoagies, submarines, heroes, etc. Close to heaven as I'll get.

The only appreciable difference that I noticed between polenta and grits is that polenta is ground finer and costs more. Grits with chili is also mighty fine.

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#219231 - 04/07/12 08:49 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#219273 - 04/07/12 11:42 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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Every other Sunday morning I drive to Asheville to donate platelets and plasma at the Red Cross and I started going to Waffle House for breakfast, because I loved their waffles and their grits. Then early one morning I watched as one of the cooks prepared a big batch of grits. It was perhaps a gallon in size, and he put a whole pound of butter in it!

So I stopped eating the grits as often. Then one day I was chatting with the people there and they mentioned they were out of half-and-half, and it was going to be a real problem. I asked why. Did you know that they make their regular waffles by mixing the dry waffle mixture with half-and-half?

So I switched to eating buttermilk waffles.

Then they took the buttermilk waffles off the menu.

Now when I go to Asheville I stop at Denny's where they have a senior fit omelet, egg whites, a small amount of cheese, mushrooms, onions, spinach, served alongside a bowl of fruit and a bowl of oatmeal.

Ted Remington. I only stop in every now and again at RR (I used to be around regular) and I can't remember what your "first" name was before you disclosed your real name.
Doesn't matter really...
But I have to say. What? You're going to Asheville and eating at Waffle House and Dennys? Cripe, man. Why?
This is a good eating place. Try Early Girl and several other places. Stone ground grits. Locally grown stuff with no additives. Good stuff.
Chains thrive on fat and grease and whatever.
Asheville is not a place to eat at a chain. That shocks me.

I can nearly promise you that the "healthy" eating at Denny's isn't really.
But then. I'm cynical and believe in eating locally grown organic and know what's in it.
Denny's healthy? Probably not.
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#219286 - 04/08/12 10:23 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Note to self. Send olyve and email off line to let her know someone has hacked her RR account and is posting in her name. Can't really be her. Although it does have that crazy, warped healthy eating "meme" about it . . .
Hmmm.

Oh, dang it! Just dumped my biscuits and gravy all over my keyboard! Dadgum bib mounted food tray they sold me at Denny's broke again!
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#219295 - 04/08/12 12:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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olyve, if you want a good horseradish (other than grating your own), try FARMERS. It's genuinely good. They have a tamed down moderate version that is absolutely delicious. Perfect topping for a hard boiled egg. They also have the hot stuff, too, which I suspect will not only clear your nasal cavities, but also your frontal lobes. The local PIG carries it, so I suspect you can get it, too.

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#219330 - 04/08/12 02:16 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Olyve:

I agree wholeheartedly. But since I am retired the only time I can go to Asheville regularly for blood donations is early on Sunday mornings. NOTHING is open except the chains. Early Girl, which I like, opens at 9. Perhaps I will work to change my appt time to 11, but those slots are usually always filled by people with more "seniority" than I have. And I am currently standing at 83.5 gallons donated!

Every other day of the week I have to clean, cook, ride herd on two teenagers with ADHD, do the yard work, do the laundry, etc. Being retired is hard work!

But you did open my eyes, m'dear. As my M-I-L says, nothing beats a try like a failure. I've just been going with the flow, perhaps it's time to change the direction.

Thanks.
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#219374 - 04/08/12 06:46 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: loganrbt]
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Oh, dang it! Just dumped my biscuits and gravy all over my keyboard! Dadgum bib mounted food tray they sold me at Denny's broke again!
Logan, you doddering old fool! LOL

Yes tis me! I just missed you so!!

Originally Posted By: loganrbt
Can't really be her. Although it does have that crazy, warped healthy eating "meme" about it . . .
Hmmm.
nono

But he's right, Ted. I do have a bit of a health thing going. I guess I have to start calling myself a "senior" too now that I'm in my 60s. I hate it though! That word I mean. I am glad to still be here.

I didn't mean to sound harsh, Ted. I just love Asheville and as I do here at home, I also really believe in shopping and eating locally. We have a wealth of good healthy eating options where I live too.
I do see your point and it sounds like you chose the right option considering the slimness of your options early on a Sunday morning. You'd be dealing with the tourist crowds too on a weekend.
I live about 3 1/2 hours south of you in Athens, Ga, a neat place too and we come to Asheville about twice a year to concerts generally. We stay at the Downtown Inn and walk everywhere we go.

Logan, as you well know, I am underinsured (though Affordable Care Act made that better....soon to go away of course) so at my age it is important to eat healthy and stay healthy! Government doesn't like people my age!

Originally Posted By: Ted Remington
And I am currently standing at 83.5 gallons donated!
Bow

Originally Posted By: Ted Remington
Every other day of the week I have to clean, cook, ride herd on two teenagers with ADHD, do the yard work, do the laundry, etc. Being retired is hard work!
I'm semi retired. Yes it is!

Sorry for the off topics, mods.
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#219380 - 04/08/12 07:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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It's just good to see you pass through Olyve, and you can go off topic all you want in a thread like this.

My Easter Dinner was Saturday night. Friday night at midnight I put a fresh 12 pound picnic ham in the oven at 200 degrees. It had a dry rub made up mostly of brown sugar with paprika and a variety of herbs and spices. It cooked all night long and most of the day. At 3:30 Saturday afternoon I turned oven down to 140 degrees, wrapped it in foil, and put it back in the oven until 8 that evening when it was time to "carve" it.
We started the meal with a salad from my garden, the appetizer was grilled portabello mushrooms, then seared Ahi tuna with thin slices of raw tuna. The principal course was the pulled pork with potatoes and green beans from my garden.
We finished with home made ice cream.
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#219398 - 04/08/12 10:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Wow... Hi Olyve...Missed you a lot...Y'all come back and see us heah? New guys... She's the sweetest and nicest and adds that kind of gentility to our sometimes rough edge chats.

............................................
Now on to Easter Ham... Greger... you ain'ta gonna like me...
9 lb, smoked butt. Oven @325degrees for 2 hours... then out and slobbered with Aldi's lite pancake syrup and fresh pineapple slices. Back into the oven uncovered for another 1/2 hour... Sliced then poured the syrup overflow on the slices.

I am the local HERO!!! (sadly the only spices we have are lemon pepper and beef boullion (if that's a spice?).

Perhaps next time I'll try Ham ala Gregoire! smile

PS... fresh veggies coming up if the dandelions cooperate.

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#219411 - 04/09/12 12:12 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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We had our traditional Easter ham dinner, with homemade mac and cheese, tri-tip, au gratin potatoes, corn, green beans and rolls. We had birthday cake for dessert, because it was also my MIL's birthday. The mac and cheese is from an old southern cookbook that I had lying around, and had given to my daughter. I do not like mac and cheese. I did take one bite, because she worked so hard on it. It was a lovely holiday, with almost all of my family, so I am a happy camper. grin
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#219414 - 04/09/12 12:33 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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#219416 - 04/09/12 12:49 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: itstarted]
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so I am a happy camper.


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Awwww-thanks, Cousin It!
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#219440 - 04/09/12 05:41 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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But he's right, Ted. I do have a bit of a health thing going. I guess I have to start calling myself a "senior" too now that I'm in my 60s. I hate it though! That word I mean. I am glad to still be here.
Remember when 30 seemed old?

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#219459 - 04/09/12 10:23 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Oh Gosh, shucks, It. Thanks for the kind words. *blush*
Sounding a bit suthern your own self these days. Handing around some of them in Florida, are you?

LOL. Joe, yes! I can (barely) remember when 30 was old. Sigh....
Strange itnit?
That said, 60 has really thrown me for a loop. Wow.
Like I said, I'm glad to be here but daummmmm.

Btw, thanks for the tip on that horseradish, I forgot to say. I think we DO still have a Piggly around here somewhere. I'll check it out. I love horseradish.

Y'all's Eastern dinners sound yummy!
I didn't need to find out ham has pink slime in it though. Ugh. No wonder I have a hard time eating meat anymore!

What are poor people eating?
Cheap American food that is full of fat, sugar and salt.
Beans and rice and yes grits would be good without all the "enhanced" taste. We need to relearn how to eat the plain basic stuff.
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#219470 - 04/09/12 11:32 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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LOL. Joe, yes! I can (barely) remember when 30 was old. Sigh....
Strange itnit?
That said, 60 has really thrown me for a loop. Wow.
Like I said, I'm glad to be here but daummmmm.
olyve, there are two ages: You're either too young or too old.

Originally Posted By: olyve
Btw, thanks for the tip on that horseradish, I forgot to say. I think we DO still have a Piggly around here somewhere. I'll check it out. I love horseradish.
I love horseradish, too. This stuff is good. I doubt that just Piggly Wiggly carries it. Check around. I'm sure that your market can order it. It's good.

Originally Posted By: olyve
What are poor people eating?
Hamburger Helper.

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#219498 - 04/09/12 05:53 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Hamburger Helper.

Shudder!
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#219499 - 04/09/12 06:11 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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Not to be mixing threads but, have you ever tried Hamburger Helper with pink slime? Mmm, mmm, good!
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#219502 - 04/09/12 06:47 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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Or, squirrel? Hmmmmmm, squirrel...

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#219542 - 04/10/12 12:19 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Squirrel is pretty tough. It's best used to make a broth for soup or stew. It should be slowly simmered with root vegetables and herbs. The meat can then be stripped from the bones minced and used to make "Squirrel Helper" with some of the broth, or better yet, Squirrel Gravy to serve over sweet potatoes.
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#219562 - 04/10/12 02:49 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Squirrel hash is the featured dish in these parts. A number of these good ol' boys grew up hunting, including squirrels. If they didn't get that squirrel, no lunch. There are a lot of very good shots around here.

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#219582 - 04/10/12 03:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I recall reading about some folks in the hinterlands mixing squirrel brains with their scrambled eggs. Apparently tasty, but unfortunately for them, squirrels have a high infestation rate with a prion like Mad Cow Disease and you can't destroy its infectivity by cooking.

Several victims ingested such whopping doses, they succumbed within months.

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#219609 - 04/10/12 09:00 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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My grandma hunted for most of their meat when they lived in the rural areas of the south. Squirrel was on the menu often. My grandma could "bark" a squirrel, and after she caught a few, she would make them into a stew. My mother liked squirrel stew. I have never partaken, and after PIA's post I will never. crazy
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#219624 - 04/10/12 10:26 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Wow. I have to say eating squirrel in the south is new to me. (please tell me you're teasing Greger)
Your grandmother hunted their meat? Gosh, Scout, you're a good ten years younger me (maybe more?). Where did they live?
Still....coon, possum....I've heard stories about them and eating in the south but figgered that was before my time.
Uck.

I cannot imagine killing and eating Elmer, my squirrel who thinks he can out smart me at the bird feeder.

Really? Squirrel?
Ugh.
That's just awful.
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#219628 - 04/10/12 11:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Olyve, I've eaten squirrel and it's okay. 'Possum and coon are soul food classics but I've never tried either. I've had armadillo on several occasions and a variety of wild fowl.
Wild duck breast is one of the most incredibly delicious things I've ever eaten and the best steak I ever ate was venison.
I never heard of eating squirrel brains, but canned pork brains used to be available and the are quite good with scrambled eggs. I'm not sure whether they are still available though and I have it from a good source that the local slaughterhouse is no longer allowed to sell pig heads to brain eaters.
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#219629 - 04/10/12 11:09 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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How about road kill?

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#219630 - 04/10/12 11:16 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Wausau Possum Festival Annual tribute to the critter that was one of the main protein sources during the Great Depression.

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#219631 - 04/10/12 11:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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How about road kill?


I roasted a 60 pound road kill pig once...
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#219632 - 04/10/12 11:44 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Did you find it or hit it? Roadkill Bill

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#219645 - 04/11/12 07:58 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#219646 - 04/11/12 08:15 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Did you find it or hit it?
My neighbor hit it on the way home and brought it to me...
Wild Turkeys often cross the road in front of me out here. I've been trying to hit one for years but no luck yet.
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#219694 - 04/11/12 10:14 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Well ok.
After this last little bit of conversation took place I had my chipmunk, my squirrel(s?), and finally my (apparently now resident) possum show up, very cutely I might add, to my bird feeders.
You'd have to come through me to get to them to kill.

But that said, if you're going to eat meat, at the end of the day what's the difference if it's a cute one you see often or just an old scrounger?
Or a cow or pig that has been groomed for the kill?

I didn't plan not eating meat. It (and ALL THE PINK SLIME!! Lack of regulations.....keeping it clean and....healthy) just happened.
Ya know?

I was just about to post that when I stopped and thought.
No. For me, as I age, I just don't want to kill something to eat just to give me pleasure.
I would like to think somebody wouldn't do that to me.
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#219700 - 04/11/12 11:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Poor folks will eat just about anything, Olyve. We are all fortunate that we don't need to go to those extremes to stay fed. Just because you don't think of a carrot as cute and cuddly doesn't mean it isn't a living thing. I just don't draw any lines between animals and vegetables when it comes to taking a life to feed myself. wink
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#219702 - 04/11/12 11:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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Tain’t right log. I mean--what about them starvin folk?
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#219708 - 04/12/12 02:06 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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#219709 - 04/12/12 02:19 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Olyve~My grandma had my mother later in age. She was the 7th out of 9 kids. They lived in Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee and Missouri before moving to the Central Valley of California. They were migrant workers. Grandma hunted meat, because she couldn't afford to buy meat. She only had a buckboard for transportation until around 1950. Never had indoor plumbing(my mother and grandmother) until they came to California. I cannot imagine living that way. I never did. I never ate squirrel, chipmunk, oppossum, bear or coon. Only fish, poultry, beef, pork, lamb and veal. My mom had eaten oppossum, but didn't care for it. She did, however, love pickled pigs' feet-I thought they were gross!

She also used to take leftover cornbread, crumble it up into a tall glass with chopped green onion and pour buttermilk over it. Yuck!
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#219740 - 04/12/12 11:27 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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I tried to learn to like buttermilk....The acidity that makes buttermilk so useful in baking and tenderizing meat also unfortunately makes it unpalatable for most modern Americans.
I could probably make it through a glass of cornbread onions and buttermilk(with salt and pepper) but my opinion of buttermilk wouldn't change.
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#219743 - 04/12/12 12:00 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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That was one of my mother's favorite snacks....cornbread and buttermilk!
She was a city girl (Atlanta) though she sure knew some poverty. I'm not sure she ate much chittlins and things like that but they did exist on beans, greens and cornbread. Not much meat. Occasionally fried chicken legs.
My father was born on a farm in Kansas so grew their own meat.
My grandmother btw was one of 20 kids.

I duuno even I can relate to some of the stuff you're talking about, Scout so point well taken. When I was a little girl we tried living in Kansas and farming for a short time. We had no indoor bathroom and the telephone was one of those crank style party line things.
But it was also the time of the beginnings of fast cheap convenient foods and when we moved back to Atlanta that is a lot of what we ate. Boxed mac cheese, frozen fried shrimp, pork and beans.
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#219746 - 04/12/12 12:34 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Olyve, I think we grew up during the age of mediocrity.
Those post war years when cheap white bread replaced home made, when canned beans replaced homegrown and the TV Dinner was invented. During those years America lost touch with where food came from and lost the (unpleasant) knack for wringing a chicken's neck, cleaning a fish, or slaughtering a hog.
We became squeamish about food and taught our children to be even more squeamish. Far too many have learned to live only on packaged and processed food and are completely removed from the actual preparation of food as our grandparents knew it.
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#219753 - 04/12/12 01:17 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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"The Age of Mediocrity," eh?

A friend of mine calls it the "Age of Great Stupidity," and I think he is right -- and, IMO, it is getting stupider and more brainwashed all the time,

I would like to think that people are getting more sensible about what they shove into their mouths, but I am not hopeful -- people are so easily stampeded into one fad or another by the Brainwashing Machine.
Never has it been more true :

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#219756 - 04/12/12 01:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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You got it. I wouldn't be too surprised that in the future if country folk mounted cow catchers on their pickups to "bag" a deer or two on their way home from church.

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#219757 - 04/12/12 01:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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If you haven't already seen it, you may want to check out Idiocracy ,the movie. My friends (all two of them) were aghast that I liked it. Granted, that you might get a headache from watching it, but....

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#219780 - 04/12/12 06:18 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Olyve, I've eaten squirrel and it's okay. 'Possum and coon are soul food classics but I've never tried either. I've had armadillo on several occasions and a variety of wild fowl.
Wild duck breast is one of the most incredibly delicious things I've ever eaten and the best steak I ever ate was venison.
I never heard of eating squirrel brains, but canned pork brains used to be available and the are quite good with scrambled eggs. I'm not sure whether they are still available though and I have it from a good source that the local slaughterhouse is no longer allowed to sell pig heads to brain eaters.


You will be happy to learn that three ounces of pig brains contain 2,169 mg, or 723% of the recommended daily allowance for cholesterol, according to this.
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#219783 - 04/12/12 06:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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!

But it has 0 carbs...;)
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#219784 - 04/12/12 06:36 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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#219827 - 04/13/12 12:28 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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Olyve, I've eaten squirrel and it's okay. 'Possum and coon are soul food classics but I've never tried either. I've had armadillo on several occasions and a variety of wild fowl.
Wild duck breast is one of the most incredibly delicious things I've ever eaten and the best steak I ever ate was venison.
I never heard of eating squirrel brains, but canned pork brains used to be available and the are quite good with scrambled eggs. I'm not sure whether they are still available though and I have it from a good source that the local slaughterhouse is no longer allowed to sell pig heads to brain eaters.


You will be happy to learn that three ounces of pig brains contain 2,169 mg, or 723% of the recommended daily allowance for cholesterol, according to this.


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#221126 - 04/28/12 11:32 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Bored Member]
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Anyone have a favorite method for freezing/preserving basil? I attempt to stagger the planting, but still have more than I can use. I'd appreciate a method that you use, i.e. if you grow basil and preserve some by freezing it. Thanks.

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#221156 - 04/28/12 02:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Hi Joe,
I always get too much basil too.
I chop it and freeze it in ice cube trays covered with a few drops of water.
I always use water but a friend suggested that olive oil (*grin*) would work well too.
After it's solid store the cubes in freezer bags.

I've already planted new stuff for this year but have a few cubes left in the freezer too.
Works great!
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#221157 - 04/28/12 02:30 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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I make Pesto with it, Joe. I just refrigerate it but there's no reason not to freeze the Pesto. What variety do you grow?
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#221158 - 04/28/12 02:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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a friend suggested that olive oil (*grin*) would work well too.
After it's solid store the cubes in freezer bags.

Chopped basil and olive oil is the beginning of pesto...
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#221173 - 04/28/12 04:36 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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The method I have used for a long time is to chop the basil, mix with some e. v. olive oil, and put into small freezer bags, just enough so you can press the bag and contents to about 1/2 inch thickness. Pop in freezer and break off what you need from the bag.

I've also frozen fully loaded pesto this way, but then you are limited a bit in what you can do with it. Perhaps with the basil crop I have coming in this year I will do it both ways.
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#221200 - 04/29/12 01:20 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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Hi Joe,
I always get too much basil too.
I chop it and freeze it in ice cube trays covered with a few drops of water.
I always use water but a friend suggested that olive oil (*grin*) would work well too.
After it's solid store the cubes in freezer bags.

I've already planted new stuff for this year but have a few cubes left in the freezer too.
Works great!
olyve, thanks. I love basil, but you really can get too much of a good thing. I going to try freezing some of it in ice cube trays, popping it out of the trays when frozen, and storing the cubes in a freezer bag in the freezer. Some other I'll chop, mix with olive oil, and store in freezer bags. And the rest, I'll just freeze the leaves whole and store in freezer bags. I read that the olive oil coating keeps the basil from getting dark, which will happen if you just freeze the leaves. I'll find out.

I also like and grow parsley. Nothing fancy. Just a few containers. I pinch off the leaves as needed. I've had some plants last 2 years and more. Fresh parsley when needed.

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#221201 - 04/29/12 01:28 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I make Pesto with it, Joe. I just refrigerate it but there's no reason not to freeze the Pesto. What variety do you grow?
I grow Genovese basil. I used to grow up to three varieties at the same time, but I keep coming back to sweet basil, although I'm willing to try a variety that you recommend.

I like pesto, too. I've never frozen it before, but I'll give it a try. I recently took about two cups of basil leaves, chopped it, and added it to my fresh tomato (6 lbs. Roma, 1 28 oz. can crushed, and about 8 oz. left over tomato puree)clam sauce. It really smoothed out the sauce, which was delicious even though I use the canned clams.

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#221202 - 04/29/12 01:30 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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The method I have used for a long time is to chop the basil, mix with some e. v. olive oil, and put into small freezer bags, just enough so you can press the bag and contents to about 1/2 inch thickness. Pop in freezer and break off what you need from the bag.

I've also frozen fully loaded pesto this way, but then you are limited a bit in what you can do with it. Perhaps with the basil crop I have coming in this year I will do it both ways.
Thanks. You use the one pint size bags? Does that basil break off easily?

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#221208 - 04/29/12 09:30 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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I've always grown sweet basil. I have 2 dozen smallish plants right now. I've seen some "Pesto Basil" in the stores. I'm really fond of Thai Basil but haven't got my hands on any seeds yet but I'll probably stick with Sweet Basil since it does everything I want it to do.
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#221245 - 04/29/12 04:16 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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The method I have used for a long time is to chop the basil, mix with some e. v. olive oil, and put into small freezer bags, just enough so you can press the bag and contents to about 1/2 inch thickness. Pop in freezer and break off what you need from the bag.

I've also frozen fully loaded pesto this way, but then you are limited a bit in what you can do with it. Perhaps with the basil crop I have coming in this year I will do it both ways.
Thanks. You use the one pint size bags? Does that basil break off easily?


It breaks off very easily if the stuff in the bag is flattened out. In fact, olive oil doesn't really freeze solid, at least not in my freezer.
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#221301 - 04/29/12 11:25 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ted Remington]
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I like that idea a lot, Ted.
I do my roasted red peppers like that...flatten it and break it off as needed (not in oil though).
I'll probably do basil both ways this year.
Thanks!
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#221304 - 04/29/12 11:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Olive oil will harden at refrigerator temperatures - around 37-39°F. Determining at what point to call the oil "frozen" is a matter of semantics. The slow increase in hardening as the temperature is lowered is in sharp contrast to a pure substance such as water that switches from a liquid to solid phase at an exact temperature. Olive oil is a complex mixture of oils and waxes. The heavier oils and waxes will form needle-like crystals as the temperature is lowered, then the other oils will start to settle out.

At 40°F most of the oils would not harden or form any crystals. At 35°F most are firm enough that they cannot be poured but are as soft as butter at room temperature. As the temperature is lowered, more components of the oil solidify. At 10°F the oil is hard enough that a fork cannot penetrate it.

Source: Olive Oil Source.com

I buy EVOO in gallon containers and keep only a pint in the pantry. The rest is stored in the refrigerator.
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#221322 - 04/30/12 06:14 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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The best way to keep olive oil fresh is to get one of those mylar-looking bladders that wine-in-a-box is kept in. Pop off the valve, wash the bladder really well, then put in hot water and some bicarb. Let it sit for an hour, rinse, and fill with olive oil. Squeeze out as much air as possible and put the valve back on. Put the bladder in the box, label it clearly as olive oil and store in refrigerator.

Why? Because the enemy of oil is oxygen. This way, when you open the tap and let out olive oil you are not allowing oxygen into the bag. There's actually a brand of olive oil that ships this way. Red Island or something. I am too lazy to walk into the kitchen to find out, but I have one in the pantry.
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#221323 - 04/30/12 06:52 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: olyve]
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#221328 - 04/30/12 12:45 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#221351 - 04/30/12 06:24 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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I gave up most processed and fast foods a long time ago. Homemade is cheaper, and tastes better. I do occasionally fall and partake of fast foods, but that's usually when out on a road trip.
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#221353 - 04/30/12 07:07 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Just had this conversation this evening actually and totted up the processed foods we eat.

not by any great design to avoid it, but just out of habit and normal preference, I realised that the missus and i eat practially no processed foods, with a few exceptions e.g. low fat margerine substitute.
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#221356 - 04/30/12 08:22 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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low fat margerine substitute.

If I should die because I ate good rich butter
then I shall die with no regrets.

Schlacky! You're a barbecuer so I know you've gotten into dry rubs some. I was just making a batch of rub and made a little too much to go into the Rub Jug and had a little revelation. Pecans!. I processed a cup or so of Nuts into a meal, added the excess rub, more brown sugar, paprika garlic and onion powder powder, went heavy on the chili powder(do you have that in Ireland?) and blended it all together. I now have two Rub Jugs, the Regular Jug rub for shoulders, ribs, and butts. But I also have the Nut Rub. I tried both the other night. The nut crusted ribs were very impressive. I haven't written the recipe out yet but when I do I'll call it Georgia Nut Rub for Shoulders Ribs and Butts.

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#221358 - 04/30/12 08:28 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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low fat margerine substitute.

If I should die because I ate good rich butter
then I shall die with no regrets.

Schlacky! You're a barbecuer so I know you've gotten into dry rubs some. I was just making a batch of rub and made a little too much to go into the Rub Jug and had a little revelation. Pecans!. I processed a cup or so of Nuts into a meal, added the excess rub, more brown sugar, paprika garlic and onion powder powder, went heavy on the chili powder(do you have that in Ireland?) and blended it all together. I now have two Rub Jugs, the Regular Jug rub for shoulders, ribs, and butts. But I also have the Nut Rub. I tried both the other night. The nut crusted ribs were very impressive. I haven't written the recipe out yet but when I do I'll call it Georgia Nut Rub for Shoulders Ribs and Butts.


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#221361 - 04/30/12 08:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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#221362 - 04/30/12 09:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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It doesn't even have to be good. It just needs a label.

Please, sir! You are spilling the beans!
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#221371 - 05/01/12 01:59 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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I gave up most processed and fast foods a long time ago. Homemade is cheaper, and tastes better. I do occasionally fall and partake of fast foods, but that's usually when out on a road trip.
Cheaper is an understatement! Not only does homemade taste better, but it's also healthier. A lot of that processed crap isn't even real food. Have you noticed that when you eat something made with fresh and natural ingredients that you get a lift, energy surge, and actually feel better? That's how you're supposed to feel. You're not supposed to feel sluggish or, in some cases, slightly ill. Your body's response is telling you something. I can't get over how many people are unable to grasp that simple concept, which amounts to no more than common sense.

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#221400 - 05/01/12 11:53 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Joe~I agree with you about feeling better when eating non-processed foods. Being on dialysis, I have to be even more careful, and there a lot of foods that I cannot eat anymore, or only in very small quantities. So it is far easier to prepare most of my meals from scratch.

Greger~The nut rub sounds very good. Have also considered sauteing pecan halves in some butter, and then sprinkling them with your regular rub to serve as a snack? I've done that with some success.
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#221412 - 05/01/12 01:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Joe~I agree with you about feeling better when eating non-processed foods. Being on dialysis, I have to be even more careful, and there a lot of foods that I cannot eat anymore, or only in very small quantities. So it is far easier to prepare most of my meals from scratch.
The heavily processed and fortified (supposedly they put back in what they processed out) tends to clog up the works- so to speak. It really doesn't take that much longer to prepare your meals from real fresh food. I saw scrambled eggs and bacon/sausage frozen- just have to pop in the micro-wave. How hard is it to fry, boil, or poach an egg?

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#221413 - 05/01/12 01:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Greger, you ever grow garlic or ginger root here in Florida?

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#221443 - 05/01/12 10:26 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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It's too warm down here for most varieties of garlic. I've researched it a little bit and there are two varieties that would do okay here. There might be a few more that would work up north where you are. So far I don't know how I'd get my hands on the right kind of garlic to start with.
It's too cold here for ginger, I think. I've never really looked into growing it. I know a place that often has big fresh looking ginger root, maybe I'll try planting some just to see.
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#221453 - 05/02/12 06:42 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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#221462 - 05/02/12 10:05 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Thanks, Joe. It was the Creole and Artichoke varieties I was thinking of. Sounds like the Creoles might do best. I'll bookmark this and order some Cuban Creoles sometime in the fall if it's available.
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#224315 - 05/31/12 02:09 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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#224316 - 05/31/12 02:13 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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She's right! Buy local produce. It's good for you!

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#224344 - 05/31/12 04:22 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Salad and tilapia fillets last night for Mr. and Mrs. Haas.
Probably some kind of fish tonight too, unless I decide to take her out and let the kids fend for themselves.
They're on some sort of kick about not liking our favorite restaurants - they're grown and know how to cook!
Besides, Mrs. Haas is a very fun date :-)
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#224349 - 05/31/12 04:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I'm making beef stir fry with mushrooms and asparagus tips. Rice and iced tea complete the menu. Homemade coconut ice cream(made with Splenda) for dessert.
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#224355 - 05/31/12 06:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Made hamburgers tonight.

fresh beef mince, seasoned with oregano, black pepper and onion powder.

Baked roll, sliced pickle, onion, cherry tomato and cucumber and a homemade pea and mint puree.
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#224357 - 05/31/12 06:19 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Schlack~I've never had a puree like that, but it sounds interesting. Do you have a recipe?
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#224361 - 05/31/12 06:53 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Schlack~I've never had a puree like that, but it sounds interesting. Do you have a recipe?


easy, Simple!

frozen or fresh peas, simmered like normal until tender, in water with a little salt and some bruised & torn fresh mint leaves.

drain, blend to puree, reserve some of the water in case its too thick

you can also add butter or cream for richness, and to ensure you get the consistency you want. - thinner purees are much better for fancy schmancy presentation (get a plastic squeezy bottle and have fun painting with peas!) return to the pot over a low heat to keep warm.

butter and cream are off the menu for me at the moment, but it still works well.

Quantities, proportions and consistency, are a matter of taste and experimentation.

for the burgers, The puree was quite thick!
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#224367 - 05/31/12 07:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Thanks, Schlack! ThumbsUp
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#224373 - 05/31/12 08:29 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Fried Trout(caught yesterday) and Barramundi Almondine, homegrown brussels sprouts and potatoes au gratin, I dug the potatoes this morning. I picked a watermelon this morning too but it looks like the raccons are gonna get more watermelons than I am....
The Barramundi is farmed in Vietnam and was touted as "sustainable Sea Bass" But in no way resembles Chilean Sea Bass(Which isn't really a Sea Bass either)
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#224375 - 05/31/12 08:50 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Oooh, watermelon-it's on sale at my farmer's Market...Gonna have to get some!
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#224412 - 06/01/12 09:06 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Have a good friend coming over tonight, a feast has been planned:

1st course:
Costinis with a trio of toppings: Roasted red pepper and Garlic, Italian Salsa Verde, Caramelised onions and melted gruyere cheese

Pasta Course:
Aglio et Olio (simple but fan-[censored]-tastic

Main course:
Pork tenderloin stuffed with caremlised onions and spinach, wrapped in parma ham, roasted taters, apple sauce, pea puree (i cant stop making it) and gravy

Desert:
Probably Tiramasu (TBC)
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#224538 - 06/02/12 09:09 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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last night's feast was moved to tonight instead!

Last night it was thickly cut fillet steak served on rosti, topped with garlic and thyme zuchini ribbons, with pan jus accompanied by a bucket of red wine.

The diet starts again Monday
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#224542 - 06/02/12 10:08 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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That sounds great Shlack! The Rosti sounds like fun. I just looked at Danny Boome's recipe and will make it for dinner tonight.
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#224630 - 06/02/12 07:25 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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That sounds great Shlack! The Rosti sounds like fun. I just looked at Danny Boome's recipe and will make it for dinner tonight.


Delicious too! For really good rostis make sure to extract as much water as possible before forming the patties. Use a potato ricer to squeeze it out rather than paper towels.

Oh and the feast went really well!

added a touch of vinegar to the pea puree to give it a different tone, worked excellently.


Edited by Schlack (06/02/12 07:27 PM)
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#224635 - 06/02/12 08:51 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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I don't have a potato ricer. But I will add the salt as soon as the potatoes are grated to help draw out some of the moisture.
Then I'll roll them up in a couple of tea towels and wring the water out.

Imagine Whirled Peas!

Your Pea Puree reminds me of the white bean puree I serve with braised lamb. It's very similar to mashed potatoes and can be done with canned Cannellini or Great Northern beans. I suppose Navy beans would work too. It's better when made with freshly cooked beans though.
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#224727 - 06/03/12 03:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Planning on tomato sauce, pasta, meatballs & sausage. Seeded about 15 lbs Roma tomatoes, about 3 cups fresh basil, garlic, onion, red wine, spices, etc. Also dumped in two cans of peeled plum tomatoes. I let it simmer anywhere from 3-6 hrs +, depending upon how hungry I get.

With some fresh bread (semolina), it's about as good as it gets. Also, a salad. Nothing fancy. Just Romaine, tomatoes, garlic, black olives, and a vinaigrette. Maybe some Parmesan.

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#224733 - 06/03/12 03:51 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Sounds good, Joe. if I get up off my ass right now I've got about 10 pounds of assorted homegrown tomatoes that need to be run through the tomato mill. My basil is starting to go to seed so I need to cut the tops off all of them. Almost 4:00 here now and and I can have spaghetti and meatballs ready by 7:00....

Schlack, the Roti turned out great! I made a few patties and froze them to see if they would hold up to being deep fried later.

Headed to the kitchen...........
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#224734 - 06/03/12 03:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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I got the watermelon-it was so delicious served ice cold. My mother used to sprinkle salt on hers, and I did like that, but I can't do that anymore. But it still tastes great just plain and cold! I also picked up some peaches and apricots at the farmer's Market. Those were good, too.

I did up a fresh fruit plate for my guests watching the hockey game last night. It was a great dessert/snack that hit the spot. Peach slices, watermelon slices, red and green seedless grapes, apple slices(I sprinkle them with a little lemon juice, so that they won't turn brown), strawberries, blue berries, black berries, raspberries and pineapple chunks. Some sliced cheddar cheese and baked brie, too. Since these fruits are in season here in SoCal, it wasn't that expensive.
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#224743 - 06/03/12 05:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Just got back from a hike along the Gila River, below what's known as The Bird Area. We were about 25 miles from the big fire, wind blowing from us to it, so no smoke. Walked about 2-1/2 miles before noticing that a bear was walking the same way recently, so we turned around. Had a snack with our feet in the river, sardines on garlic crackers.


Got back to the truck and pulled the watermelon out and had to go back and sit on some rocks while the terriers hunted and we watched dragon flies and crawdads. I'd like to get me some of them crawdads...
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#224762 - 06/03/12 07:07 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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My mother loved crawdads. But they are just medium-sized looking bugs(shrimp being small bugs and lobster being big bugs-crabs are spiders). I remember visiting family in Arkansas and Louisiana where they would boil up some crawdads in a big outdoor kettle, seasoned with some Old Bay seasoning and Louisiana hot sauce.Cooked with potatoes and corn on the cob, it was all dumped out on a newspaper covered table and people(except for me) would just go to town on the feast. I had a peanut butter sandwich.
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#224774 - 06/03/12 08:28 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Funny. I don't think of Crawdads as food, they are the little ones and good only for catfish bait.
Crayfish are the bigger ones, those beloved Mudbugs. They really aren't much good unless they are thrown live into the crab-boil. Frozen crayfish dry out. Most of you probably know this but the proper way to eat one is to tear off the head and suck the juice out of the back of it before pealing the rest like a shrimp. There aint no goody in the heads of frozen crayfish.
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#224776 - 06/03/12 08:34 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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My mother loved crawdads. But they are just medium-sized looking bugs(shrimp being small bugs and lobster being big bugs-crabs are spiders). I remember visiting family in Arkansas and Louisiana where they would boil up some crawdads in a big outdoor kettle, seasoned with some Old Bay seasoning and Louisiana hot sauce.Cooked with potatoes and corn on the cob, it was all dumped out on a newspaper covered table and people(except for me) would just go to town on the feast. I had a peanut butter sandwich.

Sistah, sistah! We talkin' bite size lobsta, heah! They may be bugs, but they be badass bitchin' tasty bugs!

Long time ago I went with some buddies fishing on the Bitterrot River in Montana. We put on the river in a twelve foot aluminum fishing boat with a small outboard engine about 20 miles upstream of Missoula. Being kind of lazy in the hunting/gathering department, I drove the boat, which was a boatload of fun.

Fishing wasn't too productive and just before town we stopped under a railroad bridge to look for crawdads in the rocks. We got a bunch, took them home, and had an excellent feast.

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#224777 - 06/03/12 08:36 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Funny. I don't think of Crawdads as food, they are the little ones and good only for catfish bait.

Uppity Cracker...
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#224779 - 06/03/12 08:40 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I made some smoked chicken tacos last night: Slow-smoked chicken breast meat chunks, feta cheese, late-season home-grown Hass avocado, sliced hot-house cocktail tomatoes, salsa, and thin-sliced romaine lettuce.

Damn, those were good!

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#224781 - 06/03/12 08:45 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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I dunno, Logtroll. I love lobster and shrimp of every variety, but crawdads alwasy taste a litle too much like mud to me. At least that's my impression from all the times I have eaten them down in Lousiana.

Now a shrimp po'boy, on the other hand... Bow

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#224782 - 06/03/12 08:45 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Logtroll~I don't like or eat shellfish. Sorry.
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#224784 - 06/03/12 08:46 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I made some smoked chicken tacos last night: Slow-smoked chicken breast meat chunks, feta cheese, late-season home-grown Hass avocado, sliced hot-house cocktail tomatoes, salsa, and thin-sliced romaine lettuce.

Damn, those were good!


Those sound yummy!
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#224786 - 06/03/12 09:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I dunno, Logtroll. I love lobster and shrimp of every variety, but crawdads alwasy taste a litle too much like mud to me. At least that's my impression from all the times I have eaten them down in Lousiana.

Now a shrimp po'boy, on the other hand... Bow

Sounds like a water quality issue. The Montana streams run clear as vodka.
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#224799 - 06/04/12 07:07 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Funny. I don't think of Crawdads as food, they are the little ones and good only for catfish bait.
Speaking of bait, I tried sushi when it first became trendy up north many moons ago. A number of friends were raving about it, so I figured that I'd try it. If it weren't for the rice and seaweed, I don't believe that it would have any flavor. I then asked myself, why am I eating expensive bait- raw fish- that may contain parasites no matter how skillfully prepared? Nowadays it probably glows in the dark.

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#224871 - 06/04/12 11:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Anisakid larvae in the body cavity of a herring

Anisakis

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Anisakis is a genus of parasitic nematodes, which have a life cycle involving fish and marine mammals. They are infective to humans and cause anisakiasis....
Anisakiasis is a human parasitic infection of the gastrointestinal tract caused by the consumption of raw or undercooked seafood containing larvae of the nematode Anisakis simplex....
Fewer than ten cases occur annually in the United States....
Anisakiasis can be easily prevented by adequate cooking at temperatures greater than 60°C or freezing. The FDA recommends all shellfish and fish intended for raw consumption be blast frozen to -35°C or below for fifteen hours or be regularly frozen to -20°C or below for seven days....
Many countries require all types of fish with potential risk intended for raw consumption to be previously frozen to kill parasites....
For the worm, humans are a dead-end host. Anisakis and Pseudoterranova larvae cannot survive in humans, and will eventually die. In some cases, the infection will resolve with only symptomatic treatment. In other cases, however, infection can lead to small bowel obstruction, which may require surgery....

I love sushi, and in almost all respects it is very healthful eating.
In Canada -- and presumably in the USA, if the proper FDA regulations are enforced -- freezing guarantees that parasitic worms and other pathogens are not a problem to worry about in eating sushi. Any carcasses of nematodes that might be present simply add to the protein you are consuming.
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#224874 - 06/05/12 05:36 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I'll pass. I did, however, get into raw Apalachicola oysters. About 1 or 2 people per season would get sick from them, but they usually (not always)had a suppressed immune system. At any rate, I stopped eating them following the BP oil disaster. I even stopped making oyster stuffing.

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You should get British Columbia oysters, they still seem to be safe -- provided they do not come from an area near a wood pulp processing plant which pumps dioxins and other bad stuff into the ocean so that the paper you use is lily-white rather than brown.
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#224904 - 06/05/12 12:43 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I have to say that there is one exception to my "no shellfish" rule. I'll eat crab, if it is not in the shell and mixed with something else(crab cakes are a favorite), and I'll eat clam chowder(both styles).

Numan~I'll have to tell my sister about BC oysters. She loves them, but after the BP disaster, she quit eating them. She'll be happy for the information. Thanks.
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#224908 - 06/05/12 12:51 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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You should get British Columbia oysters, they still seem to be safe -- provided they do not come from an area near a wood pulp processing plant which pumps dioxins and other bad stuff into the ocean so that the paper you use is lily-white rather than brown.
We're probably the last generation to eat salt water seafood. A trout by the babbling brook is picturesque and delicious, but overall I love that saltwater seafood. Unfortunately, the fisheries are dying, the ocean is being "plasticized," and what's left Fukushima will finish off.

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#224909 - 06/05/12 12:58 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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It is sad that freshwater fish are more prone to dangerous parasites than sea fish.

Be sure to cook that delicious trout thoroughly.
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Trichinella spiralis larvae in muscle tissue

Those who are squeamish about eating sushi should consider that there is greater danger from eating other meats, particularly wild game and pork.

Trichinosis

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About 11 million individuals are infected with Trichinella; Trichinella spiralis is the species responsible for most of these infections. Infection was once very common, but is now rare in the developed world....The number of cases has decreased because of legislation prohibiting the feeding of raw meat garbage to hogs, increased commercial and home freezing of pork, and the public awareness of the danger of eating raw or undercooked pork products....
Larvae may be killed by the heating or irradiation of raw meat. Freezing is only usually effective for T. spiralis, since other species, such as T. nativa, are freeze resistant and can survive long-term freezing.
* All meat (including pork) can be safely prepared by cooking to an internal temperature of 165 °F (74 °C) or more for 15 seconds or more.
* Wild game: Wild game meat must be cooked thoroughly....
Freezing wild game does not kill all trichinosis larval worms. This is because the worm species that typically infests wild game can resist freezing.
* Pork: Freezing cuts of pork less than 6 inches thick for 20 days at 5 °F (-15 °C) or three days at -4 °F (-20 °C) kills T. spiralis larval worms but will not kill other trichinosis larval worm species such as T. nativa if they have infested your pork food supply (which is unlikely).
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#224912 - 06/05/12 01:02 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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I have to say that there is one exception to my "no shellfish" rule. I'll eat crab, if it is not in the shell and mixed with something else(crab cakes are a favorite), and I'll eat clam chowder(both styles).
Dungeness crab (those large ones in CA?)? I'm familiar with blue crabs. I love crab. I once made a wonderful crab (blue crab backfin) cake. I also purchased soft shell crabs at a farmers' market where I could buy fresh (live) soft shell crabs. Large were about .75 to a buck and jumbo about 1.50. I also made a decent crab soup and omelet.

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#224913 - 06/05/12 01:06 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Those who are squeamish about eating sushi should consider that there is greater danger from eating other meats, particularly wild game and pork.
You may be right about wild game, but I believe that you're mistaken about pork. Trichinosis was a problem quite some time ago (hence the Biblical prohibitions), but that was some time ago.

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#224921 - 06/05/12 01:49 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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I have to say that there is one exception to my "no shellfish" rule. I'll eat crab, if it is not in the shell and mixed with something else(crab cakes are a favorite), and I'll eat clam chowder(both styles).
Dungeness crab (those large ones in CA?)? I'm familiar with blue crabs. I love crab. I once made a wonderful crab (blue crab backfin) cake. I also purchased soft shell crabs at a farmers' market where I could buy fresh (live) soft shell crabs. Large were about .75 to a buck and jumbo about 1.50. I also made a decent crab soup and omelet.


Dungeness is what is common around here. I cannot stand to look at them in the shell. Unfortunately for me, the Chinese market, where I do some shopping at only carries live fish and shellfish in big tanks. You are able to pick whichever one you want.

I do like wild-caught salmon(especially copper river species) and wild Alaskan halibut. But not with any heavy sauces.
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#224922 - 06/05/12 01:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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It is sad that freshwater fish are more prone to dangerous parasites than sea fish.

Be sure to cook that delicious trout thoroughly.


When I traveled to Canada 30 years ago, we fished for trout in the middle of the province up by Prince George. That was great trout, which we seasoned with butter, lemon, some wild garlic and wrapped in foil. We then baked them among the coals. I think that due to the colder water temperatures, Canadian trout tastes better than trout from the lower US 48.
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#224923 - 06/05/12 02:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Many moons ago I was in San Francisco, I hit the Fisherman's Wharf with a passion. Loved the place. I intended to try to Californian crab, but never got around to it. The red snapper, etc. got in the way. Stayed in Tiburon (sp?) to save money and took the ferry in morning. Drove up along the coast. Had a great time. Ate a lot of good food and drank the world's best wine! Met a lot of wonderful people. What a great area!

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#224925 - 06/05/12 02:13 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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#224930 - 06/05/12 02:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Many moons ago I was in San Francisco, I hit the Fisherman's Wharf with a passion. Loved the place. I intended to try to Californian crab, but never got around to it. The red snapper, etc. got in the way. Stayed in Tiburon (sp?) to save money and took the ferry in morning. Drove up along the coast. Had a great time. Ate a lot of good food and drank the world's best wine! Met a lot of wonderful people. What a great area!


Fisherman's Wharf is wonderful! And yes, you spelled "Tiburon" correctly. ThumbsUp
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#224932 - 06/05/12 02:45 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Thank you, mam. I had a great time. Met a lot of really good people.

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#224944 - 06/05/12 06:41 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Numan, I promised you my beet soup recipe a while back.
Here it is and Beets are in season!


Beet Soup

1 beet, medium dice
1 onion, small dice
1 potato medium dice
4 cups chicken broth
4 Tbsp butter
Bay leaf
1Tbsp fresh chopped dill weed
1Tbsp fresh basil

Salt and pepper to taste

1/2 cup sour cream
1/2 cup cream

Saute onion in butter until transparent.
Add chicken broth and bring to a boil
Add beet, potato bay leaf, basil, and dill,
cook until tender. Add sour cream and cream.
Blend with immersion blender until smooth.
Correct seasoning.
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#224953 - 06/05/12 08:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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That beet soup recipe sounds delicious.
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#224970 - 06/05/12 10:18 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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It's not just delicious it's amazing. If you make this soup with canned beets it comes out a beautiful pink. If you do it with a good fresh beet it's almost blood red. I ate the whole pot of soup with fresh bread and Leffe Brown Ale.

Borscht, Bread, and Beer.
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#224975 - 06/05/12 11:22 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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It is sad that freshwater fish are more prone to dangerous parasites than sea fish.

Be sure to cook that delicious trout thoroughly.


When I traveled to Canada 30 years ago, we fished for trout in the middle of the province up by Prince George. That was great trout, which we seasoned with butter, lemon, some wild garlic and wrapped in foil. We then baked them among the coals. I think that due to the colder water temperatures, Canadian trout tastes better than trout from the lower US 48.

The best trout I ever had was in the lower 48. A buddy and I went on a 130 mile backpacking trip across the Frank Church River Of No Return Wilderness. Five days in we had been living on gorp, oatmeal, spinach noodles, dried apricots, and tea. We spent a long day descending from the alpine region of the Bighorn Crags down to the Middle Fork of the Salmon River, then up Big Creek for a couple of miles. I almost stepped on a timber rattler that Ron, in his fatigue, had just stepped over in the trail, thinking it was a pile of sticks. I thought it was a pile of sticks, too, except that it was rattling and all coiled up.

We made camp in a large cave, excavated by some crazy-ass miners eighty years earlier. Ron started a fire and I took my fly rod down to Big Creek about 30 feet away. Within five minutes I had caught two fat westslope cutthrout trout and cleaned them. They went right on the little grill we had with us, with a tiny bit of butter. Ten minutes later we were licking our fingers after an utterly transcendent dining experience.
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#224979 - 06/05/12 11:43 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: logtroll]
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The best coffee I ever had was seven days later on the same hike. We found a partial 3 pound can of Folgers lying in the trail, probably lost by a horse packer. Getting close to the end of our trip we were a bit ahead of schedule for meeting our ride at Mackay Bar on the South Fork of the Salmon. So we made camp at 1:00 in the afternoon and started a pot of cowboy coffee, which is a pan of water heated on the campfire with some coffee grounds thrown in. We drank the finest coffee in the world for the next four hours.
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#224983 - 06/06/12 01:08 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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#225004 - 06/06/12 12:47 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Thank you, Greger, for giving us your borscht recipe.
It is not too different from the way I have been making it, except that I use seared cubes of beef and do not blend it -- so I guess it is more like a stew. I also add only sour cream at the table -- I like the color contrast.

Naturally, living here in New Age Lotus Land, I have many vegetarian friends, so if I substitute vegetable broth (I wonder if miso would work?), I think your recipe would be good to serve to guests.
(Japanese-East European borscht? -- ah, well, we do live in the 21st century!)
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#225032 - 06/06/12 07:30 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I think your chunky recipe might be more Russian or Ukrainian than mine, which I consider to be a Polish Creamed Beet Soup - Barszcz Zabielany But I'm not Polish and I wrote the recipe myself without any input from a Polish Babka.
Technically I think the broth should be the water that Kielbasa was cooked in. But this is a small, fast, pot of soup that is gloriously delicious. In it's simplest form, a can of beets, an onion, and a potato, a couple of chicken or beef bouillon cubes, water and a dollop of sour cream will get supper on the table in a matter of minutes.
It's kind of a pain if you don't have an immersion blender though, I'd hate to do it in a regular blender.

For Vegans you might need to use a soft silken tofu instead of sour cream and a couple of teaspoons of vinegar to correct the acidity.

While I've been thinking about beets I've looked at a variety of recipes online and the one which seems most exciting is a very large pot of Borscht cooked with a rack of spareribs in it.
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#225076 - 06/07/12 01:22 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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You can boil spareribs? !! · · tonbricks

Your point about correcting for acidity is a good one.
I will keep it in mind.
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#225080 - 06/07/12 01:39 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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You can boil spareribs? !! · · tonbricks

Your point about correcting for acidity is a good one.
I will keep it in mind.


Yes, it helps to make sure the pork is thoroughly cooked.
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#225561 - 06/12/12 04:31 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Lasagna. About once or twice a month. Everybody likes it. However, there's a problem. For the no-boil noodles, the instructions say to cut a layer or two off the recipe. Nope. Bake as you will. Just put a cookie sheet under what you're baking and adjust for the cookie sheet (about 3-5 minutes additional timing). It's not your grandfather's lasagna, but it still tastes good.

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#225567 - 06/12/12 07:17 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Sounds good, Joe! Lasagna isn't in my repertoire. I love it but I never make it
I don't cook much Italian at all. Maybe I'll work it into the menu this month, the budget is gonna be tight so I'll need to cook some stuff I can stretch out a ways.

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You can boil spareribs? !! tonbricks · ·

Not normally. Three hours in the oven at 250 degrees will generally get you perfect ribs, depending on a variety of factors.
But cooking spareribs in Borscht? Think of it as braising.
I often use pork trimmings in Barbecue beans. When you trim regular spareribs into St. Louis style ribs you wind up with a lot of waste, I dice it up and make baked beans.
Spareribs cooked in Borscht would Probably come off the bones and generally be messy to deal with but very very tender if simmered about two hours.
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#225575 - 06/12/12 08:17 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Greger~My mom did the same thing with her baked beans, She would use pork trimmings or bacon when ever she made them, and use real molasses and brown sugar. She would let cook on low all day in the oven.
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#225591 - 06/12/12 10:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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I think cured bacon is a little too fatty and a little too cured. It works for traditional Boston Baked beans but for Barbecue Beans I like a lot little bits and pieces of slowly simmered and tender pork., lots of onions, and a cup or so of barbecue sauce along with the brown sugar and molasses.
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#225596 - 06/13/12 12:34 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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She would let cook on low all day in the oven.

Dang. Just let me have a bowl a them beans of that over jasmine rice and I will think myself to be on the very gates of heaven.
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#225597 - 06/13/12 01:00 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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Dang. Just let me have a bowl a them beans of that over jasmine rice and I will think myself to be on the very gates of heaven.


When you ever come down to SoCal, I'll make you some! grin
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#225598 - 06/13/12 01:05 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I think cured bacon is a little too fatty and a little too cured. It works for traditional Boston Baked beans but for Barbecue Beans I like a lot little bits and pieces of slowly simmered and tender pork., lots of onions, and a cup or so of barbecue sauce along with the brown sugar and molasses.


We liked the smokiness of the bacon. It seemed to compliment the BBQ sauce very well. Whenever we made butter beans, we used onions, fatback or salt pork chopped up fine. Or a smoked ham hock. Those would cook all day, and then we added a dash or two of worcestershire sauce to them. This was traditionally served with a baked ham and stewed greens-at least in our house.
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#225761 - 06/15/12 12:50 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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#225765 - 06/15/12 01:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
I think cured bacon is a little too fatty and a little too cured. It works for traditional Boston Baked beans but for Barbecue Beans I like a lot little bits and pieces of slowly simmered and tender pork., lots of onions, and a cup or so of barbecue sauce along with the brown sugar and molasses.


We liked the smokiness of the bacon. It seemed to compliment the BBQ sauce very well. Whenever we made butter beans, we used onions, fatback or salt pork chopped up fine. Or a smoked ham hock. Those would cook all day, and then we added a dash or two of worcestershire sauce to them. This was traditionally served with a baked ham and stewed greens-at least in our house.


You have to email me that butter bean recipe. I may just be able to kill my husband with it if I can get him to eat the entire container. He LOVES butter beans. You don't mind being and accessory to murder, do you?
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#225788 - 06/15/12 03:54 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Siannan]
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It's good to see you Siannan!
I just picked up a pound each of dried Lima, Navy, and Great Northern beans because of this thread.

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#225800 - 06/15/12 06:29 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Siannan]
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I may just be able to kill my husband with it if I can get him to eat the entire container. He LOVES butter beans. You don't mind being and accessory to murder, do you?

Why don't you just bean him with a mallet, or something?
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#225816 - 06/15/12 09:21 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Funny, I hadn't caught up on the bean posts lately, but my wife just asked me to soak some pintos so I can cook up a pot of beans tomorrow. I use either minced bacon or ground pork sausage, onion, garlic, brown sugar, ground pasilla chili pepper, plus a little hot sauce and smoke flavor.

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#225819 - 06/15/12 10:45 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Okay, that's it. I'm soakin' some Butterbeans!

Here comes "BUTTERBEAN"



Eric Scott Esch (born August 3, 1966) is an American heavyweight boxer, kick boxer, professional wrestler, and mixed martial artist commonly referred to as Butterbean.
He is the former IBA Super-Heavyweight Champion and also held the WAA Heavyweight title. His combined professional fight record currently stands at 97 wins with 67 knockouts, 20 losses and 5 draws. Butterbean currently resides in Jasper, Alabama where he owns a restaurant, Mr Bean BBQ.

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#225822 - 06/16/12 08:05 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I wouldn't complaint about the beans (or anything else) in his restaurant!

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#225825 - 06/16/12 09:12 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Tonights feast will be a pan roasted thick cut new york strip steak, horseradish mashed taters, caramelised onions and a pan jus.

(28 day aged beef! It pays to build a good relationship with your butcher)

Ill may add some garlic and thyme into the pan when roasting, but i think i may want to let the beef flavour shine instead. Decisions,decisions.

I have 2 kilos of onions for caramelising, they freeze up great. Will be used over the coming weeks for french onion soup, crostini toppings, and as a base for curry.
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#225827 - 06/16/12 09:58 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Sounds great Schlackie! I went out for Prime Rib with the neighbors last night but got those beans for tonight!
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I have something like 50 kilos of onions right now. Several hundred of them. It's my onion crop for the year. Some of them will keep for most of the year, others, the big sweet ones, wont.
I never thought of caramelizing and freezing, thanks, I'll get right on that!
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#225871 - 06/17/12 01:11 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Here is a great warm weather snack -- or meal !!

Chinese Lettuce Wrap

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Lettuce wraps are basically minced chicken (or pork) wrapped up in fresh iceberg lettuce leaves served with hoisin dipping sauce. Lettuce wraps are tasty and very refreshing and come complete with a crunchy texture of the cold iceberg lettuce leaf. They are healthy and great for the palate.
People love to play with their food, in this case, the assembling–and eating–of lettuce wraps are fun to many people....
For the dipping sauce, I added some ponzu sauce to the typical hoisin-chili dip to give it an extra layer of flavor. Lettuce wraps also go extremely well with sweet chili sauce, so it’s totally up to you how you want to devour these tasty lettuce wraps.

Of course, you can use more delicate types of lettuce, but I find iceberg the easiest.

I often use freshly washed lettuce leaves, and just cut-up barbequed pork and a dab of hoisin sauce in the middle of the leaf, wrap it up, and eat -- quick, easy, and delicious!

You can find lots of ways to gussy it up, for example, HERE and HERE.
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#225874 - 06/17/12 02:48 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Siannan]
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I think cured bacon is a little too fatty and a little too cured. It works for traditional Boston Baked beans but for Barbecue Beans I like a lot little bits and pieces of slowly simmered and tender pork., lots of onions, and a cup or so of barbecue sauce along with the brown sugar and molasses.


We liked the smokiness of the bacon. It seemed to compliment the BBQ sauce very well. Whenever we made butter beans, we used onions, fatback or salt pork chopped up fine. Or a smoked ham hock. Those would cook all day, and then we added a dash or two of worcestershire sauce to them. This was traditionally served with a baked ham and stewed greens-at least in our house.


You have to email me that butter bean recipe. I may just be able to kill my husband with it if I can get him to eat the entire container. He LOVES butter beans. You don't mind being and accessory to murder, do you?


Siannan, here it is:

1 bag dried butter beans, washed and soaked overnight
2 white or yellow onions chopped fine
1 clove garlic crushed and diced
2-3 stalks celery-diced
1 carrot diced
2-3 tablespoons olive oil or butter
1-2 smoked ham hocks
1/2 teaspoon ground sage
1 teaspoon parsley
1/2 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
salt to taste
Pepper to taste

In large dutch oven, saute onions, garlic, celery and carrots in oil or butter until onions are transparent. Add drained beans, ham hocks and seasonings add water to cover cook on low until beans are tender, about 3-4 hours, but taste-test. I like to serve this with greens(Kale, mustard, collard or Spinach) and corn bread. The best way to make cornbread is to mix your batter, and pour into a greased cast iron skillet, and bake in the oven. when you stew the greens, use a a piece of bacon to season. If you like it spicy, serve with Tabasco sauce on the side, or season with a bit of cayenne pepper.
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#225876 - 06/17/12 02:51 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Here is a great warm weather snack -- or meal !!

Chinese Lettuce Wrap

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Lettuce wraps are basically minced chicken (or pork) wrapped up in fresh iceberg lettuce leaves served with hoisin dipping sauce. Lettuce wraps are tasty and very refreshing and come complete with a crunchy texture of the cold iceberg lettuce leaf. They are healthy and great for the palate.
People love to play with their food, in this case, the assembling–and eating–of lettuce wraps are fun to many people....
For the dipping sauce, I added some ponzu sauce to the typical hoisin-chili dip to give it an extra layer of flavor. Lettuce wraps also go extremely well with sweet chili sauce, so it’s totally up to you how you want to devour these tasty lettuce wraps.

Of course, you can use more delicate types of lettuce, but I find iceberg the easiest.

I often use freshly washed lettuce leaves, and just cut-up barbequed pork and a dab of hoisin sauce in the middle of the leaf, wrap it up, and eat -- quick, easy, and delicious!

You can find lots of ways to gussy it up, for example, HERE and HERE.


One of my favorite things to eat. Easy to make, too!
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#225877 - 06/17/12 03:02 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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She would let cook on low all day in the oven.

Dang. Just let me have a bowl a them beans of that over jasmine rice and I will think myself to be on the very gates of heaven.


The secret of delicious baked beans is to keep them covered with water at all times except during the last hour of baking.

2-quart bean pot
2 teaspoons dry mustard
2 pounds white pea beans(I prefer navy beans)
4 teaspoons salt
1 pound fat salt pork
1/2 teaspoon ground pepper
8 ounces of BBQ sauce
1 medium size onion
2/3 cup molasses
1 teaspoon baking soda
3 tablespoons brown sugar

Soak beans overnight in water.

In the morning, rinse the beans and cover with fresh water that you have added 1 teaspoon of baking soda and parboil them for 10 minutes.

Run cold water through the beans in a colander or strainer. Score salt pork into 1- inch squares, then cut in. Put 1/2 of the salt pork on the bottom of the bean pot with whole peeled onion. Put beans in the pot and put the rest of the salt pork on top.

Mix other ingredients with boiling water and pour over beans. Bake in preheated 250 degree F oven for 8 hours. Keep adding water as necessary to keep the beans moist, but be sure not to flood the beans. Do not cover.

Serves 8 to 10.

I have never served these over rice, but I guess you could...grin
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#225884 - 06/17/12 05:37 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Of course, you can use more delicate types of lettuce, but I find iceberg the easiest.



Little Gem is perfect, ready made lettuce cups
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#225887 - 06/17/12 07:31 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Your baked bean recipe is about the same as mine, sans the BBQ sauce. I'll add the BBQ sauce next time that I make beans. You might consider serving a side of crispy and cold coleslaw with the baked beans. The hot cold contrast work well together.

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#225888 - 06/17/12 07:52 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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All this talk about beans got me hungry, so I made a pot of bean soup last night and just had some for breakfast. I had picked up a package of Hurst's HamBeens 15 Bean Soup mix, but you can substitute a pound of Great Northern, Navy, or whatever you prefer. I more or less follow the package's directions, which are simple and don't require anything exotic or that you won't use again.

Recipe (more or less): After soaking beans overnight, drain water, and rinse. Add two quarts of water and 1 lb ham hocks, add the 2 quarts of water and meat to beans, bring to boil, reduce heat, and simmer (light boil) uncovered for 2 and 1/2 hours. If necessary, add some water. Then add one diced onion, one can 14.5 oz. diced tomatoes or tomato equivalent (you can use more, such as a 28 oz. can), 1 tsp. chili powder, juice from one lemon and garlic to taste (one to two cloves- I use about a bulb). Simmer another 30 minutes and add contents of ham packet 1-2 minutes before cooking is completed if you have a ham packet to add (you really don't need it). Salt and pepper to taste. I like the variety of the 15 Bean Soup mix. IMO- tastes pretty good.

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#225892 - 06/17/12 09:36 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Last night two po' folk ate po'k ribs, 'tater salad and coleslaw. No dessert - well, if you consider Greek yogurt 4% - dessert.
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#225896 - 06/17/12 10:41 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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Cows produce milk? 40% of British young adults unaware

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Less than half of this younger generation of consumers knew that butter comes from dairy cows, according to the DailyMail. Among the adults, 58 percent knew where butter comes from, but still 2 percent thought it was produced by pigs or chickens.
Just 40 percent of the young adults were able to match milk with a cow. Even more shocking, 7 percent of them associated it with wheat.
Young adults were just as confused about other food products as well:
33 percent didn’t know eggs are produced by chickens; 11 percent thought eggs are made of wheat or corn
36 percent were unaware that bacon comes from pigs
One in 10 thought new potatoes took less than a month to grow
One in five said that jam is produced by cereal crops
Young adults think beef cows do more than just produce beef - 8 percent though beef cows produce milk for humans, and 1 percent thought they produce eggs

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#225897 - 06/17/12 10:49 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I made Butterbeans yesterday, added a cup of diced fresh Pork Belly, two big onions diced and two seeded diced jalapenos.
I served em up with homemade whole wheat bread.

How'd you cook them ribs, Rick? Let me know if you need the recipe for a great Nut Rub.
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#225898 - 06/17/12 10:55 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Too bad we neanderthal Americans are incapable of emulating the high culture of the British Empire - right, noomie?

I wonder where the Queen's eggs and milk come from?
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#225901 - 06/17/12 11:03 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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#225911 - 06/17/12 11:54 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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The lettuce wraps sound real good and I'll try them. What this peasant likes is a lot of very cold iceberg lettuce on a large plate with a very hot hamburger pattie on the lettuce bed with a cold fresh diced tomato spread over it, topped with some mayo. Not gourmet, but I like it.

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#225914 - 06/17/12 12:21 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Many Thai salads are served with large lettuce leaves for wrapping. My favorite is a fiery Green Papaya salad(som tum)
Green papayas are pretty hard to find though.

Back to beans laugh

Scout, I always cover my baked beans. Whether I'm doing simple Boston Baked Beans or a meaty, more complex, Barbecue bean recipe. The old ceramic bean pots were made so that very little moisture was lost during cooking.
I do most other beans on the stovetop in a Dutch Oven, covered and simmered very slowly until the beans are tender then I remove the lid and simmer a little longer to reduce the liquid a little bit.
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#225916 - 06/17/12 12:23 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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If the beef is hormone-free and antibiotic-free, you may manage to rise above peasant status.
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#225918 - 06/17/12 12:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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How'd you cook them ribs, Rick? Let me know if you need the recipe for a great Nut Rub.

I "cooked" the ribs by going to Sticky Chicken and Ribs. Nut rub? Is that legal in Cali? Pro'lly as long as money doesn't exchange hands. smile
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#225920 - 06/17/12 12:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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I'm pretty sure it's legal everywhere, and there's really nothing like a sweet Nut Rub on your ribs and shoulders.
It's great for a picnics and butts too!
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#225924 - 06/17/12 01:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Nut rub on the butt.

glad I got that out of the way

Tonight:

A thick pork chop, riced tater, garlic wilted spinach and roasted red sweet peppers*.

* simple as hell. slice red pepper, place skin side up under broiler, broil until skin blackens, put pepper pieces into a pastic ziplock bag, seal and cover with a tea towel.

After 20 mins the skin will peel easily off, a drizzle of olive oil and they're ready.
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#225925 - 06/17/12 01:36 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Sliced red or orange peppers, blue cheese and rice crackers make a nice snack.

By the way, Schlack, thanks for the heads-up on Little Gem lettuce.
In the Wonderland of New-Age foods where I live, I am sure it is available -- I just haven't noticed it.
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#225929 - 06/17/12 02:18 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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My mom had a beautiful bean pot that she used to make the BBQ baked beans. She used a dutch oven for most of the other bean recipes that we ate. We always had black-eyed peas for New Years, growing up. She would make them, using the same recipe we use for butter beans, except we used slat pork and pork bits, instead of ham hocks. No smoky flavor. I like the 15 bean combo. Our grocery stores sell that in a bag for soup. It comes with a seasoning packet, but my family doesn't like it as much as our usual family recipe.

I've seen Little Gem lettuce at the organic market. I'll try some with the diced chicken filling. Thanks for the tip, schlack!

Tonight, for Father's Day, we are having Mr. Scoutgal's favorite meal. Pot Roast slow cooked all day in the crock pot. I seared the roast, and sprayed the crock pot with vegetable spray. Dropped in the roast, covered with pearl onions, carrots, celery stalks and red rose potatoes. Seasoned with kosher salt, paprika, two bay leaves, parsley, two cloves of garlic and pepper. For liquid, I add one cup dry red wine(I like a good burgundy), 4 cups beef stock or beef broth, and if needed, water to cover. Cook on low for at least 6 hours. I serve it with King's Hawaiian rolls and butter. Oh, I also make a gravy from the liquid with Wondra and a whisk. No lumps!
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#225930 - 06/17/12 02:19 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Sliced red or orange peppers, blue cheese and rice crackers make a nice snack.


Now that would be a great summer lunch! ThumbsUp
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#225940 - 06/17/12 02:58 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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I serve it with King's Hawaiian rolls and butter.

More trivia! In Hawaii “Hawaiian rolls" (or bread) has always been known as Portuguese sweet bread. Or Pao doce. It was originally brought to Hawaii by the Portuguese immigrants over 100 years ago and is very popular there, just like the Portuguese sausage. Or linguica.

But when it become popular on the mainland the name was changed to Hawaiian bread-- which has given me a little chuckle.
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#225947 - 06/17/12 03:14 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I always do pot roast in the oven -- I must try your crock-pot recipe, thanks!

I have never used burgundy for pot roast, but I like the idea. There is a cheap California "burgundy" which I use for cooking -- I won't advertise its name, but it has a supposed religious connection -- it is hideous as a beverage, but good for cooking.

For gravy, I heat butter in a deep, heavy skillet, add flour while stirring, let it get slightly brown, add the pot roast juices slowly, while stirring, and reduce the liquid on low heat.
Old fashioned, I know, but its easy, and it works!
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#225951 - 06/17/12 03:18 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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I serve it with King's Hawaiian rolls and butter.

More trivia! In Hawaii “Hawaiian rolls" (or bread) has always been known as Portuguese sweet bread. Or Pao doce. It was originally brought to Hawaii by the Portuguese immigrants over 100 years ago and is very popular there, just like the Portuguese sausage. Or linguica.

But when it become popular on the mainland the name was changed to Hawaiian bread-- which has given me a little chuckle.


I did not know that! I love learning stuff like that.
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#225952 - 06/17/12 03:20 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I always do pot roast in the oven -- I must try your crock-pot recipe, thanks!

I have never used burgundy for pot roast, but I like the idea. There is a cheap California "burgundy" which I use for cooking -- I won't advertise its name, but it has a supposed religious connection -- it is hideous as a beverage, but good for cooking.

For gravy, I heat butter in a deep, heavy skillet, add flour while stirring, let it get slightly brown, add the pot roast juices slowly, while stirring, and reduce the liquid on low heat.
Old fashioned, I know, but its easy, and it works!


numan~Your reipe is the only way I've made gravy. I just use Wondra instead of flour. Roux-based gravies are the best! ThumbsUp
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#225956 - 06/17/12 03:31 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Pot roast without the Burgundy is Pot Roast.
Pot roast with the Burgundy is Beef Bourguignon.
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#225959 - 06/17/12 03:34 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Pot roast without the Burgundy is Pot Roast.
Pot roast with the Burgundy is Beef Bourguignon.


Then that is what I've always made. grin
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#225965 - 06/17/12 03:58 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I guess Iceberg is good for cups, since it holds its shape pretty well. I prefer red or green leaf lettuce for wraps, because they are more flexible. You can wrap a leaf tightly, fold it, tuck it under itself, etc. without breakage. All the Vietnamese restaurants around here use the green leaf lettuce.

The red is prettier, but seems to go bad a LOT faster in the crisper.

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#225966 - 06/17/12 04:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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1 bag dried butter beans, washed and soaked overnight


Hey, Scoutgal: Is that a one pound bag, two pound bag, or what? I usually buy dry beans by the 10 pound bag at a restaurant supply place, but I've seen all sorts of different-sized bags at the supermarket. And of course, bins and barrels at the local "healthy food" chains.

I want to expand my bean standard dishes, so I'm going to try both of your recipes.

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#225969 - 06/17/12 04:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Grocery store bags are usually 1 pound bags. It's in the neighborhood of two cups of dry beans.
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#225972 - 06/17/12 04:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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1 bag dried butter beans, washed and soaked overnight


Hey, Scoutgal: Is that a one pound bag, two pound bag, or what? I usually buy dry beans by the 10 pound bag at a restaurant supply place, but I've seen all sorts of different-sized bags at the supermarket. And of course, bins and barrels at the local "healthy food" chains.

I want to expand my bean standard dishes, so I'm going to try both of your recipes.


Oops! A two pound bag. Sorry! blush
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#225973 - 06/17/12 04:29 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Grocery store bags are usually 1 pound bags. It's in the neighborhood of two cups of dry beans.


I get mine at the health food store. They come in both one and two pound bags.
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#225979 - 06/17/12 04:48 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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I don't know what I'd do with more than a pound of beans, I figured those 2 pound bags were for big families. I only cook a pound at a time even if I'm having company and could easily get by cooking a single cup of beans for myself. I ate beans for supper and froze a quart of Butterbeans and have a pint in the fridge from just a single pound of dried baby limas.

I'm making cream of chicken soup for supper. I stewed a couple of leg quarters, pulled them out to cool down so I could debone them, added a few fresh herbs to the stock and came in here for a few minutes.
I just went back to bone the chicken and the damn dog ate every bit of it. It really wont change the soup much but it wont have chunks of meat in it now unless I drag out a frozen chicken breast and toss it in. Maybe I'll do that...
Damn dog.

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#225991 - 06/17/12 05:41 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I have two dry cups of pintos soaking since last night. I'll cook them tonight, put them in the fridge, and we'll have beans for the week. (They improve a bit overnight.)

I may cut the butter bean recipe in half, since it's just for the two of us. We are usually tired of beans by the time we get through one pound.

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#225995 - 06/17/12 08:30 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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When I make the butter bean recipe, it was for 5 adults, and there were usually enough leftover beans for one more meal. I had two teenaged boys most of the time, and they ate like there was no tomorrow. If the beans weren't the main dish, but a side, I would only make half. I served them with a baked ham, greens and cornbread.When my mom made this, we had a family of six.
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#226002 - 06/17/12 10:15 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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The pot roast turned out very well. Enough leftovers for one more meal, and extra potatoes for frying up for breakfast. Mr. Scoutgal had two helpings of everything, and still left room for dessert-coconut cream pie! This is Mr. Scoutgal's favorite meal, and very apropo for Father's Day. grin
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#226009 - 06/17/12 11:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Pot roast without the Burgundy is Pot Roast.
Pot roast with the Burgundy is Beef Bourguignon.
Beef Bourguignon with red wine sauce, egg noodles, and green beans is one of my favorite dishes. I tie and then marinate a bottom round in 500-750 ml (or more)of a dry red- usually Cabernet- along with a can of beef broth and a couple cloves of garlic overnight in the refrigerator (can leave it in longer), then sear the meat in a large pan on the stove, and then bake it.

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#226025 - 06/18/12 11:30 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Just a minor technicality here, Joe, but pot roast is braised, not baked or roasted.
Braising(cooking in liquid) can be done in a crock pot or Dutch oven on the stove top but the oven offers a more even heat.
Roasting and baking imply the use of dry heat.

I just don't like Pot Roast or Boef Bourguignon. It's okay, I'll eat it, but I wont generally cook it. I prefer to take all the same ingredients and make a fine Beef Stew.

Anybody ever eat braised Lamb Foreshanks?
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#226027 - 06/18/12 12:32 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Anybody ever eat braised Lamb Foreshanks?


I would eat it almost every day, cept Mrs Schlack doesnt like to eat the prettier animals.

Lamb is a rarity in my household, if you'll pardon the pun.
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#226028 - 06/18/12 01:29 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Hrrmph...aint nuthi'n pretty about a sheep. Lamb Pie, Lamb Stew, Lamb Chops, Roast Leg, Braised Shanks...now those are pretty! As livestock goes Lamb is treated fairly well. It's purely a shame what we do to chickens and pigs. Beef cattle at least get to spend some time in a pasture. Sheep may get the best treatment of the lot.
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#226029 - 06/18/12 01:57 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I do know the sheep in our neck lead what looks to me to be a mighty fine life. That is--assuming their don’t comprehend their fate as calories.
They loll around in huge fields of thick, damp, green grass munching away to their hearts content. It’s great succulent lamb too! Shoo whee.

Bring on them shanks and whatever other cuts you might have. To me lamb is the best. BTW I’ve never cooked lamb shanks before but found what looks like some mighty fine recipes on the all knowing net. I can visualize whirled peas and lamb shanks in my immediate future.
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#226071 - 06/18/12 09:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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If you can find it, Tom Valenti's recipe is dA bOmB!
The braising liquid is extremely complex, but oh so worth it.
I got his recipe from the newspaper(Parade Magazine) back in 2002, still have the original clipping in my cookbook.

Hrrrm...that wont be hard to find. I just googled it. I guess I'm not the only one who feels that way about his recipe.
Here it is
It says in this link it was March 2002 but the clipping is dated February 24, 2002. This is the picture in the clipping:

This lamb comes out tender enough to eat with a spoon.
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#226100 - 06/19/12 01:21 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Dear me, Greger! I am sure that it tastes good, but its presentation is rather distressingly too much out of the Stone Age! That enormous bone that must be gnawed at!!

Surely everyone brought up in a well-appointed old-style Japanese house is struck by the sickroom, indeed, the operating room quality, of our table-settings----the shrouded table, the aseptic look of the dinnerware, the variety of surgical instruments for disecting and paring, for cutting a sinew or laying bare a bone. Floral offerings and lighted candles, far from enhancing the food, shift the mood from the convalescent stage to the lying-in-state. Our custom of lighting candles for our live dinner guests is disturbing to a Japanese.
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#226106 - 06/19/12 01:43 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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No need to gnaw at that bone. If you give it a gentle shake the meat falls off onto your plate.

The Japanese may be offended by our dining habits but they certainly eat a few things we'd consider far more unpalatable and bizzarre.

Here's a few more tantalyzing tidbits from the oh so fussy and offended by our cuisine Japanese.

They eat Ice Cream made from horse meat for god's sake!
And they don't like the flowers on out tables?
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#226109 - 06/19/12 02:25 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I like fresh, but.... Many many moons ago I watched a TV segment on Japanese cuisine. It showed a party of about five picking at and eating a live lobster with their chopsticks as it crawled across the table. I draw the line at oysters.

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#226110 - 06/19/12 02:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#226112 - 06/19/12 02:46 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Keegan

I like fresh, but.... Many many moons ago I watched a TV segment on Japanese cuisine. It showed a party of about five picking at and eating a live lobster with their chopsticks as it crawled across the table.

That is definitely not normal Japanese cuisine!!
Most Japanese would be as horrified as you are!!

It is like suggesting that American college students are addicted to swallowing live goldfish !!
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#226113 - 06/19/12 02:49 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Hey, I like fermented soy beans !

Fermented fish sauce has been a part of Western cuisine since the days of the Romans -- who also adored dormice in honey!!
The insecty things are no different than eating crawdads, shrimp, prawns, crab and lobster -- not to mention scallops and oysters !!
And in a proper Japanese restaurant they would be presented artfully and attractively, not in a higgledy-piggledy pile as in your photo !!

I can see you are spoiling for a fight, Greger, so I will match your ten and raise you five ! · · grin

15 American Foods That Are as Weird to Foreigners as Poisonous Blowfish Is to Us

Quote:
"Boiled animal bones and hide, colored with garish chemicals.... "Oh, you like your Jell-O, don't you?"

"I do think biscuits and gravy are gross and strange." -- Hala, Canada via Lebanon

"Bacon and eggs in the morning seemed weird to me. And then I realized that I could wake up really, really early to find myself a nice baguette or croissants for my breakfast!!!!!!" -- Genevieve, France

Then, one might mention :

* Consuming the lactic secretions of ruminants
* Grits -- or maize in all its forms
* Processed cheese [ugh!]
* Squishy "bread"
* The ersatz "food" called "marshmallows"
* Glop that pretends to be something like mayonaise

* And, of course, American hot dogs!! · ·
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#226117 - 06/19/12 04:56 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I don't eat shellfish precisely because it does look like bugs. Therefore, I will not be eating any bugs(on purpose), either. You eat with the eyes first, and my eyes cannot stomach what these crustaceans and bugs look like. sick

lamb, however, is a different kettle of fish! I love lamb chops. roast lamb with mint sauce, lamb stew and lamb pie! ThumbsUp
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#226126 - 06/19/12 06:31 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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All this talk about cute animals reminds of a story:

A traveling salesman was talking with a farmer about the new tractor accessories his company had, when he noticed one of the pigs in the farmer's pen had a wooden leg.

"So what's the story with that pig there?", he asked.

The farmer replied: "That's some kind of pig there, that Bessie. Why we had a fire a couple of months ago, and that smart pig broke out of the pen, busted down the front door, and saved us all!"

The salesman asked: "Did she lose her leg in the fire, then?"

The farmer answered: "No, she was fine. But you know, a pig like that you don't eat all at once!"

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#226134 - 06/19/12 07:52 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Japanese?

Made Miso Ramen on Monday.

Broth: Homemade chicken stock, brown rice miso, sriracha, rice wine vinegar, garlic, ginger, scallions.

Buckwheat soba noodles, boiled egg, ribbons of carrot and zucchini, a few small pieces of leftover chicken, Nori sprinkle to finish.

The most time consuming bowl of instant noodles ever. Totally worth it.


Tonight's delight was:

Aglio et Olio and a little gem side salad with a balsamic vinegarette.


So simple, yet so wonderful.

Tomorrow is mexican night. Chicken fajitas on fresh cooked tortillas, with peppers and onions, home made salsa & Guac with a garlic yoghurt!

3 continents in 3 days!

I'm enjoying a bit of time off at the moment, and so able to put a bit more effort than usual into it.


Edited by Schlack (06/19/12 07:52 PM)
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#226137 - 06/19/12 08:30 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Fried Chicken, French Fries, Butterbeans and a nice healthy salad with homemade Ranch Dressing for me tonight.

Friday I'm doing Cheese Fondue for 200 people. One recipe is a traditional Swiss version with white wine, Gruyere and Ementaler. The other will be aged sharp cheddar with Guinness Stout and a tiny bit of concentrated apple juice.
It's a wine tasting affair and I'll be matching an Italian Pinot Grigio to the fondue.
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#226139 - 06/19/12 08:57 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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a pig like that you don't eat all at once!
LOL LOL LOL
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#226267 - 06/21/12 01:15 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Isn't the King Hawaiian bakery off of the 405 around Normandy AV?
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#226268 - 06/21/12 01:21 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Tonight the po' folk at my house dined-on sautéed wild-caught halibut w/ avocado and heirloom pear tomato salsa over baby field greens with fresh organic heirloom pear tomato vinaigrette with one 2oz crispy polenta cake.

Bob said he would like this dish in regular rotation on the dinner menu. smile

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#226736 - 06/25/12 08:34 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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I bought some lovely cold meats this morning:

smoked ham, pepper salami, mortadella

So am putting together a mezze platter

just finished preparing:

Char grilled baby zucchini
Roast sweet red peppers
home made Hummus
home made Baba Ganoush

and fresh bread just gone into the oven.
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#226743 - 06/25/12 11:35 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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A big score yesterday. Local supermarket had a special on rib eye at $6.99 a pound. Special ended on Saturday but I headed over Sunday AM and checked the meat section and there were some left with some nice discounts. Bought four at about $4.99 a pound after discount. Seasoned them and on the grill they went.
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#226764 - 06/25/12 04:34 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: keysersoze]
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Rib Eye: As far as I'm concerned you could throw the rest of the cow away.

Schlacky...You have sure been eating high on the hog lately.
A tip of the toque to your very worthy culinary endeavors of late!

I just finished fermenting a crock of Kimchi and am going to make pickled plum rice balls to go with it(Ume no onigiri).
A sort of Korean/Japanese fusion.
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#226765 - 06/25/12 04:47 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Rib Eye: As far as I'm concerned you could throw the rest of the cow away.


oh dear, oh dear.


even the short rib?
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#226766 - 06/25/12 04:55 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Schlacky...You have sure been eating high on the hog lately.
A tip of the toque to your very worthy culinary endeavors of late!


yeah, I'm kinda running out of ideas for new meals at this stage, however i have added 5/6 new things to my repitoire and wont be too upset to have to eat them repeatedly.

never had kimchi before - is it worth it? Not too sure Mrs Schlack would eat something that had to ferment.

I'm a Dumbass - Saurkraut!
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#226769 - 06/25/12 05:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I like kimchee in Korean-style soups.

A quick and dirty (and tasty!) way to spice up noodle soups with some vegetable matter !!
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#226779 - 06/25/12 06:44 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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well the great bread experiment didnt go too well.

first of all, kitchen scales bugged out so had to try using bathroom scales - not exactly precise. still I managed.

got a decent dough together and started up the food mixer. The mixer is a bit of an antiquue having belonged to my father, built in the 80s and hadnt been used in over a decade. tested it, and spent an evening cleaning the damn thing.

Dough in mixer - grand for 2 mins, then pop and smoke burst forth from the damn machine. Cue grab, dash and dump of heap of crap machine into back garden.

so endeth the first attempt. Couldnt use the dough as the smoke had ruined it.

second attempt was the good old fashioned hand kneading, bit of a pain but quite theraputic. went fine - eventually after a very sticky start.

first time baking bread, set oven a little too hot and nearly destroyed the loaf. Was just about usable - thinly sliced and toasted.

lessons learned:

buy a new damn scales
less sugar
A longer prove
Oven not so hot.

Any tips from the breadthern?





Edited by Schlack (06/25/12 06:44 PM)
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#226782 - 06/25/12 07:07 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Originally Posted By: Schlack
well the great bread experiment didnt go too well.

first of all, kitchen scales bugged out so had to try using bathroom scales - not exactly precise. still I managed.


Bathroom scale?!?

Baking is a science - literally. You have to measure exactly!

Originally Posted By: Schlack
Any tips from the breadthern?

Buy a bread machine - does all of the work for you! Perfect bread too!


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#226786 - 06/25/12 07:24 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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Bread was going to be made today, one way or another!

I cant buy a breadmaker on the principle that it is a single purpose gadget. Once I figure out this oven Ill be grand!
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#226793 - 06/25/12 08:37 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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This is the recipe that I always started my kids out on. A great bread and simple. For years my wife and I had a 4H cooking club and the highlight was about 20 years ago as part of a town celebration there was a pie baking contest. Three of our group finished ahead of my wife including our son who finished second with a Strawberry-Rhubarb pie.


Sally Lund Bread



List of Ingredients



1 pkg active dry yeast
1/4 cup warm water (105 -115F)
1 3/4 scalded Milk
2 tbsp sugar
1/4 cup butter
1 tsp salt
2 well beaten eggs
5 cups sifted flour (Divided)



Instructions

Dissolve the yeast into warm water.

Combine milk, sugar, butter, and salt in a mixing bowl. Allow to cool. Stir in yeast, eggs, and 3 cups of flour. Add enough additional flour to make a nice soft dough. Place in a greased bowl and turn once to coat all surfaces. Cover and allow to rise in a warm, dark spot.

Punch down and turn onto a lightly floured board. Knead until smooth and elastic. Divide dough in half and form into 2 loaves. Turn into 2 greased 9x5x3 inch loaf pans. Cover and let rise for 1 hour.

Bake at 400 for 15 minutes. Then reduce the temperature to 350 and bake 17 minutes more. Remove from the pans and allow to cool on a wire rack.
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#226796 - 06/25/12 08:50 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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Well Scklackie, I can make bread with just my two hands and a big bowl. But it's messy and time consuming.
Or
I can use my Kitchenaide Mixer for the first mixing steps. When the bread dough crawls up the dough hook it's ready to come out and be kneaded for ten minutes or so, allowed to rise, punched down, kneaded again, formed into a loaf and plopped into the bread pan to rise the second time.

By far the easiest, method is to use a bread machine for the mixing, kneading, first rise, punching down, and second kneading. With my machine that takes exactly one hour.

Then I spray a little oil on the dough, remove it from the bread machine pan and put it into a loaf pan. Spray the top with oil again and press it down into the loaf pan, cover it with plastic wrap, let it rise a half hour and bake it at 350F for 30 minutes.

There is a book Available called
Artisan Bread in Five Minutes A Day
Many find that this method suits their lifestyles best.
It's too fussy for me though.

Here's my recipe, you don't need scales:

Basic White Bread

1 cup warm water(not hot, temp over 140F will kill the yeast)
3 Tbsp Sugar(or less)
3 Tbsp Olive oil
2 1/4 Tsp (1 scant Tbsp) or 1 envelope of active dry or instant yeast

Mix the above ingredients together in a small bowl, set aside. This is called proofing the yeast it will become bubbly and gross looking an about 5 minutes.


Then sift together
3 cups BREAD FLOUR
1 1/2 teaspoons of salt

Measure before you sift, use a dry measuring cup fill the cup heaping full and srape the excess off with the back of a knife.
Sift the flour into a very large bowl, you need room to work so the bigger the better.
Make a well in the sifted dry ingredients.
Pour about half the liquid into the well and stir is small circles with a blending fork. spreading the flour outward and incorporating the liquid into the flour, add the rest of the liquid before all of the first in used up.

Now, get in there with your hands and start mashing it together until it forms into a ball. Depending on the weather you may need to add a tablespoon or so of water or a tablespoon or so of flour. Transfer the ball of dough to a clean,floured work surface. Press it down and away from yourself, fold it over, press it down and away from yourself, dredge it with flour if it's sticky, form it back up and press it down and away, form, press, form, press over and over, you may have guessed that this is kneading the dough.
After a few minutes it will become silky smooth and a little bit shiny.

If the big bowl is a mess, wash it and dry it.
At this point there are two schools of thought.
If the bowl came out pretty clean just dredge it with flour, put the ball of dough back in it. dredge the dough with flour, and cover the bowl with a damp towel.

OR
Spray the bowl with oil, plop the dough into it and spray the dough with oil. Cover with a damp towel and ...

Put it in a warm draft-free place to rise for about an hour.
This is called Proofing the Dough
Clean up your messy kitchen. Use a Bench Knife to scrape up the excess flour and bits and bobs of dough that are stuck on your counter top. Don't clean the work area too well though because you have to knead it a little bit more later.

Pre-heat oven to 350F

When you see that the dough is pushing up on the towel and has pretty much Doubled in Size uncover it, punch it down with your fist(you don't have to hit it hard) this is maybe the funnest part of bread making. pffffffffft.

Flour your work surface again and turn the bread dough out onto it, dredge it with flour and begin kneading again, down and away, form it up, down and away, form it up, knead, reform, knead, reform. Until it is smooth and shiny again.
Place it in a well oiled loaf pan, spray the top with oil and mash it down with your knuckles til it's fairly even. If you have two sizes of loaf pans use the bigger one, the little ones are for quick breads like Banana Bread. Cover the loaf with plastic wrap, spray the top of the plastic wrap generously with oil and turn it over so the oily plastic sits loosely on top of the pan. Put it on top of the stove to rise for a half hour to 45 minutes until it rises a little bit higher than the pan. Remove the plastic and pop it into the preheated oven for 30 minutes.
Ovens vary but you want the bread nicely browned on top so 5 or 10 more minute might be needed.

When it looks like it's done remove it from the oven and turn it out of the pan IMMEDIATELY onto a cooling rack.. Or it will steam itself to mush. The bottom and sides of the loaf should be golden, a little bit toasty and should ring hollow when you thump it.
Let it cool almost completely before cutting it

You might also try Irish Soda Bread





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#226797 - 06/25/12 09:16 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: keysersoze]
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Looks like a pretty good recipe Keyser. I'll give it a shot.
I never need two loaves of bread at a time though because I'm single and just don't use it that fast.
I occasionally add a single egg, or a tablespoon of powdered milk, Usually when I make dinner rolls.
I often add a half cup of chopped nuts, sunflower seeds and whatnot. For those who want whole wheat, substitute one cup of whole wheat flour for one of the cups of bread flour.

Just as a point of interest, did you know you don't have to scald milk anymore? That's a holdover from the days of un-pasteurized milk. But all the ingredients should be at room temperature. Cold milk right outa the fridge might gum up the dough a bit.
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#226823 - 06/26/12 08:47 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Greger...my wife - The Lovely Cynthia - enjoys Soda Bread and occasionally will make a batch herself. I really don't enjoy it but when St Patrick's Day rolls around the local markets wheel it out and every other day I'll have to buy a loaf.

You are correct on the scalding and it is my bad for just copying over an online recipe. The one I have has room temp.

I love bread. Big weakness. For breakfast I actually had left over garlic bread from Little Caesar's. We now have two local supermarkets and both have extensive bakeries so there is a wide variety of great stuff. Portuguese Sweet Bread. Fantastic!

I use to bake extensively. For years I was the day care provider for our kids and then scooted off to work an off shift. Kids would help me bake bread and get desserts ready. Oh did they love that cheesecake!

One son actually worked two summers as a cook on the Alaskan Railroad. Just walked in and said he could "Do the job" and he did. Created a menu based on what we had prepared at home.

Greger....love your inside information that you occasionally post with recipe/meals.


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#226826 - 06/26/12 11:00 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: keysersoze]
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I still think that if you want to bake bread on a regular basis, rather than buying it, a bread machine makes it easy enough that you don't get tired of doing it. Making it by hand is fun but isn't something I'm willing to go through every time I need a loaf of bread. I use only the "dough" setting, I never ever let the machine do the baking, and I pull the dough out before it rises the second time in the machine.
I just read back and had missed a few things...
Short Ribs *sigh* My favorite restaurant has them occasionally. I think he braises them in an Alto-Sham oven. It a super slow low heat oven. I haven't perfected a recipe for Short Ribs.
Anybody got one?

Kimchi has been called Korean Cole Slaw, but sauerkraut is really a better description. Usually it's fiery hot and garlicky, it sticks with you for days after you eat it.
I used a chili garlic paste for seasoning but added no additional garlic. Even so it's very strongly flavored. Not for the meek or fussy eater.
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#226850 - 06/26/12 12:30 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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http://www.floramosrestaurant.com/

That is a link to a place I have not been to for years but they had great braised ribs. In fact they had great food period.

I asked about the braised ribs and that is how I heard about the Alto Shaam oven which they used. Never heard of one.

I've always used a crock pot for the ribs and what I do is when they are done sear them in a cast iron skillet. In the crock pot it is just a mixture of wine, tomato paste, some spices or a few other things tossed in. I've also substituted salsa for tomato paste. Nothing fancy. As long as the meat gets tender.
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#226853 - 06/26/12 02:16 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Most likely the restaurant is using an Alto-Shaam® Combioven: It steams and dry heats all-in-one!

Every large quantity feeding places using combiovens these days. I'll bet that is why the ribs are so tender.
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#226855 - 06/26/12 02:27 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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Keyser~I love Sally Lund bread. It was the first bread I ever learned how to bake, when my mom and grandma started teaching me how to cook. Hardly anyone makes it anymore, that I know of. At least not around SoCal!
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#226859 - 06/26/12 03:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Welp, I guess I gotta try the Sally Lund bread now.

Rick, I'm a bigger fan of the Alto-Shaam Cook and Hold Ovens.
If I had a lot of extra cash Id have a half sized one out in my summer kitchen. I've got an old sealed Thermador out there that I use for all my slow cooking.
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#226863 - 06/26/12 05:02 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Scoutgal
Keyser~I love Sally Lund bread. It was the first bread I ever learned how to bake, when my mom and grandma started teaching me how to cook. Hardly anyone makes it anymore, that I know of. At least not around SoCal!


Like I had said we'd start the kids in 4H and our own out on it. I baked it in a bundt pan. Have not done it for years but with a new grand daughter she'll be doing it in about 5 years. Her mother happens to be a baker who graduated from Johnson and Wales so I'll have some competition.

Greger had me hustling over to Trucchi's Supermarket so I can have braised ribs.
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#226869 - 06/26/12 06:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: keysersoze]
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Greger had me hustling over to Trucchi's Supermarket so I can have braised ribs.


*Jealous*

But I just took a big pan of Lasagna out of the oven so I wont be going hungry.
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#226887 - 06/26/12 11:21 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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We had spaghetti for dinner, with salad and garlic bread. Tiramisu for dessert!

Keyser~I'm sure that this new grand daughter will be delighted to learn how to bake with her grandfather! ThumbsUp She will be so lucky to share that with you. smile
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#226902 - 06/27/12 09:42 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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#226919 - 06/27/12 01:28 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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A young man stopped at a local restaurant after a day of roaming around in Mexico.

While sipping his tequila, he noticed a sizzling, scrumptious-looking platter being served at the next table.

It looked good.

It smelled good.

He asked the waiter, "What is that you just served?"

The waiter replied, "Ah senor, you have excellent taste! Those are bull's testicles from the bull fight this morning. A delicacy!"

The visitor, though momentarily daunted, said, "What the heck, I'm on holiday down here! Bring me an order!"

The waiter replied, "I am so sorry senor. There is only one serving per day because there is only one bull fight each morning. If you come early tomorrow and place your order, we will be sure to save you this delicacy!"

The next morning, the man returned, placed his order, and then that evening was served the one and only special delicacy of the day.

After a few bites, and inspecting the contents of his platter, he called to the waiter and said, "These are delicious, but they are much, much smaller than the ones I saw you serve yesterday!"

The waiter shrugged his shoulders and replied, "Si, Senor. Sometimes the bull wins."


And in other culinary news, inspired by the unbearable lightness of bean earlier in the thread, for lunch I made blackeye beans in a spicy tomato sauce (bacon, tomato, onions, garlic, smoked paprika, jalepeneo, cumin and a dash of worstershire).... topped off with black pudding..... beside a ny strip steak.

tonight is something a little lighter:

french onion soup, a green leaf salad and garlic and rosemary rolls.
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#226996 - 06/28/12 06:10 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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The waiter shrugged his shoulders and replied, "Si, Senor. Sometimes the bull wins."
LOL
If you're still searching for a bread breaking technique, you may want to try the book, Artisan Bread in Five Minutes A Day,that Greger referred to in an earlier post. I've been using their technique for some time and it produces delicious bread simply and easily that anyone can make. You don't have to knead the dough and you don't need any scales- just some measuring cups. I even started making Reuben sandwiches again using their deli-rye bread recipe. The only difference is that I use pastrami instead of corned beef and sauerkraut all the time- lots of sauerkraut.

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#227116 - 06/29/12 12:35 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Schlack]
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I made blackeye beans in a spicy tomato sauce

I don't care what it says on the package, Schlack, those are Blackeyed PEAS. Ya I know they aren't round like a proper English Pea, but you're not a proper Englishman and they're peas allright. just like crowders, field peas, conch peas, purple hulls and pinkeyes.
Try that same recipe without the Wooster sauce and add in a healthy dose of Allspice and a dash of cayenne pepper for an Island Flavor. My mama thinks I'm crazy because I hate to shell peas and prefer dried Blackeys to fresh ones. I can't tell you how many hours I spent as a kid sitting on the front porch with a pan of peas on my lap and a bucket to throw the empty shells into. Neighbors, aunts and uncles, neighbor kids and cousins would all join in and everyone got a share.
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#227117 - 06/29/12 12:46 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Artisan Bread in Five Minutes A Day.

I really want to try that someday. I'm stubborn about some things. Maybe when my old bread machine breaks, I only paid five bucks for it at a thrift store. It's been cranking out two loaves a week for about 4 years now.
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#227118 - 06/29/12 02:00 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Nice thing about bread machines is that you can use them as a very inexpensive small dough mixer. The other alternative is a really big, super-expensive table mixer that can handle a dough hook.

Toss the ingredients in the bread machine, set it for dough, and come back in an hour for perfect dough ready to put in a loaf pan, spread on a pizza pan, wrap around cocktail sausages, etc.

Or just let the machine bake it, too. Only hassle is that the dough hook ends up baked into the bottom of the loaf, and the loaves have a funny shape. But once you figure out how dry your bread flour is, and how active your yeast is, you really can have perfect fresh hot bread every day for just a couple of minutes to measure out the ingredients.

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#227140 - 06/29/12 12:45 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Ponderer, if you use a bread machine, here's a fun recipe for dinner rolls:

1 scant cup hot tap water
Add 1 cold egg to equal 1 cup
1 1/2 tsp salt
2 Tbsp sugar
3Tbsp olive oil
3 cup bread flour
1 scant Tbsp yeast
Measure your cup of water a little bit short and use hot tap water. Add an egg from the fridge to the water. This gets both to the right temp. No need to beat it, the machine will handle all that. Pour it in the machine add the rest of the ingredient in the order listed.
Make dough as usual adding more flour if it's sticky.
when it's done turn the flour out on a well floured breadboard.
Using a Bench Knife cut it in half, half it again and again and again, dredge it with flour if its sticky.
Cut half of the dough into a bunch of little chunks that will roll into about a 1 inch ball.
Have a muffin tin oiled and ready.
roll each piece of dough very quickly into a rough ball and toss them into the muffin tin, 3 to 5 in each section. depending on size. This recipe makes 18 rolls so you'll need three tins that hold six or a twelver and a sixer.
No need to let them rise at all. Just pop 'em in the oven and bake about 25 minutes at 350F til they are golden brown.
Serve right out of the oven.

If you don't have a Bench Knife get one!

They're also great for scooping up spills, or chopped onions from the cutting board. No kitchen should be without one.
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#227154 - 06/29/12 03:29 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I bought some Swai today. Had never heard of it but bought a pound ($3.99) and it appears to be a very basic white fish. Actually looks like Hake. I have no idea what the taste will be but to me just about all white fish tastes the same. I'll just pan fry it with a coating of panko and have some corn and our first garden harvest of spinach and peas.
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#227158 - 06/29/12 03:56 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: keysersoze]
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Schlack~I would love your recipe for those garlic and rosemary rolls! ThumbsUp
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#227194 - 06/29/12 07:25 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: keysersoze]
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bought some Swai today. Had never heard of it but bought a pound ($3.99) and it appears to be a very basic white fish

I felt like Swai was maybe a notch better than Tilapia.
I'd sooner have Cod or Scrod or Halibut but the better fishies aren't really in my budget anymore.
Almost anything pan fried in Panko is good!
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#227207 - 06/29/12 08:58 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I'd sooner have Cod or Scrod or Halibut

Dang-but something just sounds plain wrong with that name. Scrod.
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#227209 - 06/29/12 10:03 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
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something just sounds plain wrong with that name. Scrod.

It's just a small Cod. When it comes to whitefish it's the best of the best.
Flounder is about as high as I can afford to go on the Fish Scale these days.
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#227210 - 06/29/12 10:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Tonight the po' folk at my home went to Fresh 'n Easy (Tesco, UK) and purchased Choice filet to serve grilled over plain risotto. The grilled meat was served with a Gorgonzola compound butter which melted on the meat as it was served.
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#227247 - 06/30/12 02:08 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger

It's just a small Cod. When it comes to whitefish it's the best of the best.
Flounder is about as high as I can afford to go on the Fish Scale these days.

When I was young, fish was the cheapest meat that you could buy.

How is that for an indication of how the oceans are being exploited, fished out and destroyed?


Edited by numan (06/30/12 02:11 PM)
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#227253 - 06/30/12 02:31 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Thinking about fish tomorrow for dinner. Went to the farmer's market this morning: too expensive.

Cod comes frozen. My fish needs to be white, fresh and wild. Therefore, my only choices are halibut, sea bass, or petrale.

Salmon is too full-flavored for me.
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#227261 - 06/30/12 03:04 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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Salmon is too full-flavored for me.

Mmmm... Salmon!! Morning, noon and night! Delish!

If you want to kill its delicious taste, just dribble a little sesame oil over it before serving it.

If you want to worry about fish, you should be thinking about heavy metals, radioactive cesium, and Gulf of Mexico poisonous chemicals!
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#227312 - 06/30/12 11:10 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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I like to grill my salmon , brushing it with peanut oil, a few drops of sesame oil, a little mandarin orange juice, soy sauce, garlic and ginger. I serve it with pineapple fried rice, and grilled baby bok choy. Almond/coconut tfu for dessert! grin
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#227321 - 07/01/12 06:57 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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About 20 (maybe 25 yrs ago?)McDonald's (Golden Arches)exclusively use cod in their fish sandwiches. What changed? Cod was expensive,so they switched to a less expensive white fish.

Years ago as a freshman in college, an erstwhile freshman, who was British, always had tuna subs whenever we (the collective went out on weekends). I asked him one day, why he always orders tuna and don't they have tuna in England? He answered, Of course, but it's a lower class fish. I don't think that I'll ever forget that.

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#227322 - 07/01/12 06:58 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Broiled in butter with garlic.

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#227323 - 07/01/12 07:08 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Put aside that the world is going to end in Dec. sometime because of the Mayan calender. I don't think that it will end, but I don't know anything anyway. Assuming that the world doesn't end (and with 4th approaching), I have a serious and truly meaningful issue that will affect the lives of millions of Americans: What tastes better? A hand-pressed hamburger or a hamburger press? I like hotdogs on the 4th, but a number of guests prefer hamburgers. The eternal question. I prefer dogs with a lot kraut, however, some prefer hamburgers. What do you think? I think that a hamburger press burger tastes better, but I don't know why. Any opinions or preferences, and why? Do you think that a hand pressed and formed burger tastes better than a hamburger pressed one?

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#227324 - 07/01/12 07:27 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Another thing, those store bought tomatoes taste like cardboard and are flavorless. Obviously GM tomatoes for distribution and sales. I understand that. I also understand flavor. Here's why they taste like sh*t.

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#227325 - 07/01/12 08:11 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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We only buy the Costco hothouse "cocktail" tomatoes these days: They are sold in a plastic package but are all still on the vine, and are like very large cherry tomatoes. All in the 1.25" to 1.75" diameter range. They actually taste like homegrown, right off the vine. I think the "completely-tasteless but easy to harvest and pack" tomato variety was perfected long before anybody could do GM. It was just selective breeding, same as practiced at the dawn of agriculture.

As for forming burger patties, I used to hand form them but I read a while back that they come out much better if you form them very gently. If you fry them, then you can make very loose patties just by moving the ground beef around without ever pressing it together to get rid of the voids. I guess it cooks more uniformly when the hot fat can bubble up through the patty. This does work very well when you have to fry or broil them.

For the grill, I do press them together just a bit especially around the circumference, so they don't fall apart. Another trick: Form a patty of uniform thickness, and then press down in the center with your thumb. This prevents them from bulging into spheres as they cook.

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#227345 - 07/01/12 12:33 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I like both hamburgers and hotdogs. I like the Hebrew National all beef dogs, grilled, with some mustard and dill pickle relish. Or as a chili-cheese dog. I like my hamburgers hand-formed. I have the butcher grind a mixture of half round and half sirloin. I mix in a packet of dry Lipton onion soup mix and a bit of Worcestershire sauce, salt, pepper and garlic. we grill them and I put out lettuce(Green leaf), sliced tomatoes(usually from my neighbor's garden), sliced red onion, cheese, mustard(yellow and brown), mayo, ketchup, cheese and dill pickle slices.

But for the 4th this year, we are grilling NY strip steaks, grilled corn on the cob and grilled veggie skewers. Home made lemonade, iced tea and other cold beverages. Lemon meringue pie for dessert. And maybe even homemade strawberry ice cream. I have a lot of fresh strawberries4 lbs) I just bought at the local Farmers' Market for 5 dollars! And I have an electric ice cream maker. I just need to add eggs and cream.... yes, I need to make a trip to the grocery store tomorrow!
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#227353 - 07/01/12 01:00 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Joe Keegan]
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I like hotdogs on the 4th....

I hope you are using European wieners for those hot dogs. · · grin
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#227381 - 07/01/12 02:32 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: numan]
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Ah, my son has also requested that we grill brats wrapped in bacon. So I will add those to the menu.
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#227420 - 07/01/12 09:05 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Dinner out last night! Blackened Sea Bass with a Raspberry Chipotle sauce! To Die For! Just to feckin' die for. OK?
Tonight a fresh loaf of whole wheat bran bread, Stuffed Grape leaves (Dolmathakias) and a pint of Guinness....okay...two pints C:
I like Burgers, I like Dogs. I like damn near everything.
I can't afford those fancy European wieners made from Choice Canadian horsemeat. And don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about numan!
Bacon wrapped deep fried corn dogs are pretty good too Scout!
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#227434 - 07/02/12 12:01 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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Mmmm, bacon-wrapped corn dogs! ThumbsUp
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#227442 - 07/02/12 05:06 AM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Wow, that's some hamburger! I'll try combining sirloin with ground round next time. I like Nathan's hotdogs. Brats as well as sweet Italian sausage are great on the grill. I top with cold salsa.

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#227469 - 07/02/12 12:01 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
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Mmmm, bacon-wrapped corn dogs! ThumbsUp

That's pretty decadent.

Last night, the po' at my house had blanched, then halved and sautéed in eeov and buddah, Brussels sprouts, leftover risotto and thawed lobster tail frozen from Valentine's weekend when they were $5.00/6oz tail.

Only po' people eat lobster tail purchased six month ago - on sale. smile
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#227472 - 07/02/12 12:18 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
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Huh? EVOO?
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#227476 - 07/02/12 12:53 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Greger]
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I mean: evoo blush

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#227725 - 07/04/12 01:30 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: california rick]
Joe Keegan Offline
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Registered: 12/25/05
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This afternoon: Nathan hot dogs, kraut, yellow mustard and relish and/or hamburgers topped with cheddar or Swiss, cold tomato, romaine, onion, jalapenos , and mayo. Boston baked beans, cold potato salad, iced tea/cold beer, and cold watermelon or ice cream (blueberry/strawberry topping)and whipped cream sprinkled with crushed pecans or shaved chocolate or butterscotch. Watch Jaws afterwards, my favorite 4th holiday movie.

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#227727 - 07/04/12 01:42 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Scoutgal]
Ken Condon Offline
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Registered: 06/13/07
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Loc: Eugene, OR
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Mmmm, bacon-wrapped corn dogs!


With deep fried ice cream for desert?
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#227730 - 07/04/12 01:56 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
Joe Keegan Offline
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deep fried ice cream is pretty good. you use cinnamon?

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#227736 - 07/04/12 02:02 PM Re: Wonder what the poor folks are eatin' tonight? [Re: Ken Condon]
Greger Offline
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Registered: 11/24/06
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Loc: Florida

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With deep fried ice cream for desert?

I don't see why not!

The easiest way to make deep fried ice cream is to simply wrap hard frozen balls of ice cream in two slices of white bread with the crusts cut off. squeeze the bread around the ice cream then refreeze.
1. put a pan in the freezer for 2 hours or overnite

2. scoop balls of ice cream into the cold pan and refreeze for an hour or more

3. wrap bread around ice cream, packing it like a snowball
Refreeze for an hour or more

4. fry in very hot oil(375F) until golden

5. Serve with chocolate sauce and whipped cream
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