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#204764 - 12/19/11 12:04 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: Ted Remington]
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Churlpat, Sandy doesn't read what others say here.

She has a mind like a steel trap: Fool with it and it slams shut.
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#204768 - 12/19/11 01:12 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
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Registered: 12/17/11
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The curse of all animal kind: Individual freedom vs. the collective will.

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#204769 - 12/19/11 01:33 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
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David C., you strike the nail upon the flat end. It is a balance we always strive to achieve. The reason that Rand chose to set Atlas Shrugged in an alternative universe is because the real world doesn't work like that.
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#204770 - 12/19/11 01:49 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
Chuck Howard Offline
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As I've stated here before, I prefer Tom Joad to John Galt as a "fictional hero." At least Mr. Joad's "experience" had some basis in reality.

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#204781 - 12/19/11 03:19 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
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#204782 - 12/19/11 03:23 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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Sandy, as much as I once admired you, your constant non-responsiveness to any questions and your continual screeds force me to regard you as something akin to the Moonies who sell candles on the corner, yelling that if Americans would just unify behind Reverend Moon all would be well.

(MOONIES: Followers of Reverend Sun Myung Moon)
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to what we have plus a little more Keynes. Why?"

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#204788 - 12/19/11 03:54 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
David Clark Offline
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Registered: 12/17/11
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I'm an Orwell fan myself. Animal Farm, 1984, now there are a couple of good doses of reality. Or Clockwork Orange was great but I don't recall who wrote it.

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#204790 - 12/19/11 04:12 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: Sandune]
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Originally Posted By: Sandune
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Reader Rant cannot tell the difference between ideal and elite...

I asked you this before, who is Reader Rant?

Originally Posted By: Sandune
You all would have found Rourke guilty...

Who is Rourke? I read some Rand but I don't remember anybody named Rourke. dunce

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#204792 - 12/19/11 04:18 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
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I'm with you, there, David at least those stories were interesting. When I get back to my computer, I am willing to provide a lengthy critique of Rand's "objectivism" with citations but I'm not there now, and it would only be interesting if someone else wants to play along.
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#204794 - 12/19/11 04:27 PM Re: How Ayn Rand Seduced Generations of Young Men [Re: itstarted]
David Clark Offline
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Registered: 12/17/11
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The Fountainhead, I read liked and admired. Atlas Shrugged I never cared for and don't believe I ever finished reading it.

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