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#208384 - 01/12/12 04:20 PM Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada
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Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada
s America's middle class battles for its survival on the Wisconsin barricades - against various Koch Oil surrogates and the corporate toadies at Fox News - fans of enlightenment, democracy and justice can take comfort from a significant victory north of the Wisconsin border. Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom. As a result of that law, Canadians enjoy high quality news coverage, including the kind of foreign affairs and investigative journalism that flourished in this country before Ronald Reagan abolished the "Fairness Doctrine" in 1987.

Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio. Harper's proposal was timed to facilitate the launch of a new right-wing network, "Sun TV News" which Canadians call "Fox News North."


What kind of modern civilized country would pass a law that denies news organizations the right to lie?
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#208409 - 01/12/12 06:11 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom.

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Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio.

Originally Posted By: Ozymanithrax
What kind of modern civilized country would pass a law that denies news organizations the right to lie?

You said it : a modern, civilized country !!

There is plenty of lying in Canadian media -- after all, they get news reports from the USA!!
But Canadians are not as tolerant of it as are the mentally befogged inhabitants of the Brainwashed States of America.
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#208418 - 01/12/12 06:59 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: numan]
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Originally Posted By: numan
...There is plenty of lying in Canadian media ...

...but, it's against the law. Hmm
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#208421 - 01/12/12 07:05 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Originally Posted By: numan
...There is plenty of lying in Canadian media ...

...but, it's against the law. Hmm

Well Numen did write,
Originally Posted By: Numen
There is plenty of lying in Canadian media -- after all, they get news reports from the USA!!
But Canadians are not as tolerant of it as are the mentally befogged inhabitants of the Brainwashed States of America.

So he seems to be pointing a line at secondhand lies whre some talking head just repeats the lie another talking head in the U.S. of A. said.

Canada, unlike the U.S. of A. does seem to have some kind of limiter on the the bull they allow their media to spew.
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#208425 - 01/12/12 07:21 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Obviously, you cannot control all lies.

But you can control the George W. Bush and Goebbel-esque BIG LIES that are provably false, but are repeated so often that the ignorant masses just assume them to be true.
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#208433 - 01/12/12 07:41 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: numan]
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Originally Posted By: numan
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Fox News will not be moving into Canada after all! The reason: Canadian regulators announced last week they would reject efforts by Canada's right-wing Prime Minister, Stephen Harper, to repeal a law that forbids lying on broadcast news.

Canada's Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast ... any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right-wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom.

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Political dialogue in Canada is marked by civility, modesty, honesty, collegiality, and idealism that have pretty much disappeared on the US airwaves. When Stephen Harper moved to abolish the anti-lying provision of the Radio Act, Canadians rose up to oppose him fearing that their tradition of honest non-partisan news would be replaced by the toxic, overtly partisan, biased and dishonest news coverage familiar to American citizens who listen to Fox News and talk radio.

Originally Posted By: Ozymanithrax
What kind of modern civilized country would pass a law that denies news organizations the right to lie?

You said it : a modern, civilized country !!

There is plenty of lying in Canadian media -- after all, they get news reports from the USA!!
But Canadians are not as tolerant of it as are the mentally befogged inhabitants of the Brainwashed States of America.


If American Media just fills their news with lies, then why does Canada repeat it? Doesn't Canadian Media research their news stories(especially those from the USA) before printing or showing them on TV? Especially if the y supposedly know that the US-reported news is full of alleged lies? What kind of honesty and civility is that? Sounds more like lazy stupidity to me.
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#208437 - 01/12/12 07:51 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Sounds more like multi-national corporate monopolies to me.

· · · wink
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#208451 - 01/12/12 08:20 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: numan]
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There is plenty of lying in Canadian media -- after all, they get news reports from the USA!!


What? Canadians are too stupid to write their own news coverage?
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#208452 - 01/12/12 08:20 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Then there's the obvious corollary.......That the content of Fox News doesn't correspond with the lies of Canada's state media ! What else to expect from a government that is retroactively seizing legally purchased firearms because it "made a mistake"; without offering any compensation to its citizens ? One wonders if it would do the same if the subject machinery were motor vehicles ! >Mech

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#208454 - 01/12/12 08:24 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Mechanic]
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Link please Mech. You may be correct but I would like to read about this.
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#208456 - 01/12/12 08:26 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ken Condon]
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There is plenty of lying in Canadian media -- after all, they get news reports from the USA!!

What? Canadians are too stupid to write their own news coverage?

Rather, lacking sufficient control over foreign multi-national media monopolies which have very self-serving agenda.

Now, I wonder who might be responsible for that? · · · wink
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#208463 - 01/12/12 08:55 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: numan]
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Originally Posted By: numan
Originally Posted By: Ken Hill
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There is plenty of lying in Canadian media -- after all, they get news reports from the USA!!

What? Canadians are too stupid to write their own news coverage?

Rather, lacking sufficient control over foreign multi-national media monopolies which have very self-serving agenda.

Now, I wonder who might be responsible for that? · · · wink


If Canada allows that, then they must surely be emulating their US cousins. I guess the more people try to change, they more they are alike. Greed seems to have captured the maple leaf, as well as the bald eagle. wink
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#208469 - 01/12/12 09:12 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Scoutgal

If Canada allows that, then they must surely be emulating their US cousins.

I will agree that those who rule in the Canadian government are as greedy, self-serving, treasonous and corrupt as those in the US government. They are very susceptible to illicit lobbying and bribery by a certain foreign power and by multinational monopolies.

You might as well say that the Iraqis were "emulating the USA" by "permitting" what the US government did to them.
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#208491 - 01/12/12 11:14 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: numan]
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They are very susceptible to illicit lobbying and bribery by a certain foreign power...

Those Chinese have much to answer for nu. Meanwhile, all of this reminds me of some lyrics written by a favo(u)rite Saskatchewan gal-friend of mine.

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And the seasons they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down
We're captive on the carousel of time
We can't return we can only look
Behind from where we came
And go round and round and round
In the circle game '
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#208494 - 01/12/12 11:49 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ken Condon]
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the article was from last March.

according to wiki:

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Fox News Channel is currently offered by Access Communications, Bell TV, Cogeco, Eastlink, Manitoba Telecom Services, Rogers, SaskTel, Shaw Cable, Shaw Direct and Telus TV. A notable exception is Vidéotron, Canada's third largest cable company, which has not added Fox News Channel to its lineup.


Hmm

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#208501 - 01/13/12 01:25 AM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Being deprived of fair and balanced coverage for so long, it is no wonder that Canada has become the poster child for of socialist failure.
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#208988 - 01/15/12 04:13 PM Re: Fox News' Lies Keep Them Out of Canada [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Just give the Neo-Cons time, Ardy, just give them time.

I am sure they can engineer failure, even in Canada.

Just as they have done in the USA. · · · wink


Edited by numan (01/15/12 04:13 PM)
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