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#209233 - 01/17/12 02:49 PM
Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL approval Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper became the latest stakeholder in the Keystone XL debate to cite Iran’s threats to block the Strait of Hormuz as one justification for the U.S. to approve the controversial oil pipeline. Harper told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation yesterday he thinks it’s “pretty obvious what the right decision is, not just from an economic and environmental standpoint but also from an energy-security standpoint.” “When you look at the Iranians threatening to block the Strait of Hormuz, I think that just illustrates how critical it is that supply for the United States be North American,” Harper said. Calgary-based TransCanada Corp.’s pipeline would carry oil sands crude from Alberta through six states to Gulf Coast refineries in Port Arthur and Houston. The Canadian government has long encouraged the United States to approve the pipeline. There goes that terroristic agressor state Canada trying to raise the specter of war to sell oil.
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#209241 - 01/17/12 04:41 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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' Rather, there goes that terrorist aggressor Neo-Con creep, Stephen Harper.
You, in your American innocence, have no idea what an awful man he is. A large percentage of Canadians hate him. The rest of the population are as stupid as American voters.
Many people here curse that pipeline and everything connected with it. If, or rather, when, theare are spills and leaks from it, it will do terrible things to both Canada and the United States.
But since The US is not as blessed with water as is Canada, it will be far more catastrophic to American water-tables.
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#209247 - 01/17/12 05:17 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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Numan, I lived through Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush (not again), Obama, and I'm following the charge of the Neanderthals running for the Republican Nomination.
You have my condolences. In every life a little rain must fall.
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#209273 - 01/17/12 08:21 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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journeyman
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My only question, (of long standing) is why pipeline Canadian crude so far ? We have - and can expand - refinery capacity in the Dakotas ! Hence we can ship "product" from a Dakota terminus to wherever its needed ! IOW, a "non argument" IMO !
Of course the Dakotas are Republican........But that wouldn't influence the "Unbiased Obama Administration" that promised us a new era in government transparency, would it ? >Mech
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#209274 - 01/17/12 08:23 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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If Iran should block the straits, it would be suicide by stupidity.
So much money involved in Keystone, that it may be years before the truth comes out.
Whether Oil or Gas or Wind or Solar, the vested interests will have solid scientific arguments beyond the ken of us mere mortals, no matter how we try to understand the subject.
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#209276 - 01/17/12 08:36 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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I'm thinking Canada should just build a refinery and to hell with the pipeline.
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#209280 - 01/17/12 09:02 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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No mere mortal can understand the physics and chemical mumbo-jumbo for the simple reason that it is nonsense. Liberal, Almighty-denying scio-fascists throw a bunch of craziness at the gullible and get them to believe any kind of idiocy, like CO2 is a pollutant, or anthropogenic global climate change exists, or that there are eviromentally negative impacts of burning coal, or that there is a danger of mercury and sulfur in water, soil or air, or that alternatives exist to fossil fuels, or that fracking can pollute vast aquifers, or that 1,000 mile long oil pipelines have negative impacts even if they don't leak (which, of course, they wouldn't) or that oil leaks are damaging to people and environments, and on and on.
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#209385 - 01/18/12 03:00 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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Breaking News on CNN states that President Obama has rejected the building of the Keystone XL pipeline. It is good to see him stand up to terroristic warnings by the PM of Canada.
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#209398 - 01/18/12 04:13 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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For those of interest look up "The Big Inch" another phoney project for a "staged" war. Is the need as necessary? Seems to me it is.
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#209404 - 01/18/12 04:46 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keyston
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' I'm thinking Canada should just build a refinery and to hell with the pipeline.
Many Canadians have had the same thought, Greger. I suspect that there is American bribery and pressure to have the economic "benefits" of the refining acrue to people in the USA rather than in Canada. Similar rancour revolves around exporting raw timber, rather than processing the wood in Canada.
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#209411 - 01/18/12 05:12 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keyston
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Why did Canada have the Koreans manufacture all that massive equipment that had to be shipped halfway around the world, then cut into smaller pieces to get it across the NW U.S., that was destined for the tar sands?
I don't think the Canadians can build anything!
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#209412 - 01/18/12 05:30 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keyston
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Canada has refineries http://membernet.capp.ca/SHB/Sheet.asp?SectionID=7&SheetID=263So maybe they think they will get more money selling it to someone else to refine.
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#209415 - 01/18/12 05:58 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keyston
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' I am surprised that you have thought so little before posting. Please do a bit of research before posting. At present, there are NO refineries in the isolated region of Northern Alberta where the oil sands are.
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#209597 - 01/19/12 08:10 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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My only question, (of long standing) is why pipeline Canadian crude so far ? We have - and can expand - refinery capacity in the Dakotas ! Hence we can ship "product" from a Dakota terminus to wherever its needed ! IOW, a "non argument" IMO !
Of course the Dakotas are Republican........But that wouldn't influence the "Unbiased Obama Administration" that promised us a new era in government transparency, would it ? >Mech As opposed to Texas, that haven for Democrats, which is the terminus of the pipeline.
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#209599 - 01/19/12 08:32 PM
Re: Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL
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Canadian PM says Iran threat justifies Keystone XL Of course he does, he's a great thinker just as former President GW Bush. In fact, Mr. Harper is a fan or Mr. Bush's policies.
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