Sheriff Arpaio is certifiably insane.

and look, the washington times is the reporting agency. there's credibility for ya.

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Isn't that a requirement for a position of authority in the United States?

LOL - have you read the actual article? Man it's funny. Some plums: So, what was the evidence presented and investigated? A printout of the birth certificate from the internet. "His investigators said the computer file released by the White House appears to have been created on a computer" - um.... it was a computer file. Um, it's a printout from the internet, you idiot! So, who were these "investigators"? Clearly, unbiased outsiders, right? Oh, nevermind.Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery’ This one actually made me LOL: "Sheriff Arpaio said he went into the investigation with an open mind and would have been happy to clear Mr. Obama."

Oh for Pete's sake - Jerome Corsi? Birfer extraordinaire?

dr as in phd to you if you please

my hope is for a conclusive determination ... if it is true then we have one of the largest, most nefarious, and on the highest levels of power conspiracies to have ever existed

if on the other hand it is proven genuine then my hope will be that these characters will lose all credibility for all time and move to the back of the cave where they belong

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Fail!

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sky!

Arpaio is very much an attention whore, probably clinically. You'd think Arizona would be getting sick of this. Many of us are, but we have Tea Bagger governor and those in control of the state legislature are Tea Baggers or at least in tacit support of the TP. Point being, the people voted them into office. Most of those people live in Maricopa County.

Arpaio said today that no county money (I think he said tax payer money) was used to carryout his investigation. That's interesting in that the Tea Party in Surprise, Arpaio said, is the reason he investigated Obama. The Tea Party in Surprise asked him to. How many people represent the TP of Surprise? Ah, 46 people. Yet Arpaio was compelled to respond. Surprise is a part of the county that has complained to the Fed government that Arpaio did not investigate sexual assaults for years. I could look the number up but I'm lazy at the moment. The NW and the SW part of the county have been less than pleased with Arpaio's support for several years. No matter, 46 people ask for Arpaio to investigate the President and he complies! LOL!

Arpaio complies because he felt it was his duty - however - county citizens requested it. But, he emphasized no tax money was used in the investigation. WTF? So a county sheriff investigates a sitting president.

Sky-I found this from the link you linked. Let me say this about that:

Doggy Style

Is this true or is Obama an alien who slipped by the supposedly best security on earth? Stay tuned.

And just what agency or who gave this sheriff authority to investigate anything relaying to the President? I wonder what he would have said if President Obama had started up a criminal investigation on Sheriff Arpaio's hijinks in Arizona?

Reportedly Arpaio was disappointed to discover that the 3 people involved were not Mexicans. Though the dog may have lived and worked in a bar in Ajijic. Needless to say we were all afraid for our wives until this little son a bitch was locked up.

That's a great question darlin'. Arpaio pretty much does what he damn well pleases. Arpaio is still in court for attempting to intimidate county government officials. Eric Holder's office has been investigating Arpaio's office for two years. Arapaio has refused to hand over files requested by the US Attorney General. That too is ongoing. In the meantime, Arpaio is in hot water because his office did not investigate about 600 sexual assaults (not sure about the number). Many, many reported by Hispanic people. One of the reasons Arpaio's office is being investigated is because of Arpaio's alleged discrimination of Hispanics. There appears to be a great deal of fire where that smoke it. Some people believe that Arpaio based on previous behavior is attempting to intimidate the President because the President's Administration is going after Arpaio.

No thank you. Anyone connected with World Nut News Daily isn't worthy of being properly addressed.

Eight month old re-tread? Scary part is Sheriff Joe carries a gun. We had to wait for an eight-month old re-tread?

Join in a reach around?

Eeeeeuuuwwww!

Did you have to ask your kids?!?

Hey look. I have no idea as to the veracity of that link Scout. But it sure was funny- lever the ness.

No, I asked Mr. Scoutgal.

Yes, it was.

If Rep. Issa can't get Holder fired over Fast and Furious, Arpaio ain't gonna get him fired over Obama's 3 millionth birther investigation. But let's be fair to Joe; he's the only thing standing between our freedom and the invasion of the aliens. Saw the last half of "Independence Day" last night and was dumbfounded in noticing how much Randy Quaid looked like Joe as he flew his plane into the belly of the starship!

come on now ... WND is one of the go to sources for Hannity

Looks pretty compelling to me!

We're trying to get Arpaio to move to Massachusetts, Ma. Then you'll laugh.

Mick. This mess is one of the reasons I had to move out of Arizona. When it was discovered that I was on the Board of Compassion and Choices, my mail box was jammed with horrible notes. My only friendly neighbors were Jehovah's Witnesses when their little dog ran across the street and I brought him home. They knew I was an Atheist but I loved their puppy...who knew?

When Napolitano was sent to D.C. I could not stand the thought of Jan Brewer as our Governor. I found her quite shallow when we had to get "end of life" forms from the Secretary of State's office.

My immediate neighbors used to shoot BBs at Kate my lovely lab and when Emma (elderly cat) would join her in the back yard the BBs became lethal. I decided it was time to return home to California.

In my work in live theater, I had made many delightful gay friends. When they visited me in Sun City, one of our best Mexican restaurants would empty out when we walked in. We had one gay couple in Sun City who wanted to join our swim exercise classes and the members complained and the guys moved somewhere else. What does this say for Arizona society?

I was asked to be on the Board of Directors of the Chamber Music Society in Sun City and when one of the members took a look at my website, I was pushed out. This is very representative of Arizona! My kids had bought a condo in Rancho Mirage where they could spend the winters and I flew into Palm Springs and loved the city again. It was Christmas of last year and we drove around and I discovered a mobile home park where my legs could survive without a single step. They bought it for me for Christmas and exactly one year ago I moved in. I have made more friends here than my 12 years in Arizona from Lake Havasu to Sun City.

The park is cleaner than anyplace I have ever lived. Most residents are here only during the winter months and we tend to watch out for their units when they are gone. I have been teaching the grandkids to swim when they visit on weekends. We have a gated community which annoys me when I forget to carry my zapper with me.

On my street here there have been several units for sale and I have already notified some of my old friends in the San Fernando Valley to take a look. The cost of living in the homes in Encino and Woodland Hills are way too expensive for many elderly retired folks like me. A couple of my pals have lost their husbands and would love to move here. It is 55 plus age requirements but we all have loads of grandkids and the attitude is so relaxed and happy that I am completely at home. I have the major citrus trees and offer everyone here to help themselves. In return I get home made lemon bars.

It is my Paradise and although I miss Kate who died a couple of years ago, I still have my cats. I'm too old to train another dog or man so I cuddle in to my books.

Arpiao is a jerk and I leave him in your trusted hands.

The reason Arpaio is in such a lather is because a) he thinks everyone is an alien, and witj a name like Arpaio, he should know, b) he is being investigated by DOJ for civil rights abuses (whatever they are, he wouldn't recofnize a civil right if it was explained to him in words of one syllable), & 3) he is crazy.

Exactly!

Arpaio is an ancient Hopi word loosely translated as "pretentious idiot with a star."

You left out "asshat".

you guys are way too mean to the sheriff

this morning i heard a far right wing radical extremist talk show host extoll the sheriff as a great American and especially for standing up against the dictator Obama ... so you guys must be confused about the old sheriff

Oooo, ooo, 3, I vote 3. Ooo, 3, 3, 3! He's 3, he is batsh*t 3

NEVER MIND!

LOL! Excellent! I love both definitions.

"Old white guy with head up ass."

That's an astute observation logan! Make it, "Sheriff Asshat."

The rule doesn't apply to loco officials.

Actually, you may be right. If so, I nominate myself for a day in the box. To be accompanied by all who agreed with me of course.

As they say, "this play is under review by the officials"

Phil Hoskins as administrator

Well, in that case, I withdraw my post! This guy is the poster child for the need to disparage public officials from time to time.

As one of the administrators, I have to admit that I violated the RR Guidelines, by referring to Sheriff Arpaio in a derogatory manner. I duly regret my actions and apologize for the violation. Please follow suit. Thank you.

Scoutgal

From time to time the practice of pointing out that the Emperor wears no clothes is brought into play as a cornerstone of the time honored right to a free press.

Therefore I find that I am personally at odds with the more concrete aspects of the RR policy against disparaging public officials and request that a second look be taken at this policy, in the hopes of revising it to create that certain amount of "wiggle room" or grey area.

After all, if we cannot point out that the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes, then what's the use of a free press? Of course I am aware that this is a privately owned and operated forum however it advertises itself as one of the foremost and honored vanguards of political discussion and I find it impossible to view the concept of political discussion in a vacuum wherein no rights of a free press exists.

Can I get an Amen?

I think there is a line, fine though it may be, and this discussion has been on both sides of it. Here's where I place my marker: I earlier stated that I think that Sheriff Arpaio is insane. Is that disparagement? It is a statement of opinion, based upon extant facts, and I think is within the guidelines. Saying that he is an "asshat" is where the line is (and I think the line judge would have to call it "in bounds"). Calling him "Sheriff Asshat" I think is clearly over the line.

This is my opinion only, as a poster, and not an official position as Moderator, a member of the moderating staff, nor of Reader Rant as a forum.

There are lots of ways to disparage elected officials without resorting to calling them names. Suggesting that the sheriff's sanity might be at question is not at odds with our guidelines.
We crazy people, however, are a bit touchy about the "C-word", if you get my drift....
At any rate, and to clarify: Elected Officials get the same respect as our fellow posters here. You don't have to be nice.
Just be smart enough to keep it within the guidelines.


That is my official opinion and interpretation of the guidelines regarding the idiots that sometimes get elected.

Greger,
Moderator

Much ado about nothing, don't ya think, Greger? The rule is the "rules" apply to some more than others and the mods get to decide that based on their own prejudices. Same everywhere. Best to not get worked up over it and simply factor it into the privilege of posting here. It is what it is. :-)

Awwww!

Seriously, can we come to an agreement?

Seriously, Man, I feel really, really sorry for you. We are in agreement!

We try to keep things fair and balanced. Sometimes we fail.
Some of us are more fair than others, some of us are unbalanced....

I've noticed. :-)

In fact, it might be time to redesignate RR as an unofficial DNC site. If ma_Republican treated others in the forum like he is treated by the Dems and others in the choir, he would not last a day. Just saying ....

Can we all please get back on topic? Which, for those who have forgotten is "Sheriff Arpaio: Obama birth certificate a ‘forgery' ". Please use the PM function for more personal remarks, and start a new thread for other topics. Thank you for everyone's immediate cooperation.

Scoutgal
Administrator

An interview with Sheriff Arpaio that touches on the Arpaio's forgery accusation and on the possible assassination of Breitbart.
Sheriff Joe Arpaio: I Spoke with Andrew Breitbart Shortly Before he Died

I'm conservative - libertarian conservative to be more specific - and I think birthers are the Right's version of 9/11 Truthers.

And look at their "leaders" - Alan Keyes, Phillip Berg, Orly Taitz, the folks at WingNutDaily...

We're Birthers!

We care about the Constitution and you don't!

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Don't get me wrong. I want to see a Republican president in the White House starting in January!

Good luck with that. But the birthers will be voting right along with you; Alan, Philip, Orly, and the Sheriff want the same thing you do.
That colored Democrat out of their white house.


Oh, and Happy B-Day Ozy!!!!!

I don't care who the Birthers vote for.

I don't care about the color of a man's skin. I do care about the color of his politics.

Welcome to Reader Rant, Golem!

Thanks, Scoutgal.

Welcome Golem:

Golem

I read the Prince Valiant comic strip way back when.

I thought it quite amusing (I am easily amused) because that strip appeared just this past Sunday in our local rag. I do enjoy some of the comics but can’t say as I am a fan of PV- even if the artwork is very good.
But the Golem caught my eye and then low and behold you appear the next day on RR. So the Golem wasn’t disposed of after all and Prince Valiant can't be trusted. Just who can one trust these days?
Just trying to have some fun.

i haven't looked back through the posts but has anyone missed the obvious that every reputable authentication/certification organization of ephemera only works with the original item ... as these characters were using a scan absolutely nothing they say is worth repeating

Does any of that matter? Some wonder why “these people” keep repeating the same mantra about Obama being a (fill in the blank) as if the birthers actually care about the facts or the truth. They don’t and the truth doesn’t matter.
Obama just looks plain wrong to be president. His ethnicity (and name) are just wrong. That is all that matters. His politics might have a smidgen to do with it- but it is highly unlikely there would be such a lather worked up about his presidency if he looked as he was supposed to.
It is as simple and as stupid as that.

Claiming the President as a "birth certificate problem" or is a "secret muslim" is just code for...
The President is a ni...

Wouldn't it be great to see Pres. Obama just call them on it -- no niceties, no bridging the gap -- just a simple "I have tried to accommodate the needs of all Americans, but no matter what I do there are some who will not allow a black man to be President. They will lie, cheat and do everything they can to undo my election and anything I may propose, even if it is the same thing as my predecessor did.

We have a word in our culture for these people -- racists. Now it is time for America to admit the South lost the civil war and our Constitution has ended slavery. Move on people, it is time to get to work on real problems and issues that face us."

It sure would. But those who are birthers, tenthers, haters and deniers will spill more venom and lies through the likes of Rush, the TP, control freaks and the GOP.

Hold it right there. I'm sure that there are some racists out there. That's always the case. But President Obama is considered vulnerable to this charge because some people think he was born outside of the US. And the fact that if so, one of his parents was a US citizen, is unimportant.

Personally, I think Obama qualifies as a legitimate citizen, but as a president, he's just a puppet of his handlers.

Oopsie! Can't write that. Elected officials are to respected here at Reader Rant. It's in the guidelines which you agreed to...

Like GW Bush wasn't a puppet of Mr. Cheney and Reagan wasn't a puppet of ex-CIA Chief GHW Bush.

Has anyone been following all the hoopla regarding today's case in which someone who is supposedly "Obama's attorney" has "admitted that the birth certificate is a forgery"?

Google Search: "It's official! Obama is an illegal president!"

All those links are a month or more old. Guess that frog didn't hunt. I didn't see any 'Obama's lawyer' stuff.

It is not unimportant.

The law, which I have quoted here repeatedly and extensively, says that a person born outside the United States is a natural-born citizen of the US if one of his or her parents IS a natural-born citizen and meets certain other criteria, all of which were met.

Let me repeat myself:

There is a statute that says Obama is a natural-born citizen even if he was born outside the United States.

See 8 USC 1401, which reads in pertinent part:



EVEN IF Obama was born in Kenya, his mother was a citizen and she resided in the US for at least five years before Obama's birth, and at least two of those years were after she turned 14 years of age.

From the wiki article on Anne Dunham, Obama's natural mother:

Since Dunahm was born in 1942, you can see that she was a resident in Washington state for just about four years after her 14th birthday. And those four years would be two more than the two years required in the statute quoted above.

And if there is anyone out there who disputes that Dunham was not really Obama's mother, you need to speak now or forever hold your peace.

Really, folks, MOVE ON, there is nothing to see here. NOTHING!

Can’t Blackwater get to the bottom of this?

A Prince of a company

You didn't understand my post. But that's not your fault. It's mine. I was unclear.

Let me now say what I should have said:

And the fact that if so, one of his parents was a US citizen, is unimportant to them.

I think Obama is a legitimate natural born citizen.

I am not a conspiracy nut.

This is heinous and despicable. You are obviously not trying to prove that the President is illigitimate. What kind of a backwards patriot are you?!

Obama is a legitimate natural born citizen. If he is to be removed from office it must be done via the ballot box.

And no, I'm not one of those "Where is Lee Harvey Oswald now that we really need him?" types. (that was a slogan of President Lyndon Baines Johnson's far leftist enemies back in the late sixties, BTW)

Actually, in law Obama is almost certainly illegitimate, since his father entered into a bigamous marriage with Anne Dunham. But he is still a natural-born citizen of the US. Our President is a real bastard!

I would take the issue more seriously if Romney will make it a central issue in his campaign....


However, I would hazard a guess that Romney give more credibility the the Republican governor of Hawaii who actually has access to the original documents.... and that he gives less credibility to a sheriff in Arizona who has no access to original documents.

Romney has no room to talk - his father was born in Mexico, for Pete's sake.

George Romney was a technically a natural born citizen for the same reason that Obama is a technically a natural born citizen - assuming he was not born in the US.

BTW, I do think Obama was born in Hawaii.

That was mighty bigga him.

Bigamy -- one wife too many.

Monomgamy -- See bigamy.

Ambrose Bierce.