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#214871 - 03/03/12 11:54 AM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#214907 - 03/03/12 06:35 PM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Dear Ann in this case might not be too far off base:

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All living organisms evolved and exist in a sea of ionizing radiation, much of which is internal. It is a general belief that low doses of ionizing radiation produce detrimental effects proportional to the effects produced by high-level radiation. Over the past decades, however, some pioneer scientists reported that low-dose ionizing radiation is not only a harmless agent but often has a beneficial or hormetic effect. That is, low-level ionizing radiation may be an essential trace energy for life, analogous to essential trace elements. It has been even suggested that about one third of all cancer deaths are preventable by increasing our low dose radiation.

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The Japanese for years have used radioactive hot water spas (they contain radium) for what they believed to be its healing powers.

Also on your linked top map Joe I saw all the little dots floating around but curiously there were none near Japan. Japan was clear as could be. How could/did that happen?
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#214924 - 03/03/12 08:10 PM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#215921 - 03/11/12 01:18 PM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#215983 - 03/12/12 12:38 AM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Ozymanithrax]
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Curious !

Most technical reports I've read to date note the "core meltdowns" were completely contained ! That is all of the fissile material - sans what was lost to venting - was been contained within the reactors and/or the "containment structures" ; as per design ! So where did all the "contaminants come from ?

I suspect the "accident" occurred before the tsunami arrived ! The quake shook hell out of the spent fuel pools sited at the top of the reactor structures, slopping water overboard, exposing the tops of fuel bundles. Lacking the moderating/cooling effects of the pool, the bundles overheated causing the zirconium cladding to oxidize until the "fuel pellets" contained within the rods were exposed and began to oxidize. It was at this point serious long-term contaminants began to enter the local environment !

"Fixing" the problem - ISFAR of the effected reactors isn't a major issue. Rehabing the surrounding areas is another issue ! But of greater concern is the geo-political consequences of this accident. Japan needs nuclear power to fuel its economy.
Driving it back to a reliance upon fossil fuels is to recreate the scenario leading up to the Pearl Harbour debacle ! >Mech

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#215989 - 03/12/12 01:44 AM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Mechanic]
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Mech: Japan needs nuclear power to fuel its economy.
Driving it back to a reliance upon fossil fuels is to recreate the scenario leading up to the Pearl Harbour debacle ! >Mech

And that-it seems-is what they are planning to do. Although I don’t see Japan starting another war over resources. Hopefully.
But one way or another they need and will use massive amounts of electrical power to fuel their economic and domestic wants, and they will get it one way or another. Coal and NG from the US and elsewhere and/or nuclear. “Green” energy will help somewhat but not for the mega gigawatts they require.
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#216001 - 03/12/12 11:24 AM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Mechanic]
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The Dangerous Myths of Fukushima
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Where did the radioactive particles and gases go? Officials from national meteorological agencies in countries like France and Austria followed the plume, and made colorful maps available on the internet. Within six days of the meltdowns, the plume had reached the U.S., and within 18 days, it had circled the Northern Hemisphere.

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Finally, how many people were harmed by Fukushima in the short term? Official studies have chipped away at the oft-repeated claim that nobody died from Fukushima. Last month brought the news that 573 deaths in the area near the stricken reactors were certified by coroners as related to the nuclear crisis, with dozens more deaths to be reviewed. Another survey showed that births near Fukushima declined 25% in the three months following the meltdowns. One physician speculated that many women chose to deliver away from Fukushima, but an increase in stillbirths remains as a potential factor. In British Columbia, the number of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome deaths was 10 in the first three months after Fukushima, up from just one a year before.

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#216002 - 03/12/12 11:27 AM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Joe Keegan]
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#216051 - 03/12/12 11:38 PM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Ken Condon]
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I take it then you're in the "wishing will make it so" camp regarding Japan's energy alternatives, KH ! OTOH, here's a ripe opportunity for the "green energy revolution" proponents to demonstrate an industrial economy can thrive on "renewables" !! >Mech

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#219235 - 04/07/12 01:03 PM Re: Fukushima 'Full Meltdown' Made Official [Re: Joe Keegan]
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