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#217571 - 03/23/12 03:41 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: issodhos]
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Originally Posted By: issodhos
I also wrote, "But, you do make a good point in suggesting that more facts are needed before the fellow is hung out to dry by popular opinion."

I agree with you, Issodhos. My gut reaction is to want to throw Zimmermann over a cliff into a sea of excrement, but my intellectual drive to avoid a "rush to judgment" (because that velocity is so quintessentially American?) is stronger.

First, to the best of our ability, we should gather all the facts -- then judge. Moreover, because of all the emotional muddle this case has generated, it may, in fact, prevent a proper trial and permit the perpetrator to avoid just punishment.
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#217572 - 03/23/12 03:47 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Scoutgal

There is now a special prosecutor appointed by Gov. Rick Scott of Florida.

UH-OH !!

That is usually the infallible sign that truth is going to be covered up.
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#217579 - 03/23/12 05:42 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Iss, I'm going to ask you nicely to withdraw your personal and completely unsupported attack in the thread above.

I don't know what the hell you're talking about, NW. The only posting I have made that referenced you was one in which I gave you a tip-of-the-hat for seeking to find out more about what happened.
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#217580 - 03/23/12 05:52 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: issodhos]
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My apologies, Issodhos, I read the statement
Originally Posted By: Issodhos
I also wrote, "But, you do make a good point in suggesting that more facts are needed before the fellow is hung out to dry by popular opinion." by the way, If you look at his posts above, NW seems to be doing just that. coffee
Issodhos
as that I was hanging him out to dry, not that I was searching out more info. I sincerely regret my outburst. I've been too quick to temper of late, and that is not like me.
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#217582 - 03/23/12 06:08 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: logtroll]
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LT, I wonder why there isn't a thread here regarding the mayhem - 10 dead, 46 wounded - in "SYG-Free" Chicago last week ? Where's the MSM "'blitz" on the Windy City wars ? Why isn't the President commenting on some possible "sons" there ?

Instead we have the makings of another Ox-Bow Incident fueled by the rantings of race-baiting opportunistic shysters, the usual acronymic conglomeration of anti gun orgs - all of which, BTW, have apparently declined to respond to questions from conservative members of the firearms community - compounded by the knee-jerk reactions of the lame stream media. Even our President (apparently having leaned nothing from the Brooks incident ) has weighed in with his patented inane commentary !

All of this pretty much guarantees the shooter can't be tried anywhere ! And perhaps that is the "objective" ! An administration teetering on the brink having its chief LEO being indicted for contempt, (with possible criminal proceedings for key players across the gamut of enforcement agencies ) mist be in desperate need of a diversion . Even better one involving the possible misuse of a firearm. Now only if the Oval Office/MSM/Hoplophobes were as outraged over some 300 Mexican national's deaths ! >Mech

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#217586 - 03/23/12 06:19 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: Mechanic
LT, I wonder why there isn't a thread here regarding the mayhem - 10 dead, 46 wounded - in "SYG-Free" Chicago last week ? Where's the MSM "'blitz" on the Windy City wars ? Why isn't the President commenting on some possible "sons" there ?

Instead we have the makings of another Ox-Bow Incident fueled by the rantings of race-baiting opportunistic shysters, the usual acronymic conglomeration of anti gun orgs - all of which, BTW, have apparently declined to respond to questions from conservative members of the firearms community - compounded by the knee-jerk reactions of the lame stream media. Even our President (apparently having leaned nothing from the Brooks incident ) has weighed in with his patented inane commentary !

All of this pretty much guarantees the shooter can't be tried anywhere ! And perhaps that is the "objective" ! An administration teetering on the brink having its chief LEO being indicted for contempt, (with possible criminal proceedings for key players across the gamut of enforcement agencies ) mist be in desperate need of a diversion . Even better one involving the possible misuse of a firearm. Now only if the Oval Office/MSM/Hoplophobes were as outraged over some 300 Mexican national's deaths ! >Mech

Went right over my head. Are you posting in Ukrainian and then having the computer translate into English? Hmm
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#217594 - 03/23/12 07:03 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: Mechanic]
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Originally Posted By: Mechanic
Hoplophobes ...

Good ol' Cooper. I do miss his "corner". :-)
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#217600 - 03/23/12 07:42 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: Mechanic]
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#217610 - 03/23/12 09:12 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
Originally Posted By: Mechanic
LT, I wonder why there isn't a thread here regarding the mayhem - 10 dead, 46 wounded - in "SYG-Free" Chicago last week ? Where's the MSM "'blitz" on the Windy City wars ? Why isn't the President commenting on some possible "sons" there ?

Instead we have the makings of another Ox-Bow Incident fueled by the rantings of race-baiting opportunistic shysters, the usual acronymic conglomeration of anti gun orgs - all of which, BTW, have apparently declined to respond to questions from conservative members of the firearms community - compounded by the knee-jerk reactions of the lame stream media. Even our President (apparently having leaned nothing from the Brooks incident ) has weighed in with his patented inane commentary !

All of this pretty much guarantees the shooter can't be tried anywhere ! And perhaps that is the "objective" ! An administration teetering on the brink having its chief LEO being indicted for contempt, (with possible criminal proceedings for key players across the gamut of enforcement agencies ) mist be in desperate need of a diversion . Even better one involving the possible misuse of a firearm. Now only if the Oval Office/MSM/Hoplophobes were as outraged over some 300 Mexican national's deaths ! >Mech

Went right over my head. Are you posting in Ukrainian and then having the computer translate into English? Hmm
thank you. i was sensing gibberish as well. typically the fall for one who has no real arguement to stand on.
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#217612 - 03/23/12 09:18 PM Re: NRA tests a pet theory [Re: logtroll]
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I think, LT, going "over" your head implies a quality that isn't readily apparent. Talking past, nonsequiturial, perhaps. Over? Don't think so.
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