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#226951 - 06/27/12 10:42 PM The Truth About Fast and Furious
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From that bastion of socialist thinking, Fortune Magazine, comes this investigative report that debunks the lie that has become "fact" regarding Fast and Furious.

Link to article

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#226954 - 06/27/12 11:27 PM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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Arizona, the state ranked by the gun-control advocacy group Legal Community Against Violence as having the nation's "weakest gun violence prevention laws." Just 200 miles from Mexico, which prohibits gun sales, the Phoenix area is home to 853 federally licensed firearms dealers. Billboards advertise volume discounts for multiple purchases.


Hrrrrrm. This is a side of things that I haven't really heard before now.
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#226962 - 06/28/12 01:39 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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nice catch

unfortunately the conspiratorial nuts will only believe the sippy site as purveyors of truth

as noted through out article Issa et al assume at every opportunity whatever they think will support their preconceived conclusion

i suppose the only redeeming feature of this affair would be (if all evidence continues to stand up under scrutiny) when and if Issa issues report and exposes their investigation as a joke when compared with DoJ IG's report
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#226965 - 06/28/12 01:53 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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Let's say that Issa issues a report and Congress votes along party lines to have the DoJ investigate...the DoJ.

I'm sure it will be yet hailed as yet another 'victory,' ala Jan Brewer, for the Republican Representatives of Congress.
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#226974 - 06/28/12 04:22 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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Originally Posted By: Chuck Howard
From that bastion of socialist thinking, Fortune Magazine, comes this investigative report that debunks the lie that has become "fact" regarding Fast and Furious.
Chuck, you are absolutely no fun. That article was cogent, non-ideological, well-referenced. What is a conspiracy nut to make of it? IT'S ALL LIBERAL BIAS!!!
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#226976 - 06/28/12 04:44 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Let's say that Issa issues a report and Congress votes along party lines to have the DoJ investigate...the DoJ.

I'm sure it will be yet hailed as yet another 'victory,' ala Jan Brewer, for the Republican Representatives of Congress.

Unless they send the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House to arrest him. I really doubt they would do that, of course, but that could be done, in theory.
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#226982 - 06/28/12 05:30 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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That would be the stupidest stunt ever pulled as the Republicans ain't got nuthin' in this supposed brouhaha.
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#226984 - 06/28/12 05:41 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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The mainstream press needs to call Rep. Issa out on this. There's one simple question: Do you think the ATF should have seized all of those guns, even though federal prosecutors told them they did not have a case for seizure?

I know this seems like a "When did you stop beating your wife?" question, but Issa is implying the ATF is responsible for the death of a US Border Patrol officer, because they refused to seize guns, WHILE AT THE VERY SAME TIME claiming that the ATF seizing guns is a violation of the 2nd Amendment and would lead to the downfall of the Republic!

Let's get a straight answer from this weasel: Does he favor gun seizure or not?

(I use the term of endearment "weasel" to refer to the Daryl Issa that ran my friend's alarm company into bankruptcy by stealing all the IP and customer lists after being hired as President, so he could start his own competing company, not the Honorable Representative from California who's office we must respect.)

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#226988 - 06/28/12 05:58 AM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Ain’t it funny? Truth seeking. And “they" want the truth. They want it as long as it fits their vision of whatever that vision might be--as in everything in life.

There is truth out there- although humans are unable (at this time) to grasp it. Methinks they never will be--unless it corresponds with the tenants of their tribe. If one seeks truth in life--get past tribalism.

My gawd that last sentence was funny.
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#227185 - 06/29/12 09:45 PM Re: The Truth About Fast and Furious [Re: Chuck Howard]
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Today's Huff Post featured a picture of Eric Holder shaking hands with Darrell Issa.



Fortunately for Ranters, I was able to get my hands on an UNEDITED version of the photo:

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