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#227533 - 07/02/12 11:06 PM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: Chuck Howard]
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He who doesn't advertise dies. If the GOP zeitgeist for the last 35 years has been that our government is incompetent to do anything except where it concerns killing other nationalities then I think it's safe to assume that any challenge to that notion will have to be met with swift and hard retaliation. Let's put aside rationalism and pragmatism. Those two animals have been taken out behind the political barn and shot quite awhile ago.


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#227538 - 07/02/12 11:30 PM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: chunkstyle]
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Democrats have stiffened their vestigal spines ever so slightly in dealing with the Alpha Republican attack dogs. Common sense may yet win out. If not then demographics will eventually win out because conservatives whether Neo or Paleo will never change their spots or stripes or whatever it is that stubborn fools wont change even to save their ratty hides.
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#227547 - 07/03/12 01:02 AM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: Greger]
olyve Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Over 50 provisions of the ACA have already gone into effect.
Lots more are coming. It's not necessary for dumbasses like me to read the bill and understand it. Others have done that for me and explained it.
Interactive Timeline Explains It All

Thank you ever so much, Greger. I wish some (most of Americans) would read some of the links just posted here in this thread.
It is beyond belief the lack of understanding.
What's not to understand? It's all over the internet. It's here. It's everywhere.

Health Reform Quiz- Kaiser
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#227548 - 07/03/12 01:05 AM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: olyve]
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Originally Posted By: olyve
What's not to understand? It's all over the internet. It's here. It's everywhere.

There are some who don't want to know - it will blow their talking point memo meme if they do.
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#227554 - 07/03/12 01:50 AM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: Chuck Howard]
NW Ponderer Offline
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Wow - I got all 10 questions right. I guess I am an expert.
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#227568 - 07/03/12 04:23 AM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: Chuck Howard]
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#227575 - 07/03/12 12:54 PM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: NW Ponderer]
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anyone who can spell ACA as "ACA" and not as "Obamacare" is an expert
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#227576 - 07/03/12 12:59 PM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: NW Ponderer]
rporter314 Offline
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i also better than 99.6% of population
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#227581 - 07/03/12 01:43 PM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: Chuck Howard]
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another of those provisions of the ACA comes due to day, and it is a bobm. Medical Loss Ration
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The Bomb Buried In Obamacare Explodes Today-Hallelujah!
That would be the provision of the law, called the medical loss ratio, that requires health insurance companies to spend 80% of the consumers’ premium dollars they collect—85% for large group insurers—on actual medical care rather than overhead, marketing expenses and profit. Failure on the part of insurers to meet this requirement will result in the insurers having to send their customers a rebate check representing the amount in which they underspend on actual medical care.

This is the true ‘bomb’ contained in Obamacare and the one item that will have more impact on the future of how medical care is paid for in this country than anything we’ve seen in quite some time. Indeed, it is this aspect of the law that represents the true ‘death panel’ found in Obamacare—but not one that is going to lead to the death of American consumers. Rather, the medical loss ratio will, ultimately, lead to the death of large parts of the private, for-profit health insurance industry.

Imagine, limiting the profit a priate corpoartion can make ripping consumers off for the benefit of CEO's and investors.
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#227585 - 07/03/12 02:30 PM Re: The ACA is Constitutional!!! [Re: Chuck Howard]
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I imagine when thousands millions of people get refund checks in the mail.... between now and August 1st, because their insurance carrier overcharged them for health insurance under the new standard. That is part of the reason that I think the law will be perceived as more popular. I think an ad campaign featuring people who got checks in the mail is in order. Millions will receive refund checks from health insurance companies.

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Almost a third of people who bought their own insurance last year will get refunds averaging $127 under a provision of the new health care law, according to a new analysis of state data from the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonprofit research group.
Insurance Refund: The Check Might Be in the Mail
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