Current Topics
Tesla Motors Dealing as States Play Factory Poker
by pondering_it_all
1 second ago
Just HALF of women can locate the vagina on a diagram of the female reproductive
by Golem
18 minutes 14 seconds ago
Rams cut Michael Sam, first openly gay player drafted
by Scoutgal
22 minutes 58 seconds ago
It's no longer safe to recline your airplane seat
by Scoutgal
23 minutes 51 seconds ago
New York driver chains neck to pole, hits gas pedal, gets decapitated
by logtroll
27 minutes 12 seconds ago
Giant Millipedes Intercepted at San Francisco International Airport
by Scoutgal
29 minutes 31 seconds ago
Round Table For Week Of August 31st-September 6th, 2014
by Scoutgal
30 minutes 59 seconds ago
Why aren't atheists allowed in Congress?
by logtroll
39 minutes 51 seconds ago
Cop cam: Ferguson police to wear body cameras
by Scoutgal
Today at 02:11 PM
Israel appropriates massive tract of West Bank land
by Scoutgal
Today at 02:06 PM
Inside Job
by Scoutgal
Today at 02:03 PM
NFL Player Got Tattoo On His Face To Keep Himself From Ever Getting A Normal Job
by Scoutgal
Today at 02:01 PM
Miscellaneous humor thread
by Golem
Today at 01:26 PM
My Muslim religion has problems that need fixing
by Jeffery J. Haas
Today at 04:15 AM
History's 'Houdini': What the Critics Are Saying
by Golem
Yesterday at 02:55 PM
Forum Stats
6003 Members
55 Forums
14307 Topics
247212 Posts

Max Online: 282 @ 05/29/08 01:08 AM
Google Adsense
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#231110 - 07/27/12 07:07 PM SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on?
california rick Offline
Member
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 05/09/05
Posts: 36072
Loc: Bay Area, California
...by that I mean: Is the CIA a conservative 'agency' or a progressive 'agency'?

If they overthrow governments, isn't that conservative?

What about drug sales? Isn't the progressive?

...but to overthrow governments selling drugs to buy arms, that would mean they are conservative, right?

If Geithner's dad and Obama's mom 'worked' for 'The Agency' - would that then explain Tim Geithner's positive conservative/big business gestures towards Wall Street and Obama's right-leaning moves such as NDAA, assassination on demand, drone attacks, etc?
_________________________
Contrarian, extraordinaire



Top
#231118 - 07/27/12 08:08 PM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: california rick]
Schlack Offline
veteran

Registered: 07/22/04
Posts: 9551
Loc: Ireland
the CIA is on the CIAs side


Edited by Schlack (07/27/12 08:08 PM)
_________________________
"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
(Philip K.Dick)


Top
#231143 - 07/27/12 11:28 PM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: Schlack]
Greger Offline
veteran

Registered: 11/24/06
Posts: 11848
Loc: Florida
I don't think the CIA is a partisan organization. They collect intelligence and do the bidding of whatever administration is in power.
_________________________
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."— Oscar Wilde

Top
#231154 - 07/28/12 06:37 AM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: Greger]
numan Offline
veteran

Registered: 08/06/08
Posts: 10853
Loc: What! Me Worry?
'
Originally Posted By: Greger

I don't think the CIA is a partisan organization. They collect intelligence and do the bidding of whatever administration is in power.

Or does whatever administration is in power do the bidding of the CIA? · · wink
_________________________
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools -- Herbert Spencer

Top
#231191 - 07/28/12 12:24 PM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: california rick]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
veteran

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 10491
Loc: Downey, California
I think I agree with Numan on this one...it's the administrations doing the bidding of the CIA, and they BETTER HAD or else the CIA might make a few moves to drastically shorten the lives of any who think otherwise.

And such is typical of several of the world's large industrialized nations, it would seem, past and present. What WE call the CIA has many names in other parts of the world, innit true that?
_________________________
"Our options for change range from basically what we have plus a little more Hayek,
to what we have plus a little more Keynes. Why?"

---Benjamin Bratton

Top
#231268 - 07/28/12 11:21 PM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: california rick]
Ozymanithrax Offline
member

Registered: 04/11/11
Posts: 1343
Loc: California
The CIA is the primary and most important source of information on "what the world is really like." Being the most important source, they are in a position where whatever information the provide becomes "sacred text" and must be obeyed. As a beaurcratic organizaiton, they have a quasi-life of their own, and will do whatever it takes to perpetuate their survival.

Though not partisan, their leadership has always tended to be on the conservaive side.
_________________________
“If you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinskey

Top
#231271 - 07/28/12 11:51 PM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: Ozymanithrax]
numan Offline
veteran

Registered: 08/06/08
Posts: 10853
Loc: What! Me Worry?
'
Originally Posted By: Ozymanithrax

The CIA is the primary and most important source of information on "what the world is really like."

Which they carefully hide and then lie about?
_________________________
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools -- Herbert Spencer

Top
#231273 - 07/29/12 12:59 AM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: numan]
Ozymanithrax Offline
member

Registered: 04/11/11
Posts: 1343
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: numan
'
Originally Posted By: Ozymanithrax

The CIA is the primary and most important source of information on "what the world is really like."

Which they carefully hide and then lie about?

Their information is their power, within the U.S. Power Structure. They do not lighlty share that power or give it away.

They are a willing tool of U.S. foreign policy.

They are on the side of the U.S.A., as the define it.
_________________________
“If you think you've got an inside track to absolute truth, you become doctrinaire, humorless and intellectually constipated." Saul Alinskey

Top
#231277 - 07/29/12 01:40 AM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: Ozymanithrax]
numan Offline
veteran

Registered: 08/06/08
Posts: 10853
Loc: What! Me Worry?
'
Originally Posted By: Ozymanithrax

They are on the side of the U.S.A., as they define it.

U.S.A. = C.I.A. ?
_________________________
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools -- Herbert Spencer

Top
#231359 - 07/29/12 07:11 PM Re: SERIOUS QUESTION: Whose side is CIA on? [Re: california rick]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
veteran

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 10491
Loc: Downey, California
As much as U.S.S.R. = K.G.B.
_________________________
"Our options for change range from basically what we have plus a little more Hayek,
to what we have plus a little more Keynes. Why?"

---Benjamin Bratton

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >

Who's Online
2 registered (rporter314, 1 invisible), 18 Guests and 4 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
xiawei, Marzman, kyleyoung8, Retread, solafeian
6003 Registered Users
A2