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#233614 - 08/16/12 09:01 PM MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati
issodhos Offline
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...President Obama should “take [his] campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago.” Co-host Touré saw what he believes to be explicit racial connotations beneath what Romney was saying, calling it the “niggerization” of the campaign.

“That really bothered me,” he said. “You notice he said anger twice. He’s really trying to use racial coding and access some really deep stereotypes about the angry black man. This is part of the playbook against Obama, the ‘otherization,’ he’s not like us.”
LINK

As I wrote last year, when they started cranking up the ol' play book, I suspected Dems would increasingly resort to playing the race card in this election season -- because it has worked so well for them over the years -- only to find that folks are no longer buying what they are peddling. I suspect they are too hidebound to realize it ain't working and will go "all in" with the whole deck. Should become increasingly entertaining to watch the dynamics of the two wings of the Party demonstrating their utterly corrupt venality. :-)
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#233621 - 08/16/12 09:29 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: issodhos]
rporter314 Offline
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cranking up the ol' play book

well i see you didn't waste any time with your lame playbook

i foresee you increasingly resorting to use of universalization of the particular to foment disruptive discussions for your personal amusement ... i don't know who toure is but he doesn;t speak for the democratic party and certainly not for me
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#233652 - 08/17/12 08:20 AM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: issodhos]
keysersoze Offline
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I do see the Dems putting a bit more emphasis on the "E" word in this round (elitist). The Repbubs have continued their focus on the "S" word (socialist).

Either way at this juncture I have a wonderful tomato harvest to be picked. So I will thus use the "P" word (picked).


Edited by keysersoze (08/17/12 08:21 AM)
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#233660 - 08/17/12 10:21 AM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: rporter314]
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Toure is a new face at MSNBC. He is outspoken and an African American which had be a dangerous combination even at MSNBC.

He is another voice added to the new programming of turning the one hour schedule into multiple hosts. Most news programs have a single host who reads his own opinions with an occasional guest to add debate. For most of the afternoon the hosts are presented in 4 or more hosts with 4 or more opinions. The Network has lost many hosts due to irate viewers of have an opposite opinion and the group presentations is working much better.

They all are striving for the popularity of Morning Joe. They often are better not having to deal with the sarcastic comedy voice of Joe who erases any possible serious debate. He searches for the laugh over any content of good reporting. The program improves when Joe is gone. Mika is a dedicated Liberal and makes to excuses for her point of view. I seldom agree with her words but she is polite to the guests. She adds the class to the show that Joe keeps trying to shout down.
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#233718 - 08/17/12 07:33 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: issodhos]
Spag-hetti Offline
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Quote:
Issodhos quoted:
...President Obama should “take [his] campaign of division and anger and hate back to Chicago.” Co-host Touré saw what he believes to be explicit racial connotations beneath what Romney was saying, calling it the “niggerization” of the campaign.

“That really bothered me,” he said. “You notice he said anger twice. He’s really trying to use racial coding and access some really deep stereotypes about the angry black man. This is part of the playbook against Obama, the ‘otherization,’ he’s not like us.”


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Issodhos said:
As I wrote last year, when they started cranking up the ol' play book, I suspected Dems would increasingly resort to playing the race card


When I first read this, I was a little concerned about Toure's counting skills. I traced the link to a link and caught more of Romney's remarks and found the other "anger."

I will certainly agree that this is not the strongest example of ... "race baiting" is too strong ... maybe, "race reminding" that I've seen since Obama was elected. Maybe Toure is just a bit sensitive because of a pattern of racially charged speech by a bunch of white guys. Not direct statements, just reminders that Obama is, after all, black.

But let's consider the phrase, "Play the race card". That phrase is often used to delegitimize honest claims of racial injustice. It is glib and dismissive. When I hear it, my ears prick up because I suspect that the speaker is about to make a racist comment to which I might be compelled to respond.


Edited by Spag-hetti (08/17/12 09:58 PM)
Edit Reason: vowel consternation
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#233735 - 08/17/12 09:27 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: issodhos]
issodhos Offline
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Oh my , but Dems are cranking up the race card to an almost daily basis, now.
Quote:
About Obama, he told POLITICO: “In many ways — especially for progressives — [Obama] is too white for them. He plays golf, he’s too cozy with bankers. But when it comes to knowing how to fight, he’s black” — referring to the tough campaign Obama is running against the Republicans.


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#233738 - 08/17/12 09:46 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: issodhos]
Greger Offline
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We can always count on you to bring up the race issue Issodhos.
Is this somehow different from "playing the race card"?
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#233744 - 08/17/12 10:08 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: Greger]
issodhos Offline
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Originally Posted By: Greger

We can always count on you to bring up the race issue Issodhos.
Is this somehow different from "playing the race card"?

Oh, goodness, Greger, you know that tactic isn't going to work on me. This election is being saturated with race hustling from all the usual Dem and 'progressive' suspects -- and it is going to get a lot worse before it is over. So, let's not do the political correctness schtick -- it will just encourage others to do so. nono gobsmacked
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#233750 - 08/17/12 11:10 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: issodhos]
Spag-hetti Offline
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Issodhos said:
This election is being saturated with race hustling from all the usual Dem and 'progressive' suspects -- and it is going to get a lot worse before it is over. So, let's not do the political correctness schtick -- it will just encourage others to do so


I really like a lively debate. And in debate, I believe that a debater must rebut the other side in addition to putting forth its own arguments. I could be wrong.

But my point is ... how can I rebut your proposition when I don't know what the heck it is? My shortcoming, I know.

Deconstructing your statement, you seem to be proposing that since the election is being saturated with 'whatever,' we shouldn't be politically correct because others might do it too, and then (I guess) we'd all be polite and nauseating and stuff.

Since I can't rebut your non sequitur, let me just ask this question ...

race hustling? From "Dem and 'progressive' suspects"?

REALLY?

Which party is trying to capitalize on "race"?


Edited by Spag-hetti (08/17/12 11:31 PM)
Edit Reason: punctuation and inconsonance
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#233758 - 08/17/12 11:33 PM Re: MSNBC’s Touré: Romney Engaging In The ‘N.....izati [Re: Spag-hetti]
logtroll Offline
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Originally Posted By: Spag-hetti
...Deconstructing your statement, you seem to be proposing...

Oh, my, Spag! I fear that you are falling into He Who Shall Never Make A Point's trap. Your assumption about what the point is will always be wrong, and it will now be your fault for making it.

Do you know the old children's story about the tarbaby? Some will say that is a racist story, but I once had a job maintaining a couple of acres of old glass greenhouses where the glass was laid shingle-style bedded in tar, and I learned the truth of the tarbaby. I can assure you that it is impossible to handle tar without it getting smeared in the most unlikely places, and one cannot avoid getting smeared.

You are attempting to debate the tarbaby...
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