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#244947 - 12/01/12 12:48 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: Ezekiel]
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As for the esthetics, Greger, I think that the Greeks understood and valued the beauty of the human body (both male and female). grin
And I also think that there is no doubt that one can see beauty in the human figure.
But that has nothing to do with nudism.
What I meant about judging people by their looks is: we use other human faces as a means of understanding a person we don't yet know personally. It has nothing to do with their bodies.
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#244949 - 12/01/12 12:52 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Originally Posted By: Greger
What other crimes can we solve just by looking away?

If you're the Catholic Church - child molestation comes to mind. Turning a blind eye seemed to work out well in that case for the perps of the Church. coffee


Not the same thing. Someone being nude does not hurt others, except for the narrow-minded. Molestation DOES hurt others.

And Greger, yes, you don't have to look if you don't like what you see. Just like you don't have to eat what you don't like, but it's still there for others who do wish to partake.
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#244950 - 12/01/12 12:53 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: Ezekiel]
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Originally Posted By: Ezekiel
I wonder what the medical sciences have to say about these folks:

Surely "they" would say one is natural and the other is:

Quote:
...a condition marked by the urge to expose one’s sexual organs to others, particularly strangers.
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#244951 - 12/01/12 12:54 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Scoutgal
...Someone being nude does not hurt others...

WRONG!! Would you like to try again?
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#244952 - 12/01/12 12:57 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Originally Posted By: Scoutgal
...Someone being nude does not hurt others...

WRONG!! Would you like to try again?

The failure to distinguish brainwashing from reality is astonishing... rick, you must be deprogrammed! ROTFMOL
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#244955 - 12/01/12 01:07 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guy [Re: numan]
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Originally Posted By: Ezekiel
...it says something really sick about a society that is traumatized by it's own body.
All of these mores are no different than those imposed upon indigenous peoples.
Children, if not otherwise indoctrinated, find their own bodies a source of curious discovery.
But in some parts of this country, children were afraid of Black people (they were taught since infancy to be) and I'm sure it could have caused trauma. Doesn't make it right.

Excellent response, Ezekiel !! · ·

Here we are, in the midst of the greatest mass extinction since the passing of the dinosaurs, an age of global ecological and climatic catastrophe, an age of the greatest destruction in all of history of biological and cultural information, which we absurdly call the "Information Age," teetering on the edge of destuction, and our time is spent worrying about miniskirts and dangling genitals !!!

It is time for a change of taxonomic nomenclature for our species, from "Homo sapiens" To Homo stultissimus !


Exactly! ThumbsUp
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#244956 - 12/01/12 01:16 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: Greger]
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Zeke, I don't have a fixation on nudity. And I don't quite understand your comparing nudity laws to genocide. The state imposes regulations on everyone. Sometimes too many, sometimes not enough. Places are provided for naturists to enjoy themselves. Why can't the rest of us (the majority)enjoy ourselves without caving to your need to expose yourself to other people.


And I don't understand you're equating allowing public nudity to urinating or defecating in public. People could do that just as well with clothes on. That sounds like those religious nuts that keep saying "If we allow same-sex marriage, it will lead to people marrying dogs or ice cream cones!".
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#244957 - 12/01/12 01:22 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Originally Posted By: Scoutgal
...Someone being nude does not hurt others...

WRONG!! Would you like to try again?


Again, you are assuming facts not in evidence. Can you prove that all naturists are exhibitionists? Where is your proof? That article explains exhibitionism, not naturists.
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#244959 - 12/01/12 01:25 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Originally Posted By: Ezekiel
I wonder what the medical sciences have to say about these folks:

Surely "they" would say one is natural and the other is:

Quote:
...a condition marked by the urge to expose one’s sexual organs to others, particularly strangers.



You are not even close. In certain cultures there is nothing wrong with nudity. It is only in the small-minded Victorianesque minds of other cultures that nudity is wrong and therefore the small-minded must impose their mores on everybody else.
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#244960 - 12/01/12 01:30 AM Re: Legislation seeks to clothe Castro's naked guys [Re: Scoutgal]
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Just a thought, Rick~What if someone was out in public, whose body you definitely wouldn't want to see nude wore a full body suit in Spandex or was wearing a bikini or a Speedo? And you could see every delineation of their body? Are you going to want to outlaw those, too?
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