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#261607 - 08/29/13 06:03 PM Syria
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#261608 - 08/29/13 06:32 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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Holy shite

David Cameron loses Commons vote on Syria action

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British MPs have voted to reject possible military action against the Assad regime in Syria to deter the use of chemical weapons.

A government motion was defeated by 285 to 272, a majority of 13 votes.

Prime Minster David Cameron said it was clear Parliament does not want action and "the government will act accordingly".

It effectively rules out British involvement in any US-led strikes against the Assad regime.

And it comes as a potential blow to the authority of David Cameron, who had already watered down a government motion proposing military action, in response to the opposition Labour Party's demands for more evidence of Assad's guilt.
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#261611 - 08/29/13 07:16 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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Hopefully, America follows suit!
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#261612 - 08/29/13 08:42 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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You may get what you want. Since Obama is for intervention, the House will most assuredly be against.

Can the Usurper go so far as to deliberately ignore Congress when it comes to waging war? Patriotic Americans will oppose the administration's policy on the grounds that it is too timid and, rather, a concerted effort must be made to bring Peace to the Middle East as a whole and not just Syria, but Egypt, Iraq, Libya and beyond. Freedom-loving Americans will oppose the administration's policy as not our business or a waste of money or immoral or a contrived diversion or any combination there of.

This administration must be fought at every turn. True Americans will fight for what's Right on every policy.
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#261613 - 08/29/13 08:42 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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I was a wonderin' about that. Let’s say Assad carpet bombed some fellow countrymen somewhere in Syria. Would that have been ok? No “red line” crossed. So far, if the numbers are to be believed, over 100k Syrians have been killed in this recent conflict.

Would reducing a group of people to chunks of hamburger be ok?- but if they were killed by chemical weapons that somehow is worse. They are more dead? Or wounded? And red lined crossed?

I need some help with this one.
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#261614 - 08/29/13 08:51 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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Yeah, I have no clue what to do... it seems like lots of bad options
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#261615 - 08/29/13 09:07 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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interesting ... i guess it opens up the broader question but i'll leave that to the reader
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#261642 - 08/30/13 05:43 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
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Has ANYBODY here managed to figure out which group would benefit from a US strike, aside from the weapons manufacturers, that is?
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#261643 - 08/30/13 07:27 PM Re: Syria [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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which group would benefit from a US strike,


1> Certain oil producers

2> Ess-rah-ee'-lez as they are pronounced in that area.

3>Hezbollah-mebbe.

4> And last but not least- Mr. Obama for proving he is not a wimp. He can blow up stuff upon command.
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#261644 - 08/30/13 08:02 PM Re: Syria [Re: Schlack]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline
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And there you have it, this is who we're fighting for:

1. BP and Shell Oil
2. Israel, specifically Benjamin Netanyahu and his Likud faction
3. The PARTY OF GOD, on BOTH sides of the water
4. Mr. Obama's shrunken sense of manhood
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