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#262653 - 09/21/13 11:07 PM What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common?
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A: Skull and Bones

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Skull and Bones is an undergraduate senior secret society at Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut. It is the oldest senior class landed society at Yale.

How odd that four men associated with the Executive Branch of the U.S. government have this in common. It's not like Skull and Bones is a large outfit - just 15 people are 'tapped' for it every year. Odd indeed. To be clear, Barack Obama was never in the secret society of Skull and Bones, but many people he surrounds himself with in Washington DC are - which is his connection to Skull and Bones. However, GWH Bush, GW Bush, and John Kerry are members.

Perhaps secret societies are just trivial things, barely above fraternities - but, secret societies mean something to those who join: the promise of special access and insider status.

One has to wonder how Skull and Bones might influence other secret societies like Wall Street.

On August 31, 2010, The New York Times wrote an article about Barack Obama and the Iraq War and included this brief mention:

Quote:
Mr. Obama called Mr. Bush Tuesday morning from Air Force One as he was enroute to Fort Bliss, White House officials said. The two spoke “just for a few moments,” Benjamin Rhodes, deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, told reporters aboard the plane, declining to give any additional detail about the conversation...


Why would Obama call Bush given that Obama was at odds with the philosophy of GW Bush's "war?" Why "just for a few moments?" Why did the Times reporters feel it worth tossing into the article? As a mere curiosity? What is a "deputy national security adviser for strategic communications" - and was this a strategic communication?

Eight months earlier, Obama hosted another Bush who "was in town" and decided to "drop by."

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A day after meeting with House Republicans, President Obama sat down on Saturday with one of the party’s elders as he met at the White House with the first former President Bush.

Spokesmen for the White House and for Mr. Bush said the meeting was just a private visit…”The meeting was a courtesy call between the presidents,” said Jim Appleby, a spokesman for Mr. Bush. “President Bush is in town on personal business. There was no agenda for the visit this morning.”

Mr. Bush brought with him his son, former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida. It was the first meeting between the two presidents since Mr. Obama traveled to Texas last fall for a national service event with Mr. Bush. But it was the president’s second encounter with the Bush family in recent weeks, following his meeting with the second President Bush to talk about relief efforts for Haiti.


What sort of "personal business" does an octogenarian elder George Bush have with a supposed "Marxist-Kenyan" usurper and just "dropped by" and why was Jeb in tow?

A year later, Obama bestowed the Medal of Freedom, the United States’ highest award, to a group of people which included former president George H.W. Bush. Who knew that Obama was so into the Bushes that he hosts them when they simply "drop by" and or phones them from Air Force One for a "few brief moments" and bestows honors on them?

Let's keep in mind that Obama kept Robert Gates on in his new administration in 2008, who was George W. Bush’s Defense Secretary, and CIA director under HW Bush. Gates had been a longstanding member of the Bush circle, though unlike GHW, his lifelong role with the CIA is a matter of public record. Obama also kept Ben Bernanke who began his term under GW Bush and who is still Fed Chair today.

Kerry is a member of Skull and Bones and he is now the SecState for Obama.

Last week I asked Doug: What makes a former candidate begin to do the things which he abhors as a candidate, once elected?

I don't believe in coincidences. I find these facts very odd. I also find Obama's coziness with Wall Street off-putting.

I will also throw my hands into the air and give up on America if a dark horse, out-of-nowhere, Jeb Bush "happens" to become the next POTUS.

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#262654 - 09/22/13 02:24 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: pdx rick]
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What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common?

A: Skull and Bones


Really Rick?

Lets see... Wiki says
Quote:
Skull and Bones is an undergraduate senior secret society at Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut. It is the oldest senior class landed society at Yale. The society's alumni organization, the Russell Trust Association, owns the society's real estate and oversees the organization. The society is known informally as "Bones", and members are known as "Bonesmen".[1


So, Aside from the fact that I can find no reference to your allegation

The fact is that Skull and Bones is an UNDERGRADUATE org at Yale.... and Obama was never an undergraduate there.

So unless you pull a rabbit outta a hat on this
I am calling this another example of Liberal Horse Hockey
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#262658 - 09/22/13 07:17 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: pdx rick]
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Geez, Rick, that is a real stretch. What could a current President possibly have to discuss with a former President? Maybe some personal insights into the people he has met with? When it comes to exclusive societies, 'living former Presidents' is a pretty small society. Was Gates bonesman? And, how secret was GHW Bush's association with the CIA, when he was the Director!
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#262662 - 09/22/13 09:03 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
...how secret was GHW Bush's association with the CIA, when he was the Director!

GHW Bush CIA connections go back further than 1976. They go back to the 1950s when he formed Zapata. Why has GHW Bush never acknowledged his CIA connections. Even Putin has acknowledged his former spook past, for pete's sake.

Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
What could a current President possibly have to discuss with a former President? Maybe some personal insights into the people he has met with? When it comes to exclusive societies, 'living former Presidents' is a pretty small society.

True. My gut instinct tells me that Barack Obama being, in many ways, 180° different from candidate Barack Obama, is a clue to "something" ain't right and that the Bushes are responsible for this change - particularly GHW Bush is what I feel.
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#262664 - 09/22/13 09:12 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: Ardy]
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Originally Posted By: Ardy
The fact is that Skull and Bones is an UNDERGRADUATE org at Yale.... and Obama was never an undergraduate there.

I acknowledged that fact, Ardy in my original post. However, Mr. Obama is highly connected to men who are Bonesman is the point - two of whom are former presidents who happen to be Bushes.
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#262665 - 09/22/13 09:43 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
...Was Gates bonesman?...

No, but was George W. Bush’s Defense Secretary, and CIA Director under HW Bush. Gates has been a longstanding member of the Bush inner-circle as well.
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#262666 - 09/22/13 10:02 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: pdx rick]
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I recall the apparent widespread Skull and Bones connections surfacing as an issue during one of the GW Bush campaigns, and I wondered at the time why it didn't get more legs as a juicy conspiracy.

In any case it didn't, but that airing had a lot more meat on it than this tenuous "connection" to Obama. CRick, yer gonna have to sex it up at least an order of magnitude to get more than a fart and a yawn outta me!
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#262667 - 09/22/13 10:18 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
CRick, yer gonna have to sex it up at least an order of magnitude to get more than a fart and a yawn outta me!

I can only lead a horse to water, I can't make it drink the water. If it's a proverbial climax you're looking for, it's the Zapata link - which I have referenced twice now: in the original post and in rebuttal to NW_P. wink

You're simply not clicking the links and you're gonna have to, to find the sexy which you're looking for. Hmm
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#262668 - 09/22/13 10:21 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: pdx rick]
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Doug got me thinking with his rant about candidate Obama and President Obama. I stated on that rant that I happen to agree with Doug - which got me thinking. Yes, politicos say things to get elected - then do another.

...but this time it felt different. I truly believe that candidate Obama was genuine in his vision for America and that "something" happened on the way to the swearing in - or shortly thereafter - to change that vision.
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#262669 - 09/22/13 10:26 AM Re: What does Obama, the Bush men, and Kerry have in common? [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick
Originally Posted By: Ardy
The fact is that Skull and Bones is an UNDERGRADUATE org at Yale.... and Obama was never an undergraduate there.

I acknowledged that fact, Ardy in my original post. However, Mr. Obama is highly connected to men who are Bonesman is the point - two of whom are former presidents who happen to be Bushes.


Here is a tip for you Rick
A headline should try to capture the subject of your writing

In this case
There seems to be little information about S&B
Or about any connection between S&B and Obama

Mostly you seem to be drawing connections based upon speculation and suspicion
As opposed to presenting facts

A surfeit of conspiracy theorists provide similar diversions for those so inclined

Why not start a thread that discusses a festering concern of yours. Why is it that Obama has made so many wall street friendly choices?

That way you could address the issue as a topic rather than a tangent
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