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#264197 - 10/21/13 07:29 AM America: Home of the greed and land of the grave
Doug Thompson Offline

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America: Home of the greed and land of the grave

By DOUG THOMPSON - A Capitol Hill Blue Commentary
Ask not for whom the system reaps for it reaps for thee.

Ask not for whom the system reaps for it reaps for thee.

Yes, Virginia, a time once existed when America was considered the land of of the free and home of the brave.

As the overused saying goes, that was then and this is now.

Today, America is better known as the land of the greedy and home of the grave.

The greedy run things in Washington. Every decision made by Congress is based on greed and the first question that affects that decision is “how will it benefit me.” In these cases, “me” is the elected representative, whose priority is never the majority of voters in his or her district or state but the moneyed few who pay for the votes and provide largesse.

The only “we” that interests such people are those with the big checks and a route to a lucrative lifestyle while in Congress (or the White House) and who can and will provide a comfortable living once the ludicrously-called “public service” is over.

America’s government is a corrupt, rotting cesspool of vipers controlled by a even-more-corrupt political system that is ruled by money and greed. Those who ignore such realities face grave consequences, hence the “home of the grave.”

A tiny shred of idealism remains in me, one that hopes there is an answer at the end of the dark, foreboding tunnel that America has become, but that shred is tattered and almost gone. America’s government is a system ruled by liars and the only defense offered by those who still support the liar of their choice is usually a sad, tired line of “well, his lies are not as bad as those of the other guy.”

Honesty is not, and never can be, an expectation in a system where “spin” rules and facts become irrelevant. Those in search of answers shift from one false prophet to the other because those who promise salvation consider themselves first and only.

Political failures litter America’s landscape liked sewage. The sad fact that enough people once considered candidates like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Newt Gingrich and so many others once worthy of serious support only showcases the shallowness and failures of the system itself.

As 2014′s mid-term elections approach next year, a lot of talk emerges about a “throw out the incumbents” mood growing in the nation. But throw them out and replace them with who? Odds are, the crop of alternatives won’t be any better and could be even worse.

In the 2016 Presidential race, the prospects look no better. Republicans flit from one national joke to another with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz as one of the latest favorites. Ted Cruz? God help us.

On the Democratic side, the party of the donkey may have to fall back on former First Lady and past Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as their choice.

Wait a minute. Didn’t Hillary say after she stepped down as Secretary of State that she would not run for President? Yeah, she said something like that.

But what’s another liar on the ballot.

Been there, done that.

And most likely will do it again.


Copyright © 2013 Capitol Hill Blue

#264209 - 10/21/13 11:43 AM Re: America: Home of the greed and land of the grave [Re: Doug Thompson]
Ardy Offline

Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 11735
Loc: San Jose, Ca USA
Yeah. Kinda discouraging

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."

#264211 - 10/21/13 01:21 PM Re: America: Home of the greed and land of the grave [Re: Doug Thompson]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 10550
Loc: Downey, California
Get the big money out of politics. That's our biggest problem.
And I think we've had enough of the Bushes and the Clintons for a generation.
That's not to say that those two can't contribute something but I think it is time
America looked in a different direction apart from the two major political dynasties.

I vote Elizabeth Warren.
"Our options for change range from basically what we have plus a little more Hayek,
to what we have plus a little more Keynes. Why?"

---Benjamin Bratton

#264213 - 10/21/13 02:15 PM Re: America: Home of the greed and land of the grave [Re: Doug Thompson]
Ardy Offline

Registered: 12/22/05
Posts: 11735
Loc: San Jose, Ca USA
IMO, many of these problems have been exacerbated by our conflation of free markets and a free country. At some point we have started looking at more and more of our lives as an expression of free markets.... and applied free market logic to these other areas.

we start with the idea that the greatest economic good is achieved by absolute freedom of each market participant. The idea is that we are all benefited by the economic prosperity of this open competition.

That competition is driven by personal interest. There is not much room for serving broader social needs, except through the guiding hand of free markets... that will inherently rationalize conflicting needs to the optimal economic solution.

When you apply this sort of logic to politics... you come up with ideas such as the citizens united decision that seems to equate political spending with free speech. Politics becomes simply a field of spin marketers competing to win market share. Politial paries become like gigantic corporations. There is little room for serving the needs of the nation because everyone is competitively feathering their own nest.

If you consider politics as an expression of the free market, it seems logical that you would see the same sorts of problems that you see in a free economic market. In free markets, people try to get monopoly power... same in politics. In free markets competitors will lie about their products, they will lie about competitive products, etc. Same in politics. In free markets, the big players tend to win and force out competition... same in politics.

Free markets have some problems.... we are no longer surprised at these problems. Maybe there is no better solution than free markets and we just have to accept the inherent problems Hmm Same with politics.... either we live with the problems of no regulation, or we live with the problems of having regulation.

"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts."

#264227 - 10/21/13 08:57 PM Re: America: Home of the greed and land of the grave [Re: Doug Thompson]
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Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 3320
Loc: Somewhere out in left field


The Nozickian outlook is often represented as moral common sense. But is it? Here I pose four questions for anyone inclined to accept Nozickís argument that a just society is simply one in which the free market operates unfettered. Each question targets one of the premises or implications of Nozickís argument. If youíre going to buy Nozickís argument, you must say yes to all four. But doing so isnít as easy as it might first appear.

As if some hypothetical, Statist fantasy arguments are a valid retort of Nozick's Free Market Libertarianism!
How eager they are to be slaves - Tiberus Caesar

Coulda tripped out easy, but I've changed my ways - Donovan

I consider myself to be a laid back type and quite tolerant on most issues - AB Breivik


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