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#265265 - 11/14/13 07:44 PM Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game
Golem Offline

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Joe Posnanski
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November 13, 2013

...We are coming on 25 years of Pete Rose's banishment...

Pete Rose played baseball with an intensity and love that might be unmatched in the game's history. He cracked more hits and reached base more times than anyone ever. He represented a way to play baseball that inspired millions of people. Then, he gambled on games, breaking one of baseball's most cherished rules. Rose is 72 years old now, and I think it's time to let him back into the game. I don't think anyone should ask him to apologize again or come any cleaner than he has. I don't think anyone should expect Pete Rose to be something that he is not. It has been almost 25 years. He has paid his debt.


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I think he's a jerk but I'm OK with him getting admitted to the HOF.
Should Pete Rose be admitted to the Baseball Hall of Fame?
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#265271 - 11/14/13 09:09 PM Re: Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game [Re: Golem]
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Nothing to say except AGREED. ThumbsUp
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#265279 - 11/15/13 07:20 AM Re: Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game [Re: Golem]
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It aamzes me sometimes what sins are "forgivable" and which are not. I agree too. If his betting had affected the games, I'd feel differently (Black Sox). In an era when reprobate politicians are reelected, and where dog maulers get second chances to play the game, and where drug use is rampant, and where aggression - even toward teammates - is excused by many, Mr. Rose's treatment seems quaint and anachronistic. The sins of our fathers are not greater than our own.
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#265300 - 11/15/13 11:03 AM Re: Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game [Re: Golem]
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Rose should have been in the Baseball Hall of Fame a decade ago.

#265314 - 11/15/13 09:04 PM Re: Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game [Re: Joe Keegan]
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Originally Posted By: Joe Keegan
Rose should have been in the Baseball Hall of Fame a decade ago.

Disagree wholeheartedly. Pete Rose absolutely does NOT belong in the same group with Ty Cobb and Babe Ruth. He doesn't drink enough, doesn't appear to be sufficiently qualified as a womanizer, and didn't gamble enough away from baseball to fit in.
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#265317 - 11/15/13 09:35 PM Re: Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game [Re: Golem]
Ardy Offline

Registered: 12/22/05
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Loc: San Jose, Ca USA
I cannot say I like rose
But his talent is unquestioned
His accomplishments not tainted by drugs
And his sins mostly victimless

Those who presume to judge him have likely been complicit in allowing pervasive use of performance enhancing drugs which has made it nearly impossible to View the accomplishments of those who have been admitted.

All of which greatly debases the hall of fAme itself
at this point I simply don't give A damn about the HOF

So sure. Let Pete in the Hall And add an honorary wax status of Elvis too. The game lives on, but the romance has left the building.
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