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#265662 - 11/24/13 02:51 PM What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate?
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What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate?
What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate?
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#265663 - 11/24/13 03:04 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Golem]
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I think it should be abolished. And I acknowledge that it has been used to advance positions I have held.
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#265664 - 11/24/13 03:10 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Golem]
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Oh you didn't notice everyone's opinion here?
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#265666 - 11/24/13 03:24 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Phil Hoskins]
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Originally Posted By: Phil Hoskins
I think it should be abolished. And I acknowledge that it has been used to advance positions I have held.

I agree completely.

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#265667 - 11/24/13 03:24 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: california rick


Oh you didn't notice everyone's opinion here?

No.

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#265669 - 11/24/13 04:26 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Phil Hoskins]
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Originally Posted By: Phil Hoskins
I think it should be abolished. And I acknowledge that it has been used to advance positions I have held.


me too
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#265692 - 11/24/13 11:31 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Golem]
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I don't think it should be abolished but the way it morphed into a "push button convenience" was totally wrong.

Filibustering tonight?
Great, here's some folding cots, some bottled water, some pizza and some Depends.
Fire at will but if you stop talking, the filibuster is over and NO ONE LEAVES the chamber till you stop filibustering either.

That's how it used to be, that's how it SHOULD be today if it is going to be used.
You want to filibuster, you better be ready to stand and deliver.
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#265703 - 11/25/13 12:20 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Golem]
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I suppose that would allow some Ted Cruz style grandstanding. But I fail to see much added value to the process.
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#265707 - 11/25/13 03:11 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Golem]
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I agree with the original purpose: That the minority should have ample opportunity to be heard on an issue before a vote takes place. So I like the proposals that require actual continuous speech from a standing podium (or from a wheelchair if the speech is delivered from a Senator who must use one all the time). The votes required for cloture would start at 66, but then decrease to 60, 55, and finally 50 every hour.

But even if the 50 vote threshold has been reached, and the votes are not there to end the filibuster, the Senator delivering the speech would have to stop once he or she could no longer speak, stand, etc. No replacements allowed.

I think that is plenty of time for the minority to make all of their points, but lets the Senate function.

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#265708 - 11/25/13 03:19 PM Re: What do you think about the filibuster in the US Senate? [Re: Golem]
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I would also like to point out that Republicans in this Congress have agreed several times not to abuse the filibuster, in exchange for the Democrats holding off on a rules change. They seemed to keep forgetting those promises, so the rules change was their choice.

I have not seen any mention of this in the press stories about the rules change, but I remember it actually happened more than twice.

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