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#265970 - 12/03/13 05:55 AM Cost This Truck Driver $183,000
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


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So based on the calculations used by this judge, what do you suppose the fine should be for all the folks launching "denial of service" attacks on the Obamacare website?

I'm thinking something in the hundreds of billions.

Loading Koch Industries Website Too Many Times In 1 Minute Just Cost This Truck Driver $183,000


Edited by Jeffery J. Haas (12/03/13 06:20 AM)
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#265984 - 12/03/13 05:09 PM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I agree!
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#265986 - 12/03/13 07:00 PM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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And if you add in all their other efforts to deny services to all Americans... a Trillion?
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#265987 - 12/03/13 07:01 PM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Did I understand correctly that the Judge was a paid Koch consultant?
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#265989 - 12/03/13 08:28 PM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Really? I must have missed that bit of information!
Where did it mention that?
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#265993 - 12/03/13 09:15 PM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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When it said he'd ordered restitution for losses not incurred. Restitution is an "equitable" remedy, and the judge clearly skipped that day in law school. Unless, of course, he got his degree from Liberty.
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#265999 - 12/03/13 11:58 PM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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In the early days of the Internet, the ultimate penalty for bad behavior (such as a denial of service attack) was something called Internet Death: Nobody would accept or forward your data packets, so even if you still had a physical connection you were effectively cut off from the Internet. Your DOS packets would just get discarded by the first computer you did not own, on its way to the Internet, so your attack would only clog your own local area network. If you were caught generating such traffic by your company or school IT department, you got fired or expelled. (Since the entire institution's Internet traffic might be dropped as well.)

I think we need to require a feedback system so every computer connected to the Internet can respond to an Internet Death warrant once more. This would work much better than selective persecution of some dummy who mounted a DOS attack from his own computer, and would also destroy one of the most effective weapons of bot-net hackers.

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#266001 - 12/04/13 12:40 AM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
So based on the calculations used by this judge, what do you suppose the fine should be for all the folks launching "denial of service" attacks on the Obamacare website?

Link, please.
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#266004 - 12/04/13 01:26 AM Re: Cost This Truck Driver $183,000 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Google is your friend.
Not playing your idiotic game.
If you want to learn more about coordinated attacks on the ACA website, I am sure that you are capable of informing yourself about them.
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