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#269128 - 03/13/14 04:14 AM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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The rule change prohibits automakers from selling directly to consumers, as Tesla does. Instead, it requires them to go through franchised, third-party dealerships, as the big, traditional car companies do. In other words, it requires that the middle-men get their cut. ...and the garbage collectors are to get a cut too for "insurance" reasons. Budda bing.
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#269179 - 03/14/14 11:15 PM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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Granted, Donna...nothing stops them from going out of state. But this hurts Tesla and all electric car futures as a whole. It is a punitive regulation which protects established interests which are sympathetic to Christie and that is all it is and nothing else.
And egads, the hypocrisy.
Using Christie's logic, EVERYTHING should be sold through a middleman, right? Time to open up a dealership that sells military jet fighters, because Lord knows, Lockheed has no right to sell them to our government (or anyone else's) directly.
See where this is going? Sadly, yes.
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#269181 - 03/15/14 02:02 AM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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Apparently other States are also imposing such schemes, which is why we have an Interstate Commerce Clause in the U.S. Constitution. I suspect, if challenged, the NJ law would be struck down as a barrier to interstate commerce without a legitimate state interest, under the "Dormant Commerce Clause" analysis: Where the statute regulates evenhandedly to effectuate a legitimate local public interest, and its effects on interstate commerce are only incidental, it will be upheld unless the burden imposed on such commerce is clearly excessive in relation to the putative local benefits.
If a legitimate local purpose is found, then the question becomes one of degree. And the extent of the burden that will be tolerated will, of course, depend on the nature of the local interest involved, and on whether it could be promoted as well with a lesser impact on interstate activities. Pike v. Bruce Church, Inc.
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#269184 - 03/15/14 06:48 AM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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Granted, Donna...nothing stops them from going out of state. But this hurts Tesla and all electric car futures as a whole. It is a punitive regulation which protects established interests which are sympathetic to Christie and that is all it is and nothing else. Being the RINO that Christie is, I'm sure 'Big Oil' Koch Industries has contributed heavily to Christie.
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#269191 - 03/15/14 02:27 PM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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Granted, Donna...nothing stops them from going out of state. But this hurts Tesla and all electric car futures as a whole. It is a punitive regulation which protects established interests which are sympathetic to Christie and that is all it is and nothing else. Being the RINO that Christie is, I'm sure 'Big Oil' Koch Industries has contributed heavily to Christie. Oh my! ...Christie's secret trip to Colorado to speak at the Koch brothers' June fundraising seminar... Thank you Mother Jones 
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#269195 - 03/15/14 04:32 PM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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Just saw an article that nj is not unique
Texas. Az. Md. All require sales through dealership
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#269197 - 03/15/14 05:06 PM
Re: Christie Unilaterally Shuts Down All Tesla Stores in NJ
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And, for the same reason, Ardy. Note, too, that the majority of these enactments come from "conservative" governments. If challenged, I think they will fall. Interestingly, though, it presents a dilemma for pro-business courts. On the one hand, they hate protectionism, as it is the ultimate in State interference in business. On the other hand, big bidness likes driving down costs. They (the courts) will have a hard time pleasing both masters.
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