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#270540 - 05/08/14 04:56 PM A problem with professional sports
jgw Offline

Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 1345
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
CNN has added the Donald Sterling Clippers thing to its obsessions. The man said some offensive things and the powers that be have decided to shut him down. The man bought the team, several years ago, for 12 million, and now they say its worth more than 750 million.

Anyway, here his my problem. Donal Sterling is called an "owner". There are, evidently, something like 30 other 'owners' of professional basketball teams. Other sports, baseball, football, etc. also have 'owners'. When Mr. Sterling was talking about the members of the team that he 'owns' he didn't whine about how much money they were being paid but, rather, pointed out that he 'supplied' them with houses, cars, food, etc. I thought this was pretty telling. If he was an employer he would have spoken, I think, about how much he paid them. He choose, instead, to mention 'services' that he, as a good 'owner', provided to the team that he owns. Team members, when they sign their 'contract' give up their freedom for the big bucks. They are told how to dress, how to behave, what to say, and what they can and cannot do. They are, in other words - SLAVES! I am sure that the team members do not see it that way, I suspect most of the public do not see it that was BUT, I think that Mr. Sterling, with, I think, good reason, does.

I also suspect that most of the other owners do too. Sterling's sin was not so much racist as letting this cat out of the bag. I also suspect that if the team was owned by team members things would be MUCH different. Its like congressmen who tend to leave the comfy range of abetted greed to get more. They too tend to get put down rather abruptly. (if anybody doesn't understand how those that write the laws created their comfy range of abetted greed I would be happy to explain that one).

I am, obviously, not a big fan of professional team sports. Racism, Slavery, Human Trafficking, are the current hot subjects, and so I thought I would weigh in. I also don't believe that slavery has that much to do with race as it does 'ownership'. If you "own" a team then you also "own" each team member (irregardless of race). If those team members happen to be human then you "own" humans. If you own "humans" then you are a slave owner. Seems logical to me.

#270555 - 05/08/14 11:24 PM Re: A problem with professional sports [Re: jgw]
Jeffery J. Haas Online   content

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 10981
Loc: Whittier, California
Nope, they have employment contracts and, in most pro sports leagues, they have union bylaws as well.
They're not owned, and in fact they are quite the opposite. They're hired help.
To Sterling, they are "the help" but that's just HIS view of things.

The fact is, pro athletes in this country get paid like gods, get treated like gods and, in many cases, they act like gods. Every one of these athletes in the NBA makes enough money that, with two or three good seasons, they could retire for life and live comfortably as long as they don't buy into the hype and just get a decent house in some suburb. The fact that they are elevated into a lifestyle that demands that they keep up appearances is irrelevant. It's their choice. They can buy a Lambo and live in Encino or Bel-Air or Brentwood or they could buy a nice Subaru Forester and live in West L.A. or Downey.

Sterling isn't supplying them with anything but lots of money. The fact that he still sees them as "house ni**ers" is simply the unspoken truth that got out accidentally.

Yes, they are bound by certain rules pertaining to behavior and conduct however the bigger the star's athetic record of wins, the more leeway they get.

I'm told how to dress every time I step onto a set. Most of the time it's either "show blacks" (black shirt, black pants, socks and shoes) or khakis, unmarked tee shirt and a camera vest.
I'm told how to behave, too.

And, in a very real sense, if you go by Sterling's metrics as you see them, I too am owned, by the producer and director, for anywhere from ten to sixteen hours per shoot day.
"Anti-intellectualism has long been the "anti-semitism" of the businessman."
---Arthur Schlesinger

#270556 - 05/09/14 12:47 AM Re: A problem with professional sports [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
Ken Condon Offline

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