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#272313 - 07/06/14 02:33 AM Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court
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According to SCOTUS math, corporations are 400% more important than people.
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Ill close by mentioning just how well corporations are faring at the Supreme Court this term. The Constitutional Accountability Center has been keeping track and says the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has an 115 record before the court, bringing it to 328, or 80 percent, over the past three years.
Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court.

I have been making this argument for some time, but it was interesting seeing it put into numbers.
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#272317 - 07/06/14 03:11 AM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
According to SCOTUS math, corporations are 400% more important than people.
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Ill close by mentioning just how well corporations are faring at the Supreme Court this term. The Constitutional Accountability Center has been keeping track and says the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has an 115 record before the court, bringing it to 328, or 80 percent, over the past three years.
Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court.

I have been making this argument for some time, but it was interesting seeing it put into numbers.


Could this be why there are so many memes of certain justices wearing corporate logos? rolleyes
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#272319 - 07/06/14 10:05 AM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: NW Ponderer]
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...from NW_Ps link:
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...and while Hobby Lobby and lots of (all?) for-profit companies now have religious rights they never had before, at least the court thinks they still have to provide insurance coverage that pays for vaccinations and blood transfusions.

But...but...many Christian sects only believe in faith-based healing. Seems that Justice Alito didn't think his opinion through.

Hmm
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#272321 - 07/06/14 10:42 AM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: pdx rick]
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Yep-Christian Scientists and some other extreme Christian sects believe in just praying for the illness to be healed by divine intervention, or the laying on of hands. And then you've got your Jehovah's Witnesses that do not believe in using blood products. Wait until they start wanting to refuse blood transfusions, transplants and vaccinations-or in the case of faith healer religions, ANY kind of medical coverage for employees.
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#272327 - 07/06/14 11:24 AM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Ah, but I think Justice Alito did think this through. He has no interest in following the law, nor, as has already been demonstrated, did he believe that the Hobby Lobby decision would be "narrowly construed." Wheaton. That was pure fiction. He has taken a page from the CJ Roberts playbook: create a broad, sweeping pretext in one case pretending it is "just this once" ("We are aware of the problem of handgun violence in this country, and we take seriously the concerns raised by the many amici who believe that prohibition of handgun ownership is a solution."), then ram it down everyone's throat the next term. See, e.g. Heller/McDonald re:gun control. In this instance, it only took 3 days to set up the follow-on scenario. The Roberts ACA decision was another example, as the "rationale" for his position is much worse than just striking down the law. He had much bigger ambitions. The longer this cabal is in control, the worse for American law. It will take decades to undo the damage, if it can ever be done.


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#272329 - 07/06/14 11:47 AM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Scoutgal
...or in the case of faith healer religions, ANY kind of medical coverage for employees.

Exactly the point of my post. We will be living in dangerous times. If the RWingnuts are worried about immigrants bringing disease - wait until their fellow Americans start spreading disease.
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#272330 - 07/06/14 11:49 AM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
...create a broad, sweeping pretext in one case pretending it is "just this once", then ram it down everyone's throat the next term...

Isn't that the definition of a sociopath?
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#272333 - 07/06/14 01:04 PM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: NW Ponderer]
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"Just this once???"
Isn't that a lot like the captain of the football team promising his drunken prom date he will "only put the tip in" or that he will "respect her in the morning?"
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#272334 - 07/06/14 01:17 PM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Or saying "you can't get pregnant on the first time". rolleyes
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#272335 - 07/06/14 01:34 PM Re: Corporations had an incredible year at the Supreme Court [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Yes, yes, and yes.
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