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#280851 - 09/08/15 01:04 PM The terrorism of ‘God’s law’
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The Terrorism of ‘God’s Law’
September 8, 2015 | by DOUG THOMPSON - A CHB Opinion



For America in these troubled times, the primary war for survival usually comes from religious fanatics.

Muslim religious fundamentalists brought down the World Trade Center in 2011 and changed the American way of life.

Now religious terrorism within America comes not from jihad spouting fundamentalists from afar but instead the hardcore right wing here at home and who pound the Bible and spout claims of supremacy of God and Jesus Christ.

In Kentucky, the Rowan County clerk sits in jail for refusing the obey the Constitution while claiming she answers to “a higher power” of fundamentalist Christian religion.

Is she a threat to America? Damn right she is, along with the Bible-spouting fanatics who claim Armageddon is coming in a fiery Judgement Day where God almighty will strike down the sinners who follow the law of the land. They promote purported claims of advocating religion over all else.

Hard line fundamentalists scream that “the second day of judgement is coming” and claim gay marriage, legal abortion and everything from premarital sex to a threat of immigration will being an angry God coming to earth to lay waste on those who don’t heed the call.

Here in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Southwestern Virginia, we we moved to after 23 years in Washington, DC, we see and hear the rants of the “born again” types daily with their claims the end is near, which is why we need to prepare for judgement day.

Religious fundamentalism ripples through the mob of Republican Presidential candidates like a nest of vipers ready to attack. Ted Cruz, Mike Huckabee, Rick Santorum and others preach a claimed necessity for the “law of God” rather than a law based on the Constitution and the needs of the country.

Maybe that’s why Donald Trump, a flashy billionaire who chases women, money and self-serving fame, leads the polls for the Republicans. He’s the last thing the fundamentalists want to see and their rabid religious rants have driven many away from the GOP conservative code.

On the Democrat side, Bernie Sanders, a self-styled Socialist, is threatening the once seemingly impossible lead of Hillary Rodham Clinton as the choice of the party of the jackass — oops, we meant to say “donkey.”

As in politics, religious fundamentalism is based on the fallacy of a supreme philosophy. Religious fanatics from different religious denominations preach the existence of a “supreme being” that they call “the one God” who, in their minds, should have absolute call on everyone’s lives.

But the “one God” is subject to differing interpretations of varying religious beliefs. The “one God” promoted by Baptists varies in interpretation from the “one” described by Jews. Muslims view “God” differently than Christians. Even within the “Christian church,” there are differing beliefs and interpretations from Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Mormons and so on.

Fundamentalist Presbyterians, for example, split from churches of the Presbyterian Church USA over the issue of gay marriage. Some Christian faiths welcome and recognize gays. Others call them sinners and bar the doors.

So which God spouts which law? It depends on who is interpreting what is basically just a belief in a supreme being that may or may not exist.

All religions are based on beliefs, not actual facts. Congregations of one church buy into one set of “rules” while members of other congregations accept other beliefs down the street.

Albert Einstein said he did not believe in “a personal god.” He considered himself an agnostic. Celebrities like Jodie Foster, Morgan Freeman, Brad Pitt and Anglina Jolie say they are atheists. Members of Congress like Rep. Pete Stark of California and Rep. Barney Frank were atheists but Frank kept his non-belief secret until he retired. Former pro wrestler and Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura is also a non-believer.

Various religions are dominated by con artists who play on the gullible who need to accept one belief or another to deal with the realities of life. Many build monuments to their beliefs and live high on the hog from donations who accept their claims as gospel.

Some, like Jim and Tammy Faye Baker, get caught and end up in prison. Others, like Jim Jones, lead their flocks to mass suicides. Still others preach their vision of purity while cheating on their wives and raiding the collection boxes. Ministers, like others in their flocks, go to prison for murder, admit fathering children outside of marriage and engage in sexual acts with others of their gender.

Religions quote “the word of God” but the words they speak are their own interpretations of a God that may or may not exist and could have a different view of the world. Close reading of the bible reveals a tome of contradictions, hypocrisies and recommendations for murder along with hatred and bigotry.

In the end, the goal of religious fundamentalists is control of the masses and they consider religion as just another tool of political influence.

God, if he or she exists, is probably sitting back somewhere laughing his or her ass off at all the lunacy generated in “their” names.
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#280852 - 09/08/15 01:14 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Scoutgal]
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As a devout ELCA Lutheran(with some Buddhist influences from my father's faith), I find it very arrogant to claim that God is on any side. If, as most faiths claim, that God created all things, then how could God take sides? It would be like asking parents to pick sides between their children.

I see nothing wrong with following the 10 Commandments, or even better, the teachings of Jesus Christ. To love God, and to love thy neighbor, treating them as you would want to be treated. But I do not believe in hounding people to believe as I do, or to force my religious practices on others. I want to be treated with common courtesy and respect in regards to my faith. And I will try to treat others with common courtesy and respect in regards to theirs(or their non-faith).
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#280853 - 09/08/15 01:27 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Doug Thompson
Religions quote “the word of God” but the words they speak are their own interpretations of a God that may or may not exist and could have a different view of the world. Close reading of the bible reveals a tome of contradictions, hypocrisies and recommendations for murder along with hatred and bigotry.

In the end, the goal of religious fundamentalists is control of the masses and they consider religion as just another tool of political influence.


It has always bewildered me how so many don't see this as clearly as Doug pointed it out.
I've never found it necessary to believe in some all powerful supernatural figure in order to live a decent and moral and honest life.
The historical Yeshua is probably turning over in his grave at the nonsense and evil that is perpetrated in his name. Especially given his own view of the planet and its occupants.
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#280868 - 09/08/15 05:59 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Ezekiel]
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Originally Posted By: Ezekiel
Originally Posted By: Doug Thompson
Religions quote “the word of God” but the words they speak are their own interpretations of a God that may or may not exist and could have a different view of the world. Close reading of the bible reveals a tome of contradictions, hypocrisies and recommendations for murder along with hatred and bigotry.

In the end, the goal of religious fundamentalists is control of the masses and they consider religion as just another tool of political influence.



It has always bewildered me how so many don't see this as clearly as Doug pointed it out.
I've never found it necessary to believe in some all powerful supernatural figure in order to live a decent and moral and honest life.
The historical Yeshua is probably turning over in his grave at the nonsense and evil that is perpetrated in his name. Especially given his own view of the planet and its occupants.


Religion in most cases along with fear has been used to control people. and to gain money and power.
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#280876 - 09/08/15 08:08 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Scoutgal]
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The bible (old and new) are simple references to prove anything. Since the books tend to come down, for and against, just about everything, they work real good for them with the direct path to the Lord. I have always found it interesting that in any other circumstance but religious conviction, those that hear, and believe the voices in their heads are considered to be insane.

Just a thought...............

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#280879 - 09/09/15 03:51 AM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Scoutgal]
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I say, "Don't blame God for your bigotry."
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#280881 - 09/09/15 12:36 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I say, "Don't blame God for your bigotry."


smile

If god were a bigot there would be nothing/no one to be bigoted against.

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#280882 - 09/09/15 06:01 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Scoutgal]
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The Romans had the right idea.
They threw the Christians to the lions.
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#280884 - 09/09/15 06:49 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Scoutgal]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
The Romans had the right idea.
They threw the Christians to the lions.


Hell - they could just bring back the Brazen Bull... devil


Edited by Ezekiel (09/09/15 06:50 PM)
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#280905 - 09/10/15 07:16 PM Re: The terrorism of ‘God’s law’ [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
The Romans had the right idea.
They threw the Christians to the lions.


All the Christians? How much like the current evangelical Christians you are. Pot calling the kettle black with that one. rolleyes
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