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#284489 - 01/27/16 07:43 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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Trump's latest announcement that he won't show up for the FOX debate makes me think he really does not want to win. He simply does not have the temperament to be President, and I think he knows it. If he did win, I think he would resign after a few months, ala Sarah Palin.

These people like all the attention, but don't really want the responsibilities and restrictions of the job. Trump is the premier attention-seeker of our time. Too bad so many people are interested in watching him do his thing, but you know half of the population have IQs below 100.

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#284490 - 01/27/16 08:09 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I’ve long believed that Trump never really wanted (nor wants) to be POTUS, but rather he was having and grand old time playing candidate. And pulling everyones chain as it could become a reality. For the “reality” TV guy. I would sometimes ponder if he were to have actually won the nomination and then the general, if he would not then and there announce his resignation on the spot.

He is full of bombast and bluster but he is not a stupid man and he certaInly must know that the office of POTUS is very much over his head. Perhaps this Megyn Kelly distraction is just the vehicle he needs to smoothly make his get away.
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#284491 - 01/27/16 08:11 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Trump's latest announcement that he won't show up for the FOX debate makes me think he really does not want to win.

He's doing something on CNN instead for wounded warriors. I'll bet that CNN gets better ratings.
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#284492 - 01/27/16 08:12 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ken Condon]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Condon
I’ve long believed that Trump never really wanted (nor wants) to be POTUS, but rather he was having and grand old time playing candidate. And pulling everyones chain as it could become a reality.

Trump is being very smart in the way that he is running his candidacy. He's renting out his cars, helicopters and planes to his campaign and the campaign is paying for the use of those items.
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#284495 - 01/27/16 11:47 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pdx rick]
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The US tax code is a beautiful thing. For those fortunate enough to take full advantage of it’s intricacies and oddities. Such as our Dis-Honorable Mr. Trump is doing.

Why simplify it when it can be used as a vessel of remunerated nonsense and shtick such as this? He who laughs last laughs best--- at the Laffer Curve.
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#284500 - 01/28/16 09:55 AM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ken Condon]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Condon
I’ve long believed that Trump never really wanted (nor wants) to be POTUS, but rather he was having and grand old time playing candidate. And pulling everyones chain as it could become a reality. For the “reality” TV guy. I would sometimes ponder if he were to have actually won the nomination and then the general, if he would not then and there announce his resignation on the spot.

He is full of bombast and bluster but he is not a stupid man and he certaInly must know that the office of POTUS is very much over his head. Perhaps this Megyn Kelly distraction is just the vehicle he needs to smoothly make his get away.


I don't think he ever intended to get this far, and the fact that he has scares the shyte out of him.
He also knows he can't win a general election, and as he has said many times, he doesn't like losing. So I believe he'll find to a way to exit in true Trump style, i.e., not so gracefully.
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#284501 - 01/28/16 03:36 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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Trump's fall from grace may be imminent. His rallies are becoming more and more chaotic with battles between supporters and protesters. His move to skip the Debate might also serve to trip him up.

I'd like to see him win the nomination as it will insure a Democratic win in the general election. But if he doesn't it's no skin off my ass and there won't be a brokered convention so I win the bet either way.

One poll has Bush in second place in New Hampshire?
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#284503 - 01/28/16 08:34 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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I don't think he's going to quit yet: He will leave when his leaving leaves the party in shambles. Because then he wins, from his point of view.

Got to win some primaries first and since the other candidates are such flakes it should be easy. His supporters are not so much Republicans as they are reality TV fans. So even if he leaves the Republican presidential hopes at zero, his fans will see him as more important than the rest of the party. Which means pretty much the end of the party.

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#284509 - 01/29/16 02:16 AM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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As many times as we've predicted the end of the Republican party they still control both houses of congress as well as most of the governor's mansions and state legislatures.

As long as there are old white men there will be Republicans.
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#284517 - 01/29/16 11:41 AM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Trump's fall from grace may be imminent. His rallies are becoming more and more chaotic with battles between supporters and protesters. His move to skip the Debate might also serve to trip him up.

I'd like to see him win the nomination as it will insure a Democratic win in the general election. But if he doesn't it's no skin off my ass and there won't be a brokered convention so I win the bet either way.

One poll has Bush in second place in New Hampshire?


We shall see. But if he drops out he doesn't get the nomination. So I win grin
The bet is only that he either gets the nomination, or else makes it to the convention, thus forcing a brokered convention. If he doesn't make it to the convention there would be no need for the brokerage.


Edited by Ezekiel (01/29/16 11:44 AM)
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