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#292374 - 09/10/16 02:40 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pdx rick]
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Trump: Hillary Clinton is unbalanced, unhinged

That's the pot calling the kettle black.
Trump is the master of playground tactics: "I'm rubber, you're glue." It happens over and over. The tactic is very old, and professionals like Kellyanne Conway use it all the time - tar your opponent with the brush used on you, and people will see "equivalence."
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#292388 - 09/10/16 05:57 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Trump: Hillary Clinton is unbalanced, unhinged

That's the pot calling the kettle black.
Trump is the master of playground tactics: "I'm rubber, you're glue." It happens over and over. The tactic is very old, and professionals like Kellyanne Conway use it all the time - tar your opponent with the brush used on you, and people will see "equivalence."

Seriously, when I heard that yesterday, my first thought was: What an a$$hole that guy is! rolleyes
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#292392 - 09/10/16 07:30 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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It's an old trick. Pick out your own weaknesses and accuse your opponent of the same thing. Hard to accuse Hillary of cheating on business dealings, so go with mental and physical health.

The only problem is that it draws attention to the topic and you may do worse in comparison. Like the mental health thingie, the credibility, the foundations, etc.

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#292397 - 09/10/16 08:44 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
It's an old trick. Pick out your own weaknesses and accuse your opponent of the same thing. Hard to accuse Hillary of cheating on business dealings, so go with mental and physical health.

The only problem is that it draws attention to the topic and you may do worse in comparison. Like the mental health thingie, the credibility, the foundations, etc.

'People are saying' that Trump may have the beginnings of Alzheimer's just like his dad Fred died of. I'm not saying it, other people are... coffee
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#292399 - 09/10/16 10:46 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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#292401 - 09/10/16 10:55 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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I like that Pepe The Frog in there! There's a lot of Trump trolls on 4chan/b, etc. But then again there are African-American hate threads, gore threads, women-as-objects-suitable-for-rape threads, etc. Kind of the American id exposed.

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#292402 - 09/10/16 11:00 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pdx rick]
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I'm not saying it, other people are...


That's a right-wing talk show host trick. Other people can say he is a space alien: Doesn't make it so. I think Trump has always been an ahole. Nothing different now.

He is 70 and his dad was not diagnosed until I think 86. And his dad was an ahole HIS whole life before that. (ie. KKK member, racial discriminator, etc.)

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#292403 - 09/10/16 11:08 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I'm not saying it, other people are...


That's a right-wing talk show host trick.

I was imitating Don The Con. He does that all of the time. smile
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#292416 - 09/11/16 10:10 AM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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So I guess those who are proud to be deplorables are:

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The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it.


If the foo shytes...
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#292421 - 09/11/16 02:38 PM Re: Trump's Trumpet [Re: Ezekiel]
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I think Hillary was absolutely wrong in her "Deplorables" comment. The estimate was WAY too low...
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