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#295224 - 11/03/16 03:56 AM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#295226 - 11/03/16 05:28 AM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all

I just happen to be taking a Tier 5 specialty drug for MS they charge over $60,000 per year.


A so called "CRAB" drug?

The injectable CRAB drugs (Copaxone, Rebif, Avonex, and Betaseron)

Have you done well with them?
Some folks say that they don't do diddly.
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#295227 - 11/03/16 06:21 AM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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We live in an area *Los Angeles) that attracts new residents, often with more to spend than current residents, They need housing somewhere and they are desired by landlords.

The question isn't whether growth or not, but how to manage it so as to honor the place those of us who have lived here and helped create such attractive communities.


The process requires all players have a voice, but the developers and landlords should be limited as to how they play the game. If they dominate, the public will resist. If they bring growth that is healthy and prevail on the strength of their proposals, that makes for a peaceable life.

Of course, the problem is that money is our god and that takes the voice and needs of the residents away.
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#295228 - 11/03/16 08:01 AM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Tecfidera capsules twice a day. They don't know exactly why it works, but it seems to. My lymphocytes are about half normal: Not low enough to quit, but that is what it is supposed to do.

Two years since I was diagnosed and started taking it and my recent MRI looks exactly the same as my originals. Numb feet but that is nerve damage I got before I was diagnosed. Probably won't ever heal.

The drug was used for psoriasis for decades but Idec ran trials for MS patients and got a patent. Perfect drug: Cost them about 25 cents per capsule and they charge over $62,000 per year. But all those MS drugs you mentioned charge about the same.

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#295231 - 11/03/16 10:36 AM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
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Perfect drug: Cost them about 25 cents per capsule and they charge over $62,000 per year. But all those MS drugs you mentioned charge about the same.


That is obscene. mad
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#295244 - 11/03/16 03:11 PM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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My wife has never tried Tecfidera.
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#295256 - 11/03/16 06:00 PM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It's pretty good for me: The only side effect is sometimes I get facial flushing for 20 minutes about three hours after I take a dose. Otherwise, nothing else. No stomach problems, no flu-like symptoms, same recovery from colds as normals, and no wound healing issues.

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That is obscene


Fortunately insurance pays most of that, but it is a huge transfer of money from the insurance company to the drug company. Part of the reason insurance is so expensive and keeps going up.

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#295264 - 11/03/16 06:47 PM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Oh, but "private insurance is so efficient!" yanno...
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#295317 - 11/04/16 06:02 PM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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We're now able to "like" threads here on RR on Facebook.
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#295318 - 11/04/16 06:12 PM Re: Reader Rant Roundtable for November 2016 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


We're now able to "like" threads here on RR on Facebook.


I thought that had been around for a while.
I take it there's not much enthusiasm for the concept of liking or rating individual posts.
But I can see why, it eliminates the temptation to be lazy and not respond verbally.
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