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#292406 - 09/11/16 01:10 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Got the firebox topped out and the sides about 3/4 backfilled. After the backfill is in and set for a day I can install the pre-made throat. Then I can brick up over the throat and set the damper on top of the whole works.

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#292430 - 09/11/16 05:04 PM Re: Count Rumford [Re: logtroll]
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I'm not sayin' I know nuthin' about fireplaces but if I was you I'd put another half row of firebrick out so it's flush with the wall and install a nice hearthstone on top of that old salt tile or quarry tile that rises to the same level as the fireplace floor.
That's a pretty small fireplace and you're going to find that your fires will want to creep forward and drop hot stuff out the front.

What sort of veneer are planning for the front of it? Perhaps the veneer and hearth are already planned and you just haven't mentioned them?
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#292432 - 09/11/16 05:11 PM Re: Count Rumford [Re: Greger]
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The hearth will be level with the firebox floor - I'm thinking a slab of soapstone. The whole outside wall will get metal lath and lime plaster. And my blacksmith friend will make doors and a screen for the opening.
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#292477 - 09/12/16 01:53 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: logtroll]
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My hearthstone is a big slab of pink Tennessee ledgestone, the veneer is Wisconsin ruble which is mostly grey with some cranberry overtones. I told the wife when we built it she could do whatever she wanted but I'm not living in a pink house. She's long gone and I'm still living in a pink house.
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#292500 - 09/13/16 12:04 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: logtroll]
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I LOVE this discussion. But there is some saying about the number of chiefs and Indians that keeps nagging at me.
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#292502 - 09/13/16 12:14 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: logtroll]
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Loggy is the one with mortar on his hands. We are just the peanut gallery here.

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#292504 - 09/13/16 12:24 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: pondering_it_all]
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That's true - I can do whatever I want and nobody can stop me...

Here it is tonight, throat in place with the damper sitting on top for fit. Next will be to brick up the front and fill all around the throat with the cellular/vermiculite mortar.

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#292505 - 09/13/16 12:31 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: pondering_it_all]
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... mortar on his hands.


Sh-h-h-h-h. Don't get him started. I recently blurted my peanut gallery self into a chat about his ash hole. The details aren't pretty.

But the fireplace is.
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#292506 - 09/13/16 12:32 AM Re: Count Rumford [Re: Spag-hetti]
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In the spirit of our conversation, I guess I should have said, "Butt, the fireplace is," in a Yoda voice.
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#292529 - 09/13/16 04:05 PM Re: Count Rumford [Re: Spag-hetti]
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For many years my neighbor and best friend was a mason who specialized in Rumford fireplaces. I helped him build a bunch of them including my own. Over beers and many marijuana cigarettes I listened to him expound on the wonders of Count Rumford and his marvelous fireplace. Mostly I mixed mortar, toted and cut bricks, and broke stone into layable pieces with his ridiculous 18 pound stone maul.
But I learned a lot about fireplaces.
Eventually masonry fireplaces were mostly replaced with prefab units and natural stone replaced with manufactured stone molded nicely into face and corner pieces rather than the pile of boulders we usually started with. When the fireplace business floundered he became a general contractor(failed at that and is now a building inspector) and I preferred carpentry over the trowel trades. These days it's hard to find a mason that even knows how to build a fireplace, much less the Rumford firebox. Kudos go to Loggy for keeping the memory of Count Rumford alive a little longer.
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