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#298171 - 01/17/17 03:38 PM Re: OUR GOVERNMENT [Re: NW Ponderer]
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There was a local community meeting held here Sunday evening - an organizing effort to get our sh!t together. There have been lots of similar meetings over the past 20 years that I have lived here, which all proved out as windy BS, due mostly to a lack of perception of a real enough threat for people to activate around. This one felt different, and I actually recruited a number of people to participate in my particular focus on building a resilient economy based on local small businesses serving energy conservation and environmental restoration.

I think that FINALLY folks will start to invest their own real effort and money in such things and abandon the idea that we can get the government to take care of it.

Another sector amping up is political activism. Ours happens to be a solidly blue demographic, but the Democratic party here is lame and unprogressive. There is a strong cadre of local Progressives, but the Dem party leadership is entrenched and has been resistant to fresh ideas. Perhaps the Trumpocalyse will improve that scenario.
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#298172 - 01/17/17 04:30 PM Re: OUR GOVERNMENT [Re: jgw]
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Good luck in your efforts. I have to be a gadfly. It is so RED here, I could swear I was on Mars.
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#298180 - 01/17/17 10:51 PM Re: OUR GOVERNMENT [Re: jgw]
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Let me try one more time on the draft. The draft will not stop us getting into wars. It will, however, stop those wars from going on forever unless they can be truly justified. The war in Afghanistan, for instance, cannot be justified. Hell, we don't even know why we are there and what the goals are as they keep on changing. On reflection the war in Afghanistan is a little like a Trump speech.

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#298183 - 01/18/17 07:49 AM Re: OUR GOVERNMENT [Re: jgw]
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#298201 - 01/18/17 08:01 PM Re: OUR GOVERNMENT [Re: jgw]
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