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#298370 - 01/25/17 07:31 PM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: Kaine]
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Originally Posted By: Kaine
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer

PATHETIC!! And this is only one agency. I can see this spreading to all agencies. It's going to be a long 4 years.

As of last night, it was six agencies that got told not to publish or say anything until the WH has approved it.
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#298777 - 02/16/17 10:50 PM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Originally Posted By: Jim D (FreeThinker)
Well, we have seen one, although since it happened I guess it is no longer impossible (i.e. trump as prez.)

Are there others though?

Given the GOPs' current lack of respect for the Consitution (except or the second amendment and other parts when it suits them) and their current substantial control of many state legislatures, how long befort we start to see proposals for:

1. Making the Democratic party illegal as well as any other opposition party illegal.
. . .

Yup, far fetched and alarmist I know, but last year at this time so was the presidency of trump. (sorry but I refuse to capitalize his name.)


Republicans bar Hispanic lawmakers from meeting with ICE

Step 1, isolate the first group.

Quote:
ďIíve been here 25 years and Iíve never been told by the Speaker of the House that I canít attend a meeting Iíve requested,Ē Guitierrez said afterward, Politico reported.

According to the lawmakers, both members of the Hispanic Congressional Caucus were barred from entering a meeting between congressional leaders and the federal agency that has ramped up its immigration enforcement following the inauguration President Donald Trump.


Who's next ?!
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#298839 - 02/19/17 09:40 PM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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I understand that the Washington State Legislature will soon have a bill which will treat ANY protester as an economic terrorist.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news...ed-as-felonies/


Edited by jgw (02/19/17 09:48 PM)

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#298878 - 02/21/17 04:56 PM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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I was listening, yesterday, to njr (nut-job radio, the counter-programming to npr), and the host was going on at length about the threat of the "deep state" against the Trump administration. It was clear to me that he was misapplying the concept, but his tirade made an important point: when we are sanguine about the threats posed to our constitutional order our hubris is likely to bring those very threats to fruition.

I believe we are in the throes of "interesting times" - protests will (and must) continue; legislators and others with authoritarian instincts will attempt to throttle dissent, and firm their grip on power; and real threats to our security and principles will proliferate. We must remain vigilant and resolute. I am personally stirred to action as I have not been in my lifetime. It will be interesting to see how that manifests.
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#298902 - 02/21/17 10:29 PM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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Originally Posted By: Jim D (FreeThinker)

1. Making the Democratic party illegal as well as any other opposition party illegal.

Yup, far fetched and alarmist I know,


Iowa Republican proposes bill restricting left-leaning faculty at state colleges

Let's see now . . . Identifiy first, then restrict and finally make illegal.

Conservatives have such a weak position that they want disallow other points of view.
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#298907 - 02/22/17 12:22 AM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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"The Deep State" simply consists of career federal employees who were there long before Trump and plan on being there long after. Their performance evaluations depend on performing their tasks well, not political beliefs. They may have tasks that Trump doesn't like but are obligated to perform them to the best of their ability until a law or regulation says otherwise.

Some may even be Trump fans, but it does not matter. They do their jobs because that's the job.

They probably also have a bias toward actual solutions to actual problems, which makes them Liberal Scum I suppose, in Cloud Cuckoo Land.

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#298908 - 02/22/17 12:28 AM Re: Impossible Possibilities? [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Quote:
They probably also have a bias toward actual solutions to actual problems, which makes them Liberal Scum.....,

So true. So damn true.
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