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#298672 - 02/12/17 08:06 PM Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science
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Creationists don’t like The Clergy Letter Project, a strong, pro-evolution statement signed by over 13,000 Christian clergymen. Here’s the Wikipedia article on it: Clergy Letter Project. The Project is exceedingly troublesome for creationists because it flatly contradicts their claim that one can’t be a good Christian and also accept evolution.

When we say the Clergy Letter is a strong statement, we’re not exaggerating. Part of it says:

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We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator.


Among those who dislike the Clergy Letter Project is Ken Ham (ol’ Hambo), the ayatollah of Appalachia, famed not only for his creationist ministry, Answers in Genesis (AIG), but also for the infamous, mind-boggling Creation Museum, and for building an exact replica of Noah’s Ark. He is unquestionably the world’s holiest man who knows more about religion and science than everyone else.

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#298674 - 02/12/17 09:31 PM Re: Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science [Re: Golem]
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These folks are slaves to the literal words in the Bible, therefore etc etc. If God wrote the letter it would not persuade any of them.

Many conservatives suffer from the same inability to read the Constitution in any way except for the literal words, therefore etc etc. & etc

I am not sure it would be productive discussing either the Bible or the Constitution with either group
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#298684 - 02/13/17 01:35 AM Re: Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science [Re: Golem]
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The ironic thing is that according to the Gospels, Jesus almost NEVER told anybody in literal words what to do or not to do. Every lesson was a parable filled with metaphors. He was the LEAST literal teacher around.

Yet these numbskulls think the rest of the Bible can't use metaphors? Especially the Old Testament that was written 4000 years ago by Jews and is not even part of their religion?

The Old Testament or Torah IS the Holy Book of the Jews and almost none of them thinks it is all literally true. They know every story in there teaches a lesson but may be a metaphor.

I suspect biblical literalism is a personality defect much like being on the autism spectrum.

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#298702 - 02/13/17 09:23 PM Re: Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science [Re: Golem]
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Ken Ham is a kook, but a dangerous kook because there are so many people that believe him rather than real evidence. When he debated Bill Nye he was eviscerated but to hear him relate the debate it was the other way around.

When ever I see or hear him I want to wretch.
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#298794 - 02/17/17 04:06 PM Re: Ken Ham — Guardian of True Science [Re: Jim D (FreeThinker)]
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This guy is too stupid to breathe.

Creationist Ken Ham: Dinosaurs fought gladiator battles against humans and giants

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Creationist and Christian fundamentalist Ken Ham believes that in ancient times humans and dinosaurs co-existed with a race of giants and they all did battle with each other in gladiator-style combat.

Huffington Post’s Ed Mazza said Friday that Ham tweeted an image of a new diorama in Kentucky’s “Ark Encounter” theme park that features humans, giants and dinosaurs battling to the death in a Roman-style arena.
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