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#302898 - 08/29/17 02:52 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: rporter314]
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Trump attorney reached out to Kremlin to pursue Moscow Trump Tower project - CNN. Financed by the Russian Government. This gun is not just smoking... It's still loaded.
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#302900 - 08/29/17 04:56 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Yes but as long as Trump still has the support of the GOP-sturmers, you can keep dropping smoking guns all day long and Team Trump will just merrily file off the serial numbers and keep thumbing their noses.
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#302901 - 08/29/17 05:02 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Uh ohhhh, what a surprise...

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"Itís an episode indicating Manafort, who now faces criminal investigation in the Trump-Russia saga, made sure to try to spread the wealth to the Democratic Party before assisting in Donald Trumpís takeover of the Republican Party. And it underscores that a truly independent investigation into Russian election interference would likely implicate Democratic figures as well as Republicansósomething already emerging, as work that PR firms with ties to Hillary Clinton and other Democrats did for Vladimir Putinís allies become increasingly conspicuous."


Paul Manafort Teamed Up With Obamaís Lawyer to Help Putin Ally
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#302902 - 08/29/17 10:25 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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it was a former attorney and there was no evidence presented which linked anyone in WH to former attorney's work, in fact State refuted the report. the best i could figure is some attorneys are slugs and would do anything for a buck.

never seen it but isn't this a case of call Saul
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#302903 - 08/29/17 11:13 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Trump attorney reached out to Kremlin to pursue Moscow Trump Tower project - CNN. Financed by the Russian Government. This gun is not just smoking... It's still loaded.

Yup. The New York Times published Felix Sater's emails:



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Buddy our boy can become President of the USA and we can engineer it. I will get all of Putinís team to buy in on this...

I've written about Felix Sater many times here at Reader Rant.
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#302904 - 08/29/17 11:27 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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#302909 - 08/29/17 08:53 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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The truly weird thing is that 150 years ago Americans by the millions went to war to kill Confederates. Seventy five years ago Americans by the millions went to war to kill Nazis. Seventy years ago until just a few years ago we spent countless lives and enormous treasures challenging Russians and their allies around the world.

Now we have a President who loves Confederates, Nazis, and Russians, and even more startling Conservatives who supposedly honor the past are fine with that! Have Conservatives finally all just gone insane?

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#302912 - 08/30/17 03:29 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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The Confederacy IS the Conservative past. Is sure wasn't the progressives who owned other humans. Hmm

It isn't progressives who are shaking their tiny fists in fury shouting: Leave the Confederate moments and our history alone!
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#302931 - 08/31/17 01:32 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Mueller has taken a pardon-proof approach to squeezing Manafort, working with State authorities to ensure Trump can't provide a pardon to unpressure Manafort- Trump can only pardon federal charges. The same approach can work on Jared and Trump (Junior and senior) to the extent they have committed State crimes (like fraud).
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#302932 - 08/31/17 05:39 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Why would you think these people would allow themselves to be leveraged? Mr Trump "knows" he is above the law. Why wouldn't the rest of his coterie "know" the same thing?
Once Mr Trump starts throwing pardons out the window like a bunch of confetti, no one will talk.
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