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#303615 - 10/30/17 10:30 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pondering_it_all]
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#303616 - 10/30/17 11:50 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Quote:
We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.
- Papadopoulos email 05/2016


That folks, IS the collusion.

We need to march and protest until Donald J effing Trump is removed from Office. mad
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#303618 - 10/31/17 12:26 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Well, the Papadopoulos and Manafort are hitting the fan, and where they will spray, nobody knows.

We can be sure they will twist, slowly, in the wind until they name names, and so the tale will unfold. Much the same thing happened with John What's-His-Name when Nixon began to fall.

Everyone seems to have forgotten Wilbur Ross, Sec. of Commerce, and his money laundering with the Russian Oligarchs through the Bank of Cyprus.

I am reminded of Stalin's show trials in the 1930's, except in the USA the torture is less physical (at least, if you are a member of the upper classes), and as befits a "democratic" society, both Republicans and Democrats will have their "separate but equal" show trials --- the Repubs will do unto the Others as the Dems have done unto them --- I see it already forming in gossip about Fusion GPS and lawfirm Perkins-Coie doing the Democrat's dirty work with the Russians.

Get out your chemicalized popcorn and poisonous sugar-drinks, folks --- it should be very entertaining as these whiffs from the cesspool of Oligarch manipulation of American "democracy" turn into miasma when the cover of the cesspool is fully removed!
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#303619 - 10/31/17 03:13 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Let's see how low these indictments, and future indictments, can make Trump's number go. smile
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#303620 - 10/31/17 05:33 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Let's see how low these indictments, and future indictments, can make Trump's number go. smile


I would like to know what the magic number is that makes even the most hardcore supporters in Congress call a special meeting where they all get together and decide that "it's him or them, and it's going to be HIM".

What was the approval number that Nixon hit?
I think it was 24%
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#303621 - 10/31/17 11:14 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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#303628 - 10/31/17 10:21 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Learned some very interesting stuff about Paul Manafort: He spent years in Ukraine working for the pro-Putin fellow to make him President using EXACTLY the same campaign tactics. President fled the country just ahead of the mob. When people in Ukraine heard that Manafort was working for Trump, they could see it all happening again, to their dismay.

Manafort has been a buddy of Trump for a very long time. He took the position with Trump without pay. (He already has millions from the Ukraine stuff.) When Trump made the announcement that Manafort was out, he really wasn't. That was just PR.

Manafort's daughter said in a lot of emails to friends that he took the job so he wouldn't be an employee, but rather a Trump equal partner. Looks like he was much more than "an adviser". She also said that Trump and Manafort are perfect partners. Trump sees himself as an American version of a Russian oligarch. It's all about money and power for both of them.

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#303630 - 11/01/17 02:13 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Paul Manafort also brought a lot of Russian Oligarchs to Donald Trump. These Oligarchs, whose ill-gotten wealth came from the break-up of the Soviet Union, purchased condos ( some Oligarchs more than one - several units ) in various Trump residential towers for WAY OVER ASKING PRICE. The Oligarchs got to tie their ill-gotten monies in real estate and Trump pocketed the extra money paid for the units.

Money laundering is a big part of Mueller's investigation.
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#303634 - 11/01/17 12:15 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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The Manafort indictment has to have Trump pissing-his-pants nervous. It practically describes the Trump Organization.
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#303636 - 11/01/17 12:17 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I see Manafort has three passports and sometimes travels using fake names. Is Mueller exposing a global crime syndicate?
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