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#303637 - 11/01/17 12:34 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: logtroll]
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I see Manafort has three passports and sometimes travels using fake names. Is Mueller exposing a global crime syndicate?
Well, yes. I think this line sums it up beautifully:
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How do investigators decipher a story in which just about every participant was lying to just about every other participant just about all the time, usually for the sole purpose of exaggerating his own significance and power? And how do the rest of us connect it to reality?
The Papadopoulos Plea Deal and the Great Blowhard Convergence of the 2016 Election - the New Yorker. Have you ever seen as many "padded resumes" in any one place?
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#303652 - 11/02/17 04:34 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Sessions is going down. He lied to the Congressional committees and said that he was unaware of any connection between Russia and the Trump campaign, but Pappadapolous testified that Sessions was at the meeting where he brought up his Russia contact.

Partisan Senators and Reps in investigative hearings can go easy on you and accept your lies, but that is a trap: It's still perjury! And the Special Prosecutor will still indict you for it.

Trump lies so constantly that all his people have come to think they should lie as well. But if you lie to the FBI or Congress, that's Perjury. And here we have the ultimate fate of those who use "alternate facts".

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#303661 - 11/02/17 09:37 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Sessions is going down.

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#303663 - 11/02/17 11:29 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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#303664 - 11/02/17 11:31 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
The Manafort indictment has to have Trump pissing-his-pants nervous. It practically describes the Trump Organization.


I was under the impression that Paul Manafort and Trump are almost sandbox buddies, with a friendship that goes back more than a decade.
Am I wrong?
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#303670 - 11/03/17 03:20 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Yep, and the Trump campaign was a duplicate of the campaign Manafort ran in Ukraine to get the Russian-puppet elected. That Presidency ended with the guy fleeing the country just ahead of a lynch mob. Hopefully, this happens in our case too.

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#303707 - 11/04/17 01:08 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Carter Page met with Russian officials during a July 2016 trip to Moscow

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As the New York Times reports, Page admitted to meeting with Kremlin operatives during his lengthy House Intelligence Committee hearing yesterday.

As the Times points out, the admission spins a different narrative than that which Page presented mere hours before their report was published. On Friday, and again earlier this week, Page mentioned his Russia trip, but did not include his meetings with Kremlin officials, and portrayed the visit as “academic” in nature.

In his CNN interview on Friday, Page also decried the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrant the FBI obtained to monitor him due to suspicions that he is a Russian foreign agent.
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#303713 - 11/04/17 08:23 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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And he said he told Sessions about it, in direct conflict with Sessions sworn testimony before Congress. Is Sessions so senile he really does not remember? Or is he just a perjurer. Either way I don't think he can serve as AG.

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#303766 - 11/08/17 03:36 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


Carter Page met with Russian officials during a July 2016 trip to Moscow

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As the New York Times reports, Page admitted to meeting with Kremlin operatives during his lengthy House Intelligence Committee hearing yesterday.

As the Times points out, the admission spins a different narrative than that which Page presented mere hours before their report was published. On Friday, and again earlier this week, Page mentioned his Russia trip, but did not include his meetings with Kremlin officials, and portrayed the visit as “academic” in nature.

In his CNN interview on Friday, Page also decried the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrant the FBI obtained to monitor him due to suspicions that he is a Russian foreign agent.



And howzabout that Paul Manafort dude, bitching and moaning about having to be under house arrest?
What judge is crazy enough to let a confirmed (as in THREE PASSPORTS) flight risk like that bargain for his freedom?
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#303908 - 11/13/17 01:59 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Jeff asked me to drop this over here:

Putin actually answered, "Why, yes, I did, Donny, and now you are my slave for the rest of your term. Why? Because you cannot tell anyone the truth, since your administration would be gone by the time you got back to DC. All it takes is one nod from me and you are history. So let's talk about a unilateral reduction in America's nuclear arms and a complete removal of your military presence from anywhere that is not US territory. By the way, the borscht is terrific just after the beet harvest."

If Trump asked this question at all, he placed himself in a position of abject slavery to the Russian bear.

If you think about it for a minute you will see that Putin, a retired KGB colonel, would have had no choice except to say yes. There was never a greater opportunity for the Russians since 1917. Even if the true answer is no.
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