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#299751 - 03/19/17 09:24 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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...and speaking of liars, Red State outed Trump as leaking his own 2005 Tax Form.

The "Client Copy" stamp is our first clue.

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#299793 - 03/20/17 04:29 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


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Loc: Whittier, California
I just wrote to Homer Hickam:
H3Hickam@homerhickam.com

"Why should coal miners pay for PBS?"
This was an actual question asked by Trump's budget director Mick Mulvaney.

I don't know anything about you beyond your heroic story as a NASA scientist who made it out of a coal mining town, but I am prepared to respect whatever view you might have on this subject.

I don't know how much of a coal miner's pay goes toward support for public television but I'll hazard a guess that losing PBS might be pretty terrible for their kids. I'll also wager that it doesn't cut into Mick Mulvaney's paycheck all that much, but the returns are, in my humble opinion, pretty good.

Respectfully,
Jeffery J. Haas - Deep Freeze Films
Whittier, California

---Maybe a few other good folks might take a moment to ask Mr. Hickam the same question. He's probably the best example of what a good education can do for a kid living in a coal mining town, and the way I see it, PBS plays an important role in a child's education.

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#299797 - 03/20/17 05:42 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


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Loc: Whittier, California
Wally Hayman

The Canary in the White House

The 1950s were a time of maturity for America. All was not fine on the civil rights front but the rumblings for change had begun. It was a time of growth and prosperity; a time when no project seemed too bold or impossible; a time when we spent $128.9 billion dollars (about $1.2 trillion in 2017 dollars) to construct 42,795 miles of interstate highways.

The 1950's also marked the beginning of the space race which created inspiration for all of us and aspiration for many. It was a time when a coal miner's kid from West Virginia could dream of becoming a NASA rocket scientist, and on the way, inspire a half dozen local young friends to love science, too. As James Thurber satirically noted in 1961, "Since the days of Gagarin, even former religious people have suddenly given up their belief in God and now worship science."

Education was the only way out of the mines, even if it took you only as far the mining company's front office.

How things have changed, for both science and education, in general.

Now, along comes a White House budget director questioning funding public television with the declaration, "Can we really continue to ask a coal miner in West Virginia or a single mother in Detroit to pay for these programs? We can ask them to pay for defense, and we will, but we can ask them to continue to pay for the Corporation of Public Broadcasting?"

So it's bombs or Big Bird, America; you can't have both.

But some of us might wonder how that coal miner or single mom personally benefit from paying for Mr. Trump's weekend golfing and bacchanalia at Mar-a-Lago, or personally benefit from Paul Ryan's platinum, and free, lifetime family healthcare coverage.

You'd think a trust fund-benefitted President or once government-assisted Speaker of the House would appreciate and relate to the 3 million skilled and taxpaying Americans they could create if their border wall folly was redirected to scholarships and training programs. Seems a better way to stimulate the economy while raising our quality of life and sense of dignity - certainly better than manufacturing cluster bombs designed to be dropped on people in other countries seeking the same dreams for a better life.

No doubt many Americans whose taxes help support public broadcasting, the arts, education, libraries, national parks and other critical components of a healthy society have little personal use or time for these institutions - just as I never drive on 99.99% of America's publicly maintained roads and bridges but help pay for them, anyway.

But I get it. Someone worried about job security and the immediate needs of their family, may have as little use for educational television as some boorish real estate tycoon or sociopathic career politician. They may not realize that the entire annual budget for the National Endowment of Arts in 2016 ($148 million) was less than the cost of maintaining Melania and Barron Trump in Trump Tower for a year ($182.5 million). Should they move to Washington by the end of the summer, it will still have cost taxpayers $115 million - or $115 million more than next year's NEA budget since Trump is planning to eliminate the NEA. That's quite a tuition fee for little Barron. It may have been cheaper to relocate his entire school from New York to Washington.

Perhaps more chilling are Trump's proposed cuts to the NIH and what they will mean to the health and welfare of all Americans, rich and poor. Seems the man currently slashing through our government with his over-sized sickle is not our leader, but the the Grim Reaper.

I will posit this. Any society that aspires to nothing, will lose everything. Through an insidious devaluation of curiosity and intellectualism, lost empathy and abandoned governance, it will eventually fall victim to its self-engendered demise.

WBH
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#299799 - 03/20/17 06:25 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Quote:
I will posit this. Any society that aspires to nothing, will lose everything. Through an insidious devaluation of curiosity and intellectualism, lost empathy and abandoned governance, it will eventually fall victim to its self-engendered demise.

So this CONservative kunt that I know from the old Gretawire engaged me about the this topic and she correctly stated that the Constitution says the government is to pay for our defense and nowhere in the Constitution does it say the government should pay for the Arts.

These g-d m-f CONservatives can just drop dead for all care - and I really wish that they would. I fvcking hate them. mad

What a loss of PBS means to me:
  • No 'This Old House'
  • No 'Globetrekker'
  • No 'NOVA'
  • No 'Frontline'


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#299818 - 03/20/17 06:44 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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OK kids. Time for a laugh. We’ve earned it:

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#299820 - 03/20/17 07:41 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Ken Condon]
pdx rick Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ken Condon
OK kids. Time for a laugh. We’ve earned it:


Ok:


James Comey Pisses On Trump’s ‘Wire Tapp’ [sic] BS Like A Russian Pee Hooker

laugh
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#299951 - 03/24/17 11:04 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


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Registered: 08/03/04
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Loc: Whittier, California
President Trump had a chance to play with his trucks in front of the White House today!

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"Liberty is so important to "libertarians" that they think actually getting to exercise liberty should be a privilege that is overwhelmingly rationed in favor of the rich.
Recognizing this ought to tell us what we are dealing with."
---Piers Stephens

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#299952 - 03/24/17 11:38 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
TatumAH Offline
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Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 188
Loc: Upstate NY
Grump goes to Sesame Street

Where are those video expurts when you need one to embed something deeply and effectively??
Tat
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#299957 - Yesterday at 02:24 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: TatumAH]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


Pooh-Bah

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 12413
Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: TatumAH
Grump goes to Sesame Street

Where are those video expurts when you need one to embed something deeply and effectively??
Tat


Just go to FULL REPLY SCREEN, select the little blue TV screen icon
(fourth from the LEFT) and select YOUTUBE VIDEO.

Like this:

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"Liberty is so important to "libertarians" that they think actually getting to exercise liberty should be a privilege that is overwhelmingly rationed in favor of the rich.
Recognizing this ought to tell us what we are dealing with."
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#299959 - Yesterday at 02:29 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
TatumAH Offline
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Loc: Upstate NY
Thanks Jeffery,
As was said in my infuriating calculus text: As can be obviously seen by the casual observer, after a simple algebraic manipulation... After four pages of dot matrix printer paper I ended up proving that zero=Zero! These were the days when our State of the Art Calculators were made of sheet aluminum and diligently lubricated with chap-stick to avoid the dreaded crash during a physics exam.
[img]http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/132116347488?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true[/img]
[img]http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/132116347488?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true[/img]

Screw Ebay's non jpg images!! mad

The red leather sheaths were guaranteed to make any hippie girl "swoon", if suitably displayed, right, slightly off center, on your belt.
Way back then, though irrational, we all knew exactly where to find &#960;, it's right next to that line, fondly known as "hair &#960;". That also shows that even an old dog can be taught to find his ascii!
Tat Bow


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