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#300307 - 04/02/17 07:11 AM Cyanide Bombs
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Did you know the USDA is planting cyanide bombs at rural locations to kill coyotes and other predators? Read this:

Family Fights To Ban USDA Wildlife Trap That Killed Their Dog, Injured Son

from Snopes:
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According to USDA data, 22 domestic animals (livestock and pets) have been unintentionally killed by M-44 devices nationwide since 2013. The collateral damage also includes wild animals, of which more than 300 were unintentionally poisoned to death in 2016. On the flip side of the equation, 13,209 targeted predators (coyotes, foxes, and feral dogs) were intentionally eradicated using cyanide traps during the same 12-month period.


What moron approved these? Might as well just plant land mines.

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#300314 - 04/02/17 02:01 PM Re: Cyanide Bombs [Re: pondering_it_all]
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This is a lawsuit, and it will be successful.
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#300316 - 04/02/17 03:25 PM Re: Cyanide Bombs [Re: pondering_it_all]
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There is, literally, centuries of case law prohibiting traps like these, as well as international treaties. WTF? 3600 unintended Killings? That's more than 20% of the total.
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#300332 - 04/02/17 07:50 PM Re: Cyanide Bombs [Re: pondering_it_all]
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It is unbelievable that the government could place these on unfenced land where anybody could walk right up to it and set if off. The liability is immense not to mention the chance that you could kill innocent people. This had to be approved by sociopaths with no humanity or understanding of responsibility.

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#300333 - 04/02/17 07:53 PM Re: Cyanide Bombs [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Leghold traps are still legal on lots of public land, too. I don't know how the trappers have such a powerful lobby to keep the right to do such a barbaric and unsafe hobby.
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#300343 - 04/03/17 12:17 AM Re: Cyanide Bombs [Re: logtroll]
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Leghold traps


Very unlikely to kill a human being. Spraying random passers bye with cyanide is a very different story. The liability for killing children playing in the woods is immense. A jury would not just award damages, they would want to execute the responsible.

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