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#300191 - 03/30/17 05:04 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Irked]
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Here’s what we’ve learned from the Senate hearing on Russia so far -WaPo.

The Senate Intelligence Committee wants to avoid the partisanship we've seen in the House intelligence committee.

Russia has a history of meddling in other countries' affairs.

Some Russian interference techniques are easier to spot than others.

This isn’t just about the U.S. and Russia.
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#300201 - 03/30/17 09:35 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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This may be the final nail for Nunes: White House aides shared intelligence files with Nunes. At least three or four news outlets have now reported this, including this link from FOX.
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#300202 - 03/30/17 10:14 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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sooo .... going back to Spicer's question, why would the WH release the reports to Rep Nunes so Nunes could report them to the WH?

Is it the Keystone Kops or a highly sophiscated [sic] intelligence apparat?
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#300205 - 03/30/17 10:35 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: rporter314]
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Keystone Cops.
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#300206 - 03/30/17 10:40 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
sooo .... going back to Spicer's question, why would the WH release the reports to Rep Nunes so Nunes could report them to the WH?

Is it the Keystone Kops or a highly sophiscated [sic] intelligence apparat?


It seems to be a physical manifestation of the Gish Gallop
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#300207 - 03/30/17 10:44 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Schlack]
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Part 2 of the hearing a lot more technical detail on the how. Not as explosive as part 1.

If only Ma_Russian were here to provide some much needed discussion.
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#300208 - 03/30/17 10:45 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Schlack]
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#300212 - 03/31/17 12:05 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Schlack]
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so .... would one say Hannity's Litany of Lies is a Gish Gallop or is alliteration a little too much
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#300213 - 03/31/17 12:15 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Schlack]
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I have not read the article and will probably wait a while to check the developer solution.

Has Gen Flynn's attorney advised Flynn he may have committed crimes? Does he have something to offer? Maybe the story of Gulen's rendition was true? Are even more people implicated? Turkey is a non-Russian actor. Did Rep Nunes see some incidental collection of conversations with Turkish folks which implicate the WH?

I was going to write a political thriller but my fiction was too tame.
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#300223 - 03/31/17 12:43 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: rporter314]
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Rumour has it that the FBI has refused the offer!
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