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#298722 - 02/14/17 03:20 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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not so surprisingly Mike Flynn Jr has tweeted his father's resignation was the result of a disinformation campaign.

I am trying to figure out which conspiracy of people did such a horrible thing
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#298723 - 02/14/17 03:42 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: rporter314]
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It was... by Flynn Sr. Oh, and there was a little bit of traitoring in there, too, to give it body.
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#298727 - 02/14/17 04:44 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
more than a leaky sieve?


Same thing, except a colendar often has larger holes.
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#298734 - 02/14/17 07:40 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Especially for the legal beegles:

Enforcing the emoluments laws without going through Congress

The trick is to sue the Trump Organization, not the president...
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#298736 - 02/14/17 08:26 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Interesting story on NPR today: Trump has repeatedly claimed that Bowe Bergdahl (the soldier going to court martial for cooperating with the Taliban) is a traitor and should be shot or thrown out of an airplane. But Article 37 of the UCMJ says that any commanding officer can make pretrial comments that make a fair military trial impossible. So Bergdahl will probably walk.

Trumps own comments, repeated over and over on TV, have tainted any possible jury. Apparently the military take this very seriously and a number of cases have been dismissed when commanding officers have commented. For example, one CO said the he hates DUIs, so any one convicted of a DUI should get a dishonorable discharge. The result was a lot of dismissed DUI cases under his command.

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#298738 - 02/14/17 08:38 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Certainly no one will suggest that Trump is in command of anything?
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#298743 - 02/15/17 02:24 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Unfortunately EVERY unit in the armed forces is ultimately under Trump's command. That is precisely why Article 37 applies here, and in any case where Trump makes a prejudicial comment. Officers on the jury are used to following orders, so if someone up the chain of command says "convict" they will.

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#298744 - 02/15/17 04:14 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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I think you may be mistaken, at least that is how I read you post.

Article 37, UCMJ
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#298745 - 02/15/17 05:33 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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I don't think so. It is perfectly clear. The President is Commander-In-Chief of all armed forces so he sits at the highest position in the chain of command. Article 37 doesn't say the officer in question has to be the immediate commanding officer of the officers serving as jurors. It applies to every officer up the chain of command.

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#298752 - 02/15/17 06:53 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Unfortunately EVERY unit in the armed forces is ultimately under Trump's command. That is precisely why Article 37 applies here, and in any case where Trump makes a prejudicial comment. Officers on the jury are used to following orders, so if someone up the chain of command says "convict" they will.


Maybe I was not specific enough, The bolded portion above is exactly what Article 37 is meant to stop.
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