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#301180 - 05/10/17 10:35 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Schlack]
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Edited by Schlack (05/10/17 10:40 PM)
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#301182 - 05/11/17 01:31 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Maybe the most immediate need is for a good psychiatrist to start treating Trump. He could check out Trump neurologically and then prescribe some drugs to calm him down. Then it would be great if Trump had somebody to talk to in full confidence who won't make insane suggestions or enable impulsive acts.

I'm afraid most of Trump's sounding boards are crazy themselves. Like Steve "Let's Crash the Government" Bannon.

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#301183 - 05/11/17 09:02 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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After firing the FBI director who is investigating the President's ties to Russia, the President meets with two top Russian Officials the very next day, behind closed doors, with only the Russian Press allowed in.

You can't make this stuff up! crazy
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#301184 - 05/11/17 09:04 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Is my tax cut ready, or is the wall built yet? Asking for a friend. coffee
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#301185 - 05/11/17 06:02 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Maybe the most immediate need is for a good psychiatrist to start treating Trump. He could check out Trump neurologically and then prescribe some drugs to calm him down. Then it would be great if Trump had somebody to talk to in full confidence who won't make insane suggestions or enable impulsive acts.

I'm afraid most of Trump's sounding boards are crazy themselves. Like Steve "Let's Crash the Government" Bannon.


I dont think getting a shrink involved would be possible, as there are exclusions/exceptions to Confidentiality for Mental Health Providers. I have Italicized those that may be applicable with tRump. Numbers 2 and 7 are the most likely.

Some shrinks have avoided diagnosing him as a narcissistic character disorder, on the grounds that for something to be a disorder, it has to be something causing distress or dysfunction. This was not previously the case, but it clearly is now causing both distress and dysfunction.

Comey will be testifying in closed session next week, that implies that classified information can be revealed. This prospect will likely stress tRump out to new and ever GREATER or GREATEST STRESS EVER!

Stay tuned, and keep the nets and rubber room close at hand. Does the White House have a designated rubber room? Maybe they will rename one of the named rooms in his honor, or purrhaps as a warning to future delusional aspirants!

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Quote:
Exceptions to Confidentiality for Mental Health Providers
(in California)
The following is a list of exceptions to confidentiality for health care providers in California. It is
stated in a manner that is “user friendly” for a patient who is beginning treatment and is being
informed by the new treating therapist about confidentiality and its limits. Please note that laws are
subject to revision and that this list may not represent all the current exceptions to confidentiality.
Although psychologists must always honor your privacy by maintaining confidentiality about your
disclosures and securely preserving your records, there are exclusions to this rule. Psychologists can
(or must) break confidentiality, and take other appropriate actions, as warranted, if
:
1. You are a danger to yourself and threaten to harm yourself (e.g., suicidal).
2. You threaten to harm another specific person (e.g., assault, kill).
3. A member of your family informs your treating therapist that you seriously intend to harm
another.
4. You are seeking psychological services to enable someone to commit a crime, or to
avoid detection or apprehension yourself.
5. You are being evaluated by a court-appointed psychologist.
6. You are being evaluated to determine your sanity in a criminal proceeding.
7. You are involved in a proceeding where your mental competence is at issue.
8. You disclose something that your treating therapist is required to report (e.g., child
abuse, child sexual assault, and elder abuse). In these cases psychologists are
required
to telephone and file a written notification to the relevant public office, such
as Child Protective Services. There is no choice in the matter of reporting.
9. You are under 16 years old and are the victim of a crime.
10. You are under 18 years old and your treating therapist reasonably suspects that you
are a victim of child abuse.
11. You are over 65 and your treating therapist believes that you are the victim of physical
abuse. Also, psychologists
may
break confidentiality if you are over 65 and the victim of
emotional abuse (but they are not required to do so).
12. You die, and the information you had disclosed is known by your therapist or documented
in your record is important to an issue between parties making claims through you
(litigation).
13. You die, and the information being released by your psychologist is important in
a. Ascertaining your intent, or
b. Deciding an issue, concerning a deed of conveyance, will, or other writing of
yours affecting your interest in property (real estate claims).
14. You file a lawsuit against your psychologist for breach of duty (e.g., incompetence)
or your psychologist files a lawsuit against you.
15. You have filed a lawsuit against anyone and are claiming mental or emotional
damages as a part of the suit.
16. You have waived your rights to privilege or give consent in writing to limited
disclosure by your psychologist.


Exceptions to Confidentiality for Mental Health Providers
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#301186 - 05/11/17 07:09 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: TatumAH]
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Got damn I love the rumour mill. Reports on twitter of FBI raiding GOP related fundraising org, rumours of Rico case including pence priebus Ryan For funneling Russian money to campaigns. Trump under investigation for Russian money laundering via Netherlands.

All sounds too good to be true. Probably all bullshit and hyperbole but I'm having fun following it.
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#301188 - 05/11/17 07:30 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: Schlack
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while there may be an investigation into Russian mob connections ... best wait a bit to see some actual "facts"

your lead sounded like something from breitbart
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#301189 - 05/11/17 07:43 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Originally Posted By: Schlack
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while there may be an investigation into Russian mob connections ... best wait a bit to see some actual "facts"

your lead sounded like something from breitbart


Um yes, it did. That's why I highlighted it as such. I was just commenting that I was enjoying the rumour mill, speculation and hyperbole.

anyhoo

FBI searches Republican political consulting firm in Annapolis

Its a big stretch from here to the rumour mill conclusions!
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#301198 - 05/12/17 09:01 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Schlack]
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#301199 - 05/13/17 02:09 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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I tell you, his brain is deteriorating: He can't even stick with the same lie for a single day. Bush was MUCH more disciplined. They would get everybody on the same page and go with that lie forever. With Trump Fox News has no idea what to do, day to day!

I suspect Trump is doomed now because he has lost the loyalty of most of the FBI. I can read between the lines of FBI spokesmen to the press and Congress. It doesn't matter much who he puts in charge now. Those thousands of agents are not going to stop until he is impeached and maybe even indicted. They were very loyal to Comey, much more loyal than they were to Trump. (Presidents come and go.) Any loyalty to Trump is done now. He went after one of their own. Remember "They put one of ours in the hospital, we put one of theirs in the morgue."

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