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#301745 - 06/18/17 02:03 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Did you notice, by the way, that Sessions was only rude to women and Senators of color? It was blatant.
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#301750 - 06/18/17 04:20 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Mueller is coming for Trump - Slate.
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What you dont know can hurt you very badly, and there is a great deal that Republicans do not know about Donald Trump. From shady business dealings to questionable tax schemes to potential Russian collusion, the president is dogged by scandals whose depth and significance remain unclear. With few exceptions, Republicans are eager to protect Trump from serious inquiries, running interference where they can while pushing through their legislative agenda as quickly and secretively as possible. The GOP isnt quite sure what its helping Trump to cover upbut as long as he promises to sign its bills, the party will condone his outrageous misdeeds.
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#301766 - 06/19/17 03:38 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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The really stupid thing is that President Pence would sign all their bills too, without all the uproar over all the impeachable offenses they are ignoring. As far as I can see, keeping Trump has no positive benefit for them. Just lots of negatives, with the added possibility of lots of people going to jail for the cover-up.

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#301767 - 06/19/17 04:01 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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It's a catch 22 for Republicans. He is still supported by the same base that keeps them in office. They've gotta protect him or get primaried for being traitors to the party.
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#301768 - 06/19/17 04:03 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Watergate sent about 200 people to jail before it was over. Only a few were part of the original crime. Everybody else was involved in the cover-up.


And they've never forgotten it either.
The last forty years of Republican control, when they had it, has amounted to a thinly veiled continuous temper tantrum over the fact that the American people punished them and would not allow them to GET AWAY WITH IT.

They've since decided that they're going to teach us a lesson we'll never forget.
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#301777 - 06/19/17 03:15 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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According to Fox News:
White House Counselor Kellyanne Conway suggested Monday that the head of the Russia investigation should fully disclose the names of the attorneys hes hired after it was revealed several Democratic donors are part of the team scrutinizing the Trump administration at the highest levels.

I think its relevant information that the public should have, Conway told Fox & Friends.


I guess she's worried that they won't be able to find the alternate facts.
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#301779 - 06/19/17 03:49 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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I think FOX is anticipating a name change: They dropped the "fair and balanced" lietag-line in preparation for the adjustment. I think they are going to just rename it TTFN - "The Trump Friendly Network." Fox and Friends will become Donald's Friends; Hannity will will replace Mike Dubke, as Donald Trump's communications director (since he's already doing the job); Tucker Carlson's "Daily Caller" will re-register as a PAC - since it already is one, and he'll become the "anchor" for the "Trump Organization TV Hour" - oh wait, he already is...
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#301783 - 06/19/17 07:48 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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But seriously, Fox will indeed be undergoing a change but not the kind you think it might be.
On the contrary, Fox News Channel, while still a formidable player in cable news ratings, has met its match.
Sinclair Broadcast Group was already one of the largest local station owners in the country thanks to loose ownership regs at the FCC in recent years.
Now they are poised to become THE LARGEST.
And it's not just the numbers either...as they saying goes: Location, location, location.

SBG will now enjoy SEVENTY PERCENT LOCAL MARKET PENETRATION thanks to their recent purchase of most of the former Tribune Broadcasting collection of local affiliates, and they are all in key battleground states.
And SBG is several steps to the RIGHT of Fox News Channel, so much so that it is difficult to imagine FNC going even further to the right of SBG short of openly editorializing about bringing back slavery, advocating for beheading women and opening oven facilities for unfriendly Jews around the nation.

Rupert Murdoch probably won't be around in five years time, and he has alread ceded much of his creative and editorial control to his kids, who are more libertarian than anything else.
They HATED Roger Ailes and weren't too fond of Bill-O outside of the fact that he brought in money. Once that slowed, they couldn't wait to dump him.
They are now virtually rudderless as far as a monster ratings personality.

This means they are ill-prepared to deal with the SBG juggernaut which is just around the corner.



Therefore, I predict that in the coming months and years, Fox News Channel will slowly commence a series of very subtle shifts toward the center.
Yes, the CENTER, where there are more people under the age of 65, less people living on fixed incomes, less crotchety, angry, bitter old white males who don't buy much of anything anyway.

Fox is already being attacked by the alt-Right true believers as a "cuck" network anyway, so the true believers are looking for a new network to get behind.

Does SBG have its own cable news channel?
Not yet.
Guess what, when you already own a giant news PACKAGING operation and several hundred local affiliates, shooting your signal to a bird up there in the sky is cheap, easy and even more effective, seeing as how SBG is already doing it anyway to beam their content TO their affiliates now.

So it's just a matter of expanding and refining the lineup, inflating the sat time contract, making their frequency a dedicated one and doing some branding.
BLAMMO, welcome to SBG News Channel, the "NEW Fox News Channel".
It's GONNA happen, count on it.

And Fox News Channel is going to move in whatever direction keeps the money flowing in. The kids won't bat an eye about giving walker and scooter crowd the heave-ho if they can trade them for a few million younger, upwardly mobile and well heeled independents.

They are going to go where the money is.
SBG has already laid claim to whatever money exists in true believer territory.
You just don't know it yet.
But I do...I was in this business, I know how format changes work.

Lastly, I mourn what is sure to be the impending death of one of my own favorite local stations, at least as we know it today anyway.
KTLA Channel 5, a former Tribune station, was one of the outlets snapped up by Sinclair.

It won't be long before KTLA's centrist and liberal friendly look and feel will be transformed into Trump friendliness.
I'm already seeing ads for stuff that rankles any sane independent.



Those ads only started running AFTER SBG bought the station.
Next, they'll start "fine tuning" the news content frown
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#301830 - 06/22/17 06:10 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Our bloated orange President lied about the Comey 'tapes.' Quelle surprise. Hmm
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#301845 - 06/23/17 01:19 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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The very intelligent Trump just publicly bragged that his "tapes" Twitter thing was a ruse to try and influence Comey's testimony. That's a very shrewd move by someone who is under investigation for obstruction of justice, don't you think?

Trump on Fox and Friends
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