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#301846 - 06/23/17 02:31 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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here's the problem with that logT

he was not under investigation (as far as anyone has said) at the time .... he probably is now

it strikes me as odd Mr Trump would say something like that for this reason .... he either did or did not say what xDir Comey alleges.
if recordings exist:
if Mr Trump said it then the 2 narratives should be the same
if Mr Trump did not say it, then the recordings would expose Comey or the president as a liar
as an aside: the recordings do exist but corroborate Comey and have subsequently been expunged
otherwise they would have been produced to support Mr Trump's version

if recordings don't exist:
if Mr Trump said it, the threat recordings may exist would make the narratives the same
if Mr Trump did not say it, the threat would force Comey to tell the correct version

by threatening Comey with possibility of recordings, Mr Trump almost guarantees xDir Comey;s allegations are true

o the case for Comey changing his story is false. xDir Comey has maintained the exact same story
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#301847 - 06/23/17 03:29 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Like your logic.

In addition the whole episode is proof that President Donald (I am a ....) Trump is a liar and therefor can not be trusted. Now only if his base could see it Hmm
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#301848 - 06/23/17 05:26 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: rporter314]
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Trump is a practitioner of a rather more chaotic version of CONROT - a version where words can mean the opposite thang in such a flexible way that only Propaganda Barbie has the talent and skill to explain. 'Alternating facts' are a more sublime rendering of 'alternative facts'.
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#301850 - 06/23/17 07:32 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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there is nothing coherent or rational about anything a narcissist does or says. one should first think what does it mean in the context of his narcissism before making allusions to how politically savvy he is, or in general what a brilliant thinker he is. One can do this without breaking a sweat or becoming Goldberg.

Today Mr Trump signed some VA bill and there was a vet who gave a speech ... well .... not really a speech but a paean to the greatness of Mr Trump all before he triumphantly entered the room

feed the beast
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#301851 - 06/23/17 10:13 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: logtroll]
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try and influence Comey's testimony


Prosecutors call that Witness Tampering. People go to prison for that. Yet another charge gets added to the Impeachment list.

It's a wonder that Trump has never served time. He doesn't seem to be aware of what is criminal and what is not.

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#301853 - 06/23/17 10:37 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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By definition; if Trump does it, then it's not criminal.
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#301854 - 06/23/17 11:12 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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a narcissist would believe he is above the law and the rules do not apply ... Mr Trump has said it in a variety of ways .... he could shoot etc ... presidents can not commit etc ... and surrogates, like spkr Gingrich, say it as well

obviously if a president can be impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors" then a president can commit a crime
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#301855 - 06/23/17 11:13 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
First female usher in WH history no longer in post - CNN.

This is typical Trump administration. The three strikes: She's black (that alone could be two - female AND Black); was appointed by Obama; and previously worked for Ritz, not Trump (She probably objected to Trump wanting to gild everything in the White House). Moreover, the Trumps probably didn't realize it wasn't THAT Usher.

well, color me surprised.... First lady recruits Trump hotel employee to be White House chief usher
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#301856 - 06/23/17 11:33 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer

Mel's boy-toy?
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#301857 - 06/24/17 04:57 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: rporter314]
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Trump obviously thinks a President can act like the CEO of a privately held company. Even CEOs of public companies have to act very much more aware of the legal niceties. Presidents of the US have way more scrutiny from the press, from members of the opposition, even from members of their own Party.

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